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SC2Casts.com KOTH #4 Naniwa vs Ret

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tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 20:43:42
October 16 2010 14:16 GMT
#1
RESULTS!!!!

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Liquid`Ret won 4-2 over Naniwa.

Hail to the KING!!!


VODs are up NOW!!

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You Asked for Liquid`Ret !? You GOT HIM!

SC2Casts.com KING OF THE HILL #4 , organized by tosS.ita ,
SPONSORED by SC2Casts.com

On 20th of October 2010 MyM.Naniwa, one of the top Protoss in europe will fight for his crown vs the famous european zerg Liquid`Ret, this will be an epic match!

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[image loading] MyM.Naniwa
vs Liquid`Ret [image loading] [image loading]

Map Pool:
Metalopolis
Steppes of War
Blistering sands
Shakuras Plateau
Scrap Stations
Delta Quadrant
Xel'Naga Caverns
Jungle Basin

The Match will be bo7 and broadcasted LIVE on SC2Casts.com on Wednesday, Oct 20 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00), casted by SchickySC a
SC2Casts.com GIVEAWAY!!

[image loading] SC2Casts on iPhone or iPod touch!

In Apple's New and Noteworthy section.

Search for sc2casts on iTunes or just Starcraft. Should be the first app that comes up. Alternatively, you can just click here to check it out in iTunes.

If you want to comment on it - post in the Team Liquid Thread!

DURING THE STREAM OF THE EVENT WE WILL GIFT 5 PEOPLE WITH THIS APP!!**


** To take the guft u must have as US account on iTunes.


Poll: Who will take this match??

Ret (67)
 
61%

Naniwa (43)
 
39%

110 total votes

Your vote: Who will take this match??

(Vote): Naniwa
(Vote): Ret




Previous events:

KOTH #1
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Kiwikaki vs Dimaga
KOTH #2
+ Show Spoiler +
Kiwikaki vs Naniwa
KOTH #3
+ Show Spoiler +
Naniwa vs Morrow
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
October 16 2010 14:24 GMT
#2
Ret please
Would love to watch some PvZ action !!
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
October 16 2010 14:26 GMT
#3
Ret please ^^
Life is Good.
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 16 2010 14:39 GMT
#4
let'see who the community want to see fighthing Naniwa!!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Ch1ck3N
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany15 Posts
October 16 2010 14:39 GMT
#5
go ret
A Quote?
Ultralisk1
Profile Joined September 2010
31 Posts
October 16 2010 17:57 GMT
#6
I want to see a zerg 1.2, so RET!!
FaZiNaTe
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany290 Posts
October 16 2010 18:10 GMT
#7
ret gogo
twitch.com/fazinate
Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
October 16 2010 18:31 GMT
#8
high level PvZ all the way obviously! also ret is awesome and i'll be rooting for him
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 16 2010 19:27 GMT
#9
Wait so Idra isn't playing anymore now?
When I think of something else, something will go here
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 16 2010 19:32 GMT
#10
Idra is at MLG as you know, then He will leave for Korea and rest a couple of days due to jetlag then he will be busy as Blizzcon, so for this week will be very hard to have him, anyway I promise I will try to catch him soon and invite him in the next weeks
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 16 2010 19:48 GMT
#11
On October 17 2010 04:32 tosS.ita wrote:
Idra is at MLG as you know, then He will leave for Korea and rest a couple of days due to jetlag then he will be busy as Blizzcon, so for this week will be very hard to have him, anyway I promise I will try to catch him soon and invite him in the next weeks

ah makes sense didn't know he was going to blizzcon thanks!
When I think of something else, something will go here
JoeOrange
Profile Joined October 2008
United States6 Posts
October 16 2010 23:33 GMT
#12
Cool all of those three should be a good match
Ultralisk1
Profile Joined September 2010
31 Posts
October 17 2010 11:16 GMT
#13
Ret, Team Liquid in action!!
kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
October 17 2010 21:03 GMT
#14
white-ra most likely can't play in a week, he is in usa atm, so the vote goes for Ret
Filesupreme
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy6 Posts
October 17 2010 21:11 GMT
#15
imba zerg wanted!
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 17 2010 21:54 GMT
#16
SC2Casts.com GIVEAWAY!!

[image loading] SC2Casts on iPhone or iPod touch!

In Apple's New and Noteworthy section.

Search for sc2casts on iTunes or just Starcraft. Should be the first app that comes up. Alternatively, you can just click here to check it out in iTunes.

If you want to comment on it - post in the Team Liquid Thread!

DURING THE STREAM OF THE EVENT WE WILL GIFT 5 PEOPLE WITH THIS APP!!**


** To take the guft u must have as US account on iTunes.
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 22:05:47
October 17 2010 22:03 GMT
#17
I think a game vs QXC would be the most interesting as WhiteRa is quite weak atm and Ret surely needs some time (even though he makes a steady progress). A game s QXC on the other hand is also nice because it give us a good impression about the strength of the NA/EU servers as they both are like top 10 in their area.
ArchiTecT
Profile Joined April 2008
Netherlands63 Posts
October 18 2010 09:27 GMT
#18
I would love to see more SC2 by RET. Go Holland!
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 18 2010 09:31 GMT
#19
I think the voting is quite biased because ppl just love Ret for being Liquid'Ret - there's nothing wrong with it of course, but I also believe a game vs QXC might be more interesting because both are very aggressive players
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 10:17:28
October 18 2010 09:36 GMT
#20
infact motivated votes like yours are better than a single number
so ppl motivate your pick pls!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 15:32:09
October 18 2010 15:31 GMT
#21
Ret jus confirmed, do not miss it!

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[image loading] MyM.Naniwa
vs Liquid`Ret [image loading] [image loading]

Wednesday, Oct 20 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
October 18 2010 15:41 GMT
#22
Europe vs USA type of matches are more entertaining but this one should be really good, go practice some Ret <3
Ultralisk1
Profile Joined September 2010
31 Posts
October 18 2010 17:23 GMT
#23
gogogo Ret!!!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 18 2010 21:25 GMT
#24
Wow very cool!!! Cant wait, Naniwa is a beast!! He should be in more events.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 19 2010 00:21 GMT
#25
Well Naniwa is the better player by far and on a normal circumstance Ret would have no chance, but this patch is ridicolously zerg imbalanced so Ret could take some games.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
October 19 2010 06:39 GMT
#26
Oh sweet, rooting for ret, hope he takes it 4-0
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
October 19 2010 06:40 GMT
#27
On October 19 2010 09:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well Naniwa is the better player by far and on a normal circumstance Ret would have no chance, but this patch is ridicolously zerg imbalanced so Ret could take some games.


Yes, instead of all units outranged the roach by 3 they now outrange him by 2, this is clearly zerg imbalanced...

lol?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 07:06:10
October 19 2010 06:58 GMT
#28
On October 19 2010 15:40 magha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 09:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well Naniwa is the better player by far and on a normal circumstance Ret would have no chance, but this patch is ridicolously zerg imbalanced so Ret could take some games.


Yes, instead of all units outranged the roach by 3 they now outrange him by 2, this is clearly zerg imbalanced...

lol?


lol wow cloud every post I have seen of his so far is him bm'ing a player like kiwikaki and now balance. (that involveds these KOTH). Jesus O_O. No wonder I never really hear about this guy in tournaments or anything ^^.

Ret fighting! Can't wait to watch Ret's zvp
When I think of something else, something will go here
MatiNO
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia327 Posts
October 19 2010 07:05 GMT
#29
ya same here he just likes bming people. lols gogoret.
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 10:00:01
October 19 2010 09:59 GMT
#30
On October 19 2010 15:58 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 15:40 magha wrote:
On October 19 2010 09:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well Naniwa is the better player by far and on a normal circumstance Ret would have no chance, but this patch is ridicolously zerg imbalanced so Ret could take some games.


Yes, instead of all units outranged the roach by 3 they now outrange him by 2, this is clearly zerg imbalanced...

lol?


lol wow cloud every post I have seen of his so far is him bm'ing a player like kiwikaki and now balance. (that involveds these KOTH). Jesus O_O. No wonder I never really hear about this guy in tournaments or anything ^^.

Ret fighting! Can't wait to watch Ret's zvp



the nice thing is that actually Cloud refused to play in the EU vs NA, me and Catz are organizing, vs Kiwikaki...LOL
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
October 19 2010 10:08 GMT
#31
ret you beast, if you stop smoking weed you will rape naniwa straight up the ass
www.root-gaming.com
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 19 2010 10:24 GMT
#32
On October 19 2010 18:59 tosS.ita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 15:58 blade55555 wrote:
On October 19 2010 15:40 magha wrote:
On October 19 2010 09:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well Naniwa is the better player by far and on a normal circumstance Ret would have no chance, but this patch is ridicolously zerg imbalanced so Ret could take some games.


Yes, instead of all units outranged the roach by 3 they now outrange him by 2, this is clearly zerg imbalanced...

lol?


lol wow cloud every post I have seen of his so far is him bm'ing a player like kiwikaki and now balance. (that involveds these KOTH). Jesus O_O. No wonder I never really hear about this guy in tournaments or anything ^^.

Ret fighting! Can't wait to watch Ret's zvp



the nice thing is that actually Cloud refused to play in the EU vs NA, me and Catz are organizing, vs Kiwikaki...LOL

I don't play in your stuff because you are the most unprofessional organizator I've ever seen. The sccast tournament was enough for me to understand you are terrible at this and I have no will to take part in anything you organize. I told you this already though, nice you bring it up on tl aswell.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 19 2010 10:27 GMT
#33
nice crap.. ahah
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
MatiNO
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia327 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 11:08:01
October 19 2010 11:07 GMT
#34
gogoret
Ultralisk1
Profile Joined September 2010
31 Posts
October 19 2010 23:59 GMT
#35
I hope ret will win so we can see some good TvZ in the future!!
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
October 20 2010 00:02 GMT
#36
Realistically, let's not kid ourselves, naniwa 4-0, though I love ret.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 01:50:56
October 20 2010 01:50 GMT
#37
On October 19 2010 19:24 iG.ClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 18:59 tosS.ita wrote:
On October 19 2010 15:58 blade55555 wrote:
On October 19 2010 15:40 magha wrote:
On October 19 2010 09:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well Naniwa is the better player by far and on a normal circumstance Ret would have no chance, but this patch is ridicolously zerg imbalanced so Ret could take some games.


Yes, instead of all units outranged the roach by 3 they now outrange him by 2, this is clearly zerg imbalanced...

lol?


lol wow cloud every post I have seen of his so far is him bm'ing a player like kiwikaki and now balance. (that involveds these KOTH). Jesus O_O. No wonder I never really hear about this guy in tournaments or anything ^^.

Ret fighting! Can't wait to watch Ret's zvp



the nice thing is that actually Cloud refused to play in the EU vs NA, me and Catz are organizing, vs Kiwikaki...LOL

I don't play in your stuff because you are the most unprofessional organizator I've ever seen. The sccast tournament was enough for me to understand you are terrible at this and I have no will to take part in anything you organize. I told you this already though, nice you bring it up on tl aswell.


Or your scared to get stomped by Kiwi rofl. I wouldn't talk shit if you can't back it up tbh.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Cammalleri
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada190 Posts
October 20 2010 02:01 GMT
#38
On October 20 2010 10:50 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 19:24 iG.ClouD wrote:
On October 19 2010 18:59 tosS.ita wrote:
On October 19 2010 15:58 blade55555 wrote:
On October 19 2010 15:40 magha wrote:
On October 19 2010 09:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well Naniwa is the better player by far and on a normal circumstance Ret would have no chance, but this patch is ridicolously zerg imbalanced so Ret could take some games.


Yes, instead of all units outranged the roach by 3 they now outrange him by 2, this is clearly zerg imbalanced...

lol?


lol wow cloud every post I have seen of his so far is him bm'ing a player like kiwikaki and now balance. (that involveds these KOTH). Jesus O_O. No wonder I never really hear about this guy in tournaments or anything ^^.

Ret fighting! Can't wait to watch Ret's zvp



the nice thing is that actually Cloud refused to play in the EU vs NA, me and Catz are organizing, vs Kiwikaki...LOL

I don't play in your stuff because you are the most unprofessional organizator I've ever seen. The sccast tournament was enough for me to understand you are terrible at this and I have no will to take part in anything you organize. I told you this already though, nice you bring it up on tl aswell.


Or your scared to get stomped by Kiwi rofl. I wouldn't talk shit if you can't back it up tbh.

This, Cloud doesn't deserve to play KiWi anyways, it's not like he could take a game off him, so he had the great idea of dodging.
MatiNO
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia327 Posts
October 20 2010 09:35 GMT
#39
Yeah and there is a replay where he plays kiwikaki and is like ' good , free points' but ends up rage qutting vs him LOL gg.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 20 2010 10:11 GMT
#40
Before this patch Nani 4-0, now I think a bit closer 4-2 to Nani!!!
Live and Let Die!
naniwa1
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden36 Posts
October 20 2010 13:12 GMT
#41
i dont expect to win any zerg in this patch, but never the less i hope i can make some good games !! gl ret )
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
October 20 2010 16:03 GMT
#42
Nani, I will be stealing post patch 1.2 PvZ builds from you so give us some good ones. I'm totally clueless after roach change.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
Gnarg
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands165 Posts
October 20 2010 17:49 GMT
#43
Ret's gonna clean up!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 20 2010 18:57 GMT
#44
On October 20 2010 22:12 naniwa wrote:
i dont expect to win any zerg in this patch, but never the less i hope i can make some good games !! gl ret )


Ah well you may want to watch replays of other high level protoss players so you can learn to play pvz before this starts as its not balance to why you will lose if you do .
When I think of something else, something will go here
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 19:25:11
October 20 2010 19:24 GMT
#45
15 mis delay , for some technichal difficulties!!
sorry!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 19:26:56
October 20 2010 19:26 GMT
#46
This will be fun, go Ret!

Thanks to SC2Casts and tosS.ita for these awesome king of the hills.
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 20 2010 19:35 GMT
#47
stream link

http://sc2casts.com/koth


start in 10 minutes!!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
MoRs
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany35 Posts
October 20 2010 19:57 GMT
#48
the stream is so laggy
Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
October 20 2010 20:10 GMT
#49
On October 21 2010 04:57 MoRs wrote:
the stream is so laggy

So true T_T I want to watch this so bad...
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
October 20 2010 20:11 GMT
#50
Jeez, when did Nani get so good? Loved the first game
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
October 20 2010 20:11 GMT
#51
Wasn't laggy for me at all.
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
October 20 2010 20:13 GMT
#52
Looks like while increased Roach range is good, it's not THAT good, heh.
What this
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 20 2010 20:27 GMT
#53
Wow, Ret is incredibly good already. I am so impressed by his play so far, Ret Fighting!!!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
butter
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States785 Posts
October 20 2010 20:29 GMT
#54
Naniwa playing macro games with ret. It's delicious, like popcorn.
TL should have a minigame where you have to destroy some rocks before you can make a new post – DentalFloss
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 20:31:06
October 20 2010 20:30 GMT
#55
1-1 so far and what a shock Nani wins a macro game then loses one and blames balance lolol.

Ret fighting!
When I think of something else, something will go here
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 20 2010 20:39 GMT
#56
this game rock!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 20:54:51
October 20 2010 20:52 GMT
#57
Ret is scary :S

I've been impressed with Nani's micro, but Ret just looks like he's on another level right now.

edit: I think Ret is over expanding, and not teching enough. But good god, his creep spread and overlord placement is equal to, or better than IdrA's.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 20 2010 20:56 GMT
#58
Nani so bm, I have honestly been unimpressed with his performance so far. Idk how he won the first 2 series from what I've seen of his play :/
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 20:57:14
October 20 2010 20:56 GMT
#59
Oh for fuck sake, how did I forget this? Glad I only missed two games at least. Obv' didn't see all of last game, but looked like Ret was in control, ahh. Lots of bases, overlord spread, creep spread.. A lot of Z should take some notes from him.
throttled
Profile Joined August 2010
United States382 Posts
October 20 2010 20:57 GMT
#60
On October 21 2010 05:52 emperorchampion wrote:
Ret is scary :S

I've been impressed with Nani's micro, but Ret just looks like he's on another level right now.

edit: I think Ret is over expanding, and not teching enough. But good god, his creep spread and overlord placement is equal to, or better than IdrA's.


Lol, you'll eat those words tonight. You see Idra vs Boxer on XNC?

Regardless, Ret is sick. Nani's complaining is lame.
"Look to the river rushing. Unparalleled in its power. It carves away at the land, eroding the banks, consuming the sands and washes away to her majesty."
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 20 2010 20:58 GMT
#61
Zvp Lessions guys ^^
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
MoRs
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany35 Posts
October 20 2010 20:59 GMT
#62
does anybody know where i can get the replay?
Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 20 2010 20:59 GMT
#63
On October 21 2010 05:56 emperorchampion wrote:
Nani so bm, I have honestly been unimpressed with his performance so far. Idk how he won the first 2 series from what I've seen of his play :/


He really is. In both games he has lost he has complained about balance in the chat. First game he won in macro game didn't see the whole game really but was a long one.

Game 2 another macro game Ret won then Nani blamed balance. This guy is pathetic I really hope Ret smashes him the next 2 games :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:01:16
October 20 2010 21:00 GMT
#64
On October 21 2010 05:57 throttled wrote:

Lol, you'll eat those words tonight. You see Idra vs Boxer on XNC?


Idra v Boxer on XNC??

Cute bm going on, really hoping Nani will lose. He reminds me a bit of the one free month I used on Xbox Live, eh.

Edit: When did ret hatch/pool? Missed it.
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
October 20 2010 21:02 GMT
#65
its lagging heavily on me Shame, looks like ret play is really solid....
When in doubt, just drone up.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 20 2010 21:02 GMT
#66
Wow Ret defended that very well very impressive :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 20 2010 21:03 GMT
#67
On October 21 2010 05:57 throttled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 05:52 emperorchampion wrote:
Ret is scary :S

I've been impressed with Nani's micro, but Ret just looks like he's on another level right now.

edit: I think Ret is over expanding, and not teching enough. But good god, his creep spread and overlord placement is equal to, or better than IdrA's.


Lol, you'll eat those words tonight. You see Idra vs Boxer on XNC?

Regardless, Ret is sick. Nani's complaining is lame.


I wouldn't mind him proving me wrong :D

I agree with Nani's whining, he's playing like absolute garbage anyways- just throwing all the games, and being bm as well. Way to gain an anti-fan Nani!
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DueleR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States207 Posts
October 20 2010 21:13 GMT
#68
another ragequit from nani: "roach is so bull----"

i'm usually a nani fan but a bit disappointed in his play so far this series. would like to see some more creativity (which is why i became a fan of his in the first place)
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:16:13
October 20 2010 21:14 GMT
#69
lololol Nani's on a tilt ahaha

A comment on the casting, obviously you're sick so I can cut a lot of slack- but I'm just gonna say that your vocal analysis is pretty good, however in a few cases your observing skills could use some work. You tend to focus on the bases a lot, and not on what is happening in game.

edit:
On October 21 2010 05:59 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 05:56 emperorchampion wrote:
Nani so bm, I have honestly been unimpressed with his performance so far. Idk how he won the first 2 series from what I've seen of his play :/


He really is. In both games he has lost he has complained about balance in the chat. First game he won in macro game didn't see the whole game really but was a long one.

Game 2 another macro game Ret won then Nani blamed balance. This guy is pathetic I really hope Ret smashes him the next 2 games :D


I'm just gonna say that Nani didn't even beat him in macro in game 1, Ret just over expanded and didn't tech enough. It was more of a mistake from Ret than good play from Nani imo.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 20 2010 21:14 GMT
#70
Yup hope to see the same "roach is bullshit" because he doesn't know what to do rofl.
When I think of something else, something will go here
throttled
Profile Joined August 2010
United States382 Posts
October 20 2010 21:15 GMT
#71
Lol nani,

YOU MAD?

Seriously the range had almost nothing to do with why roaches worked. Idk if he noticed but Ret also had about 20 FUCKING CORRUPTORS that melted the colossus.
"Look to the river rushing. Unparalleled in its power. It carves away at the land, eroding the banks, consuming the sands and washes away to her majesty."
Gnarg
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands165 Posts
October 20 2010 21:21 GMT
#72
On October 21 2010 06:14 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm just gonna say that Nani didn't even beat him in macro in game 1, Ret just over expanded and didn't tech enough. It was more of a mistake from Ret than good play from Nani imo.


Yeah Ret definitly outmacro'd him hard. Nani just camped in his base though till he had insane tech.
SwampZero
Profile Joined September 2010
Greece350 Posts
October 20 2010 21:21 GMT
#73
whats the current score?

I'm looking at a Shakuras game
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 20 2010 21:22 GMT
#74
Partial Score

+ Show Spoiler +
3-2 for Ret
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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:29:13
October 20 2010 21:23 GMT
#75
On October 21 2010 06:21 SwampZero wrote:
whats the current score?

I'm looking at a Shakuras game

Nm beat me to it.

Does Nani hate chronoboost or something? Just on tilt? Really doubt he will have a chance this game. Just letting Ret do his thing, not the wisest move.
Not to mention the two starports he barely used, uh.

Suppose he's using them now. Phoenix are amazing vs roach / hydra armies! I really think he'd be better off with sentries/more gateway units overall. GG
SwampZero
Profile Joined September 2010
Greece350 Posts
October 20 2010 21:26 GMT
#76
CB? what do you mean by that, my mind is stuck
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 20 2010 21:27 GMT
#77
On October 21 2010 06:26 SwampZero wrote:
CB? what do you mean by that, my mind is stuck


Chrono boost.

Nani isn't even using forcefield that much this game so roach/hydra is doing that much more damage lol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:30:48
October 20 2010 21:29 GMT
#78
wait for it....

edit: hooray for the bm!

GG Ret, I'm not sure if you're absolutely amazing, or if Nani just played like garb.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#79
Meh decent BM expected something funnier.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
October 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#80
I missed something. Zerg are OP against Protoss now?
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
bricks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States45 Posts
October 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#81
nani so bm :/

+ Show Spoiler +
grats to ret!
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#82
lol this is like the Protoss version of Idra, I love it.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
froGGifyre
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States213 Posts
October 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#83
wow.... lol at naniwa. u mad bro?
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#84
LOLOL! God Nani's BM because he played so bad is funny as hell rofl. Rages after every loss. Hopefully Nani actually watches some top protoss players and realizes he needs to use forcefield more lolol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
jjcoola998
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
October 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#85
Wow, Ret is looking amazing, and he's sick, very impressed.

Nani is such a gentlemen too...
IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
October 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#86
Nothing new that Naniwa is bm^^
throttled
Profile Joined August 2010
United States382 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:34:17
October 20 2010 21:31 GMT
#87
+ Show Spoiler +
Nani: "Congrats on winning by being a better player than me."*


*fixed.
"Look to the river rushing. Unparalleled in its power. It carves away at the land, eroding the banks, consuming the sands and washes away to her majesty."
mcJ
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark322 Posts
October 20 2010 21:31 GMT
#88
nAni dishing out the bm ^________^

Grats ret, now keep rolling and take over the scene again
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 20 2010 21:31 GMT
#89
On October 21 2010 06:31 throttled wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Nani: "Congrats on winning by being a better player than me."*


*fixed.


spoilers pls!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:35:15
October 20 2010 21:32 GMT
#90
Yeah Nani as whiny as always, nothing new here.
Hard to take this guys serious.

This boy should just grow up.
Off-season = best season
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
October 20 2010 21:32 GMT
#91
1500 minerals and gas for naniwa.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
throttled
Profile Joined August 2010
United States382 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:34:51
October 20 2010 21:33 GMT
#92
On October 21 2010 06:30 Senx wrote:
lol this is like the Protoss version of Idra, I love it.


Lol, except Idra nerdraged because of legitimate problems with the game pre 1.1.2, and Nani babyrages because he plays badly.



On October 21 2010 06:31 tosS.ita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 06:31 throttled wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Nani: "Congrats on winning by being a better player than me."*


*fixed.


spoilers pls!


Oops! Sorry.
"Look to the river rushing. Unparalleled in its power. It carves away at the land, eroding the banks, consuming the sands and washes away to her majesty."
YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
October 20 2010 21:34 GMT
#93
Great macro by Liquid'Ret !

I'm very good at making carriers.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
October 20 2010 21:35 GMT
#94
Will the vods/replays come up? couldn't see the first few games
Congrats ret, well played, cant wait till ur in korea :D
no dude, the question
MoRs
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany35 Posts
October 20 2010 21:35 GMT
#95
need reps!
Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
Archvil3
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:35:51
October 20 2010 21:35 GMT
#96
[Naniwa] congratulations on winning with the "worst" race!

dear nani,

you played like shit and your attempt at excusing yourself with racial imbalance was pathetic.

when you let a zerg grab 5 bases without attacking him even once you are in a world of hurt.

dont act surprised.

dont blame it on racial imbalances.

you lost to a better player.

good game Ret, getting closer to being ready for Korea
Let thy speech be better than silence, or be silent.
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 20 2010 21:36 GMT
#97
I've to admit, Ret is freaking beast!!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Gophar
Profile Joined July 2010
France49 Posts
October 20 2010 21:39 GMT
#98
How can u talk about imba or anything when you are being completely outmacro...

Btw ret, you are awesome, such a beast...

Make more tournaments man ! Go4sc2, craftcup, anything !
LynxKerr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada173 Posts
October 20 2010 21:39 GMT
#99
Ya Nani got facesmashed for the most part there.
Get busy livin', or get busy dyin'
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:55:49
October 20 2010 21:43 GMT
#100
Heh, too bad IdrA didn't get to play Nani, I wonder what will happen when you mix the two kings of BM together.

Edit: Though Naniwa's probably more of an Earl or Duke of bm. Haven't perfected it quite as much as IdrA has so far heh.
What this
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
October 20 2010 21:46 GMT
#101
On October 21 2010 06:43 Alphaes wrote:
Heh, too bad IdrA didn't get to play Nani, I wonder what will happen when you mix the two kings of BM together.

IdrA wins by a landslide and Nani gets angry, probably wouldn't be much different from today.
KNICK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Germany248 Posts
October 20 2010 21:47 GMT
#102
I am honestly worried about ClouD's health sometimes. I can only imagine him beating Naniwa in a practice game and then having to dodge knives, plates, random pieces of furniture and imbalance accusations being thrown at him all at once.

Ret is looking as scary as he did back in BroodWar, I love it. Hope he does well during his second stay in Korea.
I close one eye, and I see half. I close both, and I see everything.
GenocideRun
Profile Joined July 2010
United States262 Posts
October 20 2010 21:48 GMT
#103
I fucking love you Naniwa!
Genocide.run, Dota2 player and sc2 fan!
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 20 2010 21:48 GMT
#104
On October 21 2010 06:47 KNICK wrote:
I am honestly worried about ClouD's health sometimes.

nahh BM is really Balanced in that house.
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Ch1ck3N
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany15 Posts
October 20 2010 21:56 GMT
#105
great games ret
A Quote?
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
October 20 2010 22:03 GMT
#106
BM means? :D
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 20 2010 22:04 GMT
#107
bad manners
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MoRs
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany35 Posts
October 20 2010 22:20 GMT
#108
even in eps ger. naniwa is comlaining about useless things :D

when the vods will be up?
Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
Schickysc
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada380 Posts
October 20 2010 22:47 GMT
#109
On October 21 2010 07:20 MoRs wrote:
even in eps ger. naniwa is comlaining about useless things :D

when the vods will be up?


Within 24 hours as usual.

will be at www.youtube.com/schickysc
Shoot for the Moon, Find a Star
Burn2Memory
Profile Joined August 2010
United States574 Posts
October 21 2010 02:38 GMT
#110
ROFL @ NANI.

I could understand complaining about the patch..... if you were terran. Protoss can still beat zerg easil/
escobari
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland192 Posts
October 21 2010 07:24 GMT
#111
My hero. Zerg bs in this thread is overwhelming, living in illiusion that before patch zvp was some how imba. UP toss needs crybaby champions like idra and artosis, to get blizzards attention. What I've seen: nani is the solidest toss out there, and way better than race winner ret.

User was temp banned for this post.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
October 21 2010 07:32 GMT
#112
On October 21 2010 16:24 escobari wrote:
My hero. Zerg bs in this thread is overwhelming, living in illiusion that before patch zvp was some how imba. UP toss needs crybaby champions like idra and artosis, to get blizzards attention. What I've seen: nani is the solidest toss out there, and way better than race winner ret.


If you want to troll atleast try and make it more fun and less obvious.

MoRs
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany35 Posts
October 21 2010 10:31 GMT
#113
im so excited :D:D

want to watch the vods <3
Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 21 2010 11:47 GMT
#114
On October 21 2010 19:31 MoRs wrote:
im so excited :D:D

want to watch the vods <3



vods are in upload phase!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 12:05:22
October 21 2010 12:05 GMT
#115
MoRs
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany35 Posts
October 21 2010 12:14 GMT
#116
On October 21 2010 20:47 tosS.ita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 19:31 MoRs wrote:
im so excited :D:D

want to watch the vods <3



vods are in upload phase!


NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!! ^^

imo ret has a big natural skill. he does not need very much training etc.
Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
October 21 2010 12:22 GMT
#117
Why is there so much hate for Naniwa? He's the nicest, most handsome and by far most mannered player in Starcraft II.
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MoRs
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany35 Posts
October 21 2010 12:32 GMT
#118
On October 21 2010 21:22 frequency wrote:
Why is there so much hate for Naniwa? He's the nicest, most handsome and by far most mannered player in Starcraft II.


of course . . . . .
Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
October 21 2010 15:05 GMT
#119
Lolz. Now can people please stop calling this guy one of Europe's "top protoss". He wouldn't get past C+ on ICCUP for crying out loud.
Hello=)
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
October 21 2010 15:13 GMT
#120
On October 21 2010 21:14 MoRs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 20:47 tosS.ita wrote:
On October 21 2010 19:31 MoRs wrote:
im so excited :D:D

want to watch the vods <3



vods are in upload phase!


NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!! ^^

imo ret has a big natural skill. he does not need very much training etc.


ret was pretty much the best non-Korean SC player. I think the single thing holding him back right now is the lack of practice. He has only been playing SC2 for a few weeks now I think?
I think/hope he'll become one of the best players in the world.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10007 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 15:18:03
October 21 2010 15:16 GMT
#121
yos da boss
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
some_pro
Profile Joined October 2010
120 Posts
October 21 2010 17:36 GMT
#122
I can't find the VOD
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 21 2010 17:55 GMT
#123
vods will be release at 21:00 cet today
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
October 21 2010 17:56 GMT
#124
Naniwa is a beast.. he was playing with one hand tied behind his back ofcourse <3
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 20:42:48
October 21 2010 19:06 GMT
#125
VODs are up NOW!!

Liquid`Ret vs MyM.Naniwa Vods

Pls Subsribe we need your support!! THX!!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Quallen
Profile Joined August 2010
United States42 Posts
October 21 2010 19:59 GMT
#126
Wow, sc2casts.com is exactly the kind of aggregate VOD site i've been wishing I knew about =D

watching the Naniwa vs Ret games now
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 21 2010 20:04 GMT
#127
ret #1!!
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FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
October 21 2010 22:11 GMT
#128
On October 22 2010 04:59 Quallen wrote:
Wow, sc2casts.com is exactly the kind of aggregate VOD site i've been wishing I knew about =D


Me too, how cool is that!

Also, a very nice KOTH series and enjoyable casting. On ret vs Naniwa:

+ Show Spoiler +
It's good to see ret playing again, we haven't seen much of him in SC2 yet (the most memorable appearance perhaps being his "I forgot to make some units" stunt back in the Beta -.-), and he will be another interesting player to follow. Unfortunately Nani was a bit of a letdown this time, his play seemed a little uninspired and the whining didn't add much to the overall impression he made. Therefore it wasn't the big challenge for ret it could have been. But whatever, can't win em all and everyone has a bad day every once in a while.
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
October 21 2010 22:20 GMT
#129
only got to watch the first game live, but ret had some MAD creep spread
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
October 22 2010 06:00 GMT
#130
Love the nerd rage :D

I recall this interview with naniwa made not to long ago:
Protoss vs. Zerg
I think this is the best matchup I like to play. Maybe in slight advantage of Protoss because of the maps, but I really feel that the better player wins there.

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/features/2521
lasto
Profile Joined September 2010
141 Posts
October 22 2010 06:09 GMT
#131
Great matches, most of the games naniwa only have 2 bases compare to 4 or 5 of ret's bases.
MatiNO
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia327 Posts
October 22 2010 06:18 GMT
#132
Voirdire that interview was 1 month ago. The game has changed from then, so you can't really put that on him.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 22 2010 06:19 GMT
#133
Yeah you can't blame that interview as a contradiction to what he said. He just had to blame this patch because he refuses to blame his play. It wasn't unexpected from what I have read everyone expects him to BM even if the game was perfectly balanced or his race was still favored to win ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
October 22 2010 06:54 GMT
#134
damn, the legends are true about ret. he plays so fast and he's super responsible about macro/creep... holy shit. he needs to play more!!
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
October 22 2010 08:30 GMT
#135
Ret plays very well. Still not sure why he didnt go for a few ultralisks in game 1, or can phoenix actually lift those monsters up?
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 08:33:56
October 22 2010 08:33 GMT
#136
On October 22 2010 17:30 crappen wrote:
Ret plays very well. Still not sure why he didnt go for a few ultralisks in game 1, or can phoenix actually lift those monsters up?


nope they can't - wouldn't make sense neither logically nor gameplay-wise

was surprised myself, ultras are a pretty strong response even when a protoss has phoenixes: "you kill my overlords? well guess what, I'll just kill your friggin base then"
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Schickysc
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada380 Posts
October 22 2010 08:37 GMT
#137
On October 22 2010 17:30 crappen wrote:
Ret plays very well. Still not sure why he didnt go for a few ultralisks in game 1, or can phoenix actually lift those monsters up?


Phoenix can't lift massive units. That would be hilarious!

Vods are up on my channel (link in the OP and my sig) for anyone that missed these, or the previous 3 KoTH's.
Shoot for the Moon, Find a Star
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
October 22 2010 08:41 GMT
#138
Btw, during the games the caster (Schicky?) was talking about how it was unsure whether there would be another KOTH next week. Was that doubt just about this week, or is it unsure whether KOTH will continue at all?
Cause I'm really looking forward to ret beating off some contesters
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 22 2010 09:00 GMT
#139
next koth will be sure 100% on 27th oct
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
October 22 2010 10:37 GMT
#140
On October 22 2010 18:00 tosS.ita wrote:
next koth will be sure 100% on 27th oct


Fucking Awesome.
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
October 22 2010 11:11 GMT
#141
On October 22 2010 18:00 tosS.ita wrote:
next koth will be sure 100% on 27th oct


Nice tosS! hope it goes well for u guys
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