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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
October 14 2010 11:12 GMT
#1461
streamms?
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
October 14 2010 11:12 GMT
#1462
Anyone else think the female commentator is super hot?
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
October 14 2010 11:12 GMT
#1463
On October 14 2010 20:08 Wunder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 20:08 shannn wrote:
Should be a 2nd team match. Zenith vs Prime I think ?


fOu vs Prime

Thanks I was already trying to edit it but not needed anymore
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 14 2010 11:13 GMT
#1464
On October 14 2010 20:10 Nu11 wrote:
Total not cheese.

That protoss way out played him.

awesome build and great control and play.

ITR was simply outplayed.


Can't believe you guys are calling it cheese. ITR scouted late. The stargate was sitting right in his base.


This is no different than a marine banshee push. It's early aggression, not cheese. Learn the difference.

If anything banshees are far more cheese than voidrays.



I agree, however, ITR used a pretty risky build for those positions. I don't think he should have added the reactor onto the rax as soon as he saw the stargate. Probably would have been better to have a steady pump of marines sooner instead of waiting for the reactor to build.
TL+ Member
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 11:15:16
October 14 2010 11:13 GMT
#1465
On October 14 2010 20:12 Tevinhead wrote:
Anyone else think the female commentator is super hot?


Not i
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OMG HongUn! How can I forget my hope for GSL since SKS loss... HONG UN HONG UN !
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 14 2010 11:13 GMT
#1466
On October 14 2010 20:12 Skyze wrote:
streamms?


ya please streams? Does anyone know of the gom player will work on a macbook?
TL+ Member
Ranarius Webfoot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 11:15:39
October 14 2010 11:14 GMT
#1467
On October 14 2010 20:12 Tevinhead wrote:
Anyone else think the female commentator is super hot?

YES

also the gomtv stream is working for me today, anyone else?
Mom, can you check under the bed and see if there's cannons coming in?
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
October 14 2010 11:15 GMT
#1468
rain STX and choya pretty nice
yowza
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland210 Posts
October 14 2010 11:16 GMT
#1469
On October 14 2010 20:09 Tevinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 20:07 yowza wrote:
Why do people refer to that as cheese, because he used void rays? It was just a timing attack, wasn't a proxied stargate or an all in. If it isn't zealots and stalkers its hurr durr cheese amirite?

Cheese is a pejorative expression which refers to a strategy that is highly unconventional and designed to take one's opponent by surprise.

Minus the 'highly' I think that about sums it up.


Quoting liquipedia?

"In general, cheese is hard to beat if not scouted but easy to defeat if it is scouted."

He scouted it before the first VR was even out, responded by building addons instead of pumping marines and didn't get enough bunkers up.

"If a build order classified as Cheese fails, the player using it will usually be far behind in the game."

As it was not an all in and it wasn't pure voidrays (he had a sizable groundarmy aswell) he would have caused considerable damage even if he had been forced to retreat so again it doesn't apply here. Not to mention he would have gained map control regardless as the terran would have to turtle up.

"Finally, the usage of the term is often restricted to the victim of the "cheesy" strategy, to play down the opponent's achievement. "

Now that sounds about accurate of this situation.
derp
Zakka
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands762 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 11:17:03
October 14 2010 11:16 GMT
#1470
Just tuned in, hq stream is defintely a lot better
Amsterdam
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 14 2010 11:16 GMT
#1471
On October 14 2010 20:12 Tevinhead wrote:
Anyone else think the female commentator is super hot?


Indeed.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
October 14 2010 11:17 GMT
#1472
On October 14 2010 20:16 yowza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 20:09 Tevinhead wrote:
On October 14 2010 20:07 yowza wrote:
Why do people refer to that as cheese, because he used void rays? It was just a timing attack, wasn't a proxied stargate or an all in. If it isn't zealots and stalkers its hurr durr cheese amirite?

Cheese is a pejorative expression which refers to a strategy that is highly unconventional and designed to take one's opponent by surprise.

Minus the 'highly' I think that about sums it up.


Quoting liquipedia?

"In general, cheese is hard to beat if not scouted but easy to defeat if it is scouted."

He scouted it before the first VR was even out, responded by building addons instead of pumping marines and didn't get enough bunkers up.

"If a build order classified as Cheese fails, the player using it will usually be far behind in the game."

As it was not an all in and it wasn't pure voidrays (he had a sizable groundarmy aswell) he would have caused considerable damage even if he had been forced to retreat so again it doesn't apply here. Not to mention he would have gained map control regardless as the terran would have to turtle up.

"Finally, the usage of the term is often restricted to the victim of the "cheesy" strategy, to play down the opponent's achievement. "

Now that sounds about accurate of this situation.

He scouted it late the voidray was almost complete. And if the rush had been scouted earlier and failed I'm pretty sure the protoss was at a significant disadvantage.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
October 14 2010 11:18 GMT
#1473
On October 14 2010 20:16 lynx.oblige wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 20:12 Tevinhead wrote:
Anyone else think the female commentator is super hot?


Indeed.


hell yes she is
Zakka
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands762 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 11:19:47
October 14 2010 11:19 GMT
#1474
AM I correct to asume that there will be no more matches 2day?
Amsterdam
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
October 14 2010 11:19 GMT
#1475
does anyone got more informations about fOu? haven't heard anything of them...
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
October 14 2010 11:19 GMT
#1476
Cheese, funky, whatever u wanna call it. When you FE, you FE based on the ability to defend against most things the opponent can throw at you.

ITR didn't seem to micro that as good as he could've. Also, not too sure about the decision of building a reactor when you know your opponent is pushing in the next 30-40 seconds. But whatever.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
October 14 2010 11:19 GMT
#1477
On October 14 2010 20:09 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 20:09 NExt wrote:
unfamiliar with fOu only know choya/rain and only really know CheckPrime .. who are the teams heavy hitters?


For prime? Maka and Check.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 20:09 SiegeMode wrote:
On October 14 2010 20:07 Tevinhead wrote:
I don't think Koreans quite understand the concept of Halloween. They make it seem like a happy celebration.


Isn't it though? At least for my family, halloween is like christmas with more booze and candy and less presents.


Judging from the trick and treating in a lot of neighborhood, it seems like it here in the US too.


Don't forget PoltPrime, who knocked Iron out pretty early last GSL.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
October 14 2010 11:19 GMT
#1478
On October 14 2010 20:17 Tevinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 20:16 yowza wrote:
On October 14 2010 20:09 Tevinhead wrote:
On October 14 2010 20:07 yowza wrote:
Why do people refer to that as cheese, because he used void rays? It was just a timing attack, wasn't a proxied stargate or an all in. If it isn't zealots and stalkers its hurr durr cheese amirite?

Cheese is a pejorative expression which refers to a strategy that is highly unconventional and designed to take one's opponent by surprise.

Minus the 'highly' I think that about sums it up.


Quoting liquipedia?

"In general, cheese is hard to beat if not scouted but easy to defeat if it is scouted."

He scouted it before the first VR was even out, responded by building addons instead of pumping marines and didn't get enough bunkers up.

"If a build order classified as Cheese fails, the player using it will usually be far behind in the game."

As it was not an all in and it wasn't pure voidrays (he had a sizable groundarmy aswell) he would have caused considerable damage even if he had been forced to retreat so again it doesn't apply here. Not to mention he would have gained map control regardless as the terran would have to turtle up.

"Finally, the usage of the term is often restricted to the victim of the "cheesy" strategy, to play down the opponent's achievement. "

Now that sounds about accurate of this situation.

He scouted it late the voidray was almost complete. And if the rush had been scouted earlier and failed I'm pretty sure the protoss was at a significant disadvantage.

You're exactly right. Like I said, if 2 fact is cheesy, rush to VR should be too. He would have certainly been at a disadvantage if he hadn't done enough damage.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 14 2010 11:19 GMT
#1479
could someone stream this? I'm on a macbook and gomtv doesn't support mac os ;(
would be greatly appreciated
TL+ Member
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
October 14 2010 11:20 GMT
#1480
On October 14 2010 20:12 Tevinhead wrote:
Anyone else think the female commentator is super hot?

Ummm... the blouse has got to go.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
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