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Final Update: Replays and VODs from this: Starcraft Gaming League - Team EG vs ROOT Gaming (Yay!)
Replays are up here: Link (The 7 most recent/under the event "SGL - ROOT vs EG" Game 4 between Axslav and SLush is highly recommended!
VOD is up here: Link (something weird happened with game 1 in the VOD so that game is not there)
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When you think of some of the best and most prominent Starcraft 2 clans today, Team EG and ROOT Gaming are definitely two teams not far from the top of that list. Well on Tuesday, October 5th at 9:00PM EDT (6:00PM Pacific) these two clans will be facing off in SGL's Starcraft 2 clan league. Winner's League elimination style, first team to take 4 wins takes the series.
Apart from these two teams' star studded rosters: EG: iNcontroL, iNkA, LzGaMeR, Machine, axslav, and the recently joined idrA. ROOT: Sheth, drewbie, CauthonLuck, KiwiKaKi, qxc, these two teams interestingly have two completely different generations of Starcraft gamers.
Team EG is comprised of old school Starcraft gamers who have made names for themselves back in the days of Broodwar and have made the successful transition into Starcraft 2, while ROOT Gaming consists of newer players to the Starcraft pro scene who exploded into the spotlight during the beta phase of Starcraft 2.
Will the old guards from the days of Broodwar claim dominance over the newer kids on the block here in Starcraft 2? Or will the newer generation of Starcraft gamers leave the older guys in the dust?
[Update] Starting map: Jungle Basin
Watch the series unfold on Tuesday, October 5th at 9:00PM EST (6:00PM PST) on the GosuGamers' streaming channel.
[Update #2] Everyone's favorite Gretorp! is going to be in the house, casting this.
[Update #3]
On October 06 2010 09:49 GenoZStriker wrote:
Line-ups are
ROOT Gaming
SUGGY
KiWiKaKi
QXC
Slush
Evil Geniuses
LzGaMeR
Machine
Axslav
iNcontroL
SUGGY and LzGaMeR are starters
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I'll reserve this post. Should be good a clan match. Although most of the players have been busy :/ Machine + iNkA WCG and iNc at his pageant.
Follow EG Twitter for updates on this match.
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Rooting for ROOT! :D Hope all the games are very good though.
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should be good but Idra won't be playing I don't think 
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WOW O_O battle of the superstars
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want to see EG win  although dunno, root is so strong and beat them before... hoping for an epic rematch (aka hoping kiwi doenst AK)
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Canada5565 Posts
Cool!
Matchups and map order please!
I'll definitely tune in for this. Need more of these kinds of things.
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^ That will all be known tomorrow. I hope he updates the OP when it starts <_<. I'll update my first post (second post of the thread) if he doesn't.
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the teams/players vote on the maps i believe, and the roster hasnt been submitted by the teams yet from what I know.
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kiwikaki vs idra would be epic, looks like some great matches are coming up!
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Line-ups will be submitted 30 minutes before the match. There is a starting map and losers' pick.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
don't forget ladder topping and recent vT champ AXSLAV
Hopefully he will play. Strifecro is awesome as well.
We will do our best!
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Should be sweet, will give me somethign to watch @ work :o
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On October 05 2010 10:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:don't forget ladder topping and recent vT champ AXSLAV Hopefully he will play. Strifecro is awesome as well. We will do our best!
axslav is def one of the most underrated players
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
nice! either IdrA all-kills and starts lecturing the root terrans about self-respect or he'll lose and bm spectacularly. definition of a win-win ^^
IdrA vs Drewbie rematch on Kulas?
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i dont think idra is playing sry
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On October 05 2010 10:31 drewbie.root wrote:
i dont think idra is playing sry
ahh because of the delay? well it would've been more fun with him but you cant always get what you want i guess.
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I think idra has to be submitted on the team roster during the signups for that clan league, which he isn't. Plus I doubt he's a fan of playing in cross-world lag lol.
Hoping EG can take this one, but roots lineup is quite solid. GLHF
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EGs team is full of merited players...from SC:BW, they've showed underwhelming results in SC2 while ROOT is pretty much a top contender for best sc2 team outside of korea.
Root all the way..assuming Idra wont play.
My heart will always be with EG though, Incontrol for the win.
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full roster or is it a 4 players from each team clan war?
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I think its like winners league first to 4 wins? Not entirely sure if this is the same clan league.
But at least EG got 1st place (Axslav) and 3rd place (LZ) at yesterday's vT gaming open :o
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so many power houses! dont know who to cheer for, glhf to both teams!
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On October 05 2010 10:43 asianinvasian wrote:
full roster or is it a 4 players from each team clan war?
It's 4vs.4
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On October 05 2010 10:29 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 10:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:don't forget ladder topping and recent vT champ AXSLAV Hopefully he will play. Strifecro is awesome as well. We will do our best! axslav is def one of the most underrated players
clearly you dont know his wc3 past, axslav was severely overrated for a very long time (by myself included ^^)
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I think ROOT is going to take this one if it's not in the format of winner plays next round. ROOT seems to have the more solid lineup, especially with Kiwikaki and qxc.
Cheering for EG though.
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iNcontroL
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On October 05 2010 10:51 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 10:29 TT1 wrote:On October 05 2010 10:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:don't forget ladder topping and recent vT champ AXSLAV Hopefully he will play. Strifecro is awesome as well. We will do our best! axslav is def one of the most underrated players clearly you dont know his wc3 past, axslav was severely overrated for a very long time (by myself included ^^)
What? He is talking about SC2.. what does war3 have to do with it?
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Yeah seriously, way to ruin a good post.
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On October 05 2010 10:31 drewbie.root wrote:
i dont think idra is playing sry
GL Drewbie, ace em
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is this over? the stream is offline and its only 10 pm est
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Incontrol has this. I want to see an Incontroll all-kill =D.
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On October 05 2010 11:08 lim1017 wrote:
is this over? the stream is offline and its only 10 pm est
in the op: its tmr. (tues, oct 5th)
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man im retarded sry -_- i thought for some reason it was tues
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cherry on top: Gretorp is going to be on casting this!
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Man....I love most of the EG guys....but I also love Kiwi....which to choose?!
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Should be interesting to watch for sure.
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idra could allkill root, if he doesnt play i think root will win like 4-3
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Whoever said Axslav was overrated in WC3 is quite misinformed. He was probably the most exciting player in the scene, yet almost noone knew of him.
Definitely watching tonight!
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On October 05 2010 10:29 Telcontar wrote:
nice! either IdrA all-kills and starts lecturing the root terrans about self-respect or he'll lose and bm spectacularly. definition of a win-win ^^
IdrA vs Drewbie rematch on Kulas?
This is exactly why they should do everything possible to get Idra to participate.
![[image loading]](http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6921/basementcatimbassmall.png)
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go ROOT. WOOT!!! alot of roots members played BW aswell didnt they? CatZ and Drewbie for sure
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I dont think machine, inka and ax are that good, but im still rooting for EG because i cant stand drewbie;p
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no one even mentioned catz/slush/suggy, should make for a sick cw
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Sick lineups, gonna be great!
How many hours from now is this CW starting? Having trouble converting PST to CET.
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Unfo,
3am for you
CET is +6 from EST
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Thanks! I'm definitely gonna stay up for that!
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I vaguely remember hearing Tasteless was on EG as well...
This should be pretty badass. So many amazing players. I almost wish that it was proleague style instead of the traditional clanwar thing so I could see more of these guys play.
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On October 05 2010 23:14 Ezze wrote:
Whoever said Axslav was overrated in WC3 is quite misinformed. He was probably the most exciting player in the scene, yet almost noone knew of him.
Definitely watching tonight!
most ingenious, but with 130 APM you can only do so much..he used to get absolutely destroyed in most of his games, everyone knew who he was, from Sky to Grubby....He was my favourite American forever, even before he blew up for beating Sky. After that happened he became over rated, people used to pick him to win LAN events and such, when clearly LongWalk is a much better player than him. If you watched as many Axslav games as me, ive watched everything out there in the past 4 years, you'd understand my point. He is a nice person, and a great player, but there is a reason he tries to avoid mirror matches, and his strength lies in 2v2, and thats because he is a meta game player.
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You people are severely underrating some of the players. Axslav is hands down EG's best protoss. For ROOT, suggy is getting pretty damn solid and slush/catz are both showing the QQ'ers that zerg is amazing in the right hands. On top of that, ROOT has drewbie, qxc, sheth, cauthon and kiwikaki. Honestly, I don't think EG has much of chance.  Go ROOT!
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I feel like I have to give this to ROOT if Idra isn't playing. Sorry EG.
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On October 05 2010 23:58 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 23:14 Ezze wrote:
Whoever said Axslav was overrated in WC3 is quite misinformed. He was probably the most exciting player in the scene, yet almost noone knew of him.
Definitely watching tonight! most ingenious, but with 130 APM you can only do so much..he used to get absolutely destroyed in most of his games, everyone knew who he was, from Sky to Grubby....He was my favourite American forever, even before he blew up for beating Sky. After that happened he became over rated, people used to pick him to win LAN events and such, when clearly LongWalk is a much better player than him. If you watched as many Axslav games as me, ive watched everything out there in the past 4 years, you'd understand my point. He is a nice person, and a great player, but there is a reason he tries to avoid mirror matches, and his strength lies in 2v2, and thats because he is a meta game player.
I remember back in the day when I saw one of his games for the first time I was instantly hooked. It was by far the most entertaining, unique, and well executed strategy I had seen and he pulled it off with about 95 APM in that game I believe. He became my fav player immediately.
Regarding mirror matches though, have you seen his PvP vs HuK I believe where he clearly gets outnumbered in Collossi and grabs a Mothership and wins? It was pure Axslavness.
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On October 05 2010 23:54 unfo wrote:Thanks! I'm definitely gonna stay up for that!
looks like its at 3 am
Not a good time for European viewers
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On October 06 2010 00:34 Ezze wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 23:58 Holcan wrote:On October 05 2010 23:14 Ezze wrote:
Whoever said Axslav was overrated in WC3 is quite misinformed. He was probably the most exciting player in the scene, yet almost noone knew of him.
Definitely watching tonight! most ingenious, but with 130 APM you can only do so much..he used to get absolutely destroyed in most of his games, everyone knew who he was, from Sky to Grubby....He was my favourite American forever, even before he blew up for beating Sky. After that happened he became over rated, people used to pick him to win LAN events and such, when clearly LongWalk is a much better player than him. If you watched as many Axslav games as me, ive watched everything out there in the past 4 years, you'd understand my point. He is a nice person, and a great player, but there is a reason he tries to avoid mirror matches, and his strength lies in 2v2, and thats because he is a meta game player. I remember back in the day when I saw one of his games for the first time I was instantly hooked. It was by far the most entertaining, unique, and well executed strategy I had seen and he pulled it off with about 95 APM in that game I believe. He became my fav player immediately. Regarding mirror matches though, have you seen his PvP vs HuK I believe where he clearly gets outnumbered in Collossi and grabs a Mothership and wins? It was pure Axslavness.
Ya, Ax is amazing As i was hinting at his meta game more than makes up for his lack of execution.
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cool, excited to watch
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This match-up is pure win. Can't wait to watch the games. =)
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United States4126 Posts
Yay! Gretorp's casting <3
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On October 06 2010 01:03 Kinky wrote:
Yay! Gretorp's casting <3
From what I understand, it'll be Greptop and myself.
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If Idra isn't playing then I think root's got this. Otherwise I don't see how eg will lose. Idra looks to be a step above his competition here.
Lol and wow that pic of fruit and idra roflmao.
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Guys EG's League roster is:
LzGaMeR
Axslav
StrifeCro
iNkA
Machine
iNcontroL
Due to timezone differences, time and the latency it's difficult for Idra to play.
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Looking forward to this later, EG Fighting!!!
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Nooo Idra's not playing
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i dont understand why people think EG will win.
Idra won't play. He recently complained that the connection to NA server is as bad as to EU server...
And CauthonLuck, KiwiKaKi, qxc (random order) will tear through EG lineup.
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On October 06 2010 01:29 Frankon wrote:
i dont understand why people think EG will win.
Idra won't play. He recently complained that the connection to NA server is as bad as to EU server...
And CauthonLuck, KiwiKaKi, qxc (random order) will tear through EG lineup.
Yeah, esp since most ROOT members have also been training for IEM, MLG, and most importantly, Nexus Word Wars. I suspect if EG will take any games, it will be with Axslav or Lz.
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How do you call it ROOT vs. EG ...without IdrA? That' That's like saying "The rebel alliance verses the empire... without Luke Skywalker."
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On October 06 2010 01:36 Rib0flav1n wrote:
How do you call it ROOT vs. EG ...without IdrA? That' That's like saying "The rebel alliance verses the empire... without Luke Skywalker."
you know in this analogy EG is Empire... they got everything and Root have nothing ;D
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Poll: EG or ROOT?Team Root (12) 40% Team Edward (Idra + EG?) (9) 30% Team EG (7) 23% Team Jacob (EG - Idra?) (2) 7% 30 total votes Your vote: EG or ROOT? (Vote): Team EG
(Vote): Team Root
(Vote): Team Edward (Idra + EG?)
(Vote): Team Jacob (EG - Idra?)
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What a coincidence My name is Jacob ! :O
Good luck tonight RooT ~ I'm hopeing for some Great games
1 2 3 EG FIGHTING!!
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doubt idra will play because of lag from korea.
Expecting root to take this pretty easily because Kiwikaki is really good and drewbie is playing well atm.
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noooo worse time of the day for EU
hope there will be VODS asap(maybe when im drinking my morning cofee later, yes?)
no idea who to cheer for, both teams are really good and solid
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On October 05 2010 23:58 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 23:14 Ezze wrote:
Whoever said Axslav was overrated in WC3 is quite misinformed. He was probably the most exciting player in the scene, yet almost noone knew of him.
Definitely watching tonight! most ingenious, but with 130 APM you can only do so much..he used to get absolutely destroyed in most of his games, everyone knew who he was, from Sky to Grubby....He was my favourite American forever, even before he blew up for beating Sky. After that happened he became over rated, people used to pick him to win LAN events and such, when clearly LongWalk is a much better player than him. If you watched as many Axslav games as me, ive watched everything out there in the past 4 years, you'd understand my point. He is a nice person, and a great player, but there is a reason he tries to avoid mirror matches, and his strength lies in 2v2, and thats because he is a meta game player.
Talking too much WC3. He has low APM in SC2 also but he could be the best player on EG outside of Idra. I don't know what you mean in mirrors but his PvP is also pretty f'ing good in SC2.
On October 06 2010 00:51 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 00:34 Ezze wrote:On October 05 2010 23:58 Holcan wrote:On October 05 2010 23:14 Ezze wrote:
Whoever said Axslav was overrated in WC3 is quite misinformed. He was probably the most exciting player in the scene, yet almost noone knew of him.
Definitely watching tonight! most ingenious, but with 130 APM you can only do so much..he used to get absolutely destroyed in most of his games, everyone knew who he was, from Sky to Grubby....He was my favourite American forever, even before he blew up for beating Sky. After that happened he became over rated, people used to pick him to win LAN events and such, when clearly LongWalk is a much better player than him. If you watched as many Axslav games as me, ive watched everything out there in the past 4 years, you'd understand my point. He is a nice person, and a great player, but there is a reason he tries to avoid mirror matches, and his strength lies in 2v2, and thats because he is a meta game player. I remember back in the day when I saw one of his games for the first time I was instantly hooked. It was by far the most entertaining, unique, and well executed strategy I had seen and he pulled it off with about 95 APM in that game I believe. He became my fav player immediately. Regarding mirror matches though, have you seen his PvP vs HuK I believe where he clearly gets outnumbered in Collossi and grabs a Mothership and wins? It was pure Axslavness. Ya, Ax is amazing As i was hinting at his meta game more than makes up for his lack of execution.
I don't think you're using the term execution correctly. Just because he has low APM might hinder him in some ways but his execution is crisp, his build orders are very strong and refined and he's great at adapting mid game.
On October 06 2010 02:25 Fianchetto wrote:
doubt idra will play because of lag from korea.
Expecting root to take this pretty easily because Kiwikaki is really good and drewbie is playing well atm.
I don't think its up for debate, he's not on the sG league roster, so he can't play. I know that roots lineup is strong, kiwikaki and drewbie are amazing players for sure, but LZ's been tearing up the ITL and iccup shtuff, and Axslav took 1st place in the vTgaming open, beating Socke (considered one of the best EU toss's) 3-1 handily, and LZ took 3rd. EG has their share of hot players too.
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2 really good teams! gogogo! this will be some great matches!
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Good stuff. Will definitely tune in for this one.
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go evil geniuses down with those root scrubs !!!!
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On October 06 2010 02:34 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 23:58 Holcan wrote:On October 05 2010 23:14 Ezze wrote:
Whoever said Axslav was overrated in WC3 is quite misinformed. He was probably the most exciting player in the scene, yet almost noone knew of him.
Definitely watching tonight! most ingenious, but with 130 APM you can only do so much..he used to get absolutely destroyed in most of his games, everyone knew who he was, from Sky to Grubby....He was my favourite American forever, even before he blew up for beating Sky. After that happened he became over rated, people used to pick him to win LAN events and such, when clearly LongWalk is a much better player than him. If you watched as many Axslav games as me, ive watched everything out there in the past 4 years, you'd understand my point. He is a nice person, and a great player, but there is a reason he tries to avoid mirror matches, and his strength lies in 2v2, and thats because he is a meta game player. Talking too much WC3. He has low APM in SC2 also but he could be the best player on EG outside of Idra. I don't know what you mean in mirrors but his PvP is also pretty f'ing good in SC2. Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 00:51 Holcan wrote:On October 06 2010 00:34 Ezze wrote:On October 05 2010 23:58 Holcan wrote:On October 05 2010 23:14 Ezze wrote:
Whoever said Axslav was overrated in WC3 is quite misinformed. He was probably the most exciting player in the scene, yet almost noone knew of him.
Definitely watching tonight! most ingenious, but with 130 APM you can only do so much..he used to get absolutely destroyed in most of his games, everyone knew who he was, from Sky to Grubby....He was my favourite American forever, even before he blew up for beating Sky. After that happened he became over rated, people used to pick him to win LAN events and such, when clearly LongWalk is a much better player than him. If you watched as many Axslav games as me, ive watched everything out there in the past 4 years, you'd understand my point. He is a nice person, and a great player, but there is a reason he tries to avoid mirror matches, and his strength lies in 2v2, and thats because he is a meta game player. I remember back in the day when I saw one of his games for the first time I was instantly hooked. It was by far the most entertaining, unique, and well executed strategy I had seen and he pulled it off with about 95 APM in that game I believe. He became my fav player immediately. Regarding mirror matches though, have you seen his PvP vs HuK I believe where he clearly gets outnumbered in Collossi and grabs a Mothership and wins? It was pure Axslavness. Ya, Ax is amazing As i was hinting at his meta game more than makes up for his lack of execution. I don't think you're using the term execution correctly. Just because he has low APM might hinder him in some ways but his execution is crisp, his build orders are very strong and refined and he's great at adapting mid game. Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 02:25 Fianchetto wrote:
doubt idra will play because of lag from korea.
Expecting root to take this pretty easily because Kiwikaki is really good and drewbie is playing well atm. I don't think its up for debate, he's not on the sG league roster, so he can't play. I know that roots lineup is strong, kiwikaki and drewbie are amazing players for sure, but LZ's been tearing up the ITL and iccup shtuff, and Axslav took 1st place in the vTgaming open, beating Socke (considered one of the best EU toss's) 3-1 handily, and LZ took 3rd. EG has their share of hot players too.
How is he underrated then if you claim he is quite possibly the best person in EG? and WC3 talk is a must considering that is where he gained notarization, as proven in this thread Axslav is only underrated by BW players, since every wc3 fan knows full well of who he is, and what he is able to accomplish. And no i didnt use execution wrong, unless of course you think HuK has worse execution than Axslav. You're getting awfully nit picky for me saying that Axslav is not underrated.
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Anyone know what the entire map pool is? Is it ICCUP's broodwar reboot set or the standard Blizzard Ladder or both?
Note: Yes I saw the starting map, was wondering about after that.
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What a all-stars fest. GO ROOT!
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Without IdrA, EG will be lucky to win 1 game imo.
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On October 05 2010 10:29 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 10:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:don't forget ladder topping and recent vT champ AXSLAV Hopefully he will play. Strifecro is awesome as well. We will do our best! axslav is def one of the most underrated players
Quoted for truth. He is quite a player.
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I've never watched a stream on TL before, is it free for all members? Do I just click the link on the right side of the page under the calendar?
Looks like it'll be good!
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On October 06 2010 04:53 CrAzEdBaDgEr wrote:
I've never watched a stream on TL before, is it free for all members? Do I just click the link on the right side of the page under the calendar?
Looks like it'll be good!
Yup, that's right. Welcome to TL and funny name. 
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Awesome, thanks. The gf is out of town so I'm free to watch other people play video games all night! I'm excited! LOL.
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ahhh welcome to the high life crazedbadger
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Haha, you don't know the half of it, I'm gonna make a pit stop for a nice new bottle of scotch after work first so I can enjoy a glass while I watch. 
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should be close but i give an edge to root. hoping to see the replays!
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Yeah I think Root's gonna win hands down. I'm going to guess 4-1 root winning.
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On October 06 2010 05:24 CrAzEdBaDgEr wrote:Haha, you don't know the half of it, I'm gonna make a pit stop for a nice new bottle of scotch after work first so I can enjoy a glass while I watch.
Sounds classy. 
On October 06 2010 05:29 St3MoR wrote:
should be close but i give an edge to root. hoping to see the replays!
We'll have the replay pack up on www.root-gaming.com shortly after the event so please check there if you miss the event/VODs.
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Uhh, would love to see that but it's damn late where i live
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On October 06 2010 05:31 asdfTT123 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 05:24 CrAzEdBaDgEr wrote:Haha, you don't know the half of it, I'm gonna make a pit stop for a nice new bottle of scotch after work first so I can enjoy a glass while I watch. Sounds classy. Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 05:29 St3MoR wrote:
should be close but i give an edge to root. hoping to see the replays! We'll have the replay pack up on www.root-gaming.com shortly after the event so please check there if you miss the event/VODs.
great! gogo root
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P.S. I'll be rooting for root too!
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There's only one Drewbie! There's only one Drewbie! With sweets in his hand and a cheeky little smile. Drewbie is a pedophile.
I wanted EG to win because of Idra but now? Hmm. I still think I'm behind EG. InControl makes me laugh a lot.
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I can't wait to see this, I liked watching the last one for sure
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On October 06 2010 02:34 ZlaSHeR wrote:
I don't think its up for debate, he's not on the sG league roster, so he can't play. I know that roots lineup is strong, kiwikaki and drewbie are amazing players for sure, but LZ's been tearing up the ITL and iccup shtuff, and Axslav took 1st place in the vTgaming open, beating Socke (considered one of the best EU toss's) 3-1 handily, and LZ took 3rd. EG has their share of hot players too.
I was watching LZs stream yesterday(or the day before) and he got owned pretty bad by Kiwikaki 3-4 times in a row, so I dunno...
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On October 06 2010 05:40 Copenap wrote:Uhh, would love to see that but it's damn late where i live
We'll have the VOD's on our Ustream after the event is finished.
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oh yeah im definately staying up for that! gonna be an epic match!
EG FIGHTIIIING!!
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can't stay up for it, gotta stand up 5 hours after it starts i am rooting for both teams, think that root has it though.
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I like the members of EG a lot more, but I see ROOT winning. But hey, you never know, and it will be fun to watch no matter what.
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Love me some EG, but definitely a great Root team as well. VODs will be a must with exams in a couple of days, but I am just so excited to see how this turns out. And AK for either side would be a terrible disappointment.
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Also Raelcun and CatZ (100% unbiased commentator) will be casting this on iCCup TV tonight as well as Gosugamers! Good times!
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:/ Oops didn't realize I had posted. Well that's good. The more casters the better I guess.
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On October 06 2010 06:51 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Also Raelcun and CatZ (100% unbiased commentator) will be casting this on iCCup TV tonight as well as Gosugamers! Good times!
Wait, doesn't this start an hour after the ITL? Which will be on iccup tv?
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Are we going to see iNcontroL vs. qxc rematch to kick things off?
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will watch
gonna put my money on root if they go with triple terran + kiwi though :o
gghf gents
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rS vs EG week 1 (4-2) Win
rS vs Root week 2 (2-4) Loss
Both teams have some amazing talent and depending on who shows (always key) and who has a great night the match could really go either way. Don't think IdrA is playing with EG in this North American league, he is not part of their roster.
http://sgleague.forumotion.com/team-profiles-f4/evil-geniuseseg-t55.htm
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rofl ... EG dont stand a chance ...
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^ He will not play. I don't think he would want to wake up 9:00AM in the morning to play laggy games either.
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with axslav, EG might have a chance now. If idrA plays... ohhh my god.... 20k viewers atleast... they would won
gretorp is streaming!! the best analysis from a streamer!!!
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Kay, figured one would be on 2, just was wondering which. Thanks.
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Line-ups are
ROOT Gaming
SUGGY
KiWiKaKi
QXC
Slush
Evil Geniuses
LzGaMeR
Machine
Axslav
iNcontroL
SUGGY and LzGaMeR are starters
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I pray to god for no mirror matches.
Wanna see Kiwikaki vs machine.
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booo. I wanted to see drewbie and sheth play
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wow, I really always considered root the best in NA, this will be a sick match.
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man i wish idra was playing :D
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iNcontroL
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THIS CLAN WAR IS NOW UNDER PROTEST.
The nation of Sweden must answer for the crimes of this clan war.
You will be hearing form my lawyer: THE BEAR
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iNcontroL
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why the fuck was kiwikaki allowed to obs when we all got kicked?
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hoping for some good games this series ^^
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who are these random people I see obsing? They are chit chatting away in obs chat so they are obviously not casting. Who are they?
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Admins don't really know what they are doing? O.o
Edit - Random talking in spectate too is annoying
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On October 06 2010 10:15 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
why the fuck was kiwikaki allowed to obs when we all got kicked?
Why is everyone joining anyways. My understanding is no obs.........
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lol, was there suppose to be co-casters?
Gretorp is hardwired to solo cast. Other guy can't even get a word in lol.
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On October 06 2010 10:21 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 10:15 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
why the fuck was kiwikaki allowed to obs when we all got kicked? Why is everyone joining anyways. My understanding is no obs.........
It's a team war. In a team war, the team generally observes.
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ok so if your understanding is "no obs" then why was fayth/kiwi in there? hence my question...
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On October 06 2010 10:24 Alou wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 10:21 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On October 06 2010 10:15 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
why the fuck was kiwikaki allowed to obs when we all got kicked? Why is everyone joining anyways. My understanding is no obs......... It's a team war. In a team war, the team generally observes.
When it's widely avaliable on multiple streams? That's just plain rude to the players imo
On October 06 2010 10:26 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
ok so if your understanding is "no obs" then why was fayth/kiwi in there? hence my question...
Oh I agree. Just asking why everyone is even joining when SGL has a no obs rule. Like don't join, go watch the stream, ezpz.
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i wish idra was playing! but the korean - Us ping is horrible = /
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The rule is no OBS, because ICCup perfers it, and so does Gosugamer (atleast thats what GnR told me) kiwi got in there by accident ( so i was told)
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On October 06 2010 10:31 nGBeast wrote:
The rule is no OBS, because ICCup perfers it, and so does Gosugamer (atleast thats what GnR told me) kiwi got in there by accident ( so i was told)
Really any event streamed ever should have this rule. Having obs in a streamed game is just silly and plain being greedy.
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I agree, its annoying when teams talk on obs, because for some reason Blizzard decided it was smart to put the obs chat in the middle of the game -.- if it was like wc3 or WoW on the left side above the minimap it would probably be more bearable.
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imagine SPL who got every team member obsing a game
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Is it just me or is the starcraft 2 showmatch/tournament scene in need of a general communications expert/mediator?
I'm not knocking on this event in particular, as it is friggen awesome, but most events could be smoothed out quite a bit. Bnet 2.0 issues dont help, but basic online organizational skills could really really help a lot of people trying to admin tournaments.
As someone who spent 6 years managing 40/25 person raids in world of warcraft (WoW is lawl, I know, but the management side of guilds was not as faceroll as the rest of the game), I cringe when i see nonchalant disorganization.
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I don't want to sound like a complainer but it's so annoying when people, not even the hosts of this event but the two teams, can't get their shit together. I don't want to watch as people get kicked then rejoin, because they're stupid, only to get kicked again. It seems like every tourney has these problems of mass disorganization and I imagine that running something like this could be difficult, but I'd assume aside from the initial scheduling and no-shows there shouldn't be too many problems.
It's taking forever to get these games started. Kind of annoying.
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On October 06 2010 10:41 SentrySteve wrote:
I don't want to sound like a complainer but it's so annoying when people, not even the hosts of this event but the two teams, can't get their shit together. I don't want to watch as people get kicked then rejoin, because they're stupid, only to get kicked again. It seems like every tourney has these problems of mass disorganization and I imagine that running something like this could be difficult, but I'd assume aside from the initial scheduling and no-shows there shouldn't be too many problems.
It's taking forever to get these games started. Kind of annoying.
Blame battle.net 2.0 and the lack of password protected games....
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Could you guys please not turn this thread into shit.
EG vs. ROOT
LzGaMeR < SUGGY - Jungle Basin
Axslav > SUGGY - Lost Temple
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Axslav played really impressive.
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On October 06 2010 10:44 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 10:41 SentrySteve wrote:
I don't want to sound like a complainer but it's so annoying when people, not even the hosts of this event but the two teams, can't get their shit together. I don't want to watch as people get kicked then rejoin, because they're stupid, only to get kicked again. It seems like every tourney has these problems of mass disorganization and I imagine that running something like this could be difficult, but I'd assume aside from the initial scheduling and no-shows there shouldn't be too many problems.
It's taking forever to get these games started. Kind of annoying. Blame battle.net 2.0 and the lack of password protected games....
and being able to join even when you arent getting an invitation with the ID
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omfg so epic just tuned in!! why no idra?
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On October 06 2010 10:54 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote:
omfg so epic just tuned in!! why no idra?
ping problem, no way he can compet at this level of play
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as koreans would say "SANWICHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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axslav doing 1 gate FE robo -> observer first
and not getting killed
I can't think of a more unsafe build (but maybe QXC's build made him feel safe after scouting).
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Man, I really liked Axslav's attack on that expo on the left with the forcefields vs. Slush. It couldn't have been done any better and seems to have turned the momentum of the game to his favor.
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axslave is playing really well
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Really solid play from both players. Fun game. Would recommend :D.
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I'm surprised Slush won without spreading any creep at all.
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that last game was absolutely amazing
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Just started watching halfway through the game but Axslav vs Slush was pretty nice. Axslav's use of dt's was reminiscent of bw PvZ and Slush's burrowed movement to go past forcefields was well done.
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EG vs. ROOT
LzGaMeR < SUGGY - Jungle Basin
Axslav > SUGGY - Lost Temple
Axslav > QXC - Metalopolis
Axslav < Slush - Xel'Naga Caverns
iNcontroL vs. Slush - Steppes of War
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gosugamers
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I dunno about the pure roach play from Slush...
I think Slush could have pushed hive a lot sooner and ended with hive tech...and some spore crawlers
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Once he had any sort of agression with the roaches he had to reinforce and didn't really have the income for hive tech.
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Lol, just watch the frigging ramp :D
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lol status on the ramp block
It's only funny because it happens to me a lot.
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Usually a great build but a few mistakes from incontrol. He really should of fully walled off his main ent... what purpose did having a opening at that point serve? Also, I assume the FF was a mistake b/c it completely failed in it's purpose. It pushed the lings INTO the pylon, not away from it. If he put it right in front of the pylon it would of pushed them back and given time for the probe to get up the extra pylons and maybe even the cannon. Not that it matter much, but the 2nd layer pylon outside the zerg base was off by 1 grid and if it powered all 3 u would of gotten more lings.
Was a battle of inches.
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incontrol taking the pylon & cannon block to another level and failing...
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Wonder if that play is going in the gosuguide
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that was the most fail pylon/cannon block at zerg ramp i have ever seen... what is incontrol thinking? idra definitely would not whine about that kinda of pylon block...
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iNcontroL
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level of hating here is incredible fuck off seriously rofl
there was a blurp of lag when I did the FF obviously I wasn't trying to trap my warping pylon with a gaggle of lings.
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Pretty cool build, I dunno if 3 canons was worth it tho. I think 1 canon + FE would have been better.
Still much love Incontrol!
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Don't understand incontrols play..
-Saving Chronoboosts early when he just cannon contains? I think the extra probes would be more useful.
- The extra cannons? Seems like a waste really, when you could take an expansion with all those wasted minerals and they didn't stop anything.
>_>
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I love it when that pylon block crap gets crushed god I hate when people do that . Gj Slush but thats why I scout on 10 with a drone so if i see forge I can prevent that dumb 2 pylon block :D
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On October 06 2010 11:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
level of hating here is incredible fuck off seriously rofl
there was a blurp of lag when I did the FF obviously I wasn't trying to trap my warping pylon with a gaggle of lings.
Expected as much. Obviously it wasn't intended. That little bit of lag was the game sadly.
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Isn't the point of that build just to slow down the zerg? Why was there THREE cannons? Seemed like a super weak sort of allin build.. not sure what the point was
edit: Wanted to add, Axslav impressed the hell out of me, that was some really sick army control and micro from him
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I thought he should have snuck a pylon into Slush's base and then warp in 10 sentries and focus the extractor.
Idk though this could have worked.
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man how sick would it be if it was Idra as the 4th from EG right now...
machine is baller though
so impressed with axslav though
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On October 06 2010 11:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
level of hating here is incredible fuck off seriously rofl
there was a blurp of lag when I did the FF obviously I wasn't trying to trap my warping pylon with a gaggle of lings.
not hate just criticising the play. as someone else mentioned why bank chrono boosts when you're cannon containing? also the decision to invest 3 cannons and 3 pylons at his ramp when he can easily run by with speedlings is a little mystifying. anyway nice effort.
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EG vs. ROOT
LzGaMeR < SUGGY - Jungle Basin
Axslav > SUGGY - Lost Temple
Axslav > QXC - Metalopolis
Axslav < Slush - Xel'Naga Caverns
iNcontroL < Slush - Steppes of War
Machine vs. Slush - Blistering Sands
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gosugamers
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On October 06 2010 11:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
level of hating here is incredible fuck off seriously rofl
there was a blurp of lag when I did the FF obviously I wasn't trying to trap my warping pylon with a gaggle of lings.
Anyone who doesn't think an EG player with almost nothing else to manage at the time would screw up that forcefield (which wasn't even time-critical) without some externality like lag is very foolish
Props for defending longer than I thought possible and good probe micro.
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I'm not really sure what the purpose of 3 cannons + another pylon outside are for. One cannon contain would have done the exact same thing since lings will just run by anyways if they break it. Also, a little disappointed that he wasn't scouting for hidden expansions. Whenever I do the pylon blocking strat, one of the most important things to do is follow around the drone scout to make sure he isn't doing a hidden expansion.
Just my thoughts...not bad mouthing incontrol or anything. Just curious on the play. When I block with pylons + cannon I usually transition to 4 gate. Wonder if that was the plan.
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I can't believe Machine had that much of an adv... the armies didn't look THAT vastly different but he ended up with a MASSSIVE victory in slushes own base with mutas pounding on his lings as there was a ling war. No idea how that happened but it did.
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EG vs. ROOT
LzGaMeR < SUGGY - Jungle Basin
Axslav > SUGGY - Lost Temple
Axslav > QXC - Metalopolis
Axslav < Slush - Xel'Naga Caverns
iNcontroL < Slush - Steppes of War
Machine > Slush - Blistering Sands
Machine vs. KiWiKaKi - Delta Quadrant
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gosugamers
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iNcontroL
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he made hydras vs me in the previous 2 games and a lot of z's mass roach so if you 1 cannon they rock it and rofl walk to your base.
I'm sorry I didn't play perfect guys.
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I don't see what everyone is bitching about. Its one game, shit happens. He made the wrong judgement call. Get over it?
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oh man machine xD. 6 banelings in the base and 4 into 1 zealot instead of probe line. Oh well must not have been paying attention
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Congratulations team Root. Sick tournament! The game between Axslav and Slush was EPIC.
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kiwikaki is quickly becoming my favorite toss.
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EG vs. ROOT final result
LzGaMeR < SUGGY - Jungle Basin
Axslav > SUGGY - Lost Temple
Axslav > QXC - Metalopolis
Axslav < Slush - Xel'Naga Caverns <- Recommended
iNcontroL < Slush - Steppes of War
Machine > Slush - Blistering Sands
Machine < KiWiKaKi - Delta Quadrant
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gosugamers
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Predicted 4-2 for ROOT and got 4-3. Nice games. Glad ROOT won. Surprised KiWi forgot to block ramp with Zealot after initial lings got in. He's usually so calm in those situations. Good games. Banelings weren't as effective as they could have been. gg's
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On October 06 2010 12:06 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
he made hydras vs me in the previous 2 games and a lot of z's mass roach so if you 1 cannon they rock it and rofl walk to your base.
I'm sorry I didn't play perfect guys.
Understandable, WP to all the players in this Clan battle
Great game Machine vs Kiwikakki. To be able to beat banelings with zealots is, as the phrase goes, GOSU x 2!
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On October 06 2010 12:11 Nevecy wrote:
I don't see what everyone is bitching about. Its one game, shit happens. He made the wrong judgement call. Get over it?
I haven't see anything cross the line in terms of offensiveness or stupidity in relation to opinions expressed about other players. We're not allowed to express disapproval because Inc is on these forums? He's a good player, but he lost that game unnecessarily.
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Those were all very entertaining games, very good clan war! And of course gz to Root. Looking forward to some regames at MLG.
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Lz got a girlfriend.... as expected T_T
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i want the last game's replay badly
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Great games. KiWiKaKi's zealot split during his decisive +1 zealot push was sweet. I'm also very impressed by Axslav's play. He almost pulled off what would've been a super clutch Overseer snipe against SLush, but his DTs stayed under fire too long. Mad respect to the quick thinking for that; it might've turned the game around actually, to delay gold mining even longer there.
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Awesome tournament, enjoyed every game. I was rooting for EG, but congrats to ROOT
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GG's. Was a close match. Till next time guys.
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Great matches tonight!!!! Kiwi is very imba, needs nerf asap.
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Great matches, hope to see more soon.
In other words, what were the songs that were playing at the end of the cast?
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Many well played games today, Root played well, EG played well, Root played better, they deserved the win, congrats, hopefully we'll see more clan wars this good soon.
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On October 06 2010 12:29 DKo wrote:
Great matches, hope to see more soon.
In other words, what were the songs that were playing at the end of the cast?
they're original tracks used w/ permission, artists in the description box.
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really close match, gg's EG ^^
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congrats to ROOT very well played by both :-)
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On October 06 2010 12:34 GG.net_Stream wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 12:29 DKo wrote:
Great matches, hope to see more soon.
In other words, what were the songs that were playing at the end of the cast? they're original tracks used w/ permission, artists in the description box.
oh okay thank you very much
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Great series! SLush vs Axslav was so epic!
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Any chance of the replays being released?
Good job with the stream by the way, fairly good quality throughout
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yeah im uploading em right now, will post and update OP
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Such GG's.
Well played by everyone.
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I didnt know how to go about playing Jungle Basin TvP.. The rocks in the back made me afraid of going 1 Rax expand.. due to voidrays charging on the rocks and then rolling my back expo.. So i figured only safe thing was to play 1 base style.. didnt work out so well~ GG regardless Suggy and Root gaming
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On October 06 2010 13:03 Puremiss wrote:
yeah im uploading em right now, will post and update OP
tyvm!
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ok i updated the OP with the last update containing locations to VODs and replays, enjoy!
and mindblowing games from both EG and ROOT guys it was such a neck and neck "edge of your seat" series and definitely one of the most exciting series I've seen yet!!
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On October 06 2010 13:23 asdfTT123 wrote:The replays are now up on http://www.root-gaming.com. Happy watching...some amazingly epic games. :O
thank you, downloading.
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replaypack of this clanwar (and many others), a nice summary and much more at ROOT's website (root-gaming.com)
Ggs EG, close clanwar.
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Goodness...SLush v. Axslav was simply epic. Just great games all around.
GGs and grats on a nice cw. Really appreciate the quick turn around on replays.
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Very good games ROOT Well played. We look forward to our next meeting.
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first map jungle basin was wierd. ive never played that map and im sure everyone would agree that they would prefer not to play it
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I had a blast watching this series. Thanks EG and ROOT for the excellent games and Gretorp for the lively casting!
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Gretorp casting always makes me banana grin! Great games played by all and thanks for fast replay uploads!
Only major criticism is that I'd hate to play on Jungle Basin :-\ Prolly best to choose a different map next time. Every time I play on that map in a custom, it feels like it epitomizes a lot of things that are wrong with the Blizzard ladder map pool.
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Wow Incontrol.. :/ Anyway good games in general and EG really should have had that series imo.
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GJ, def expected that hehe
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nice replays thx
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Wicked series, Gretorp is a great commentator. The other guy (puremiss?) is hilaribad though
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This happened like a while ago. Why bump it?
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i think he just put up the VODS? not sure
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EVILGeniuses Every Villain Is Lemons Geniuses!
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