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accela
Profile Joined February 2010
Greece314 Posts
October 02 2010 12:10 GMT
#3441
ITR is old player and cannot expect him to have so big downfalls like "newbies"

Cool was just well prepared like to the previous games, his countertactics were smoothed out with his build orders and made ITR seems to be a league lower but still he remains a great player.

Really liked 3rd game, nicely covered the map and denied almost all drops.
Pom
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden14 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 12:31:57
October 02 2010 12:10 GMT
#3442
lame final, rain made so many mistakes. im zerg myself and wanted to see zerg win but I had hope for some epic matches but all we got was fruit owning rain in every possible way lol
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 02 2010 12:10 GMT
#3443
On October 02 2010 21:00 vyyye wrote:
Eveyrone just takes care of everyone in their family there, if the dad wins the lottery he won't use it all for himself, even if his children moved out. Same for the children.
This mentality (often viewed negatively in the west) might be one of the reasons why Korean culture is able to produce a strong and dedicated esports community, in which newer generations pick up the skills from previous ones and true masters are being formed in the end.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Somi
Profile Joined August 2010
Pakistan123 Posts
October 02 2010 12:11 GMT
#3444
Terran failed to exercise the versatile play style all Zergs whine about. Terran was so predictable.

Zerg played with alot of things that were considered gimicky, but which will become norm now..like Nydus, Bane drops etc.

Zerg used literally all the tricks in the book in the finals..even Hydras (sigh) but Terran didnt.
For the Swarm!
metaldragon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States251 Posts
October 02 2010 12:11 GMT
#3445
On October 02 2010 21:09 CScythe wrote:
Cool is like the master of early game defense. If any Zerg could survive the early game like Cool, then nobody would ever dispute Zerg balance.


Day[9] talked about this saying we will see Zergs start to take over after they learn how to "not die" early.
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
October 02 2010 12:11 GMT
#3446
On October 02 2010 21:04 Euriti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 20:59 sadyque wrote:
On October 02 2010 20:55 Gnarg wrote:
It's obvious HopeTorture made so many mistakes that this match doesnt say anything about the balance between the races. Thinking otherwise is retarded.


Yes ITR after winning 99.9% of his GSL games suddenly got confused and retarted. After roflstomping every1 from day 1 to the semi-finals including tester ITR gets stupid all of the sudden. Seems plausible....OR....zerg needs to stop whining and l2plikeCool?


So basically we all gotta play like the best player in the world to win as zerg vs terran?

Well if every zerg wants to win GSL then I guess yea o.O. But if you're content on killing some players in diamond you don't have to become Cool for that.
Elizar
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany431 Posts
October 02 2010 12:11 GMT
#3447
Just saying to the outcome of the finals: YEEEHAAAAA !!!
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 02 2010 12:11 GMT
#3448
On October 02 2010 21:08 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 21:07 Roggay wrote:
On October 02 2010 21:03 Dalavita wrote:
On October 02 2010 21:02 Roggay wrote:
On October 02 2010 20:59 sadyque wrote:
On October 02 2010 20:55 Gnarg wrote:
It's obvious HopeTorture made so many mistakes that this match doesnt say anything about the balance between the races. Thinking otherwise is retarded.


Yes ITR after winning 99.9% of his GSL games suddenly got confused and retarted. After roflstomping every1 from day 1 to the semi-finals including tester ITR gets stupid all of the sudden. Seems plausible....OR....zerg needs to stop whining and l2plikeCool?


Did you watch the games? Its obvious ITR wasnt in his top shape.


You need to learn how competition works.

A superior opponent can make you look stupid.

Everything he tried got countered because it was Cool. Anyone else he'd succeed against and win.

Cool was the better player and he won, hell he even showed how strong zerg can be if played properly.


The fact that cool played better tells in itself that ITR didnt played as good. You can't say zerg is soooo strong watching a terran failing at changing his plans accordingly. Now I understand Idra so much, every terran will justify their whining with the result of this serie.


Did you not understand what I said?

The reason ITR failed at changing his plans is because Cool stopped him at every angle instead of letting him. Yes, Zerg letting terran do what the hell they please is why they're losing.


Did you not understand what I said?

ITR's plan was wrong from the start in many games as Tastosis stated many times, he should have done a 2 base timing push against FruitDealer's aggressive expanding. His turtling and harass way of playing lost him many games there because FruitDealer had the perfect counter for it.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 02 2010 12:11 GMT
#3449
On October 02 2010 21:07 Spidinko wrote:
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On October 02 2010 21:03 foxmeep wrote:
On October 02 2010 21:03 Bswhunter wrote:
One thing to note:
Did Cool even use hydras thoughout this series? If not, maybe thats where blizz needs to start balancing zerg


Yes, he did. And in that game he got buttraped due to building them, lol.

Did you actually see the game? I didn't see him got 'buttraped'. Care to elaborate on that, please?


He got buttraped in the straight up fights which is the ONLY time hydralisks were used. Lings, or lings/infestor were used to drop/fight drops.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
October 02 2010 12:12 GMT
#3450
Does EVERYONE have to qualify for Season 2 or do the top 4 or top 8 automatically get in?
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
October 02 2010 12:13 GMT
#3451
On October 02 2010 21:08 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 21:08 thopol wrote:
On October 02 2010 21:05 Lyw9475 wrote:
sc2 lim yo hwan=fruit dealer.
winning the major league with the least powerful race.
just impressive..impressive

Really? Terran was the least powerful bw race?

Also, everyone should shut the fuck up about balance in here.

I remember rage and passionate stupidity in LR threads before but never as many absolutely retarded posts as in here.

Back when Boxer was first getting started, T was widely considered the weaker race.

Lol, my comment about retarded posts is pretty funny then.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 12:14:15
October 02 2010 12:13 GMT
#3452
On October 02 2010 21:09 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 21:07 Spidinko wrote:
On October 02 2010 21:03 foxmeep wrote:
On October 02 2010 21:03 Bswhunter wrote:
One thing to note:
Did Cool even use hydras thoughout this series? If not, maybe thats where blizz needs to start balancing zerg


Yes, he did. And in that game he got buttraped due to building them, lol.

Did you actually see the game? I didn't see him got 'buttraped'. Care to elaborate on that, please?


Specifically the push at his gold expansion, yes he got raped due to having way too many hydras. Or hydras at all for that matter.


He got broken on that push because he over committed to dropping HopeTorture's main with a force that had no units that could shoot up. Certainly Hydras weren't the best choice, but please actually watch the games.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10862 Posts
October 02 2010 12:14 GMT
#3453
My new counter to Proxyreapers is obviously 15 Hatch...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51566 Posts
October 02 2010 12:14 GMT
#3454
cool had so much in potential until he unfortunately had to abruptly retire to take care of his family's fruit business.

so glad he's showing his skill with sc2.
Commentator
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
October 02 2010 12:14 GMT
#3455
On October 02 2010 21:12 Pudge_172 wrote:
Does EVERYONE have to qualify for Season 2 or do the top 4 or top 8 automatically get in?


I could be wrong (and probably am) but the first three GSLs are "qualifiers" in a sense, if you make it to the Ro64 (or 32?) you are considered a higher seed for future GSLs. Someone will come along and correct me though, as the internet works that way.
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
October 02 2010 12:14 GMT
#3456


End Montage.
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
October 02 2010 12:15 GMT
#3457
On October 02 2010 21:14 Velr wrote:
My new counter to Proxyreapers is obviously 15 Hatch...


Yeah no kidding what the hell man, that seemed like an auto loss then and there lol.
_vladimir_
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia530 Posts
October 02 2010 12:15 GMT
#3458
God what an amazing play by Cool, even biggest optimist couldnt expect that, he really played flawless, such a suberb macro, and defend when it was needed, he controled it all time, such a map awerness, incredible, really GG
MC:" 2nd game i all in, he drone he drone, me win."
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
October 02 2010 12:16 GMT
#3459
On October 02 2010 21:10 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 21:00 vyyye wrote:
Eveyrone just takes care of everyone in their family there, if the dad wins the lottery he won't use it all for himself, even if his children moved out. Same for the children.
This mentality (often viewed negatively in the west) might be one of the reasons why Korean culture is able to produce a strong and dedicated esports community, in which newer generations pick up the skills from previous ones and true masters are being formed in the end.

No, we just love starcraft.
Hi!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 02 2010 12:16 GMT
#3460
On October 02 2010 21:15 DreXxiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 21:14 Velr wrote:
My new counter to Proxyreapers is obviously 15 Hatch...


Yeah no kidding what the hell man, that seemed like an auto loss then and there lol.


ITR decided that killing a hatch first was too unfair for the zerg player.
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