TLO, as one of the finest members from Team Liquid, has been in Korea for quite a while now facing the best of the best in the GomTV GSL 2010 Season 1, so to keep his strategies and playstyle a secrecy to avoid feeding any intel to his opponents, not much has come out replaywise for us all to enjoy.
Thanx to SC2Casts.com Invitational he showed up last week playing a series of showmatches that i finally was able to get a hold of. So heres the 1st match from the finals wich will be followed today by the next matches of this series.
The matches from the semi-finals are also available so in case noone else works on them i'l gladly be bringing you those aswell.
LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (T) VS mTwDIMAGA (Z) G1
LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (T) VS mTwDIMAGA (Z) G2 Part 1
LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (T) VS mTwDIMAGA (Z) G2 Part 2
LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (T) VS mTwDIMAGA (Z) G3
LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (T) VS mTwDIMAGA (Z) G4 Part 1
LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (T) VS mTwDIMAGA (Z) G4 Part 2
Once again, thank you to SC2Casts.com for the replays provided, enjoy and stay tuned for following updates during today and tomorrow.
On September 18 2010 20:05 Ovi wrote: what a great game there on LT. thx for casting it.
yeah absolutely mindblowing game there on lt. much skill and strategical diversity from both players. at no point in the match was I able to tell who would win it.
On September 18 2010 20:05 Ovi wrote: what a great game there on LT. thx for casting it.
yeah absolutely mindblowing game there on lt. much skill and strategical diversity from both players. at no point in the match was I able to tell who would win it.
On September 18 2010 20:05 Ovi wrote: what a great game there on LT. thx for casting it.
yeah absolutely mindblowing game there on lt. much skill and strategical diversity from both players. at no point in the match was I able to tell who would win it.
where can I find the other games?
Im getting the second match edited / compressed to be uploaded today and will be adding the following matches until the finals are over
What should Dimaga have done in the lost temple game? Is one base the only option? I mean, one base against a player as good as TLO seems like a GG already...
On September 18 2010 21:39 AlphaOfUrOmega wrote: What should Dimaga have done in the lost temple game? Is one base the only option? I mean, one base against a player as good as TLO seems like a GG already...
Umm.... having like 4 spine crawlers at the edge can defend against that. I don't think anything else can
Can't believe dimaga came back after losing all the queens, the caster didn't look at the counter attack though maybe that did more damage than I thought
I know TLO is great, his decisions and game style are sick.
But when I watch these games, I just have one question - will patch fix ZvT or not?. It seems like anything terran will do is powerful against zerg. It really makes me sad that all TLO's efforts can't be seen through this enormous cloud of imbalance between zerg and terran.
The shenannigans TLO pulled on lost temple are pretty much old fashioned LT shenannigans (well, he used a thor instead of a tank, but whatever.) I'm curious if players had the ability to downvote maps?
He only wins the games where he either abuses imbalance (LT thor drop) cheeses (BBS on sow) or turtles till 200/200 and rolls out with 2/3 upgrades on his mech. I kind of expected more from him. If TvZ wasnt so retarded right now, im quite sure dimaga wouldve won (coming from a Terran)
On September 19 2010 07:49 sylverfyre wrote: The shenannigans TLO pulled on lost temple are pretty much old fashioned LT shenannigans (well, he used a thor instead of a tank, but whatever.) I'm curious if players had the ability to downvote maps?
Even if you do, what do you what to leave up instead of lost temple? Kulas? Delta? Xel naga?
The shenannigans TLO pulled on lost temple are pretty much old fashioned LT shenannigans (well, he used a thor instead of a tank, but whatever.) I'm curious if players had the ability to downvote maps?
I'd say TLO is probably the best Terran player when it comes to abusing imbalances. Which is definitely not a bad feature to have. Zergs are so easy to abuse for terrans and TLO just does it better than anyone else.
Now i got Worldit and HDStarcraft promoting their work on the thread i created to share the matches i shoutcasted with the community?
Wow am i that relevant that such big youtube channels require to spam here to get noticed? im honored lol...keep spamming out of desperation and next time consider taking your time to talk with the people that actually enjoy playing / watching the game...like i did.
Oh! and if any of you need any help on how to properly take care of your channels feel free to ask, i'll gladly help you guys.
Also thank you to SC2Casts.com for the tournament, their Admin contacted me and was kind enough to adress the necessity for recognition of their organization wich i gladly did and would do as many times as they need. Curious enough, i didnt got any spam "oh! i did it too come watch mine" from him.
Peace...out.
EDIT: btw, i expect now Worldit to spam HDStarcraft youtube channel with notes saying they already shoutcasted this matches before like they did on mine...gogo im waiting. Also i know from at least 2 other channels that already have this matches uploaded for a couple of days so i expect the same treatment for them aswell.
On September 19 2010 19:17 Escapist wrote: Now i got Worldit and HDStarcraft promoting their work on the thread i created to share the matches i shoutcasted with the community?
Wow am i that relevant that such big youtube channels require to spam here to get noticed? im honored lol...keep spamming out of desperation and next time consider taking your time to talk with the people that actually enjoy playing / watching the game...like i did.
Oh! and if any of you need any help on how to properly take care of your channels feel free to ask, i'll gladly help you guys.
Also thank you to SC2Casts.com for the tournament, their Admin contacted me and was kind enough to adress the necessity for recognition of their organization wich i gladly did and would do as many times as they need. Curious enough, i didnt got any spam "oh! i did it too come watch mine" from him.
Peace...out.
EDIT: btw, i expect now Worldit to spam HDStarcraft youtube channel with notes saying they already shoutcasted this matches before like they did on mine...gogo im waiting. Also i know from at least 2 other channels that already have this matches uploaded for a couple of days so i expect the same treatment for them aswell.
I just asked to mention the sponsor and the organizator nothing more. HD did it in every vod. U did it too so np to me now.
who spammed your channel? I wrote in a SINGLE vod to remember who organizaed and sponsored the whole stuff.
On September 19 2010 19:17 Escapist wrote: Now i got Worldit and HDStarcraft promoting their work on the thread i created to share the matches i shoutcasted with the community?
Wow am i that relevant that such big youtube channels require to spam here to get noticed? im honored lol...keep spamming out of desperation and next time consider taking your time to talk with the people that actually enjoy playing / watching the game...like i did.
Oh! and if any of you need any help on how to properly take care of your channels feel free to ask, i'll gladly help you guys.
Also thank you to SC2Casts.com for the tournament, their Admin contacted me and was kind enough to adress the necessity for recognition of their organization wich i gladly did and would do as many times as they need. Curious enough, i didnt got any spam "oh! i did it too come watch mine" from him.
Peace...out.
EDIT: btw, i expect now Worldit to spam HDStarcraft youtube channel with notes saying they already shoutcasted this matches before like they did on mine...gogo im waiting. Also i know from at least 2 other channels that already have this matches uploaded for a couple of days so i expect the same treatment for them aswell.
Umm.. ok? None of us shoutcasters create new topics on the forums about the games we casted from other tournaments. When I casted the showmatch between HuK and Morrow, i just posted in the thread that already existed, stating I casted the games since the stream wasn't working great.
scworldit. get it right.
If every shoutcaster posted new threads on the forums of every showmatch/tournament game/random game, these forums would be silly.
None of the people that posted that the games were already casted by me for scworldit, have any affiliation with scworldit, besides Toss. So it wasn't "oh! i did it too come watch mine". it was "oh these games and the rest of the tournament are already casted and posted on SC2casts.com, which is also the sponsor.
@ tosS.ita i got several PM's and posts on the videos from multiple youtube accounts. I dont recognize any of the names on those accounts btw. And yes i gladly mention any of the organizers, sponsors, supporters on any of my videos aslong as i get a request for it...wich i did directly by the sc2casts Admin, wich was kind enough to do it.
I got zero requests from anyone else and instead i got post replies here and on youtube. Feel free to do it as you please and i dont oppose to that obviously, but i can assure you all that i would gladly mention any of you on the videos if the approach would had been the same that the sc2casts Admin had...think about that.
@ Schickysc "scworldit" corrected, thank you. Keep in mind that the matches object of this thread are matches that the community would like to watch and not considered "every showmatch/tournament game/random game" based on the players involved and on the fact that TLO has been playing the GSL for quite a while now so no replays or shoutcasts from him for about a month. Ignoring those facts doesnt take the interest that the community might have on this particular matches over other "every showmatch/tournament game/random game". So there is a reason behind it.
Take a look at this thread and check how many times i have references to people stating "hey this matches are over here" and tell me if it is required to keep insisting on it, specially on a thread created by another person (me). The fact they're not affiliated doesnt make them blind and the fact that you're the one replying shows interest on your behalf wich is perfectly understandable.
As for the organization of the matches, i think i refered to it on every video and also left at least 1 link to www.sc2casts.com for people to go check it out. So i dont think i missed anything there and actually got contacted by the sc2casts Admin who politely asked for a proper referral on my videos...wich i did. I would even placed a banner with all the references ingame if required and requested (wich i wasnt) so i dont think i went the wrong way with my posture towards this issue.
I appreciate the work from whoever is envolved on providing us this matches, not so much the fact that there was not much information about it and the second i make it so a lot of people recalled it might be a good idea to say something about it. If im not mistaken this matches occured about 1 week ago and the replays got released about 2 days ago so i think you all had plenty of time to get it up and running.
Last but not least, it is me standing here taking my time to reply for these matches and getting your comments, but keep in mind that the second the replays were released there was several others doing the exact same thing as i did.
Best of luck for your future projects and hope to hear from you soon.
On September 19 2010 20:50 Escapist wrote: @ tosS.ita i got several PM's and posts on the videos from multiple youtube accounts. I dont recognize any of the names on those accounts btw. And yes i gladly mention any of the organizers, sponsors, supporters on any of my videos aslong as i get a request for it...wich i did directly by the sc2casts Admin, wich was kind enough to do it.
I can't control community reaction, it's not my fault if ppl PMed you on youtube.. or do u think I registrered 10-20 times on youtube for what? LOL
this is my post on the first vod u commented and U did not mention nobody
"pls next time remember to link the sponsor and the organizator. thx"
On September 19 2010 20:50 Escapist wrote: @ tosS.ita i got several PM's and posts on the videos from multiple youtube accounts. I dont recognize any of the names on those accounts btw. And yes i gladly mention any of the organizers, sponsors, supporters on any of my videos aslong as i get a request for it...wich i did directly by the sc2casts Admin, wich was kind enough to do it.
I can't control community reaction, it's not my fault if ppl PMed you on youtube.. or do u think I registrered 10-20 times on youtube for what? LOL
I never said that if i recall, and was commenting on it because it was what i had to deal with. Never thought you created 20 accounts or decided to spam anything or that it was your fault. I agree that the community reaction cant be controled.
I think that i received video responses with the exactly same match? i dont recall receiving any PM asking to add references for those videos if im not mistaken...did you sent any? what i mean is that i would gladly had mentioned all of your work on my videos if i was asked for it...wich i wasnt. The only person i recall asking for that was the Admin from sc2casts.com.
Obviously you're not forced to do that and you can decide as you please, and im entitled to do the same, wich i did and referred whoever took their time to ask for it...did you asked for it? if so i stand corrected and i'll gladly fix that on a future video so please confirm it.
Did anyone else rage quit in game 2 when TLO attacked and a huge counter from Dimaga happened on the minimap and the commentator was completely oblivious to it?
I saw him do this build against Lalush on xel naga caverns (rep is on sc2rep.com somewhere). In that game lalush did not get a spire, so TLO just horded vikings that were useless.
Fun times.
It's a lulzy build but not a very effective one imo. I much prefer his game vs lalush on scrap station (same series as the above I think) where he just rushed a cattlebruiser.
^^ Yeah for sure. Most interesting game TLO goes for a goofy build thats still quite strong. It's nuts how potent every Terran unit is at everything in that match.
On September 20 2010 blacktoss wrote: Did anyone else rage quit in game 2 when TLO attacked and a huge counter from Dimaga happened on the minimap and the commentator was completely oblivious to it?
So frustrating.
I went back and checked the replay file. The "huge counter" was mass lings trying to enter the main base and resulted in 5 hellions / 1 Barracks and 3 empty Bunkers destroyed outside of main base and 5 SCV's and 1 Factory destroyed inside the main base.
Then DIMAGA had to run back because there were 2 battlecruisers above the lings and his bases were being destroyed. So the "huge counter" was actually a big red blob in the minimap that resulted in nothing influencial for the match, since nothing was getting out of that base except for battlecruisers, while i was trying to follow DIMAGAS base destruction.
Sorry if i couldnt pick it up but at that time i decided to stay with the base destruction and it appears i didnt loose much of the alleged "huge counter"
Then DIMAGA had to run back because there were 2 battlecruisers above the lings and his bases were being destroyed. So the "huge counter" was actually a big red blob in the minimap that resulted in nothing influencial for the match, since nothing was getting out of that base except for battlecruisers, while i was trying to follow DIMAGAS base destruction.
Sorry if i couldnt pick it up but at that time i decided to stay with the base destruction and it appears i Last edit: 2010-09-20 03:42:11 didnt loose much of the alleged "huge counter"
Ok, maybe it wasn't huge. But it looked huge on the minimap. And there was no way for anyone watching to know, it is very frustrating because you wonder "What just happened there???" and you never get to know.
Then DIMAGA had to run back because there were 2 battlecruisers above the lings and his bases were being destroyed. So the "huge counter" was actually a big red blob in the minimap that resulted in nothing influencial for the match, since nothing was getting out of that base except for battlecruisers, while i was trying to follow DIMAGAS base destruction.
Sorry if i couldnt pick it up but at that time i decided to stay with the base destruction and it appears i Last edit: 2010-09-20 03:42:11 didnt loose much of the alleged "huge counter"
Ok, maybe it wasn't huge. But it looked huge on the minimap. And there was no way for anyone watching to know, it is very frustrating because you wonder "What just happened there???" and you never get to know.
I clearly agree with you on that. And though i can only say that you are right and i should be able to grasp every piece of action going on, the truth is that on that particular situation i decided to stay with the battlecruisers roaming around DIMAGAS bases and i missed it...fortunately it wasnt the biggest event ever happening on that match (not even close) but it could be based on the size of the red blob on the minimap.
Another thing i would like to mention is that i very rarely repeat my shoutcasts and i never rewind (because i think the viewer can rewind as many times as they want so its boring). So i load the replay and shoot the shoutcast trying to be as natural as possible so it doesnt sound fake in anyway. One of the prices to pay for doing that is that if you miss something, you might miss something important. So keep that in consideration and i assure you i'll be focusing more for future shoutcasts so i can improve on that subject.
I'll be uploading today game 4 so hopefully that one will be according to the highest standarts so it can please every fan of SC2.
EPT
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(dimaga redefines the ZvT flowchart)
