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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
September 15 2010 10:49 GMT
#1121
On September 15 2010 19:48 Misanthrope wrote:
what's really funny is that when foreigners find themselves incapable of succeeding in korean tournaments, sc2 will die incredibly fast. unless of course white people start making tournaments worthwhile of course, but thats unlikelky to happen.


Not funny and baseless.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
September 15 2010 10:49 GMT
#1122
Idra and TLO are on different teams and Idra helped TLO prepare for his last match. Same exact thing. it's not bias, it's called competition.
I deadlift for Aiur
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
September 15 2010 10:49 GMT
#1123
On September 15 2010 19:45 FaCE_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2010 19:44 shrinkmaster wrote:
On September 15 2010 19:42 Promises wrote:
Ok... so what exactly does a PointDD do?


Liquipedia?


Those TvT games were actually less bad than i imagined them to be. Some interesting stuff happening.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Main_Page


I happen to know liquipedia, thanks. My question mark should indicate that FaCE_1 maybe wants to consult liquipedia instead of asking this questions on the forum.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
September 15 2010 10:49 GMT
#1124
Exact explanation of why idra won / lost
Game 1 : Toss followed normal strat and idra killed him.
Game 2 : Idra thought that since game 1 went as expected that game 2 would go as expected. I have no doubt that the korean that gave away the protoss's ID also told the protoss that Idra would be looking at them. Idra instead of playing his normal Macro + Response game decided to just macro and almost 100% forgot about scouting. He even ran a ling up top and only saw 1 zealot and a sentry but didn't find anything curious about that.
Game 3 : Idra definitly played better for most of it, I don't even think the expansion crippled him. In the end he pushed too hard instead of regrouping. Colossi count was LOW towards the end and he could have pushed the top expo done some damage and backed off. The basic units would have won him the game even still. Though, I'm not denying that the extra base did play a good role.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 15 2010 10:50 GMT
#1125
alright who gave artosis and tasteless amphetamines?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
September 15 2010 10:50 GMT
#1126
Ah, bit of a shame to come home to (after a long day's work), the news that Idra has been eliminated.



Ah well mate, better luck next time.

All down to TLO now eh.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
klauz619
Profile Joined July 2010
453 Posts
September 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#1127
The commentators jeering on the korean and praising idra every second of the game and literally saying "yeah were biased and unprofessional, we want idra to win" and idra watching the protoss' build orders is fine.

But if the korean guy shares strats then its obviously cheating.

This is why foreigners will never win or be really accepted in korean e-sports.
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
September 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#1128
On September 15 2010 19:50 Telcontar wrote:
alright who gave artosis and tasteless amphetamines?


It's residual Adrenaline/rage from Idra's game
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#1129
this gsl is a perfect example of metagaming
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 10:51:39
September 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#1130
Schedule rearrangement, 4th game coming now. LegalMind vs. Tankboy.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 10:52:19
September 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#1131
On September 15 2010 19:46 dabom88 wrote:

They wanted him out because the tournament is in Korea and they're Koreans and they want a Korean to win the tournament. It's national pride, common in all sports. The home team wants a member of the home city/country to win. Why is this so hard to understand?


Disagreeing is not the same as not understanding. If it was a national pride issue, then why aren't we hearing about them doing the same to get Artosis, TorcH, and TLO knocked out? Why only Idra? He is in no way the only foreigner capable of competing in this tournament.

Just because he's foreign, doesn't mean it's anti-foreign to want him out. And as other have said, the whole thing may well have been entirely overblown anyway, with the only named player helping Lotze being his Prime teammate.

There's currently no reason to believe that Idra was the victim of any anti-foreigner 'conspiracy'.
You Got The Touch
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
September 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#1132
Can JTJ beat Maka? Let's hope at least one of the Z today advances to the Ro16.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
September 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#1133
Maka's up, should be a good match.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
bananafever
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria348 Posts
September 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#1134
man this z has to play maka now.. if he looses there are just 2 left of which 3 are not nearly top level
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
September 15 2010 10:52 GMT
#1135
Legalmind VS tankboy coming up next.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 10:54:04
September 15 2010 10:52 GMT
#1136
On September 15 2010 19:51 klauz619 wrote:
The commentators jeering on the korean and praising idra every second of the game and literally saying "yeah were biased and unprofessional, we want idra to win" and idra watching the protoss' build orders is fine.

But if the korean guy shares strats then its obviously cheating.

This is why foreigners will never win or be really accepted in korean e-sports.


No one said this.

Not to mention, Genius JUST SAID he scouted August's build order on lost temple when he was streaming and Artosis was just as fine with it.

I really hate posters like this. Read and pay attention.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
September 15 2010 10:52 GMT
#1137
On September 15 2010 19:47 -Kato- wrote:
What does teaming up have to do with anything? If everyone in the world teamed up against Flash he would still be destroying left and right. You may get an idea of what he's gonna do or what you can do against him, but he'll destroy you and your family.


not only is this 100% accurate, but this made me spit out my drink as well as register just to praise this post
GoonFFS
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark323 Posts
September 15 2010 10:52 GMT
#1138
easy rapin
http://konvictgaming.com/ -> @KrugerFFS
cyprin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1105 Posts
September 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#1139
why did match 3 get delayed?
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
September 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#1140
Come on LegalMind. Even though I play terran, I'd love to see their numbers get whittled down a bit. Nothing but TvT games in the later stages would get boring.

LegalFighting!
You Got The Touch
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