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On September 15 2010 19:17 Fa1nT wrote:
How can protoss go for an early 4 gate push (which probably could have won outright), run back to base and be in a good position still?
so many questions..
He put down an expansion before he even put down 2nd 3rd and 4th gateways.. I use a build similar to it. Its not all-in at all.. I use it to pressure the zerg while I can tech safely forcing him to make units to defend while I am making probes and teching.. If the zerg isnt prepared he dies.. if he is you still force him to not make anymore drones..
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Didn't Day[9] or Nony make some post about not basing your play of the metagame? This is what they were talking about. Your build has to account for everything, that mostly means good scouting and reactions to "nonstandard" play.
edit: actually I think it was Chill
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On September 15 2010 19:19 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 19:12 StreetHeat wrote:
Didnt the same thing happen to Torch? His opponent read on his twitter that he was studying his build orders so he switched them up to throw him off. I think Battle.net 2.0 is just gonna require all tourney players to buy a 2nd account to smurf on. Can't these players just simply not base their strats on the other players profile? Seems a dumb thing to do if they know you are looking at their profile.
It's only "dumb" if the other player knows you are doing it. Torch advertised this on twitter, which was foolish in retrospect, and Idra somehow let it out.
If you just keep these things to yourself then they can't use it against you since if they aren't sure if you are watching, they can end up psyching themselves out.
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TvT is pretty lame on this map. There's hardly any room for mobility, which is what makes TvT fun....
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On September 15 2010 19:10 Sqq wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 19:09 Mellotron wrote:On September 15 2010 19:07 Sqq wrote:On September 15 2010 19:06 Mellotron wrote:
Man, people saying idra played badly etc are crazy. Idra is the shit and when all the Koreans are allegedly teaming up to make sure you dont win the tournament you are doing something right.
Either way win or lose this is the kind of stuff that makes memories and gets people psyched. excuse me, how are they teaming up ? Stated during the pregame. Im watching in class at school, so I have to watch without sound, mind explaining ?
He was talking about how Lotze consulted with CheckPrime and a few other gosu Koreans about the whole "check BNet battle orders" thing that has started recently over there. Maybe that was it?
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People keep talking about the 3rd game, but a more thorough scout on the main would have also made the 2nd game very winnable.
Idra's inability to scout properly cost him both games 2 and 3.
Idra is obviously one of the best players in the world and I'm not saying that I could have done better but he has nobody to blame but himself. Nothing in SC2 is ever really hidden moreso things "aren't scouted."
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On September 15 2010 19:21 Bear4188 wrote:
Didn't Day[9] or Nony make some post about not basing your play of the metagame? This is what they were talking about. Your build has to account for everything, that mostly means good scouting and reactions to "nonstandard" play.
edit: actually I think it was Chill
I've heard Nony say this also, and I think it's a great piece of advice
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Worst time to lose a stream ever, lost it half way through Idra's losing round and it only just came back.
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I'm still sad about idra... reflection time  .
jesus I can't even think how IdrA would feel...
Honestly they should speed up hydras offcreep... they are just ridiculously slow out of creep and vs toss it makes no sense since they have obs almost by default hehe.
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On September 15 2010 19:21 drag00n wrote:
TvT = alla bout tank positioning
its so damn intense though...one mistake is GG
I dont know if intense is the right word, maybe sleep inducing?
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On September 15 2010 19:21 Bear4188 wrote:
Didn't Day[9] or Nony make some post about not basing your play of the metagame? This is what they were talking about. Your build has to account for everything, that mostly means good scouting and reactions to "nonstandard" play.
edit: actually I think it was Chill
It was NonY actually.
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On September 15 2010 19:21 drag00n wrote:
TvT = alla bout tank positioning
its so damn intense though...one mistake is GG
imho as intense as the IdrA v Lotze series was, this T v T is a snooze fest in regards to positioning. Not a lot of action... nice to see a longer game though =P
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On September 15 2010 19:20 Burn2Memory wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 19:18 Plexa wrote:On September 15 2010 19:17 illumination wrote:On September 15 2010 19:08 hazz wrote:On September 15 2010 18:57 KiWiKaKi wrote:
ur pro or ur idra , thats life
User was warned for this post its funny you say this, considering you lost to far seer fast expand on lost temple cuz grubby felt like doing some shit tactic vs a scrub since you're too clueless to scout in wc3  bad in sc2 as well as wc3 User was temp banned for this post. What are the rules for bm on this website? cuz KiWi bms idra but gets warmed but some guy bms kiwi and he gets banned? Anyyways on topic man idra lost cuz zerg is so fragile good moevs my lotze tho The rules are don't be stupid. I dont think this changes the fact that one guy got warned and another got banned and they both did the same thing
As he said, why would you start flaming a post that already has a warning? Also there was an obvious difference in level of flame in the two post, KiWi's was more of a very snide remark while the followup flame was straight up an attack in person.
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Yay Turtle vs Turtle action.
X.X
I'm so glad that Tanks are getting nerfed.
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In a way, I kind of miss the mass dropship play you used to see in SC1 TvT. Really static game so far and they can't really run forwards because Marauders and Siege Tanks just do so much damage.
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On September 15 2010 19:19 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 19:12 StreetHeat wrote:
Didnt the same thing happen to Torch? His opponent read on his twitter that he was studying his build orders so he switched them up to throw him off. I think Battle.net 2.0 is just gonna require all tourney players to buy a 2nd account to smurf on. Can't these players just simply not base their strats on the other players profile? Seems a dumb thing to do if they know you are looking at their profile.
Everyone is looking at everyone's profile if they know about it. It's good to check what the players tendencies are but to rely heavily on match list is just begging for trouble.
Sucks Idra lost, now infected TLO is foreigners only hope.
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LiveForever has this in the bag unless he makes a major mistake.
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On September 15 2010 19:12 Mellotron wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 19:10 Sqq wrote:On September 15 2010 19:09 Mellotron wrote:On September 15 2010 19:07 Sqq wrote:On September 15 2010 19:06 Mellotron wrote:
Man, people saying idra played badly etc are crazy. Idra is the shit and when all the Koreans are allegedly teaming up to make sure you dont win the tournament you are doing something right.
Either way win or lose this is the kind of stuff that makes memories and gets people psyched. excuse me, how are they teaming up ? Stated during the pregame. Im watching in class at school, so I have to watch without sound, mind explaining ? Dont remember the exact quote. They didnt want a non korean to win the tournament. Thats all i recall.
Oh yeah, that was all about Idra getting BM a lot of the time and the Koreans not taking it well and/or wanting to force him out early, IIRC.
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