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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 21 2010 16:36 GMT
#4321
On August 22 2010 01:35 Headshot wrote:
C'mon, IdrA. A TvT finals isn't even worth watching.

that's right idra, save me some time and lose, i spent way too much watching IEM stream.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
August 21 2010 16:36 GMT
#4322
Guess it'll be the same tactic by Tarson again.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
August 21 2010 16:36 GMT
#4323
On August 22 2010 01:33 Integra wrote:
That's it I'm not watching this shit anymore. Hope Terran enjoys it's easy wins.



If you get cloaked units you can win if your opponent doesn't have detection. How is this terran op. WE've seen mutas harassing all day killing multiple scvs and tanks, depots any unprotected buildings but when a terran gets banshees he is OP?
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 21 2010 16:36 GMT
#4324
On August 22 2010 01:36 Andr3 wrote:
Does anyone else thinks dApollo looks like Ron from Harry Potter? ._.

That's MorroW you're thinking of.
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
August 21 2010 16:36 GMT
#4325
On August 22 2010 01:36 ibogdandx wrote:
if IdrA looses this will be major QQ : >

Isnt it Bo5?
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
August 21 2010 16:36 GMT
#4326
Idra is confident
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Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 21 2010 16:36 GMT
#4327
it's not the banshee that's OP, it's the fact that terran with that build can be doing about a billion different things, all of which require very different counters.
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 16:37:53
August 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#4328
Idra screwed over his macro early on, with his extractors, which is probably why his speedlings were so delayed in the first place. Day9 mentioned this as well, how his workers were idle at the extractor, and then only one mining, and then 4 mining.

He also saw the banshee and didn't have an overseer for AGES. He was either gas starved because of early macro issues or because he made hydras, but either way he messed up by not getting an overseer with 2 spine crawlers and 2 (possibly 3 queens)+lings for defense. And no Cede, those hydras would have smashed all offense Tarson could have put up early on assuming he made one overseer.
Fojji
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom217 Posts
August 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#4329
Any vods of the TLO vs NaDa showmatch? Or even replays for that matter....
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#4330
Looks like another standard play for Tarson, a quick Factory here. Gas steal by IdrA
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Hrafn
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria42 Posts
August 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#4331
MorroW vs Tarson was actually pretty cool.
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
August 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#4332
As usual Terran winning games in 10 minutes is standard while Zerg needs to work for their wins.

And yeah IdrA can do it on Blistering because of the rocks and because Tarson went for cheese, doesn't change anything, T is easymode.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 16:38:48
August 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#4333
On August 22 2010 01:34 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 01:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Did IdrA forget ling speed or something? It seemed way too late.


He got lair first cause he saw no reapers.

I'm not sure that's something he'd normally do, hellions are annoying if you don't have speed as well.

On August 22 2010 01:37 shlomo wrote:
As usual Terran winning games in 10 minutes is standard while Zerg needs to work for their wins.

And yeah IdrA can do it on Blistering because of the rocks and because Tarson went for cheese, doesn't change anything, T is easymode.

Tarson screwed up game 1 so he lost quickly.
IdrA scerwed up game 2 so he lost quickly.

If you wanna use a game as evidence of imba, pick a better one plz (ie morrow vs dimaga game 4 or something).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#4334
tarson should really adjust his build in order to be able to take the 2nd gas earlier
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
mF.jEIN
Profile Joined August 2010
78 Posts
August 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#4335
On August 22 2010 01:35 Headshot wrote:
C'mon, IdrA. A TvT finals isn't even worth watching.

You Sir, have not seen TLO vs. Nada showmatch.
ithree
Profile Joined January 2010
443 Posts
August 21 2010 16:38 GMT
#4336
On August 22 2010 01:35 AyJay wrote:
dApollo: "yeah, definetly"

STOP SAYING THAT OVER AND OVER

thx.


Deferring to the superior ? Sacrilege ! He should complain and contradict more !

but your right about commentators getting 'ticks' or 'go to' phrases, hard to over come when your filling air though.
MagnusHyperion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States288 Posts
August 21 2010 16:38 GMT
#4337
so i think what happened in game 2 is:
a) slower than normal speed boost for lings
b) early push by Tarson is effective against normal speed lings resulting in 2 queen kills and 1 spine crawler
c) Idra goes lair at nat instead of simultaneously building 2 queens
d) well timed banshee push exploits Idra's low queen count
e) Idra attempts to get AA by going hydra and forgoes overseer
d) Tarson gets cloak and times his attack very well

intense game built on many layers of an early disadvantage for Idra
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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 21 2010 16:38 GMT
#4338
Marine + Helion push comming, Ling speed nearly finished.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
August 21 2010 16:38 GMT
#4339
On August 22 2010 01:37 mF.jEIN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 01:35 Headshot wrote:
C'mon, IdrA. A TvT finals isn't even worth watching.

You Sir, have not seen TLO vs. Nada showmatch.

Tarson vs Morrow is sooooooo far from TLO vs Nada
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 21 2010 16:38 GMT
#4340
Tarson going for reactor hellions. Seems he's doing the same thing, poke in with marines+hellions and switch to banshees, this time IdrA has speed though.
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