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Unfurl
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States272 Posts
July 21 2010 04:05 GMT
#1321
idra vs TLO is going to be so epic ^^
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 21 2010 04:06 GMT
#1322
On July 21 2010 13:05 Newguy wrote:
Too bad Sen didn't get invited, then we'd see a zerg who actually changes up his play-style in his games. The only zergs in this are idra and dimaga. In idra's 5 games, hes played standard all 5 times; in dimaga's 5 games, hes cheesed all 5 times.

Idra vs Tester on LT was not standard.
reza
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada213 Posts
July 21 2010 04:07 GMT
#1323
On July 21 2010 13:05 Newguy wrote:
Too bad Sen didn't get invited, then we'd see a zerg who actually changes up his play-style in his games. The only zergs in this are idra and dimaga. In idra's 5 games, hes played standard all 5 times; in dimaga's 5 games, hes cheesed all 5 times.


I don't know why but I found this funny
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 05:06:04
July 21 2010 04:08 GMT
#1324
Summary of Day 1 - 3
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Day 1: Terran, Day 2: Protoss, Day 3: Zerg

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If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
sas01
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada303 Posts
July 21 2010 04:09 GMT
#1325
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Man Dimaga plays very aggressive!! saw his games vs tester with all those lings all-in and now with his games vs white-ra... Luckily it worked this time
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 04:10:07
July 21 2010 04:09 GMT
#1326
On July 21 2010 12:58 dabom88 wrote:
Anyway, current standings:

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Group A:
1. White-rA 1-1 (2-0, 1-2. 3 Wins, 2 Losses total)
2. IntoTheRainbow 1-0 (2-0. 2 Wins, 0 Losses total)
3. Dimaga 1-1 (0-2, 2-1. 2 Wins, 3 Losses total)
4. QXC 0-1 (0-2. 0 Wins, 2 Losses total)

Group B:
1. Tester 1-0 (2-0. 2 Wins, 0 Losses total)
2. TheLittleOne 1-0 (2-1. 2 Wins, 1 Loss total)
3. Idra 1-1 (0-2, 2-1. 2 Wins, 3 Losses total)
4. Huk 0-2 (1-2, 1-2. 2 Wins, 4 Losses total)

Huk is almost certainly eliminated now unless a miracle happens. Not quite sure how the math would work but I don't see any way he can come back.


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If Huk beats Tester, tlo beats tester, and tlo beats Idra, then it would be a three way tie between tester idra and huk, allowing huk a way back in. Basically, Huk has to win one game to be in the running. Then, TLO, who is the only person who hasn't lost a game yet (after huk's theoretical win against tester), must win all his games to make the bottom three players even.

TLO beating tester and idra is feasible, although Huk beating tester might be unlikely. Either way it could happen.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
July 21 2010 04:12 GMT
#1327
On July 21 2010 13:05 Newguy wrote:
Too bad Sen didn't get invited, then we'd see a zerg who actually changes up his play-style in his games. The only zergs in this are idra and dimaga. In idra's 5 games, hes played standard all 5 times; in dimaga's 5 games, hes cheesed all 5 times.


Whhattt lol? Dimaga is a player who has many playstyles. He's fearless with his bos. But yeah, I would've loved to see Sen and Cool in the tourny. That would've made an epic tournament into a legendary one.
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
July 21 2010 04:12 GMT
#1328
On July 21 2010 13:06 Jyvblamo wrote:
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On July 21 2010 13:05 Newguy wrote:
Too bad Sen didn't get invited, then we'd see a zerg who actually changes up his play-style in his games. The only zergs in this are idra and dimaga. In idra's 5 games, hes played standard all 5 times; in dimaga's 5 games, hes cheesed all 5 times.

Idra vs Tester on LT was not standard.

Whoops I stand corrected. However, this game wasn't standard because of Tester's strategy, not because of any willingness on Idra's part to venture from his comfort zone.
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automocc
Profile Joined April 2010
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 04:22:55
July 21 2010 04:18 GMT
#1329
On July 21 2010 13:05 Newguy wrote:
Too bad Sen didn't get invited, then we'd see a zerg who actually changes up his play-style in his games. The only zergs in this are idra and dimaga. In idra's 5 games, hes played standard all 5 times; in dimaga's 5 games, hes cheesed all 5 times.


How did Dimaga cheese all 5 times? In the match tonight vs WhiteRa he put down his pool at 13/14 every game. His 1 base baneling play is a direct response to WhiteRa 2 gate rushing/wall off each game. Protoss love to say "zerg like to fast expand and should be punished" but when it's a response to that it becomes cheese?

In anycase I enjoyed the games, and game two WhiteRa responded very well.. I really think it was the first all air attack I've seen in SC2.

I personally enjoyed watching IdrA excellent use and positioning of his Ultras! GG

Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 21 2010 04:20 GMT
#1330
I just hope Dimaga plays Tester. Tester loves 2-gate and forge-expand. We can then see how he deals with Dimaga's banelings.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
July 21 2010 04:26 GMT
#1331
On July 21 2010 13:08 figq wrote:
Summary of Day 1 - 3
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Day 1: Terran, Day 2: Protoss, Day 3: Zerg

[image loading] [image loading]


(T)TheStC and (P)IntoTheRainBOw aren't the same player.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 04:38:23
July 21 2010 04:28 GMT
#1332
On July 21 2010 13:18 automocc wrote:
In anycase I enjoyed the games, and game two WhiteRa responded very well.. I really think it was the first all air attack I've seen in SC2.


Then you should watch this:


On July 21 2010 13:20 Azarkon wrote:
I just hope Dimaga plays Tester. Tester loves 2-gate and forge-expand. We can then see how he deals with Dimaga's banelings.


Probably gonna deal with it via ForceFields. Which I didn't see WR make much use of vs. Dimaga.

But I doubt they'll meet up. They're in different groups, and I'm almost certainly expecting White-rA and IntotheRainbow to top their group.

I'm expecting Tester to definitely be one of the Top 2 in Group B. Now, with Huk at 2 losses, I think it's a toss-up between Idra and TLO. Before his seeing showmatches against White-rA and his match against Huk, I might have said Idra most certainly would have won vs. TLO, but now I'm not so certain. Those were both TvP matches though. I haven't seen any Phase 2 TLO TvZ.

But regardless, I'm rooting for TLO all the way. Ultimate Babyface vs. Ultimate Heel.
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
July 21 2010 04:31 GMT
#1333
On July 21 2010 13:18 automocc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 13:05 Newguy wrote:
Too bad Sen didn't get invited, then we'd see a zerg who actually changes up his play-style in his games. The only zergs in this are idra and dimaga. In idra's 5 games, hes played standard all 5 times; in dimaga's 5 games, hes cheesed all 5 times.


How did Dimaga cheese all 5 times? In the match tonight vs WhiteRa he put down his pool at 13/14 every game. His 1 base baneling play is a direct response to WhiteRa 2 gate rushing/wall off each game. Protoss love to say "zerg like to fast expand and should be punished" but when it's a response to that it becomes cheese?

In anycase I enjoyed the games, and game two WhiteRa responded very well.. I really think it was the first all air attack I've seen in SC2.

I personally enjoyed watching IdrA excellent use and positioning of his Ultras! GG


Dimaga's 'response' seems pretty luck based to me, its success is based on how well his opponent walls off. And Dimaga does like to cheese, I don't think anyone can deny that, his games against intotherainbow showed zero-responsiveness to his opponent's play-style.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 05:52:54
July 21 2010 04:38 GMT
#1334
On July 21 2010 13:26 cuppatea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 13:08 figq wrote:
Summary of Day 1 - 3
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1: Terran, Day 2: Protoss, Day 3: Zerg

[image loading] [image loading]


(T)TheStC and (P)IntoTheRainBOw aren't the same player.
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ITR plays the tournament from TheStC's account (and he plays SC2 as Terran). If only I knew his real Phase 2 account. Same goes for Tester, I'm not sure oGssSKS is his real Phase 2 account either, I can only see that on battle.net this account played as Protoss too.
The confusion originated from the retrieval of this data, based (partially) on the accounts they use in the tourney:
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Phase 2 ladder data, retrieved from http://sc2.vacau.com/ and http://starcraftrankings.com/:
[image loading]
edit: nvm, fixed. Apparently people thought IntoTheRainbow was playing in Garimto's event using TheStC's account, and that's where this came from.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 04:42:54
July 21 2010 04:40 GMT
#1335
On July 21 2010 13:18 automocc wrote:
How did Dimaga cheese all 5 times? In the match tonight vs WhiteRa he put down his pool at 13/14 every game. His 1 base baneling play is a direct response to WhiteRa 2 gate rushing/wall off each game. Protoss love to say "zerg like to fast expand and should be punished" but when it's a response to that it becomes cheese?

In anycase I enjoyed the games, and game two WhiteRa responded very well.. I really think it was the first all air attack I've seen in SC2.

I personally enjoyed watching IdrA excellent use and positioning of his Ultras! GG


I think Dimaga had the correct response to white-ras build in all 3 games. That 2 gate FE is so so brutal for zergs, since it denies an early expo while P gets one up themselves. Being behind economically to a P is a horrible spot to be in. Their 2 base mass warpgate or colossus push is going to come before you can have an army to match it. That's why you see the zerg pros(Idra included) trying to go all-in to bust the front before they can get their econ advantage going.

You have a better chance of winning by going all in and busting the front than you do trying to catch up economically and have an army out that matches theirs by the time the push comes.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
evoli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States333 Posts
July 21 2010 04:44 GMT
#1336
On July 21 2010 11:58 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Also, I hope one day soon people will stop crying about saying gg. There are plenty of reasons to think Idra is bm and not saying gg is about the lowest one on the list.


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cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 05:07:08
July 21 2010 05:06 GMT
#1337
On July 21 2010 13:38 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 13:26 cuppatea wrote:
On July 21 2010 13:08 figq wrote:
Summary of Day 1 - 3
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1: Terran, Day 2: Protoss, Day 3: Zerg

[image loading] [image loading]


(T)TheStC and (P)IntoTheRainBOw aren't the same player.
ITR plays the tournament from TheStC's account (and he plays SC2 as Terran). If only I knew his real Phase 2 account. Same goes for Tester, I'm not sure oGssSKS is his real Phase 2 account either, I can only see that on battle.net this account played as Protoss too.


ITR used Tester's account against Dimaga. I don't know what their real Asian ladder accounts are but having TheStC's name (who is a completely different player who has nothing to do with this tournament) in your table only creates confusion imo.
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
July 21 2010 05:07 GMT
#1338
I think this tourney is going EPIC !
Really, only 3 days and I've seen all sorts of great play. I hope we're in for even better entertainment in what's to come.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 21 2010 05:20 GMT
#1339
Day9 might i make a suggestion for your cast schedule for the rest of the group matches?
instead of having Tester vs Huk & Whitera vs IntoTheRainbow tomorrow, you should have Tester vs TLO and qxc vs IntoTheRainbow. i say this because having huk and whitera again might spoil their final group standings and take the drama out of the groups.

also you should consider casting both final matches from each group on one day instead of splitting them up over two. this would build up tension and drama as each group would be resolved then and there.
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Crixus
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada110 Posts
July 21 2010 05:23 GMT
#1340
what happens if there is a tie between 3 players for round robin tournament style?

for instance if QXC manages to beat Dimaga we'll have

Dimaga 1-2
QXC 1-2
WhiteRa 1-2
Into 3-0
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