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On June 16 2010 08:24 Diggity wrote:Show nested quote +as far as online qualifiers when will they be? becuz if buy tickets earlier there obviously cheaper; but then if i lose in online qualifier i will disappoint. Online qualifiers will be fairly close to release by necessity. If you buy tickets and dont qualify we can still set up show matches on stage for you among other things HuK. Depending in the numbers I might be able to run a double elimination tournament as well. I definitely don't plan on running a single elimination qualifier so you should be safe. Show nested quote +I think a first to two preliminary round would be better at the lan place in order to get to the final 16 than an online bracket. It would make it fair and a much better experience for the unknown players. I agree it would be ideal to have the entire event live, but I am far more concerned about time constraints. The booth is a single day rental only and it is expensive for the owners. Additionally I want to be done early so we definitely meet the clock time for any spectators that want to show up for the korean booth-live commentary solely.
Hey Diggity..I know you guys are working on this very hard and all...but I have a few questions...Doesnt the OP say that he is building the booths?
On June 14 2010 13:10 Diggity wrote:
First of all Green Forest has been generous enough to build actual PROGAMER BOOTHS!
And now you are saying they are a 1 day rental...I am a bit confused. Can you please explain this? Also..I know that when I had spoken to the guy...He was very set on trying to get 100-200 people to show up...he made it sound like he had more then enough computers, at that time...So has the actual location changed? Please forgive my many questions, I just really want to see this be like one of the biggest and best lans in the United States, besides WCG of course.
Also, as for online setup - I hope you guys are ready and fully prepared to deal with any possible hackers. If you need help with identifying them and that sort of thing, please let me know. I'd be more than happy to help you in that area, if I can. ^^ Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to read this! I hope it all goes well!
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yeah i agree online prelims kinda make it a lot harder for people who are planning to go from outside of the area... I'd like to participate for example but im not sure if i'll get enough $ in time to budget that, and sure as hell i dont want to pay for a plane ticket and then not qualify for whatever reasons to the round of 16... I agree its all about the live experience, if this can't be done in a full day, couldn't it be done in 2? i havent posted earlier because I dont know 100% if i'll be able to make it, but i certainly want to try... also: say i pay the 25$, pay for the qualifier and then i can't get the $ in time to book the flight? its not that im trustworthy or anything like that, but having qualifiers will give me even LESS time to figure out if i can get enough $ to fly ! 
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catz u were at the orlando ucf tournament right? where you live in florida?
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I would hate to buy my plane ticket and then get kicked out in the online prelims...
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What time frame are you looking at? Is it really impossible to have a quick four match prelim (similar to Razer Domination) prior to the tournament? It wouldn't be unreasonsable to request the competitors to arrive earlier in the day and have the spectators later on for the main event.
Could this be a two day thing? Have the prelim bracket the day before, then top 16 w/ booths the next?
I will talk to him about extending the event to two days.
I know my voice doesn't count for a whole lot here, but I figure if you can grab 64 people to come down and experience the live tournament, wouldn't that be best? The original organizer even said up to 100.
64-100 is completely unrealistic.
Hey Diggity..I know you guys are working on this very hard and all...but I have a few questions...Doesnt the OP say that he is building the booths?
The booths are being built on stage on site. Both the stages and the booth materials are rented from what I understand.
He was very set on trying to get 100-200 people to show up...he made it sound like he had more then enough computers, at that time...So has the actual location changed? The location has not changed. He only has 16 computers on site.
yeah i agree online prelims kinda make it a lot harder for people who are planning to go from outside of the area... I'd like to participate for example but im not sure if i'll get enough $ in time to budget that, and sure as hell i dont want to pay for a plane ticket and then not qualify for whatever reasons to the round of 16... I agree its all about the live experience, if this can't be done in a full day, couldn't it be done in 2? i havent posted earlier because I dont know 100% if i'll be able to make it, but i certainly want to try... also: say i pay the 25$, pay for the qualifier and then i can't get the $ in time to book the flight? its not that im trustworthy or anything like that, but having qualifiers will give me even LESS time to figure out if i can get enough $ to fly !
I understand that this makes it more difficult for out of towners. I will look into the 2 day option. Even then I would need to cap at 32. Otherwise I would suggest getting the tickets never the less and showing up to watch the live event if you don't qualify. At best you play in the live event. At worst you get to hang out with a ton of starcraft players and watch an awesome live event.
There is one repeatitive statement that I am seeing a lot of here and I want to smash it.....hard.
LANs dont take that long!
Yes they do. At the last event I worked with (UCSD winter games fest) we had 30 players and 30 computers. The event lasted 12 hours and we ended up playing the semi finals in a janitorial closet while the finals weren't even played on site.
That was SC1, where yes we had TvT (though at UCSD WGF there were two terran total) but there was also ZvZ to balance it out time wise. Additionally mid-to-mid-high level TvT tends not to last 1.5 hours a game where ZvZ is still almost always 12-15 minutes.
Now there is SC2. ZvZ can still go ling/baneling, but every other match up potentially runs into the 30 minute length. If you are reasoning that a majority of the games will only last 10-18 minutes you are at best being optimistic and at worst lying to yourself. Stop it.
I am prioritizing what I assume will be a large number of spectators over what will most likely be 16-30 players. Sorry.
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On June 17 2010 00:07 NerO wrote:
catz u were at the orlando ucf tournament right? where you live in florida?
fort lauderdale sir
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Diggity, what format are you planning to use for the final 16? Bo3, Bo5? Single vs double elimination?
Maybe something completely different?
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Id like to register to compete.
Name: Sean Hines
UserID: BSB
Participate
My email: bistrosean@gmail.com
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I'm down, a local afterall.
Name: Kevin Coleman
UserID: Aberu
Participate
Email: aberusugi@gmail.com
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Diggity, what format are you planning to use for the final 16? Bo3, Bo5? Single vs double elimination?
Maybe something completely different?
I am waiting to announce the format until after I know if we have 2 days to work with or not.
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Can I come?!?! I wanna play! xD
Darkness (Z)
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Name: Gail Martin
UserID: Attris
Participate
Email: Gail.martiniii@gmail.com
Too good to pass up. It's like a 15 min drive.
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Alex Hart - OhNoes
Go ahead and sign me up for some spectatoring.
Also, I live in Santa Barbara, which is about 30 minutes from this location. If a few people need lodging if this does become a two-day event, I can probably sleep a few people. I promise it's clean, and I can get you back down the next day.
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On June 17 2010 16:24 OhNoes wrote:
Alex Hart - OhNoes
Go ahead and sign me up for some spectatoring.
Also, I live in Santa Barbara, which is about 30 minutes from this location. If a few people need lodging if this does become a two-day event, I can probably sleep a few people. I promise it's clean, and I can get you back down the next day.
XD
You're awesome for letting total strangers sleep in your home! Hopefully it's not a raged nerd after a horrible night at a LAN party lol
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On June 17 2010 16:24 OhNoes wrote:
Alex Hart - OhNoes
Go ahead and sign me up for some spectatoring.
Also, I live in Santa Barbara, which is about 30 minutes from this location. If a few people need lodging if this does become a two-day event, I can probably sleep a few people. I promise it's clean, and I can get you back down the next day.
I may have to take you up on that offer.
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Ill register to play.
David Maynard, DocM
Id suggest putting in a losers bracket or something similar because Im guessing there will be a lot of people intimidated by all the high ranked players up there.
Email is DRM230@gmail.com
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Id like to register to compete.
Name: Jonathan Limjoco
UserID: madisonST
Participate
My email: Jonlimjoco@gmail.com
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Id suggest putting in a losers bracket or something similar because Im guessing there will be a lot of people intimidated by all the high ranked players up there
I want to see the total number of participants before I make any concrete decisions. If its not double/triple elim it will definitely be seeded.
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On June 19 2010 05:51 Diggity wrote:Show nested quote +Id suggest putting in a losers bracket or something similar because Im guessing there will be a lot of people intimidated by all the high ranked players up there I want to see the total number of participants before I make any concrete decisions. If its not double/triple elim it will definitely be seeded.
When will you post a list of sing-ups or whatever???
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