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Roniii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States289 Posts
June 15 2010 20:01 GMT
#41
On June 15 2010 16:25 KawaiiRice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 12:58 JnShox wrote:
I will be flying from seattle, wa, How close is Oxnard airport to ventura? I will fly in the 13th a day before the tourney. I was curious on the cost for a cab or something


Seattle reppin' brah!

Adrian Kwong - KawaiiRice


Dang right we will be making the trip. Should be a blast
you think as i do
My5tiC4L
Profile Joined May 2010
United States13 Posts
June 15 2010 21:22 GMT
#42
When is the deadline for signups?
Failure is the secret to success
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
June 15 2010 21:46 GMT
#43
We have to play part of the lan tourney online and only 16 can play there? Or am I not reading this right...?


There are 16 on site computers. Therefore in the interest of sanity we are limiting the in person lan number to 16. Rather than playing favorites (based on popular names or who managed to see this thread first) we will be running an online bracket to get the 16 finalists.

This will also help maintain a high level of competition for the spectators.
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 21:48:28
June 15 2010 21:47 GMT
#44
When is the deadline for signups?


The deadline will be July 20th. (for players not spectators)
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
June 15 2010 21:56 GMT
#45
Joshua Gutman - MoreFaSho
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
My5tiC4L
Profile Joined May 2010
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 22:19:50
June 15 2010 22:14 GMT
#46
On June 16 2010 06:46 Diggity wrote:
Show nested quote +
We have to play part of the lan tourney online and only 16 can play there? Or am I not reading this right...?


There are 16 on site computers. Therefore in the interest of sanity we are limiting the in person lan number to 16. Rather than playing favorites (based on popular names or who managed to see this thread first) we will be running an online bracket to get the 16 finalists.

This will also help maintain a high level of competition for the spectators.


I think a first to two preliminary round would be better at the lan place in order to get to the final 16 than an online bracket. It would make it fair and a much better experience for the unknown players.
Failure is the secret to success
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 15 2010 22:38 GMT
#47
online is a fairly bad idea imo.

Going to get EVERYONE to play the online (0 risk) then of the 16 that qualify you are not promised to get all 16 to go to the offline. And each person that skips completely ruins the experience for at least one person but also it damages the integrity of the tourney itself.

You are better off capping the lan at 16 or 32 or something and holding an offline elimination round or w/e.

For a 1k$ prize you won't find a mob of angry people that DarkZergKing1334 was cut out from participating because the tourney was limited to 16 and 16 known/top level gamers committed whereas if you have people commit then decide they don't want to buy the ticket to the west coast (SHETH/HUK) after qualifying you will ruin the tourney.
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 23:04:29
June 15 2010 23:02 GMT
#48
Going to get EVERYONE to play the online (0 risk) then of the 16 that qualify you are not promised to get all 16 to go to the offline. And each person that skips completely ruins the experience for at least one person but also it damages the integrity of the tourney itself.

You are better off capping the lan at 16 or 32 or something and holding an offline elimination round or w/e.

For a 1k$ prize you won't find a mob of angry people that DarkZergKing1334 was cut out from participating because the tourney was limited to 16 and 16 known/top level gamers committed whereas if you have people commit then decide they don't want to buy the ticket to the west coast (SHETH/HUK) after qualifying you will ruin the tourney.


Its not zero risk. People have to pay to play up front. Additionally I know I can trust some of the known names, but that doesn't total up to 16.
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
June 15 2010 23:10 GMT
#49
as far as online qualifiers when will they be? becuz if buy tickets earlier there obviously cheaper; but then if i lose in online qualifier i will disappoint.
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Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 23:48:26
June 15 2010 23:24 GMT
#50
as far as online qualifiers when will they be? becuz if buy tickets earlier there obviously cheaper; but then if i lose in online qualifier i will disappoint.


Online qualifiers will be fairly close to release by necessity. If you buy tickets and dont qualify we can still set up show matches on stage for you among other things HuK.

Depending in the numbers I might be able to run a double elimination tournament as well. I definitely don't plan on running a single elimination qualifier so you should be safe.


I think a first to two preliminary round would be better at the lan place in order to get to the final 16 than an online bracket. It would make it fair and a much better experience for the unknown players.


I agree it would be ideal to have the entire event live, but I am far more concerned about time constraints. The booth is a single day rental only and it is expensive for the owners. Additionally I want to be done early so we definitely meet the clock time for any spectators that want to show up for the korean booth-live commentary solely.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 15 2010 23:57 GMT
#51
On June 16 2010 08:24 Diggity wrote:
Show nested quote +
as far as online qualifiers when will they be? becuz if buy tickets earlier there obviously cheaper; but then if i lose in online qualifier i will disappoint.


Online qualifiers will be fairly close to release by necessity. If you buy tickets and dont qualify we can still set up show matches on stage for you among other things HuK.

Depending in the numbers I might be able to run a double elimination tournament as well. I definitely don't plan on running a single elimination qualifier so you should be safe.


Show nested quote +
I think a first to two preliminary round would be better at the lan place in order to get to the final 16 than an online bracket. It would make it fair and a much better experience for the unknown players.


I agree it would be ideal to have the entire event live, but I am far more concerned about time constraints. The booth is a single day rental only and it is expensive for the owners. Additionally I want to be done early so we definitely meet the clock time for any spectators that want to show up for the korean booth-live commentary solely.


One important argument for offline prelims is it will ensure greater turnout.

What time frame are you looking at? Is it really impossible to have a quick four match prelim (similar to Razer Domination) prior to the tournament? It wouldn't be unreasonsable to request the competitors to arrive earlier in the day and have the spectators later on for the main event.
Thank God and gunrun.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
June 16 2010 00:08 GMT
#52
Could this be a two day thing? Have the prelim bracket the day before, then top 16 w/ booths the next?
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 12:24:57
June 16 2010 02:28 GMT
#53
I'd like to register to play .
Eric Isip

ID: SetzeR online
twitch.tv/setz3r
JnShox
Profile Joined June 2010
United States47 Posts
June 16 2010 02:54 GMT
#54
In all honestly, the online preliminary would not be good. I'm on incontrol's side about this. I played live @ WCG seattle many years ago, and there was only 8 computers with 60 player turnout and it went perfectly fine and only lasted 1 day. Matches typically only last 15 min max, unless its a 30-40 min game which doesn't happen often. Myself and my friend are willing to purchase a plane ticket, to fly to cali and get to the Lan tourney. Its all about the experience. What if a known player gets beat out by a unknown player. That wouldn't be cool. It's all about the " live experience " imo. You could run the tourney WCG style once everyone is there @ the site. Group A with X amount of players, top 2 move on etc....and make it into a bracket or something??? Anyone else got ideas?
TimeToPractice!
Profile Joined January 2010
United States105 Posts
June 16 2010 04:13 GMT
#55
I know my voice doesn't count for a whole lot here, but I figure if you can grab 64 people to come down and experience the live tournament, wouldn't that be best? The original organizer even said up to 100.

64 is a power of 2, so it'd be fitting in that regard. If there's more than 64, you could arrange online qualifiers that way, but still get a larger player base for the event.
425-298 cumulative record in the beta. 49-26 record in retail. Account: Practice
NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
June 16 2010 04:24 GMT
#56
definately a big live event will be awesome
Sigmaoctanus
Profile Joined April 2010
42 Posts
June 16 2010 04:39 GMT
#57
If there are only 16 computers maybe it would be possible to bring more??? I know I Could bring my computer maybe even 2. Though I am not driving from that far away. Just throwing out my suggestions. Since I would love to see everyone play there not online since this would be the first real SC2 lan tournament.
I am Godzilla you are Japan
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 05:32:19
June 16 2010 04:47 GMT
#58
On June 16 2010 13:39 Sigmaoctanus wrote:
If there are only 16 computers maybe it would be possible to bring more??? I know I Could bring my computer maybe even 2. Though I am not driving from that far away. Just throwing out my suggestions. Since I would love to see everyone play there not online since this would be the first real SC2 lan tournament.


Umm you mean in the USA****
Wow I am dumb
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 16 2010 05:55 GMT
#59
On June 16 2010 11:54 JnShox wrote:
In all honestly, the online preliminary would not be good. I'm on incontrol's side about this. I played live @ WCG seattle many years ago, and there was only 8 computers with 60 player turnout and it went perfectly fine and only lasted 1 day. Matches typically only last 15 min max, unless its a 30-40 min game which doesn't happen often. Myself and my friend are willing to purchase a plane ticket, to fly to cali and get to the Lan tourney. Its all about the experience. What if a known player gets beat out by a unknown player. That wouldn't be cool. It's all about the " live experience " imo. You could run the tourney WCG style once everyone is there @ the site. Group A with X amount of players, top 2 move on etc....and make it into a bracket or something??? Anyone else got ideas?



I envision something like a razer domination style prelim would work quite well:
http://razer.cups.gamesports.net/overview/groupa

Morning to noonish: Prelims

Seperate everyone to five different groups on first come first serve basis (or random). The groups play matches within themselves, as many as they like until time's up. All wins and loses are logged and ingroup ranking will be by pure win:loses. Tie-breakers are determined by intergroup win/loses (this is similar to the college football system).

Afternoon to evening: Tournament

The Top three ranking players of each groups qualify for the tournament, as well as one wildcard with the highest number of wins that did not already qualify. Tournament is pure brackets best of 3. Semi-finals best of 5. Grand finals best of 7.
Thank God and gunrun.
everytimee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
June 16 2010 05:55 GMT
#60
Joseph Leone
everytime
sign me up please
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