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Go4SC2 Final (May) - Live on ESL TV

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arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 20:02:11
May 27 2010 18:10 GMT
#1
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Go4SC2 Final (May)




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More informations about the Go4SC2 Cups

AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
May 27 2010 19:17 GMT
#2
Awesome.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 27 2010 19:31 GMT
#3
GO DIMAGGIO
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Deleted User 50491
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
721 Posts
May 27 2010 20:04 GMT
#4
go vT.HuK
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
May 29 2010 14:53 GMT
#5
As the last Saturday cup is running at the moment it is very safe to say that the top 6 of that ranking will qualify for sure. Since Socke was eliminated in one of the first rounds today he will most likey not be able to remain in the top 8. Brat_OK is also not 100% sure since Haypro, NightEnD and MorroW are still in the run for points today. The winner of today's cup will also have a good shot at the top 8 (possible candidate is last month's champion White-Ra amongst others).

The grid can be found at http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/go4sc2/cup19/rankings/
@ESL_Shawn
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
May 29 2010 18:35 GMT
#6
This has been a very enjoyable series throughout the beta, and is one of the best ways for American or North American players to get a chance to see a lot of the top European players competing. Thanks so much for hosting these, and I'm going to be sad to see it come to a close soon.
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 19:16:56
May 29 2010 19:16 GMT
#7
so pretty much morrow edges out socke?
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
May 29 2010 19:26 GMT
#8
good luck Strelok!
#1 김택용 팬 | #1 화승 오즈 프로게임단 팬 | 스타2 하자! | 나를 찢어갈겨 이 씨발놈아 왜 나를 미치게 만들어 니가 뭘 아는데?
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 07:20:11
May 30 2010 07:11 GMT
#9
On May 30 2010 04:16 Sfydjklm wrote:
so pretty much morrow edges out socke?


yes
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 30 2010 07:14 GMT
#10
5ts^^
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 08:10:28
May 30 2010 08:07 GMT
#11
TLO's gonna have a busy weekend.
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 17:25:25
May 30 2010 17:24 GMT
#12
Grid can be found at http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/go4sc2/final_may2010/
@ESL_Shawn
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3325 Posts
May 31 2010 08:37 GMT
#13
On May 31 2010 02:24 Shawngood wrote:
Grid can be found at http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/go4sc2/final_may2010/#


Looking forward to this -- great looking brackets. =D
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
May 31 2010 08:50 GMT
#14
i will have to watch this.
I am not good with quotes
uNtrue_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
May 31 2010 13:22 GMT
#15
Reading the time,This is in like 3 hours correct? confirm or deny
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
May 31 2010 13:27 GMT
#16
yes, its in 3 hours from this post
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 31 2010 13:52 GMT
#17
HOT

this is all TLO tho.
Administrator
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
May 31 2010 15:30 GMT
#18
starts in 1 hour
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
May 31 2010 15:31 GMT
#19
will anyone stream this or should i start downloading octostream?
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
May 31 2010 15:39 GMT
#20
only 1 1/3 zergs and they even meet first round.
antihope
Profile Joined May 2010
United States42 Posts
May 31 2010 15:40 GMT
#21
Anyone had any luck getting the octoshape to work on a mac? I have the program running but have never been able to get their player to work. Also, a restream would be amazing!
"Banshees make very good work" -Duckload
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
May 31 2010 15:47 GMT
#22
wow cant wait! Just disappointed Z is so underplayed these days at top levels for obvious reasons =(
Nerf MMMT!!! Liquid`Ret Hwaiting!!!
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
May 31 2010 15:50 GMT
#23
On June 01 2010 00:47 FlamingTurd wrote:
wow cant wait! Just disappointed Z is so underplayed these days at top levels for obvious reasons =(


what?
Did you not see the worldcup results for top 8?
huxs
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden18 Posts
May 31 2010 15:52 GMT
#24
On June 01 2010 00:40 antihope wrote:
Anyone had any luck getting the octoshape to work on a mac? I have the program running but have never been able to get their player to work. Also, a restream would be amazing!


I've tried to get it running on Linux but I couldn't find a working solution for that. Guess mac might be in the same situation.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 31 2010 16:04 GMT
#25
Really looking forward to cast this shit! :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
lolf
Profile Joined April 2010
Bulgaria49 Posts
May 31 2010 16:29 GMT
#26
you guys don't run an english cast right?
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
May 31 2010 16:34 GMT
#27
Can anyone tell me if the stream is on?

Trying to get octoshape working but i can't tell if there's a problem with it without confirming that stream is actually on
nem-san
Profile Joined May 2008
11 Posts
May 31 2010 16:34 GMT
#28
On June 01 2010 01:04 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Really looking forward to cast this shit! :D

oh no failly and narutlow do the cast? i will wait for the replays...
SchumyGR
Profile Joined May 2010
Greece19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 16:35:42
May 31 2010 16:35 GMT
#29
Any english cast stream for this event?
PainBall
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden111 Posts
May 31 2010 16:37 GMT
#30
whats the link for casting anyways? any cast!
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
May 31 2010 16:37 GMT
#31
Hey what a nice little bracket we got.

Hopefully someone will stream this because the source stream requires shitty adon programs (Octoscope) wich I do not want to infect my computer with.
Ch00
Profile Joined May 2010
28 Posts
May 31 2010 16:38 GMT
#32
WTB english stream -- very much!
The pain train is comin CH00 Ch00!!
SchumyGR
Profile Joined May 2010
Greece19 Posts
May 31 2010 16:38 GMT
#33
On June 01 2010 01:37 PainBall wrote:
whats the link for casting anyways? any cast!

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/month_details.php?calendar_year=2010&calendar_month=6#event_2268
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 31 2010 16:42 GMT
#34
On June 01 2010 01:37 Monzterg wrote:
Hey what a nice little bracket we got.

Hopefully someone will stream this because the source stream requires shitty adon programs (Octoscope) wich I do not want to infect my computer with.


I use Octoshape for 2-3 years already and never had issues with it. Actually you don't even know the name of the program, but you have opinions on it ^^ you're clever sir.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 16:45:33
May 31 2010 16:43 GMT
#35
On June 01 2010 01:38 SchumyGR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 01:37 PainBall wrote:
whats the link for casting anyways? any cast!

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/month_details.php?calendar_year=2010&calendar_month=6#event_2268


I can't get that stream to work. Does it work for anyone else?

Edit: Nwm, I figured out what I did wrong.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
May 31 2010 16:44 GMT
#36
mine doesnt either
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 31 2010 16:44 GMT
#37
Only works in internet explorer for me.

I like German commentary a lot for some reason, I don't know what they are saying, but its still better than 90% of English commentary.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 31 2010 16:46 GMT
#38
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Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
May 31 2010 16:47 GMT
#39
No there is no issue with it, im sure it works but it has annoying auto functions and there is absolutley no reason to have a shitty program like this on your PC. It might not even be safe.

If someone could please stream this so that people that doesnt want this junk can watch?
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
May 31 2010 16:48 GMT
#40
On June 01 2010 01:46 boesthius wrote:
i could do a restream if anyone would like, i might cast too although i'm insanely tired -_-


That would be super good!
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 31 2010 16:49 GMT
#41
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Nimeron
Profile Joined May 2010
10 Posts
May 31 2010 16:49 GMT
#42
On June 01 2010 01:46 boesthius wrote:
i could do a restream if anyone would like, i might cast too although i'm insanely tired -_-


Would be great if you could.
I can't get the stream to work, even with Octoshape installed :/ (tried in Chrome and IE).

Much appreciated if you would restream it
Strelok
Profile Joined January 2006
Ukraine320 Posts
May 31 2010 16:49 GMT
#43
On June 01 2010 01:44 Megalisk wrote:
I like German commentary a lot for some reason, I don't know what they are saying, but its still better than 90% of English commentary.


I like German stream, because i don't know what bullshit they are saying ;p
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 16:50:16
May 31 2010 16:50 GMT
#44
Doesn't work at all for me. I have Octoshape as well, and I'm trying tit in firefox.

We definitely need a restream. The hateplow guy at the top of this page's stream isn't on.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
May 31 2010 16:50 GMT
#45
On June 01 2010 01:44 Megalisk wrote:
Only works in internet explorer for me.

I like German commentary a lot for some reason, I don't know what they are saying, but its still better than 90% of English commentary.


Why are they speaking German?

I dont get why they are casting on the internet and then restricting themselfs to German viewers like that, it doesnt make sense.

Why are they not speaking English?
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
May 31 2010 16:50 GMT
#46
On June 01 2010 01:49 boesthius wrote:
octoshape is perfectly safe, been using it since esl's been around and i've never had a problem with it sry -_-

setting up my stream:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hateplow/v3


thank you so much- i cant get the stream to work on anything.
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 31 2010 16:54 GMT
#47
On June 01 2010 01:49 3D.Strelok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 01:44 Megalisk wrote:
I like German commentary a lot for some reason, I don't know what they are saying, but its still better than 90% of English commentary.


I like German stream, because i don't know what bullshit they are saying ;p


I heard Morrow plays soon. You should watch that
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 31 2010 16:55 GMT
#48
On June 01 2010 01:50 Monzterg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 01:44 Megalisk wrote:
Only works in internet explorer for me.

I like German commentary a lot for some reason, I don't know what they are saying, but its still better than 90% of English commentary.


Why are they speaking German?

I dont get why they are casting on the internet and then restricting themselfs to German viewers like that, it doesnt make sense.

Why are they not speaking English?


Why do koreans speak korean? Are you really that ignorant? This is a german event, catered first to the german viewers, some of which pay to watch the "premium" stream. If you realy dislike the commentary just hit mute.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
May 31 2010 16:56 GMT
#49
On June 01 2010 01:49 3D.Strelok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 01:44 Megalisk wrote:
I like German commentary a lot for some reason, I don't know what they are saying, but its still better than 90% of English commentary.


I like German stream, because i don't know what bullshit they are saying ;p


not much bullshit, naruto knows what he is talking about
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
May 31 2010 16:56 GMT
#50
solid game. wp TLO
I am not good with quotes
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:02:15
May 31 2010 17:00 GMT
#51
On June 01 2010 01:55 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 01:50 Monzterg wrote:
On June 01 2010 01:44 Megalisk wrote:
Only works in internet explorer for me.

I like German commentary a lot for some reason, I don't know what they are saying, but its still better than 90% of English commentary.


Why are they speaking German?

I dont get why they are casting on the internet and then restricting themselfs to German viewers like that, it doesnt make sense.

Why are they not speaking English?


Why do koreans speak korean? Are you really that ignorant? This is a german event, catered first to the german viewers, some of which pay to watch the "premium" stream. If you realy dislike the commentary just hit mute.



Im not complaining. Just wondering about why ESL is hosting in German.
And come on dont compare with the Asians that have a completly different language and dont learn English in school neither do they have any of their media in English on their entire continent. You cant compare Germany with Asia since Germany is just a small country in Europe and they could ofcourse be speaking English.

Since the Internet isnt restricted by country borders it just makes sense to host events broadcasted on the internet in English if you can. Would be different if it was on a German TV channel only broadcasting in Germany.
rhaaw
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania28 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:17:28
May 31 2010 17:05 GMT
#52
On June 01 2010 02:00 Monzterg wrote:
Im not complaining. Just wondering about why ESL is hosting in German.
And come on dont compare with the Asians that have a completly different language and dont learn English in school neither do they have any of their media in English on their entire continent. You cant compare Germany with Asia since Germany is just a small country in Europe and they could ofcourse be speaking English.

Since the Internet isnt restricted by country borders it just makes sense to host events broadcasted on the internet in English if you can. Would be different if it was on a German TV channel only broadcasting in Germany.


+1

English means more coverage, more viewers, better for SC overall. Germans need to l2 English TBH. And so do Koreans.

EDIT: I don't mean to insult Germans or Koreans, I apologise if it comes out that way. I obviously (in my mind) meant the leagues/casters/organisers need to l2 English or have their language + English streams. Pretty sure, especially for large tournaments the benefits would greatly compensate for the price of a couple of English commentators (think stuff like MSL finals, even this GO4SC2 finals, assuming they did enough advertising ahead of time - kind of like HDH did).
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 31 2010 17:06 GMT
#53
Any update on the results for the first round?
nem-san
Profile Joined May 2008
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:19:26
May 31 2010 17:08 GMT
#54
BratOK 0:1 Tarson
TLO 2:0 DarkForce
HasuObs 0:2 HuK
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:08:21
May 31 2010 17:08 GMT
#55
.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 31 2010 17:09 GMT
#56
the question is not why the games are broadcasted in german, but why they arent also broadcasted in english.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
antiq
Profile Joined June 2008
Slovakia191 Posts
May 31 2010 17:10 GMT
#57
Ahahahh, "Da kommt der drop" = Here comes the drop, half a second after that the stream drops alright.
nem-san
Profile Joined May 2008
11 Posts
May 31 2010 17:11 GMT
#58
they dont have any english sc2 caster thats the problem and tbh the german cast sucks
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 31 2010 17:13 GMT
#59
On June 01 2010 02:11 nem-san wrote:
they dont have any english sc2 caster thats the problem and tbh the german cast sucks

this isnt a problem and, in fact, there is no excuse to not have an english cast for what is now 3rd Go4sc2 monthly final.
It's just a huge blunder on ESL part.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
May 31 2010 17:14 GMT
#60
just stop this
p1ng
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany53 Posts
May 31 2010 17:15 GMT
#61
Well, if the english cast would have the quality of the german one,.. you better watch the replays :x

Anyway, I think they could get "2gd" or "Jon" into this SC commentary relatively easy and their quake casts are awesome. Not to much they must learn to be better prepared than this guys.
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
May 31 2010 17:18 GMT
#62
2gd just left esl.
Cashout
Profile Joined May 2010
115 Posts
May 31 2010 17:19 GMT
#63
hasuobs out
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 31 2010 17:19 GMT
#64
oh right it was announced then 2gd was gonna cast.. I guess there is some sort of excuse.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 31 2010 17:19 GMT
#65
where do i find map pool rules and IRC channel chat. theres 0 info on this tour . . .
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
May 31 2010 17:19 GMT
#66
gogo Huk/TLO!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Almisael
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria235 Posts
May 31 2010 17:22 GMT
#67
as you all know german english doesn't sound very professional (for example forsti, no offense intended) => there's no english cast if they can't keep their "high" standards of commentating.
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
May 31 2010 17:22 GMT
#68
On June 01 2010 02:19 MorroW wrote:
where do i find map pool rules and IRC channel chat. theres 0 info on this tour . . .


Hey MorroW you are in this tournament, dont miss your game!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 31 2010 17:23 GMT
#69
On June 01 2010 02:19 MorroW wrote:
where do i find map pool rules and IRC channel chat. theres 0 info on this tour . . .


On the first post in this threads there is a link saying:

More informations about the Go4SC2 Cups

Maybe you should try that one...
Banelings are too cute to blow up
nem-san
Profile Joined May 2008
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 20:01:38
May 31 2010 17:24 GMT
#70
quarter-finals
BratOK 0:2 Tarson
TLO 2:0 DarkForce
HasuObs 0:2 HuK
Strelok 0:2 MorroW

semi-finals
Tarson 1:2 TLO
MorroW 0:2 HuK

final
TLO 2:3 HuK
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 31 2010 17:24 GMT
#71
On June 01 2010 02:23 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 02:19 MorroW wrote:
where do i find map pool rules and IRC channel chat. theres 0 info on this tour . . .


On the first post in this threads there is a link saying:

More informations about the Go4SC2 Cups

Maybe you should try that one...

maybe you should...
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
May 31 2010 17:25 GMT
#72
On June 01 2010 02:23 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 02:19 MorroW wrote:
where do i find map pool rules and IRC channel chat. theres 0 info on this tour . . .


On the first post in this threads there is a link saying:

More informations about the Go4SC2 Cups

Maybe you should try that one...



No, that's just a general information thread by the esl

Morrow means that there are no rules or maps on the esl page
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:26:31
May 31 2010 17:26 GMT
#73
I think german casts sound cool and you can still watch the game who cares what they are saying? ;p you get the gist of it since all the units/buildings are in english.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 31 2010 17:26 GMT
#74
--- Nuked ---
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
May 31 2010 17:26 GMT
#75
On June 01 2010 02:22 Almisael wrote:
as you all know german english doesn't sound very professional (for example forsti, no offense intended) => there's no english cast if they can't keep their "high" standards of commentating.


Hey there is no problem listening to forsti!
Its alot better then having it in German. If you are bothered by some dialect or some incorrect grammar here and there then thats for you to deal with urself

Forsti is doing a great job streaming himself. but this is ESL guys?? amazing they dont host this in English. They must not want alot of viewers
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 31 2010 17:27 GMT
#76
On June 01 2010 02:22 Almisael wrote:
as you all know german english doesn't sound very professional (for example forsti, no offense intended) => there's no english cast if they can't keep their "high" standards of commentating.

maybe in their lil world of novelty commentating...
It's not like 2gd is really capable of doing a decent SC2 cast either.
Besides Tasteless and Day and Wheat and Chill and Artosis are right there i'm sure they wont say no to money.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
ElemenT_PL
Profile Joined May 2009
33 Posts
May 31 2010 17:29 GMT
#77
go Tarson !
super
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:34:39
May 31 2010 17:34 GMT
#78
On June 01 2010 02:27 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 02:22 Almisael wrote:
as you all know german english doesn't sound very professional (for example forsti, no offense intended) => there's no english cast if they can't keep their "high" standards of commentating.

maybe in their lil world of novelty commentating...
It's not like 2gd is really capable of doing a decent SC2 cast either.
Besides Tasteless and Day and Wheat and Chill and Artosis are right there i'm sure they wont say no to money.


sry but what are you talking about. ESL is in cologne, neither korea nor california are anywhere near that. 2gd would be able to make a decent cast, but he isn't working for esl anymore.
If you want english sc2 on esl, just leave a comment on there page:
http://tv.esl.eu/program/view/39699
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
May 31 2010 17:36 GMT
#79
hmm, strelok was too slow to react in the battle :S
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
May 31 2010 17:36 GMT
#80
nice simple strat by morrow. very nice.
I am not good with quotes
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:38:04
May 31 2010 17:36 GMT
#81
On June 01 2010 02:34 arctics86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 02:27 Sfydjklm wrote:
On June 01 2010 02:22 Almisael wrote:
as you all know german english doesn't sound very professional (for example forsti, no offense intended) => there's no english cast if they can't keep their "high" standards of commentating.

maybe in their lil world of novelty commentating...
It's not like 2gd is really capable of doing a decent SC2 cast either.
Besides Tasteless and Day and Wheat and Chill and Artosis are right there i'm sure they wont say no to money.


sry but what are you talking about. ESL is in cologne, neither korea nor california are anywhere near that. 2gd would be able to make a decent cast, but he isn't working for esl anymore.
If you want english sc2 on esl, just leave a comment on there page:
http://tv.esl.eu/program/view/39699

so ur excuse for ESL not having an english cast is that they can't figure out how to stream over the internet?
yea that won't fly...

2gd would be a nice background noise but as far as decent? I wouldn't hope someone who has no idea about the game can do a decent cast.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
May 31 2010 17:37 GMT
#82
ESL TV is looking for English commentators and they will find someone until SC2 is retail (when all the new ESL SC2 competitions are starting!). Until then there is only the German stream available - sorry!
@ESL_Shawn
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
May 31 2010 17:40 GMT
#83
On June 01 2010 02:37 Shawngood wrote:
ESL TV is looking for English commentators and they will find someone until SC2 is retail (when all the new ESL SC2 competitions are starting!). Until then there is only the German stream available - sorry!


Hey thats good news that it's comming in English.
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
May 31 2010 17:44 GMT
#84
On June 01 2010 02:36 Sfydjklm wrote:

so ur excuse for ESL not having an english cast is that they can't figure out how to stream over the internet?
yea that won't fly...


They casted out of their studio for more than 5years now. Why should they change their way of casting all of the sudden? It's just their way to go.
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
May 31 2010 17:46 GMT
#85
too many TVT
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:49:12
May 31 2010 17:48 GMT
#86
On June 01 2010 02:36 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 02:34 arctics86 wrote:
On June 01 2010 02:27 Sfydjklm wrote:
On June 01 2010 02:22 Almisael wrote:
as you all know german english doesn't sound very professional (for example forsti, no offense intended) => there's no english cast if they can't keep their "high" standards of commentating.

maybe in their lil world of novelty commentating...
It's not like 2gd is really capable of doing a decent SC2 cast either.
Besides Tasteless and Day and Wheat and Chill and Artosis are right there i'm sure they wont say no to money.


sry but what are you talking about. ESL is in cologne, neither korea nor california are anywhere near that. 2gd would be able to make a decent cast, but he isn't working for esl anymore.
If you want english sc2 on esl, just leave a comment on there page:
http://tv.esl.eu/program/view/39699

so ur excuse for ESL not having an english cast is that they can't figure out how to stream over the internet?
yea that won't fly...


ESL has normal streams in english (viking cup, esl radio), but for ESL TV you have to be in Germany.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:52:07
May 31 2010 17:51 GMT
#87
2t 1p 1t/r in semi
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:57:57
May 31 2010 17:55 GMT
#88
how do i find out m opponents email so i can add . . .
ah nvm i think i can find it in the bracket vs like esl xd

edit: admin have to advance me in bracket so i can chat with huk
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 31 2010 17:56 GMT
#89
On June 01 2010 02:44 Wuffey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 02:36 Sfydjklm wrote:

so ur excuse for ESL not having an english cast is that they can't figure out how to stream over the internet?
yea that won't fly...


They casted out of their studio for more than 5years now. Why should they change their way of casting all of the sudden? It's just their way to go.

because they're breaking into international territories now?
Hey, it's their money, if they dont like to appeal to international advertises, its their choice.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Smu
Profile Joined July 2009
Serbia164 Posts
May 31 2010 17:57 GMT
#90
On June 01 2010 02:36 DeMusliM wrote:
hmm, strelok was too slow to react in the battle :S


Yeah, I was wondering what was that about myself. It took him almost 10 seconds to land his vikings that last attack. Quite odd coming from a seasoned bw player.
Take us into orbit Mr. Malmsteen. We've seen enough.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 31 2010 18:01 GMT
#91
OMG HOW does tlo make such AWESOME GAMES?!
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 31 2010 18:02 GMT
#92
lol reapers caught mid-jump, hilarious ;o
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:05:34
May 31 2010 18:03 GMT
#93
TLO pick zerg on DO,nice that's hilarious infestors vs mass reaper
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 31 2010 18:05 GMT
#94
Wow @ TLO and his fungal growth drops. Completely annihilating SCVs.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
May 31 2010 18:06 GMT
#95
that was such a baller move, fast infestors. omg.
I am not good with quotes
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
May 31 2010 18:06 GMT
#96
tlo has discovered that zerg only ever needs to make 2 units
infestors and lings
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 31 2010 18:07 GMT
#97
Well considering how good lings are vs marauders if a terran has 5 tech labs obviously its going to work beautifully.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:07:59
May 31 2010 18:07 GMT
#98
Why oh why Incineration Zone?
There is no map that is more heavily imba towards 1 race in the map pool right now.
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
Alak
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden380 Posts
May 31 2010 18:08 GMT
#99
That mass reaper build looked pretty scary there for a while. But some really nice infestor + ling play from TLO. He makes Terran interesting, Zerg interesting, hell, he could probably play the mouthharp and make it interesting.
Amateurish. Nearsighted. A waste of my time and everyone else's.
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:09:23
May 31 2010 18:08 GMT
#100
MorroW:
There are 3 admins trying to add you on Bnet. Could you check your friend requests, please?
@ESL_Shawn
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 31 2010 18:08 GMT
#101
Tarson should go for blue hellions. Should easily counter TLO's ZvT style.
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 31 2010 18:11 GMT
#102
first time i see a tarson game today, not that bad but i really hope TLO destroys him now
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 31 2010 18:16 GMT
#103
On June 01 2010 03:08 cyclone25 wrote:
Tarson should go for blue hellions. Should easily counter TLO's ZvT style.


Hellions are suprisingly bad when locked down by a flank//FG.
They rely on the hit/run that lines up the lings for them.

I managed to kill like 7 with like a flank with like 12 lings each side and 2 queens losing very little.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 31 2010 18:18 GMT
#104
On June 01 2010 03:08 Shawngood wrote:
MorroW:
There are 3 admins trying to add you on Bnet. Could you check your friend requests, please?

all is good now sonic helped ^^
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 31 2010 18:21 GMT
#105
wünschiii wins :D
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
May 31 2010 18:23 GMT
#106
War TLO!
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
May 31 2010 18:24 GMT
#107
+ Show Spoiler +
so TLO advanced to finals?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 31 2010 18:25 GMT
#108
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
antihope
Profile Joined May 2010
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:26:24
May 31 2010 18:25 GMT
#109
On June 01 2010 03:24 Prodtoss wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
so TLO advanced to finals?


edit: misread the grid
"Banshees make very good work" -Duckload
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 31 2010 18:25 GMT
#110
On June 01 2010 03:24 Prodtoss wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
so TLO advanced to finals?


jap
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
May 31 2010 18:26 GMT
#111
+ Show Spoiler +
yes TLO is in the finals vs HuK/MorroW
Chillsen
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany98 Posts
May 31 2010 18:26 GMT
#112
Thx for the restream!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 31 2010 18:27 GMT
#113
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


yeah it's cool, like it that there are four commentators

Baalzamon
Profile Joined April 2007
Germany106 Posts
May 31 2010 18:27 GMT
#114
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?

sure we do, keep it going!
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
May 31 2010 18:27 GMT
#115
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


Yes great cast, to bad HasuObs is out
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 31 2010 18:28 GMT
#116
On June 01 2010 03:27 arctics86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


Yes great cast, to bad HasuObs is out


no no, hasuObs was bad so he is out hehe
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
May 31 2010 18:29 GMT
#117
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


Yeah it's sweet =)
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
May 31 2010 18:31 GMT
#118
I liked the part when they noticed infestors can move while burrowed. "Wat de fack"
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
p1ng
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany53 Posts
May 31 2010 18:32 GMT
#119
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


To less real information, to less sonic (who is the only one there who can really say something important).

Camera is good when filly is not at the mouse, he preferes to watch destructable rocks instead of drops :X

To request something: If you have a closer look at the macro/income I would turn the sound back on! I dont care about a fast look at a expansion where you cant get more than "saturated or not?", especially in a mirror match where this is a key-element.
You didn't realize how perfect TLO played his infestor/speedling build, also against that. Thats what makes a build really strong, the adeption to every situation and the possibility to deal with every thread.
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
May 31 2010 18:35 GMT
#120
ugh if morrow was half as good in tvp as in tvt he would destroy this huk.

Come on morrow show some of your TvT souplesse in tvp.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 31 2010 18:36 GMT
#121
huk is actually really good
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
May 31 2010 18:36 GMT
#122
GOOOOOOO HUK 1-0 vs morrow so far woot

Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
zerotol
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium508 Posts
May 31 2010 18:36 GMT
#123
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


You are doing fine
Now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
May 31 2010 18:38 GMT
#124
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


Would be better if you could use the spectator exclusive Tabs more.
Just show the Production one instead of clicking on everyone Rax eg.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
May 31 2010 18:38 GMT
#125
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?

Which one are you? The guy next to Take? If so then yeah, you are pretty bad ass.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 31 2010 18:38 GMT
#126
On June 01 2010 03:32 p1ng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


To less real information, to less sonic (who is the only one there who can really say something important).

Camera is good when filly is not at the mouse, he preferes to watch destructable rocks instead of drops :X

To request something: If you have a closer look at the macro/income I would turn the sound back on! I dont care about a fast look at a expansion where you cant get more than "saturated or not?", especially in a mirror match where this is a key-element.
You didn't realize how perfect TLO played his infestor/speedling build, also against that. Thats what makes a build really strong, the adeption to every situation and the possibility to deal with every thread.


I complimented his infestor/ling play all the way, I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about to be honest. Also do you really think I don't have a clue about Starcraft 2 or what I'm talking about? Seems really strange, since I'd say Sonic/Me agree that I'm the better player and also have at least equal knowledge.

o.o I pointed out the macro and the gameplay situations as well as strategies and possibilities, could you please go into further detail? I'd like to improve my casting !

Also what sound :D? I'm not making the sound, I was just controlling camera for TLO vs Tarson .

And yeah, I agree with you about that income/unit tab etc. I'm not really used to it and need to use it more often in certain situations Thanks for your feedback.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:40:45
May 31 2010 18:39 GMT
#127
On June 01 2010 03:38 Wuffey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


Would be better if you could use the spectator exclusive Tabs more.
Just show the Production one instead of clicking on everyone Rax eg.


I'll try to do that more often, I'm sorry about that!

On June 01 2010 03:38 GenoZStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?

Which one are you? The guy next to Take? If so then yeah, you are pretty bad ass.


I'm the one next to Take, yes !
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 31 2010 18:39 GMT
#128
On June 01 2010 03:35 4Servy wrote:
ugh if morrow was half as good in tvp as in tvt he would destroy this huk.

Come on morrow show some of your TvT souplesse in tvp.


HuK is the more skilled player. That's all. Go HuK ^_^
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 31 2010 18:41 GMT
#129
On June 01 2010 03:39 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 03:38 Wuffey wrote:
On June 01 2010 03:25 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Do you guys like the casting..those who understand German :D?


Would be better if you could use the spectator exclusive Tabs more.
Just show the Production one instead of clicking on everyone Rax eg.


I'll try to do that more often, I'm sorry about that!


the free stream is sooo lofi that you can't even see what the tabs say
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 31 2010 18:45 GMT
#130
TLO vs Huk, this is going to be amazing :>
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:46:25
May 31 2010 18:45 GMT
#131
huk was really good, better than any foreign toss ive played so far. although both games ended early :p
i thought everyone from us were noobs, guess i was wrong xd

now i can enjoy the stream like the rest :D
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
May 31 2010 18:45 GMT
#132
WOW Huk!
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
learning
Profile Joined April 2010
United States104 Posts
May 31 2010 18:45 GMT
#133
+ Show Spoiler +
HuK v TLO!!!!!
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.
koshka
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany181 Posts
May 31 2010 18:46 GMT
#134
On June 01 2010 03:45 MorroW wrote:
huk was really good, better than any foreign toss ive played so far. although both games ended early :p
i thought everyone from us were noobs, guess i was wrong xd


lol :D
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 31 2010 18:46 GMT
#135
On June 01 2010 03:45 MorroW wrote:
huk was really good, better than any foreign toss ive played so far. although both games ended early :p
i thought everyone from us were noobs, guess i was wrong xd


:D i felt the same when i got pawned by him as well -_-
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
May 31 2010 18:47 GMT
#136
GOGO HUK

what was score HuK vs HasuObs?
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Tarson
Profile Joined July 2003
Poland130 Posts
May 31 2010 18:47 GMT
#137
On June 01 2010 03:45 MorroW wrote:
huk was really good, better than any foreign toss ive played so far. although both games ended early :p
i thought everyone from us were noobs, guess i was wrong xd

now i can enjoy the stream like the rest :D


u just abuse fe too much xD ggs
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 31 2010 18:48 GMT
#138
ah naruto you sexy boi xd
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:50:01
May 31 2010 18:49 GMT
#139
Huk's ability catch timing is really strong
nem-san
Profile Joined May 2008
11 Posts
May 31 2010 18:49 GMT
#140
really sad that morrow lost i hope tlo will play some terra vs huk
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 31 2010 18:50 GMT
#141
Protoss seems to be TLO's worst match-up. Let's see how this goes ^^
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:51:15
May 31 2010 18:50 GMT
#142
Huk is actually really solid yes i think people underestimate him because he does cheesey builds but he plays solid versions. Like that DT rush wasn't just DT it was pretty scary.

He's the only one to really have good success in euro tournies from the US too, pretty cool.
Could someone like SS the casters and like point out who is naruto, who is take and who is sonic? ;pp

TLO's zvp is pretty amazing btw.
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
May 31 2010 18:52 GMT
#143
tlo will play zerg first map
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 18:56:16
May 31 2010 18:53 GMT
#144
How is what HuK does cheesy? He plays the matchups how you're supposed to and if he doesn't he does somethign different and adds a twist. He didn't just harass with DTs there he used them in his army composition and it punished Morrow. It's a strategy game rofl Void rays were considered cheesy vs Terran.. then everybody did it and it was no longer cheese it was considered a strategy. What HuK did wasn't all in and HuK doesn't always play all in. He has good timing and is a strong player who has good mechanics even late game. He just rolled Morrow early game 'cause Morrow greedily took FE on Blistering Sands = suicide

Morrow hasn't learned yet that ghost mech vs P is instant win
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 31 2010 18:53 GMT
#145
On June 01 2010 03:50 Slayer91 wrote:
Huk is actually really solid yes i think people underestimate him because he does cheesey builds but he plays solid versions. Like that DT rush wasn't just DT it was pretty scary.

He's the only one to really have good success in euro tournies from the US too, pretty cool.
Could someone like SS the casters and like point out who is naruto, who is take and who is sonic? ;pp

TLO's zvp is pretty amazing btw.

[image loading]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I recognize him from his appearance in one of the Blizz events. =P
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
May 31 2010 18:54 GMT
#146
sonic orange, next to him filly, other screen take right naruto left
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
May 31 2010 18:54 GMT
#147
yeah that's him
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Dis(ease)
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany19 Posts
May 31 2010 18:54 GMT
#148
Yes this is Naruto, and Take sits next to him.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4219 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 19:05:51
May 31 2010 19:00 GMT
#149
NVM...misread


Go TLO!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 19:03:07
May 31 2010 19:00 GMT
#150
Nice, figured it might be him since i never saw him a=p thanks.

"How is what HuK does cheesy? He plays the matchups how you're supposed to and if he doesn't he does somethign different and adds a twist. He didn't just harass with DTs there he used them in his army composition and it punished Morrow. It's a strategy game rofl Void rays were considered cheesy vs Terran.. then everybody did it and it was no longer cheese it was considered a strategy. What HuK did wasn't all in and HuK doesn't always play all in. He has good timing and is a strong player who has good mechanics even late game. He just rolled Morrow early game 'cause Morrow greedily took FE on Blistering Sands = suicide"

calm down. DT's is considered "cheesey" because they are not good units if terran has turrets but he played it solidly and didn't go all-in with them. I'm calling "with a twist" "cheesy" thats all.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 31 2010 19:04 GMT
#151
is it bo5?
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Dis(ease)
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany19 Posts
May 31 2010 19:04 GMT
#152
Yes
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 31 2010 19:04 GMT
#153
man..
tlo just has absurdly good decisionmaking with zerg
especially with his lings. jesus he uses them well.
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
May 31 2010 19:04 GMT
#154
nice game for TLO, 3 queens ;D
all in bad choice for P
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 31 2010 19:04 GMT
#155
Damn... TLO impressive as always.
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 19:05:54
May 31 2010 19:05 GMT
#156
On June 01 2010 04:04 PredY wrote:
is it bo5?

yes


TLO knows exactly when he has to pump ling. Ans really really nice tumor use
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 31 2010 19:05 GMT
#157
I've never seen anyone try to follow up a 2gate on that map with 4gate. I would've liked to have seen Huk take his nat and play a macro game vs TLO.
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 19:07:31
May 31 2010 19:05 GMT
#158
Huk kill TLO's expan and retreat then expan may be better
Proxyles
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden27 Posts
May 31 2010 19:06 GMT
#159
gogo TLO
and btw, is the rumors about a english caster in ESL true?
the german is hard to understand =)
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
May 31 2010 19:07 GMT
#160
On June 01 2010 04:06 Proxyles wrote:
gogo TLO
and btw, is the rumors about a english caster in ESL true?
the german is hard to understand =)


On June 01 2010 02:37 Shawngood wrote:
ESL TV is looking for English commentators and they will find someone until SC2 is retail (when all the new ESL SC2 competitions are starting!). Until then there is only the German stream available - sorry!

Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 31 2010 19:08 GMT
#161
Score please ?
GoRiLLa
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany3 Posts
May 31 2010 19:09 GMT
#162
They have just lost their English WoW-Caster so they have to find a new one for WoW first, don't know if there is a english Caster who is familiar with WoW and SC2 so don't think that we see a english caster for SC2 at ESL in the next future
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 31 2010 19:10 GMT
#163
On June 01 2010 04:08 Lylat wrote:
Score please ?

1-0 for TLO.
Proxyles
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden27 Posts
May 31 2010 19:10 GMT
#164

On June 01 2010 02:37 Shawngood wrote:
ESL TV is looking for English commentators and they will find someone until SC2 is retail (when all the new ESL SC2 competitions are starting!). Until then there is only the German stream available - sorry!


http://rakaka.se/?newsID=14080

Dunno if you understand swedish, but in summary, DeMusliM is according to this rumor, going to comment SC2 with 2gd (former quake live commentator i think)
So its probably true then?
Niice
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
May 31 2010 19:11 GMT
#165
is this bo5
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 31 2010 19:11 GMT
#166
On June 01 2010 04:10 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 04:08 Lylat wrote:
Score please ?

1-0 for TLO.

Ok ty, I caught the stream when they were talking, thought it was over :S
Go TLO !
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
May 31 2010 19:13 GMT
#167
omg 4 warpgates!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
May 31 2010 19:15 GMT
#168
wow amazing move for the P
i think T was going to Ghost?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 31 2010 19:15 GMT
#169
o no
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
May 31 2010 19:15 GMT
#170
why not punish that greedy FE ^_^
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 19:17:43
May 31 2010 19:16 GMT
#171
Haha, even if you buld a CC for a walloff and mules you are still vulnerable to a 4 warpgate =p
It's sick how hard it is to play a good solid TvP.
Dis(ease)
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany19 Posts
May 31 2010 19:17 GMT
#172
On June 01 2010 04:09 GoRiLLa wrote:
They have just lost their English WoW-Caster so they have to find a new one for WoW first, don't know if there is a english Caster who is familiar with WoW and SC2 so don't think that we see a english caster for SC2 at ESL in the next future


Oh NOEZ.
James Harding is one of the best esport commentators.
Heavy loss for ESL TV :'(.
GoRiLLa
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany3 Posts
May 31 2010 19:17 GMT
#173
On June 01 2010 04:10 Proxyles wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 02:37 Shawngood wrote:
ESL TV is looking for English commentators and they will find someone until SC2 is retail (when all the new ESL SC2 competitions are starting!). Until then there is only the German stream available - sorry!


http://rakaka.se/?newsID=14080

Dunno if you understand swedish, but in summary, DeMusliM is according to this rumor, going to comment SC2 with 2gd (former quake live commentator i think)
So its probably true then?
Niice


But 2gd just left Esl-Tv so they won't cast for them but nice to hear that they will cast SC2 in the future
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
May 31 2010 19:19 GMT
#174

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On June 01 2010 02:37 Shawngood wrote:
ESL TV is looking for English commentators and they will find someone until SC2 is retail (when all the new ESL SC2 competitions are starting!). Until then there is only the German stream available - sorry!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


HELL YEAH! English ESL, epic news ^__^
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 31 2010 19:25 GMT
#175
holy creep tumor batman
savior did nothing wrong
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 31 2010 19:26 GMT
#176
Speedlings/infestors again :o
I really doubt it will work vs P.
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
May 31 2010 19:30 GMT
#177
so much power that army: colossus, phoenix, zealots + sentries T_T
Dis(ease)
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 19:31:26
May 31 2010 19:31 GMT
#178
On June 01 2010 04:25 EleanorRIgby wrote:
holy creep tumor batman

I think he said Madman, not Batman.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 31 2010 19:33 GMT
#179
+ Show Spoiler +
2-1 Huk
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
May 31 2010 19:33 GMT
#180
Is it Bo5
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
antihope
Profile Joined May 2010
United States42 Posts
May 31 2010 19:34 GMT
#181
yea at least bo5, at metalopolis now
"Banshees make very good work" -Duckload
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 31 2010 19:35 GMT
#182
i would suspect it's bo5 and not b07 since the last rounds were b03
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 31 2010 19:40 GMT
#183
Lol at TLO walking his queens up to Huks base.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 31 2010 19:40 GMT
#184
Lol at the 3 queens slowly making their way to Huk's base.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
antihope
Profile Joined May 2010
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 19:41:53
May 31 2010 19:40 GMT
#185
lol

+ Show Spoiler +
offensive queens :D

Also, transfusion is pretty sick against small early armies like that


"Banshees make very good work" -Duckload
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 31 2010 19:41 GMT
#186
haha love tlo :D
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 31 2010 19:41 GMT
#187
Immortal queens!
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
May 31 2010 19:42 GMT
#188
lol@game 4, dem queens man, dem queens
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
antihope
Profile Joined May 2010
United States42 Posts
May 31 2010 19:43 GMT
#189
oww that was one expensive warp prism
"Banshees make very good work" -Duckload
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 31 2010 19:43 GMT
#190
I love the random english that can be heard.

"warp prism die another day oh my god~"
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
May 31 2010 19:43 GMT
#191
lol... tlo always pull off these silly things out of his hat that works
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
May 31 2010 19:43 GMT
#192
What part of queen/ling rush compels one to make immortals
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 31 2010 19:44 GMT
#193
Haha nice queens move, I'm hoping for a good 5th game ! Go TLO !
NzaR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States199 Posts
May 31 2010 19:44 GMT
#194
nony must be disappointed in huk's phoenix use
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
May 31 2010 19:44 GMT
#195
another big game for Zergssss!!! ^ ^
thats why am zerg
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 31 2010 19:44 GMT
#196
Never seen a game like it. The queens did a good job at keeping huk inside his base while TLO teched up to spire.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 31 2010 19:45 GMT
#197
On June 01 2010 04:43 floor exercise wrote:
What part of queen/ling rush compels one to make immortals


Lol yeah I was thinking the same thing.

My guess is that he had robo + money, and not enough gates so he must have thought immortal was better than stocking resources.

Also, I always said ling/queen works vs 1-gate-anything. Offensively. Booya.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 31 2010 19:46 GMT
#198
That creep highway towards HuK's base was awesome.
learning
Profile Joined April 2010
United States104 Posts
May 31 2010 19:48 GMT
#199
Huk should have abandoned the expansion while it was still constructing, he wouldve been able to 1base defend until he could get an advantage maybe?
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
May 31 2010 19:49 GMT
#200
haha Morrow
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
May 31 2010 19:50 GMT
#201
so comes the ACE match?
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 31 2010 19:52 GMT
#202
void instead of pheonix would have caused havoc.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 31 2010 19:55 GMT
#203
On June 01 2010 04:52 CubEdIn wrote:
void instead of pheonix would have caused havoc.


He had 3 voids, what do you mean?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 31 2010 19:55 GMT
#204
TLO isn't mining gas..wtf
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 31 2010 19:56 GMT
#205
TLO could've placed those spine crawlers way better.... that was just inviting HuK to walk into his main =/
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 31 2010 19:57 GMT
#206
wow thats gg
savior did nothing wrong
n3gative
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada369 Posts
May 31 2010 19:57 GMT
#207
TLO's getting huk'd.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 31 2010 19:57 GMT
#208
Bad crawler positioning at his natural. :\
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 19:58:25
May 31 2010 19:57 GMT
#209
TLO in trouble right now. He has to do something to get back into the game.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 31 2010 19:57 GMT
#210
On June 01 2010 04:55 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 04:52 CubEdIn wrote:
void instead of pheonix would have caused havoc.


He had 3 voids, what do you mean?


I posted that as first pheonix was being built. I meant that earlier void would have prolly caused even more pain than these three did. Even so, he lost them kinda easily. He did very good, but could have done even better i think.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
antihope
Profile Joined May 2010
United States42 Posts
May 31 2010 19:58 GMT
#211
On June 01 2010 04:55 Megalisk wrote:
TLO isn't mining gas..wtf

he was microing the lings and didnt even have the hydras after that ray, lost his drones there and i guess he just didnt notice
"Banshees make very good work" -Duckload
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 31 2010 20:00 GMT
#212
On June 01 2010 04:57 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 04:55 nihlon wrote:
On June 01 2010 04:52 CubEdIn wrote:
void instead of pheonix would have caused havoc.


He had 3 voids, what do you mean?


I posted that as first pheonix was being built. I meant that earlier void would have prolly caused even more pain than these three did. Even so, he lost them kinda easily. He did very good, but could have done even better i think.


Yeah, possible. He haven't really used the pheonix's to their full potential, so a void might have been a better choice.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 31 2010 20:01 GMT
#213
This is over. TLO needed to push forward with his spinecrawlers so he could get a third. Or he should've made a hidden expo at the gold, he's bleeding ,oney atm.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
RmpL
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany263 Posts
May 31 2010 20:01 GMT
#214
so sad ! ;(
iAmSoniK
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada246 Posts
May 31 2010 20:01 GMT
#215
+ Show Spoiler +
Congrats Huk !
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 31 2010 20:01 GMT
#216
Yea, those crawlers really cost TLO the game...
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
May 31 2010 20:01 GMT
#217
WOW HuK! GG's
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
n3gative
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada369 Posts
May 31 2010 20:01 GMT
#218
HUK-FU strikes again
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
May 31 2010 20:01 GMT
#219
Another silver for TLO, how many of those have he collected lately?
learning
Profile Joined April 2010
United States104 Posts
May 31 2010 20:02 GMT
#220
HuK beats TLO! 3-2! HuK SMASH!
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 31 2010 20:02 GMT
#221
Well played. I like finals that have all games played. Very entertaining.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 20:04:23
May 31 2010 20:02 GMT
#222
Fun tourney, quite alot of games.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 20:04:23
May 31 2010 20:03 GMT
#223
On June 01 2010 05:01 Hikari wrote:
Another silver for TLO, how many of those have he collected lately?

I'm trying to think of others...
Ummmm.
I got nothing.
Though I haven't watched the Altitude invitational yet.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 31 2010 20:03 GMT
#224
Huk took the lead in the last game and didn't look back. Very solid play by him.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 31 2010 20:04 GMT
#225
Huk is better than most people give him credit for

As I've said in other places, North American players should really be invited to more international tournaments. The guys at EG, root, etc. are fully capable of competing with the best of the EU and possibly Asia as well.
Dis(ease)
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany19 Posts
May 31 2010 20:04 GMT
#226
Games were nice to watch (way better than Sheth vs. QXC xD)
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
May 31 2010 20:06 GMT
#227
On June 01 2010 05:03 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 05:01 Hikari wrote:
Another silver for TLO, how many of those have he collected lately?

I'm trying to think of others...
Ummmm.
I got nothing.
Though I haven't watched the Altitude invitational yet.



he got one just 2 (?) days ago in the kasperky cup vs sen
Dis(ease)
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany19 Posts
May 31 2010 20:06 GMT
#228
On June 01 2010 05:04 Azarkon wrote:
Huk is better than most people give him credit for

As I've said in other places, North American players should really be invited to more international tournaments. The guys at EG, root, etc. are fully capable of competing with the best of the EU and possibly Asia as well.


I don't get your point, the tournaments are open for everyone, but when the NA players don't assign on those tournaments it's their fault.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
May 31 2010 20:07 GMT
#229
its really a bit harsh that only 1st place gets anything at all
the other silvers weren't that tragic as this one.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 20:09:25
May 31 2010 20:08 GMT
#230
On June 01 2010 05:06 Dis(ease) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 05:04 Azarkon wrote:
Huk is better than most people give him credit for

As I've said in other places, North American players should really be invited to more international tournaments. The guys at EG, root, etc. are fully capable of competing with the best of the EU and possibly Asia as well.


I don't get your point, the tournaments are open for everyone, but when the NA players don't assign on those tournaments it's their fault.


Weekly tournaments, sure, but there are many invitationals that have a disturbing lack of NA representatives, especially international ones like those sponsored by GG.net and Asian organizations.
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
May 31 2010 20:09 GMT
#231
awful spine crawlers position,sad for TLO
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
May 31 2010 20:10 GMT
#232
Congrats HuK ♥
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
ThatsNoMoon
Profile Joined March 2010
Mexico344 Posts
May 31 2010 20:12 GMT
#233
Are these uploaded somewhere for later viewing?
Unfortunately missed the stream.
Got neurosis from Artosis cause you bunker rushed my heart GG baby, lets go crazy cause the game's about to start
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 20:15:50
May 31 2010 20:14 GMT
#234
Ace! This should get HuK his fair share of tourney invites.

I compiled all the replays from the tournament here:
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=621618&st=0
Dis(ease)
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany19 Posts
May 31 2010 20:17 GMT
#235
On June 01 2010 05:12 ThatsNoMoon wrote:
Are these uploaded somewhere for later viewing?
Unfortunately missed the stream.


Yes, they are usually uploaded as VODs the next day: http://tv.esl.eu/de/#/de/vod/ .
omeg
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland19 Posts
May 31 2010 20:23 GMT
#236
Gogo Huk Norris! ;D
Vulnerant omnes, ultima necat.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
May 31 2010 20:24 GMT
#237
very good games.

nice play from both guys, TLO did a few mistakes in the last game that costed him the series.

wp HuK
I am not good with quotes
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 31 2010 20:28 GMT
#238
On June 01 2010 05:14 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Ace! This should get HuK his fair share of tourney invites.

I compiled all the replays from the tournament here:
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=621618&st=0


Thanks, but I can't help but giggle at your statement about tourney invites, since beta is going offline soon. Maybe in a few months
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 31 2010 20:30 GMT
#239
--- Nuked ---
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
May 31 2010 20:51 GMT
#240
Gratz huk, representing vT well
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 31 2010 21:13 GMT
#241
Also: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=HuK

Is live and only 72 viewers? Need moar appreciation!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
May 31 2010 22:42 GMT
#242
My favourite two players are Stork and TLO, maybe i'm on to something here?
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
MeDeLLiN64
Profile Joined May 2010
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 16:35:29
May 31 2010 23:24 GMT
#243
Hi,

We are planning to launch an international tournament with a huge cashprize. We need your help for some specific questions. Could you please take 2 minutes to fill this pool form.
http://streamtour.weebly.com/pool-english.html

We thank you in advance for your coopération.

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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
June 01 2010 16:26 GMT
#244
On June 01 2010 07:42 Brad wrote:
My favourite two players are Stork and TLO, maybe i'm on to something here?

Lol, me too. Stork is the #2 King of Silver to YellOw too. :p
Betrayed by EG.BuK
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