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On April 19 2010 12:16 gogogadgetflow wrote:It is odd that I have not had this problem in months of watching livestream nonstop. So more than 1 in 5 people trying to view your stream are simply unable to connect to this specific stream like me? I understand you have no control over it - it seems like livestream is screwing you guys over somehow. Hopefully lz streams the main event 
Day9 has has extensive problems and has got LIvestream to tell him on the phone they have been having problems lately. It's not just us...
Why do you think the TL event was cast on glhf.tv? Cause LIvstream wouldn't work....
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On April 19 2010 12:18 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 12:16 gogogadgetflow wrote:It is odd that I have not had this problem in months of watching livestream nonstop. So more than 1 in 5 people trying to view your stream are simply unable to connect to this specific stream like me? I understand you have no control over it - it seems like livestream is screwing you guys over somehow. Hopefully lz streams the main event Day9 has has extensive problems and has got LIvestream to tell him on the phone they have been having problems lately. It's not just us... Why do you think the TL event was cast on glhf.tv? Cause LIvstream wouldn't work....
Sorry. I have suffered through many laggy casts and even ones that freeze up or cut off randomly. but tonight when I click on your stream I disconnect within a few seconds and my browser freezes up. When I click on another stream it plays normally. I guess this is just me then.
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On April 19 2010 12:24 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Sorry. I have suffered through many laggy casts and even ones that freeze up or cut off randomly. but tonight when I click on your stream I disconnect within a few seconds and my browser freezes up. When I click on another stream it plays normally. I guess this is just me then.
I hear your pain, but we are at the mercy of Livestream. Some days is perfect and we have a 93%+ sync, some days 80% is as good as we can get...
FInal has a monster rig with a solid connection, there is not much more we can do at this point...
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On April 19 2010 12:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 12:24 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Sorry. I have suffered through many laggy casts and even ones that freeze up or cut off randomly. but tonight when I click on your stream I disconnect within a few seconds and my browser freezes up. When I click on another stream it plays normally. I guess this is just me then. I hear your pain, but we are at the mercy of Livestream. Some days is perfect and we have a 93%+ sync, some days 80% is as good as we can get... FInal has a monster rig with a solid connection, there is not much more we can do at this point...
You guys should jump off livestream before things get worse. The other services have more stability and at least the ability of ustream having the vods IMMEDIATELY available would be insanely good. Love the iCCup casts hope you guys make the move.
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No man. I hear your pain. You guys put a metric shit-ton of work into providing great content and lack a reliable way to provide it. Keep going hard though.
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definitely epic plays by qxc in that first game!!
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On April 19 2010 13:39 Antimage wrote:
definitely epic plays by qxc in that first game!!
Seriously he showed yet again why he has probably the best TvT on the US server. Lz must play 100% perfect this next game to walk away with a win!
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Wow amzing night! Great games by all!
+ Show Spoiler +QXC gets the next shot at Sheth's Championship for sure
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You guys ask for some comments and suggestions so I shall throw some out there. Please do not take offense to anything, I'm intending to be constructive from a spectator standpoint.
Regarding Livestream
Please turn chat off or have it on slow mode. Livestream is having enough problems as is, but I continuously get a choppy stream resulting in me having to refresh (good for the advertisers=D).
I don't see the point of having the chat up because most of the conversation that is taking place isn't half as important as listening to the commentators and watching the stream. A good alternative is to use IRC.
Realcun
Very good commentator. Good quality mic and concise comments.
Josecki
Mic quality could improve. Not a fan of hearing you munch and talk with food in your mouth. Otherwise, good commentary.
Overall Commentary
Here are a few issues I've had with the commentary.
1. Calling a "gg" prematurely because of 1 event. For example, the QXC vs. LzGaMeR game on Metalopolis tonight, QXC's hellion killed a lot of Lz's scvs and you immediately said the game was over, when in fact there was 15 minutes more of gameplay with other interesting decisions made by the players and action.
How am I, as the spectator, supposed to stay interested when the commentators who I'm relying on to give me fair gameplay analysis say the game is won when clearly it isn't? I'm saying this because it can be really uninteresting to watch the rest of the game because of comments like this.
2. Take a break! You guys cast a lot of games, back to back. Have an interlude to get some food/water, rest your eyes and bask in the previous game. Everyone wins =D!
3. Refrain from negative opinions.
"This build is bad."
"This decision is not good."
"This type of strategy won't work"
"In my games this doesn't work."
Etc...
These types of comments from commentators is distasteful. It is tasteless, or should I say the opposite of Tasteless. Really good commentators will make any type of strategy interesting and will really get the audience excited by complimenting on each players build or army composition.
That's a subjective view but I can remember from the same game with QXC and Lz you guys commentated that Tanks were the "worst terran unit ever in a TvT". In fact that is wrong, demonstrated by Chill, Day9, Jinro and many other terran players who have dominated with Tank/Viking compositions.
Point is - Every strategy can be viable. And as a spectator I am cheering for my favorite who I think is creative and interesting. Then the commentators say "This guy," the guy I'm cheering for, "Is making (x) unit and will definitely lose this game," which is really disheartening as a spectator and sometimes a flat out lie by the commentators.
Fantabulous events guys. I've been watching them all and obviously some amazing games coming from these events. ICcup remaining a strong figurehead in the starcraft community is good to see and hope you guys keep continuing to improve in every aspect of casting. Good luck and have fun!
--Doublespeak
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Ah... gg to Win.win... I blundered really hard in game 3 with my stupid (stupid stupid stupid) decision to try and engage your army (somehow I imagined an army with stim = amazing ~_~)... >.<
To the commentators: I didn't forget about the rocks on blistering, but at that point there was nothing I could do anyway. Lost my entire main army thanks to the blunder (woosh).
Nice event guys, keep it up and thanks to iCCup for letting me play~~~
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On April 19 2010 14:30 KawaiiRice wrote:
Ah... gg to Win.win... I blundered really hard in game 3 with my stupid (stupid stupid stupid) decision to try and engage your army (somehow I imagined an army with stim = amazing ~_~)... >.<
To the commentators: I didn't forget about the rocks on blistering, but at that point there was nothing I could do anyway. Lost my entire main army thanks to the blunder (woosh).
Nice event guys, keep it up and thanks to iCCup for letting me play~~~
Great games Kawaii. I look for the people that will bring it 100% not just at win/loss records. You have played amazing and will be back for more events if you want to !
Great games by all!
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Chat has little to nothing to do with lag on LS. Many of the people that go there know each other only from LS, and like to have chat available. Without it I wouldn't watch nearly as much as I do. Even though it sucks a lot.
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Where do you guys post the results?
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On April 19 2010 13:57 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Wow amzing night! Great games by all! + Show Spoiler +QXC gets the next shot at Sheth's Championship for sure
ugh how about you give QXC some other sort of title so we don't have to fight each other >< and then when and if sheth loses, qxc can step up to regain it for us
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On April 19 2010 15:47 iG.CatZ wrote:
ugh how about you give QXC some other sort of title so we don't have to fight each other >< and then when and if sheth loses, qxc can step up to regain it for us
lol. the thing is who else could you really give him? Lz was in the hot seat for another title shot, and QXC smashed him.
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That comment about tanks in TvT annoyed me so much that I turned off the stream completely. I have issues...
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On April 19 2010 23:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 15:47 iG.CatZ wrote:
ugh how about you give QXC some other sort of title so we don't have to fight each other >< and then when and if sheth loses, qxc can step up to regain it for us lol. the thing is who else could you really give him? Lz was in the hot seat for another title shot, and QXC smashed him.
Ask some EGs imo! they got good players for sure... when and if we lose you can pick anyone from our roster to avenge us  ! idk!!! maybe im just being selfish...
do as you wish mastaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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On April 19 2010 23:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 15:47 iG.CatZ wrote:
ugh how about you give QXC some other sort of title so we don't have to fight each other >< and then when and if sheth loses, qxc can step up to regain it for us lol. the thing is who else could you really give him? Lz was in the hot seat for another title shot, and QXC smashed him.
Can we have a clear format on how the standings look and how the championship matches are decided? I'm thinking something like an overall scoreboard for matches...
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