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On April 29 2022 19:13 PiGStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2022 23:17 honorablemacroterran wrote:
Of all the things to call about about their Terran advice I don't think it not beating AI is it. My least favorite things that PiG tells Terrans:
1) Play Mech until Masters
2) Don't make ghosts until Masters
I didn't even know Winter gave advice for Terran but I'm not surprised it's not very good given his not-really-concealed babyrage at Terran in general. Play mech until masters!?!? I literally just did a bronze to GM with only 1 league where I showed full mech play just for variety. It's SC2, a strategy game. I've always encouraged people to play whatever they think is fun. The reason I don't encourage people to make ghosts is most players make ghosts and use them like ass. If you aren't actively trying to get better at using fancy units it's not an effective strategy. I've seen you in my chat a LOT lately so surprised you're making this stuff up
Sorry I missed this until just now after you called me out on your stream. I actually was a lot more active in the chat a few months ago than the past month or so, at least to my recollection.
When I posted that, I thought I remembered you saying that you were going mech in all matchups up to masters when I was watching it live. Maybe it was just in plat or whatever, in which case I'm sorry that I said that mistakenly. I still think that Terran benefits from ghosts well before masters... other GM terrans I've watched have recommended making ghosts as well so it's not just my opinion. I'll continue to respectfully disagree on ghosts being worthwhile.
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On April 29 2022 19:13 PiGStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2022 23:17 honorablemacroterran wrote:
Of all the things to call about about their Terran advice I don't think it not beating AI is it. My least favorite things that PiG tells Terrans:
1) Play Mech until Masters
2) Don't make ghosts until Masters
I didn't even know Winter gave advice for Terran but I'm not surprised it's not very good given his not-really-concealed babyrage at Terran in general. Play mech until masters!?!? I literally just did a bronze to GM with only 1 league where I showed full mech play just for variety. It's SC2, a strategy game. I've always encouraged people to play whatever they think is fun. The reason I don't encourage people to make ghosts is most players make ghosts and use them like ass. If you aren't actively trying to get better at using fancy units it's not an effective strategy. I've seen you in my chat a LOT lately so surprised you're making this stuff up
Geez pig, why do you have to make this thread about you?
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On April 30 2022 09:35 honorablemacroterran wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2022 19:13 PiGStarcraft wrote:On April 18 2022 23:17 honorablemacroterran wrote:
Of all the things to call about about their Terran advice I don't think it not beating AI is it. My least favorite things that PiG tells Terrans:
1) Play Mech until Masters
2) Don't make ghosts until Masters
I didn't even know Winter gave advice for Terran but I'm not surprised it's not very good given his not-really-concealed babyrage at Terran in general. Play mech until masters!?!? I literally just did a bronze to GM with only 1 league where I showed full mech play just for variety. It's SC2, a strategy game. I've always encouraged people to play whatever they think is fun. The reason I don't encourage people to make ghosts is most players make ghosts and use them like ass. If you aren't actively trying to get better at using fancy units it's not an effective strategy. I've seen you in my chat a LOT lately so surprised you're making this stuff up Sorry I missed this until just now after you called me out on your stream. I actually was a lot more active in the chat a few months ago than the past month or so, at least to my recollection. When I posted that, I thought I remembered you saying that you were going mech in all matchups up to masters when I was watching it live. Maybe it was just in plat or whatever, in which case I'm sorry that I said that mistakenly. I still think that Terran benefits from ghosts well before masters... other GM terrans I've watched have recommended making ghosts as well so it's not just my opinion. I'll continue to respectfully disagree on ghosts being worthwhile.
I never said they weren't worthwhile - I said if you aren't actively trying to get better at using them and instead they're distracting you from controlling your army appropriately, then they're a detriment. This is a specific and common use-case. I have not said "never make ghosts" as a blanket statement. I pretty much never make blanket statements. There is always clarifying information and context. SC2 is a game with many tools and ways of playing and involves people using their own critical thinking at all times. I am not a prophet that tells people how to play the game, I just give advice on how to improve and techniques for focusing that improvement.
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On April 16 2022 05:24 fps_daniel AKA Xpert wrote:Alright friends, its been 1 month to the day I made this post. Back then very hard difficulty was just too hard for me, so hard that I coudnt resist making a post about it here. I told you I would keep you guys updated, I told you guys i woudnt give up and my promises are golden. Now one month later I have the ability/build order to win vs the very hard elite pretty convincing. So yea, so this a big milestone and we all togheter made this happen! https://drop.sc/replay/21330101Thats how i do it.
It's so great to see you're still going at it and weren't discouraged by all the advice people gave you, my sincerest congratulations to Bronze 1! Sounds like you're having a blast, so keep it up and you'll rush towards Gold and beyond in no time.
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No bro, post like yours kept me going! Your contribution wont be left unnoticed!! Keep it up
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On May 04 2022 19:01 fps_daniel AKA Xpert wrote:
No bro, post like yours kept me going! Your contribution wont be left unnoticed!! Keep it up
Good stuff bro. Seeing totally new players picking up this game gives hope to this 32 year old that I can and should return to actively playing! And I used to be somewhat daunting
It’s really fucking daunting, I kinda went the opposite way and, while I played Quake 3 casually as a kid, trying to play Quake Champions against long term veterans is brutal
Also haha I love how in a thread explicitly calling out Pig it’s another poster he corrects
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We could team up.
But best would just to get somethijg satisfying as a job and family.
These games are a dead end man.
But hit me up! Im GM quaker
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Maybe we can be mates in this wicked world
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Even for us end 20s'ers/32's
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On May 04 2022 23:54 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2022 19:01 fps_daniel AKA Xpert wrote:
No bro, post like yours kept me going! Your contribution wont be left unnoticed!! Keep it up Good stuff bro. Seeing totally new players picking up this game gives hope to this 32 year old that I can and should return to actively playing! And I used to be somewhat daunting It’s really fucking daunting, I kinda went the opposite way and, while I played Quake 3 casually as a kid, trying to play Quake Champions against long term veterans is brutal Also haha I love how in a thread explicitly calling out Pig it’s another poster he corrects
Well im 36 and just started playing again after some month break and it's still both fun and depressing  btw also a former quaker but I quit Quake after I played the Quake Champions Beta because it just felt wrong. But well ladder also does in TvZ 
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