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ZvP At Its Finest: Jaedong vs Patience - Page 2

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[MD]Frostbite
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada292 Posts
April 17 2014 23:38 GMT
#21
On April 18 2014 07:56 Holdenintherye wrote:
To be honest, I'm more impressed by the click the picture to switch thing than the article itself. That's some cool shit.



Yeah that blew my mind, well written though d^_^b
White-Ra, the godfather Protoss
AccoWand
Profile Joined November 2012
354 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 23:42:39
April 17 2014 23:41 GMT
#22
Production value. The roof.

Patience would be one of the big names if i went all the way to final in DH W 2013 Quali --> ezpz group --> killing the lower bracket and yet falling short to 3'rd. One of my favorite runs in sc2 history.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 00:34:34
April 18 2014 00:34 GMT
#23
Scrumptious
uTears
Profile Joined March 2014
Venezuela19 Posts
April 18 2014 01:04 GMT
#24
Best game ever? lol..

there a lot of better games imo, but nice article:D keep the good job.
MADEVENAINTI
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2 Posts
April 18 2014 01:49 GMT
#25
Rofl @ best game ever. Game was boring as F, macro game with no meaningful harass til they both are like 4 bases. 2 big fights later on which were HARDLY exciting.

Good to know sc2 is still sh1t, and lol @ TL for calling this one of the best games ever, JD fanboism or just stupid?


User was banned for this post.
Hayl_Storm
Profile Joined April 2011
The Shire633 Posts
April 18 2014 02:06 GMT
#26
I'm glad that picture of JD I found made it in.
Editor@TL_Hayl // Return of the (Marine)King
Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
April 18 2014 02:19 GMT
#27
Yes, i remember this one! It was heartbreaking b/c I wanted patience to win this one, lol. Helluva series though. The final game was just epic, especially when it was live. Patience had a lot of hype going into this match and thedong had a lot of pressure on him. Overall, one of the most memorable series of the year so far.
What we obtain too cheaply; we esteem too lightly. It is in dearness only that gives everything it's value.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 18 2014 02:36 GMT
#28
On April 18 2014 10:04 uTears wrote:
Best game ever? lol..

there a lot of better games imo, but nice article:D keep the good job.


I think the game was pretty beautiful not the greatest ever in history of ever but honestly, a little embellishment never hurt anyone.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
alexander670
Profile Joined February 2014
Australia14 Posts
April 18 2014 02:39 GMT
#29
I remember watching this game it was early in the morning and I had work tomorrow but it was so worth I remember that final huge engagement were Jaedong barely pulled through it was such a great game it had me on the edge of my seat
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 18 2014 02:59 GMT
#30
On April 18 2014 11:36 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 10:04 uTears wrote:
Best game ever? lol..

there a lot of better games imo, but nice article:D keep the good job.


I think the game was pretty beautiful not the greatest ever in history of ever but honestly, a little embellishment never hurt anyone.


Heres the deal. 90% of games are meaningless drivel. How it is presented is 100% of the reason popular sports/esports exists. Most football games are crap, unless the marketing department/commentators make it look pretty. Most Boxing matches are boring, but its exciting when the narrative of the boxers is presented.

Esports NEEDS more shit like this. It NEEDS more ways of presenting even "okay" games as something exciting. This article did that--this article is a godsend.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 18 2014 03:27 GMT
#31
On April 18 2014 11:59 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 11:36 ZeromuS wrote:
On April 18 2014 10:04 uTears wrote:
Best game ever? lol..

there a lot of better games imo, but nice article:D keep the good job.


I think the game was pretty beautiful not the greatest ever in history of ever but honestly, a little embellishment never hurt anyone.


Heres the deal. 90% of games are meaningless drivel. How it is presented is 100% of the reason popular sports/esports exists. Most football games are crap, unless the marketing department/commentators make it look pretty. Most Boxing matches are boring, but its exciting when the narrative of the boxers is presented.

Esports NEEDS more shit like this. It NEEDS more ways of presenting even "okay" games as something exciting. This article did that--this article is a godsend.



Whoa whoa whoa, this was not an "okay" game. Did you not see the triple-pronged attack with BLord morphs, ultra drops, and army movement??? Did you not the literally constant ling/phoenix movement in the early game and the way each player subtly changed their strategies based on scouting? Did you not see the two INCREDIBLE fights that Jaedong somehow managed to claw an advantage out of? Did you not see the breathtaking, stunning arc of each player's game plan?

There have been some good games after this, especially in the HerO vs. Polt series in the finals of this IEM. But without a doubt, this was one of the most amazing games I've ever watched. There is so much going on the entire game, and this was the first really, truly amazing game played on this map. How can you look at this game and not see these things?

In my opinion, this game DEFINED the PvZ meta on this map. Both players did all of the perfectly right things and played out the mid game perfectly...I look at this game and wonder why anyone would play any other way. It's so beautiful.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Deep Cocoa
Profile Joined June 2013
United States36 Posts
April 18 2014 03:57 GMT
#32
This is not only the best write up I've ever read on TL, but quite possibly one of the best articles ever. Great read, I feel like I was watching the damn game. Now I'm gonna go watch the game lmao.
"Being a child is like nothing. It's only being. Later, when we think about it, we make it into youth." China Miéville
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 18 2014 05:25 GMT
#33
On April 18 2014 12:27 SC2John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 11:59 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On April 18 2014 11:36 ZeromuS wrote:
On April 18 2014 10:04 uTears wrote:
Best game ever? lol..

there a lot of better games imo, but nice article:D keep the good job.


I think the game was pretty beautiful not the greatest ever in history of ever but honestly, a little embellishment never hurt anyone.


Heres the deal. 90% of games are meaningless drivel. How it is presented is 100% of the reason popular sports/esports exists. Most football games are crap, unless the marketing department/commentators make it look pretty. Most Boxing matches are boring, but its exciting when the narrative of the boxers is presented.

Esports NEEDS more shit like this. It NEEDS more ways of presenting even "okay" games as something exciting. This article did that--this article is a godsend.



Whoa whoa whoa, this was not an "okay" game. Did you not see the triple-pronged attack with BLord morphs, ultra drops, and army movement??? Did you not the literally constant ling/phoenix movement in the early game and the way each player subtly changed their strategies based on scouting? Did you not see the two INCREDIBLE fights that Jaedong somehow managed to claw an advantage out of? Did you not see the breathtaking, stunning arc of each player's game plan?

There have been some good games after this, especially in the HerO vs. Polt series in the finals of this IEM. But without a doubt, this was one of the most amazing games I've ever watched. There is so much going on the entire game, and this was the first really, truly amazing game played on this map. How can you look at this game and not see these things?

In my opinion, this game DEFINED the PvZ meta on this map. Both players did all of the perfectly right things and played out the mid game perfectly...I look at this game and wonder why anyone would play any other way. It's so beautiful.


Well, I was being much more broad when I said that 90% of all games are crap. This specific game was absolutely amazing and anyone who dislikes it obviously either didn't watch it or didn't *watch* it.

However, I know for a fact that a well written battle report will make even the dumbest one sided games sound like the stuff of legend. Heck, even a 4-0 roflstomp can, with enough eloquence, be made to sound like the most exciting moment of the year. This is not because Battlereports are better than live games, it is because battlereports can show you what was actually happening in a game. So not only do you know *why* the match was 4-0 but you can see what mistakes the players made that caused him to go 0-4, you can see just what the winning player saw that allowed him to go 4-0.

Its a tough task, and but damn its an absolutely sexy product.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
April 18 2014 05:44 GMT
#34
Sick artcile! Great game! The Tyrant games are most exciting.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
Metak
Profile Joined August 2011
296 Posts
April 18 2014 07:48 GMT
#35
Nice to see these back, cool read.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
April 18 2014 09:11 GMT
#36
is this really a greatest game of all time level ?
this is a quote
Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
April 18 2014 09:36 GMT
#37
On April 18 2014 11:36 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 10:04 uTears wrote:
Best game ever? lol..

there a lot of better games imo, but nice article:D keep the good job.


I think the game was pretty beautiful not the greatest ever in history of ever but honestly, a little embellishment never hurt anyone.



^^ Why let the truth get in the way of a good story!
The poor are thieves, beggars and whores, the rich are politicians, solicitors and courtesans...
uTears
Profile Joined March 2014
Venezuela19 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 15:19:50
April 18 2014 15:15 GMT
#38
On April 18 2014 11:36 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 10:04 uTears wrote:
Best game ever? lol..

there a lot of better games imo, but nice article:D keep the good job.


I think the game was pretty beautiful not the greatest ever in history of ever but honestly, a little embellishment never hurt anyone.


the game was good, dont get me wrong. but is just a bored macro game, with no good harass(just the phoenix one by Patience) or even good fights.. they just sit in base and wait for 200/200 and try to do smth against full upgrades armys.. its was bored to me.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 18 2014 16:32 GMT
#39
Every game that Jaedong wins is the greatest of all time. (:
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
April 18 2014 17:06 GMT
#40
Thanks TL Strategy Team

I haven't watched SC2 for a while now and it took some getting into. An ignorant person won't see the beauty in this game and even for an experienced person there's something to admire on second and third watch.

+ Show Spoiler [feedback] +
The perspective concept is cool. I thought it could be a bit stronger still (more bold perhaps) where you'd exemplify information being hidden. Patience's piece was written a bit more .. negative (losing side) through out, but that was perhaps the reality.
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