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ZvP At Its Finest: Jaedong vs Patience - Page 4

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vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
April 21 2014 20:14 GMT
#61
Awesome!
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 21 2014 20:32 GMT
#62
On April 22 2014 05:06 SC2John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 02:37 r691175002 wrote:
I'm personally not a fan of any game whose first engagement occurs at the 25 minute mark.

Even more so when I get tricked into watching all 25 minutes of singleplayer macro because TL called it the best game of the year.

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 03:48 SpawnMoarOverlords wrote:
It's not because there's nothing dying that there's no interaction between the 2 players.



^This. Just because there isn't some kind of insane back and forth battle doesn't mean the game wasn't really interesting. If anything, the lack of actual confrontation is the side effect of hundreds of minor interactions that are happening between players. The second most striking thing about this game is the game plan each player employs: The fact that Jaedong opens double upgraded lings into a potential ultralisk timing into a gigagntic BL/ultra army into multi-pronged harass with pressure into a muta switch is just gorgeous; Patience opens super heavy +1 phoenix harassment into a primarily ground army into a huge air army to counter the muta switch, and it's beautiful.

The transitions are seamless and make so much sense. Just because you don't see a ton of back and forth battles doesn't mean there wasn't anything going on. This game is super densely packed, I can't see it another way.


Side effect of the Infestor/Brood era where people automatically assume <no fighting> = <no action>

The game was beautiful, messy, and felt like it could go either way up until the last moments.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
April 21 2014 21:16 GMT
#63
Wish I couldn't tell the bias from the start towards JD, it made it pretty obvious who must have won
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
April 21 2014 22:39 GMT
#64
Somebody loves Jaedong!
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
April 21 2014 22:40 GMT
#65
This may be the most impressive article on TL yet. Great job guys.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 21 2014 22:41 GMT
#66
On April 22 2014 06:16 KillerSOS wrote:
Wish I couldn't tell the bias from the start towards JD, it made it pretty obvious who must have won


I read the Patience viewpoint first before even realizing who won the game. It took me reading the posts to realize there was a 2nd battle report!
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
April 21 2014 22:58 GMT
#67
This was pretty sweet.

Really like the perspective switching and the detailed analysis.

More please.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
April 22 2014 00:56 GMT
#68
this is so epic!
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
Kaizen[7]
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States86 Posts
April 22 2014 02:36 GMT
#69
Really well written! Thank you TL!
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
Jowj
Profile Joined June 2012
United States248 Posts
April 22 2014 03:05 GMT
#70
On April 22 2014 07:39 lowercase wrote:
Somebody loves Jaedong!

You have found my secret passion.
Strategy
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 22 2014 04:22 GMT
#71
On April 22 2014 12:05 Jowj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 07:39 lowercase wrote:
Somebody loves Jaedong!

You have found my secret passion.


My passion is overt.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
NeuroticPsychosis
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States322 Posts
April 22 2014 05:02 GMT
#72
JD <3
intricate, elaborate, articulate, crystallize, conceptualize, synthesize
Zygno
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria276 Posts
April 22 2014 13:50 GMT
#73
I remember watching this game and constantly thinking that JD had lost it, but in the end he managed to win. This game was insane, thanks TL for the battle-report!
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
April 22 2014 14:45 GMT
#74
Wonderful write-up, keep em coming!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Glenn313
Profile Joined August 2011
United States475 Posts
April 22 2014 20:17 GMT
#75
Jaedong! :D
Hey man
Athaliel
Profile Joined April 2014
6 Posts
April 23 2014 12:30 GMT
#76
Too one sided an article to be even remotly interessing. Also, the macro hatch was at his third, not his fourth, and patience had 6 stargates, 3 were building and 3 were already done (1 then 2 then 3), the observer showed it as the casters made the mistake...

I only liked this game for the dynamics we saw in the late game, with the close bases they try to take, interesting positions i believe, should be used in future map, and of course the second fight from jaedong (wtf).
EndOfLineTv
Profile Joined February 2011
United States741 Posts
April 25 2014 14:42 GMT
#77
This was amazing, TY!
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