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4M TvZ Part 2: The American Way - Page 3

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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 03:14:59
October 22 2013 03:11 GMT
#41
On October 22 2013 06:54 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 06:32 Sketch123 wrote:
I was searching through VODs looking for inspiration for another article when I saw Polt lose an army in a weird way and then win the game shortly afterward.

Can we have a link please?


It is not exactly the same story, but be amazed by Polt : he loses his whole fucking economy, faces DRG who has a huge bank, and makes a comeback out of thin air :


Who is casting with TB? He sounds familiar.. Wolfe?
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
October 22 2013 03:19 GMT
#42
On October 22 2013 12:11 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 06:54 fezvez wrote:
On October 22 2013 06:32 Sketch123 wrote:
I was searching through VODs looking for inspiration for another article when I saw Polt lose an army in a weird way and then win the game shortly afterward.

Can we have a link please?


It is not exactly the same story, but be amazed by Polt : he loses his whole fucking economy, faces DRG who has a huge bank, and makes a comeback out of thin air :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q3lG_g_9ME&t=12m30s

Who is casting with TB? He sounds familiar.. Wolfe?


Yep.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Strangways
Profile Joined October 2013
United States13 Posts
October 22 2013 03:40 GMT
#43
"It is not exactly the same story, but be amazed by Polt : he loses his whole fucking economy, faces DRG who has a huge bank, and makes a comeback out of thin air : "

Along similar lines, I watch Polt's games, compare them to how I play, and think that this sort of guide can basically be summed up as:

1) Polt is awesome
2) You, on the other hand, suck at Starcraft
3) That is all
[CCSRAM] BaoQuan
Profile Joined August 2013
United States96 Posts
October 22 2013 04:30 GMT
#44
In most of the WCS games, Polt seemed to be behind, but made amazing comebacks each time.
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
October 22 2013 04:53 GMT
#45
On October 22 2013 13:30 [CCSRAM] BaoQuan wrote:
In most of the WCS games, Polt seemed to be behind, but made amazing comebacks each time.


This is actually a quantum quirk of the universe, resulting in the following paradox:

If Polt is behind, he's actually ahead. The only way to beat Polt is to put yourself so behind that he's behind, which then puts him ahead and... wait, shit.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13404 Posts
October 22 2013 05:12 GMT
#46
On October 22 2013 12:40 Strangways wrote:
"It is not exactly the same story, but be amazed by Polt : he loses his whole fucking economy, faces DRG who has a huge bank, and makes a comeback out of thin air : "

Along similar lines, I watch Polt's games, compare them to how I play, and think that this sort of guide can basically be summed up as:

1) Polt is awesome
2) You, on the other hand, suck at Starcraft
3) That is all


You didn't read the whole thing did you? Its not that polt is good and everyone else is bad, its that his ability to create space on the map and control it is what wins. If you learn how to do even a portion of what he does, and have a gameplan like he does, you will win much much more.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
wensulin93
Profile Joined September 2013
China4 Posts
October 22 2013 06:54 GMT
#47
lol,POLT change to be a American,so does Jaedong? America IMBA
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
October 22 2013 07:22 GMT
#48
Polt is such a beast...This guide is incredible.

Much thanks.

Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
October 22 2013 07:48 GMT
#49
I am so detached from the scene....My first thought was "Why would TL have an article about 4M (meaning Man,Machine,Material, Method), it doesnt make sense". Then it came to me, its something about sc2....but what...i couldnt grasp it, honestly. Sad times.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Juice!
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium295 Posts
October 22 2013 07:51 GMT
#50
It's a great guide, don't get me wrong. But it feels funny when you say "the american way' when he is korean ..
Second place is just a fancy term for loser
xenoZhang
Profile Joined July 2012
China142 Posts
October 22 2013 07:58 GMT
#51
looking forward for your TVP guide!
great work
toss is op is op is op ( ̄へ ̄) || Slayers MMA / BOXER / NESTEA / PARTING / DRG / F91 / COMM
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
October 22 2013 08:18 GMT
#52
On October 22 2013 16:51 Juice! wrote:
It's a great guide, don't get me wrong. But it feels funny when you say "the american way' when he is korean ..


Americans decided to adopt Polt as their new supreme leader <3
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 22 2013 08:23 GMT
#53
Nice guide, but somehow it feels as if the strategy is not feasible for me. What is the minimum amount of apm needed for this? ^^"
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1923 Posts
October 22 2013 08:32 GMT
#54
On October 22 2013 02:04 vaderseven wrote:
Now I can work full time on my TvP article! Hope you guys enjoy what we did with this one!

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On October 22 2013 02:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Needs more protoss guides D:

Great writeup as always, TL strategy with another quality article.


The fact the this was posted means that I have started to achieve success in my war of terran article count vs protoss article count.

boo-yA


Very nice, indeed! Also I'm looking forward to some TvP guide to deal with those pesky deathballs better
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 22 2013 09:19 GMT
#55
On October 22 2013 05:25 Darthsanta13 wrote:
I'm just a protoss but this is still awesome. I love in depth analysis like this. I'll have to read it when I get home.



offtopic: I just read "I'm just a protoss.." with queen's bohemian rhapsody melody in my mind.. :D
AsaZZang
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany30 Posts
October 22 2013 10:55 GMT
#56
but but but.... Polt is from Germany ....
iLoVeLiquidHerO <3
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
October 22 2013 11:30 GMT
#57
On October 22 2013 19:55 AsaZZang wrote:
but but but.... Polt is from Germany ....


I thought that was Mvp
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
October 22 2013 11:30 GMT
#58
On October 22 2013 03:13 Chaggi wrote:
Someone needs to do a TvP Polt style, he does it better than anyone else out there.


but he lost to first 2x at last wcs finals with like zero chances. polts tvp vs top tosses is very bad imho...
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
October 22 2013 12:04 GMT
#59
On October 22 2013 20:30 jeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 03:13 Chaggi wrote:
Someone needs to do a TvP Polt style, he does it better than anyone else out there.


but he lost to first 2x at last wcs finals with like zero chances. polts tvp vs top tosses is very bad imho...


Polt has a unique style of TvP of basically multipronged hit squads. Compared to what other Terran's do which is mostly posturing, Polt does a lot of doom drops that is interesting to see and much more fun to play. And really, one series doesn't really mean that much in the grand scheme of things. He's been really damn good in every matchup for the last few months.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 22 2013 12:16 GMT
#60
On October 22 2013 21:04 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 20:30 jeri wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:13 Chaggi wrote:
Someone needs to do a TvP Polt style, he does it better than anyone else out there.


but he lost to first 2x at last wcs finals with like zero chances. polts tvp vs top tosses is very bad imho...


Polt has a unique style of TvP of basically multipronged hit squads. Compared to what other Terran's do which is mostly posturing, Polt does a lot of doom drops that is interesting to see and much more fun to play. And really, one series doesn't really mean that much in the grand scheme of things. He's been really damn good in every matchup for the last few months.


Actually, I think it is just a stylist match up issue vs First. First is really good in terms of splitting his army and defending vs multi pronged attacks. His weakest seems to be positioning for big engagement. Thus First is bad vs SCV pulls and that is why First has been losing a lot of TvPs recently.
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