EPTSpoiler tags where?
put one before the games then put each individual game in its own spoiler, ideally.
so
Games
start spoiler
Game 1:
start spoiler
game info
end spoiler
Game 2
start spoiler
game info
end spoiler
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end spoiler
Survey of Forge Expands vs Zerg in GSL - Page 2
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khanofmongols
542 Posts
put one before the games then put each individual game in its own spoiler, ideally. so Games start spoiler Game 1: start spoiler game info end spoiler Game 2 start spoiler game info end spoiler ... end spoiler | ||
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Boony
Australia87 Posts
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Zedders
Canada450 Posts
On July 03 2011 15:24 Spiders wrote: I'm curious if any other zerg has attempted to do the lair spinecrawler rush that nestea did vs anypro when the toss does a forge expand and has the nexus as a part of their wall. It seems like a free win to me if you opened speedling expand but no one does it so i must be missing something It's not a free when but it can get you ahead...but definetly NOT a free win. It is easily stopped however by a few zealots since zlots>lings ofc. Also fast lair like that is uncommon vs forge FE as it'll set you far behind if it does no damage. Usually getting a 3rd is safest. But taking risks=high reward | ||
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Zedders
Canada450 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:05 khanofmongols wrote: put one before the games then put each individual game in its own spoiler, ideally. so Games start spoiler Game 1: start spoiler game info end spoiler Game 2 start spoiler game info end spoiler ... end spoiler Yeah i spent a good part of the post scrollling d own seeing how long it is. Most people like seeing the entire OP by scrolling through it to see whatt they're getting into | ||
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:18 Zedders wrote: Yeah i spent a good part of the post scrollling d own seeing how long it is. Most people like seeing the entire OP by scrolling through it to see whatt they're getting into Better? | ||
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
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CuHz
United States354 Posts
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Geiko
France1967 Posts
For example forge at 17 if they scout zerg first and gas before pool opening. Cannon before gate if close position and early pool, etc... Good compilation, definitely usefull for everyone who wishes to study this PvZ style. | ||
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
Feel like doing the ZvP version ? :p | ||
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iChau
United States1210 Posts
On July 03 2011 17:34 CuHz wrote: i wouldnt recommend opening like this on ladder because zergs like to 6 pool on tal darim/ shakuras, etc Alot. and sometimes your probe wont always scout it first and then ull be shit out of luck. Forge first hard-counters a 6-pool. | ||
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leBIGcrab
France313 Posts
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Mungosh
365 Posts
If anything 6-pool on tal'darim is a counter to FFE | ||
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Azus
United States9 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
No it's not. 6pool is a counter to forge FE. You really can't get your wall off before the 6 lings come because you're not walling at your main ramp but at your nat expo. And even if you could wall, your buildings would fall because your cannon is going to take too long. What I've seen most people do (eg. Kiwikaki vs Moman on Terminus in the NASL Playoffs Game 1) is build a pylon in-base and a cannon in mineral line, sac the Forge and first pylon and just play from a disadvantage. | ||
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
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siri
Portugal129 Posts
if you want to play safe the forge -> nexus if you are going to scout him last positions then you may want to start a pylon in your main just in case if he is 6 pooling so forge->pylon->nexus and thats it | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
It would be interesting to know why each player did what they did. Obviously some of them are just done blindly, but i wonder upon scouting what did they see that dictated their build | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13407 Posts
On July 04 2011 04:46 FairForever wrote: No it's not. 6pool is a counter to forge FE. You really can't get your wall off before the 6 lings come because you're not walling at your main ramp but at your nat expo. And even if you could wall, your buildings would fall because your cannon is going to take too long. What I've seen most people do (eg. Kiwikaki vs Moman on Terminus in the NASL Playoffs Game 1) is build a pylon in-base and a cannon in mineral line, sac the Forge and first pylon and just play from a disadvantage. Its not from disadvantage at all. You will have way more probes because the lings couldn't do enough damage thanks to that cannon fighting with your probes. They have no queen and six drones, there is no way they can outproduce you while you decide to build stuff and keep a probe advantage. | ||
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