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OoOo
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany126 Posts
July 08 2011 16:28 GMT
#5041
On July 09 2011 01:17 bardtown wrote:
In the first seconds of the game, should I send SCVs to mineral line first or start SCV production first?

i think its better to build the scw first, since for example day9 does it if im not wrong
in general the difference is so smal it doesnt realy matter
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
July 08 2011 16:41 GMT
#5042
On July 09 2011 00:32 Ajaco92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 23:45 Catchafire2000 wrote:
what is the BO for a perfect 4 gate in pvp?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/4_Gate

--

I've been thinking about this lately; when you go templars vs bio terrans, they always want to EMP your templars, right? What about hallucinating a bunch of HT's, send them to an exposed spot, to draw EMP attention?

My question is; have anyone tried this, or seen that this have been done? I think it should work, as very few terrans bring a raven with their army, or scans regulary before an engagement.


Liquipedia link is not the perfect PvP 4 gate.

Hallucinating HTs may work, but majority of people I play always scan. Also when it gets to mid-late game terran always has many ghosts for many EMPs so a few hallucinations dont really make much of a difference.
Porneus
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland68 Posts
July 08 2011 16:45 GMT
#5043
On July 08 2011 20:30 Sated wrote:
If you're going for a 3gate expand against Terran, when should you put down the robotics bay? I mean, you can't scout if the Terran is getting 2gas for Banshees as marines kill the probe before that, so all you know is that the Terran has 1gas and could be doing ??? so I assume you need to get an observer kinda early if you're doing this? Or is it better to just gas steal?


Zeal + stalker poke will tell you all that you wanna know, in this case bunker=tech so probably cloakshees. Gas steal is good if you manage to keep probe alive until 2nd marine pops, this usually indicates tech, never met T who would normally go 2 rines and then addon, it's always just one.
http://sc2ranks.com/eu/275634/gsbPorneus
xHassassin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States270 Posts
July 08 2011 17:00 GMT
#5044
What should my addons be for my additional rax?

I know that first 3 should be 1 reactor + 2 tech lab, and I have the economy to add 2 more while getting starport tech after my expansion comes up. Should I get 2x tech lab or 1 reactor 1 tech lab?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 08 2011 17:03 GMT
#5045
On July 09 2011 02:00 xHassassin wrote:
What should my addons be for my additional rax?

I know that first 3 should be 1 reactor + 2 tech lab, and I have the economy to add 2 more while getting starport tech after my expansion comes up. Should I get 2x tech lab or 1 reactor 1 tech lab?


What matchup/Compositions/state of the game are you talking about. It all depends. I assume you are talking about Bio TvP since TvT and TvZ generally favours only one techlab. It really depends on what composition. Generally sticking to a ratio of 1:2/3 works out alright but it's a bit of a deep question.
alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
July 08 2011 17:58 GMT
#5046
if an infestor neurals one of my units and i neural the infestor with one of my own, do i control the unit the infestor neuraled?
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 19:52:04
July 08 2011 19:51 GMT
#5047
On July 09 2011 02:58 alpenrahm wrote:
if an infestor neurals one of my units and i neural the infestor with one of my own, do i control the unit the infestor neuraled?

I think it just cancels the neural on the first infestor.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
H.k[D]
Profile Joined April 2010
United States260 Posts
July 08 2011 23:31 GMT
#5048
if you see a ton of banelings, is it cost efficient to blink statlkers one at a time in the middle?
Hyyde
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States43 Posts
July 08 2011 23:48 GMT
#5049
As Zerg what is the most effective way to break a tank line?
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
July 08 2011 23:55 GMT
#5050
On July 09 2011 08:48 Hyyde wrote:
As Zerg what is the most effective way to break a tank line?

Most important thing to remember is never engage it mid-game. Terran armies are not something you can simply counter, composition wise, and kill. Consistently being active with your mutalisks should keep you safe until hive tech, where you can access the best way to break siege lines: brood lords. Infestor/brood-lord should be your late game goal, simply range the line with broods and keep them safe with fungal.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
Erzz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada184 Posts
July 09 2011 01:07 GMT
#5051
I've been playing all the races a little bit the past couple weeks. I have no idea which race to focus on, but I know I don't want to go random.
Which race should I play?
First person to reply with a (single) race decides my fate for the next couple months.
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
July 09 2011 01:22 GMT
#5052
On July 09 2011 10:07 Erzz wrote:
I've been playing all the races a little bit the past couple weeks. I have no idea which race to focus on, but I know I don't want to go random.
Which race should I play?
First person to reply with a (single) race decides my fate for the next couple months.

This isn't 4chan, you might want to put thought into it rather than post/make decisions like this.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
Erzz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada184 Posts
July 09 2011 01:34 GMT
#5053
On July 09 2011 10:22 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 10:07 Erzz wrote:
I've been playing all the races a little bit the past couple weeks. I have no idea which race to focus on, but I know I don't want to go random.
Which race should I play?
First person to reply with a (single) race decides my fate for the next couple months.

This isn't 4chan, you might want to put thought into it rather than post/make decisions like this.


Well my skill with each race is pretty equal. The races are all balanced enough. I like/dislike things in each race, they all even out to me. I have no favourite race. After changing my mind repeatedly, I decided to leave it up to some one/thing else.
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
July 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#5054
On July 09 2011 10:34 Erzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 10:22 Soluhwin wrote:
On July 09 2011 10:07 Erzz wrote:
I've been playing all the races a little bit the past couple weeks. I have no idea which race to focus on, but I know I don't want to go random.
Which race should I play?
First person to reply with a (single) race decides my fate for the next couple months.

This isn't 4chan, you might want to put thought into it rather than post/make decisions like this.


Well my skill with each race is pretty equal. The races are all balanced enough. I like/dislike things in each race, they all even out to me. I have no favourite race. After changing my mind repeatedly, I decided to leave it up to some one/thing else.

Pick a number, 1 2 or 3.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
July 09 2011 02:05 GMT
#5055
On July 09 2011 10:07 Erzz wrote:
I've been playing all the races a little bit the past couple weeks. I have no idea which race to focus on, but I know I don't want to go random.
Which race should I play?
First person to reply with a (single) race decides my fate for the next couple months.

Play protoss
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 02:09:59
July 09 2011 02:09 GMT
#5056
So, in the end -- what is the best for a player with low APM as Zerg against Protoss/Terran:

Ling/Infestor/Roach or Muta/Ling/Roach/Bling
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
July 09 2011 02:10 GMT
#5057
On July 09 2011 11:05 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 10:07 Erzz wrote:
I've been playing all the races a little bit the past couple weeks. I have no idea which race to focus on, but I know I don't want to go random.
Which race should I play?
First person to reply with a (single) race decides my fate for the next couple months.

Play protoss

beat me to it, don't bother with my post then.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
July 09 2011 02:13 GMT
#5058
On July 09 2011 11:09 Fruscainte wrote:
So, in the end -- what is the best for a player with low APM as Zerg against Protoss/Terran:

Ling/Infestor/Roach or Muta/Ling/Roach/Bling

Both options are the same really. Most APM of any match goes into the macro management and not into army control. Honestly, it feels like the compositions you posted are match-up specific, the first for ZvP and the second for ZvT. Concentrate more on playing to your opponent, and crafting a style that you are comfortable with, don't worry if you are a slow player it shouldn't make much of a different between the two styles.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
Animostas
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States568 Posts
July 09 2011 06:00 GMT
#5059
Why do more Protoss players opt for a Zealot/Stalker/Colossus composition rather than Zealot/Phoenix/Colossus in PvT? It seems that Phoenixes have a lot more usage as they destroy Vikings and can force turrets.
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
July 09 2011 07:00 GMT
#5060
On July 09 2011 15:00 Animostas wrote:
Why do more Protoss players opt for a Zealot/Stalker/Colossus composition rather than Zealot/Phoenix/Colossus in PvT? It seems that Phoenixes have a lot more usage as they destroy Vikings and can force turrets.

It's a matter of cost and timings, in addition to phoenixes just not being good in combat. Going for both a robo and stargate, in addition to producing 300/200 colossus and 150/100 phoenixes is just not smooth. In addition, any time you choose a tech path it opens vulnerabilities, which is why one must be safe with a gate way army before the colossus transition, and at that point producing phoenixes is just silly. Several other:factors too: stalkers are also pretty good against vikings and are basically a universal problem solver, whereas a phoenix can only hit air or what it decides to lift. Phoenixes are made of paper, so they die really fast. Colossus, stalkers and zealots all share upgrades. etc.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
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