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PvT Coaching with Response (w/pvz bonus)

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Khaladas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States223 Posts
January 22 2011 00:29 GMT
#1
As most of you have seen, i've been getting coaching sessions with Response and InControl to try and get better, this is just another one in that series.

This is my second coaching with Response, he went extra long with me which I was grateful for.

The video is in 2 parts because my internet decided to crap out part way through.

We start with several PvT games where he critiques my play and we make adjustments along the way. He gave me lots of great tips and lots of stuff to work on, general build strategies, etc. I'm sure lots of people suffer from the same issues I am fighting, so hopefully people find it useful.

We do a little bit of PvZ stuff expanding a little on what InControl had worked on with me, mostly things like mid-late game transitions, unit compositions, and other ways to make sure to keep an eye on what zerg is doing so you aren't caught off guard. Finished off with a PvT game and a bit of overall q&a from the stream participants.

Once again, I do have permission from Response to post this, and if you would like to contact him for coaching he is $20 an hour and generally goes long if he can so it's well worth the money. Email his fiancee inluv77@gmail.com to schedule a time, he has accounts on EU, Korea and NA.

Video Part 1
http://livestre.am/A7JM

Video Part 2
http://livestre.am/A8Xw


Video Download Links ( coming soon! )


Replay Download:
http://www.mediafire.com/?f5sila7ec3gdvn5


Enjoy!
time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a bananna
leethon
Profile Joined August 2010
Hungary5 Posts
January 22 2011 00:32 GMT
#2
Cheers! Thank you Khaladas!
mang0Master
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
January 22 2011 02:02 GMT
#3
Nice! Ever since you did the PvZ with Incontrol, I've been waiting for a PvT session. Their coaching is great!
That's ridonkulous!
QQmonster
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada240 Posts
January 22 2011 02:35 GMT
#4
email his fiancee to schedule an appointment *snickers*

*crack*
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
January 22 2011 02:48 GMT
#5
Awesome Khal I watch these as soon as they pop up
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Misto
Profile Joined January 2011
Samoa4 Posts
January 22 2011 03:03 GMT
#6
Finally!! I was waiting for this PvT
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Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 08:00:35
January 22 2011 03:06 GMT
#7
Khaladas you are awesome! Thanks for this!


Edit: What is the dragoon voice that goes along with the sc2gears voice? it's pretty awesome.
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Khaladas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States223 Posts
January 22 2011 20:58 GMT
#8
On January 22 2011 12:06 [NoiSe] wrote:
Khaladas you are awesome! Thanks for this!


Edit: What is the dragoon voice that goes along with the sc2gears voice? it's pretty awesome.


I also have SC2RAR (auto renamer) it might be that? Not sure.
time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a bananna
Tenox
Profile Joined January 2007
Sweden128 Posts
January 22 2011 21:06 GMT
#9
Been checking out your other recorded coaching sessions and I must say they're just an excellent excellent source of information and help to my protoss play, I thank you so so much for doing this.
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philphilphil
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany16 Posts
January 22 2011 22:07 GMT
#10
big thanks again!
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
January 22 2011 23:28 GMT
#11
thank you verymuch, I find this matchup far harder than pvz right now. I have been using the pvz build incontrol showed you but with a 2nd robo after I take my third. I love it and it was very generous of you to upload the videos.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
janlol
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark12 Posts
January 23 2011 02:22 GMT
#12
this is so helpful, thank you!
ChopSuey2
Profile Joined January 2011
United States50 Posts
January 23 2011 20:20 GMT
#13
Yeah this is helpful, but I missed the part where you asked what to get if they go really marine heavy early and mid game, did he say to still mainly get zealot/sentry? And then like try to survive until the colossi are out? Or are the HT better in that situation?
iChau
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1210 Posts
January 23 2011 21:18 GMT
#14
Thanks.

Here's a tip, though: In your last game against Response, you had around 5-6 high templars BRIMMING with energy. Next time you play a T and you have the same situation, use the damn energy. ^_^ You waited so long and soon after Response EMPs every single on of them, where in the duration before that you could have stormed his entire army.
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b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
January 25 2011 07:11 GMT
#15
as always thanks for uploading
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
January 25 2011 12:10 GMT
#16
Thank you so much, cant wait to see this when we can download!!
Live and Let Die!
dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
January 25 2011 20:33 GMT
#17
Thank you so much!
Khaladas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 20:54:10
January 25 2011 20:48 GMT
#18
Still trying to find some time to download the VODs and post them, sorry for the delay on this.
time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a bananna
Mystgun
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong311 Posts
January 27 2011 19:49 GMT
#19
thanks!
bth921
Profile Joined December 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 21:23:39
January 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#20
anyone know of coaching vods like this for terran?
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
February 13 2011 12:34 GMT
#21
On January 26 2011 05:48 Khaladas wrote:
Still trying to find some time to download the VODs and post them, sorry for the delay on this.

Please dont forget about this! I cant watch on livestream, and i'd really love to watch some response coaching action. Thanks again for always recording these
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xzumiex
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium100 Posts
February 13 2011 23:17 GMT
#22
second part removed? :[
airmintie
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1 Post
February 21 2011 19:08 GMT
#23
Thanks for uploading these vids (including the PvZ vid with incontrol).... I am new to this Team Liquid forum....(although I've played SC2 for awhile now) and I am pleasantly surprised at how friendly everyone is on here.


Keep the good work up!
Rowen_
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada13 Posts
February 23 2011 18:31 GMT
#24
Pretty interesting Khaladas, but the part 2 was removed! Can we see it otherwise?
Rowen_
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada13 Posts
February 23 2011 19:16 GMT
#25
I watched your PvP coaching session with Response too and i was wondering if we could download the replays of your games?

I'd like to see how Response did the builds (Korean 4-gate rush and 4-gate rush) because it looked really efficient!!

Thank you
fadestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States605 Posts
February 24 2011 01:45 GMT
#26
Thanks for this. One thing I would recommend is to let him talk more. You frequently went on monologues or cut him off. Although you want to make it clear what your experience, I would just remember that in the end he's getting your money for what he tells you, so it is in your best interest to let him talk as much as you can.

Thanks for the vids tho.
not a hero
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 03:29:27
February 24 2011 03:26 GMT
#27
Coool. Man, I wish I played the game well enough for lessons to make a difference. Actually, what level should a player be before he/she can truly benefit from lessons with someone like Response?
I'm a noob
fadestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 03:48:13
February 24 2011 03:47 GMT
#28
The guy in the video is a Silver/Gold player judging by his play. In any case, there is no minimum level. You probably want to be at a level where the mistake isn't something you could really easily correct yourself, for example, almost anything a Day9 Daily or Newbie Tuesday would help you correct. I think the perfect time to go for lessons if you are interested would be when you are no longer able to make corrections based on your replays and watching instructional videos, and feel like you need an expert's advice.

Alternatively, you could just work through it - as coaching is definitely not a must for getting good at SC2 or any game.
not a hero
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
February 24 2011 04:28 GMT
#29
On February 24 2011 12:47 fadestep wrote:
The guy in the video is a Silver/Gold player judging by his play. In any case, there is no minimum level. You probably want to be at a level where the mistake isn't something you could really easily correct yourself, for example, almost anything a Day9 Daily or Newbie Tuesday would help you correct. I think the perfect time to go for lessons if you are interested would be when you are no longer able to make corrections based on your replays and watching instructional videos, and feel like you need an expert's advice.

Alternatively, you could just work through it - as coaching is definitely not a must for getting good at SC2 or any game.


Well, you totally answered my question. Every skill I'm working on relates back to fundamentals. While the lesson prices are completely reasonable, I sure as hell don't want to spend my money just to hear, "make probes and pylons" and "spend your money". Besides, I've noticed at lower levels (some plat, def gold-bronze) the concept of "match-up" barely comes into play. I beat my opponents by having more sh!t and tech. Guess I gotta wait till diamond/masters.
I'm a noob
longtang
Profile Joined February 2011
United States73 Posts
March 11 2011 16:16 GMT
#30
Love these coaching videos. I am very glad that you kind folks are putting these coaching vids here. I am also getting coach, but my format is a bit different. If I find a way to share, I will share, too.

I am a terran and I am going to take that terran strat in your pvt and use the information in there to make my tvp better.

cheers.
Kill all Protoss. Make them Die. Long Live Terran. Tos is a despicable race b/c they R sneaky & underhanded; Their scouts dont' scout; they Just hide & make pylons
longtang
Profile Joined February 2011
United States73 Posts
March 11 2011 16:21 GMT
#31
If you one gate FE, I am going to try to punish you HARD.
Kill all Protoss. Make them Die. Long Live Terran. Tos is a despicable race b/c they R sneaky & underhanded; Their scouts dont' scout; they Just hide & make pylons
ShadowLegacy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada55 Posts
March 11 2011 17:08 GMT
#32
1 Gate FE is done when the information you are given tells you "Yup go go you can hold it"

But it's pretty safe 1 gate FEing in almost every game. Just drop your chronos in different places.
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