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SugarBear
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States842 Posts
December 16 2010 17:07 GMT
#221
I'm curious to see if going gas first would get you faster stalkers.
Staff vVv Gaming | "So what did you do today?" "Oh not much, mined some minerals, harvested some gas, spawned some zergs, the usual"
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
December 17 2010 08:09 GMT
#222
On December 17 2010 02:07 SugarBear wrote:
I'm curious to see if going gas first would get you faster stalkers.


You don't need fast gas to get stalkers, since you have to get a gateway and a cybercore first, and they cost only minerals.
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
SugarBear
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States842 Posts
December 17 2010 16:39 GMT
#223
On December 17 2010 17:09 Gnial wrote:
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On December 17 2010 02:07 SugarBear wrote:
I'm curious to see if going gas first would get you faster stalkers.


You don't need fast gas to get stalkers, since you have to get a gateway and a cybercore first, and they cost only minerals.


Maybe I just macro really bad, but I've found that when you put down two gateways, pylons, chronoboost probes, and cyber core you end up having trouble getting enough gas for two stalkers and warp gates by the time your second gate finishes.
Staff vVv Gaming | "So what did you do today?" "Oh not much, mined some minerals, harvested some gas, spawned some zergs, the usual"
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-19 20:40:48
December 19 2010 20:39 GMT
#224
On December 18 2010 01:39 SugarBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 17:09 Gnial wrote:
On December 17 2010 02:07 SugarBear wrote:
I'm curious to see if going gas first would get you faster stalkers.


You don't need fast gas to get stalkers, since you have to get a gateway and a cybercore first, and they cost only minerals.


Maybe I just macro really bad, but I've found that when you put down two gateways, pylons, chronoboost probes, and cyber core you end up having trouble getting enough gas for two stalkers and warp gates by the time your second gate finishes.


You may be over-chronoboosting, haha. Check out some of the replays and maybe you can identify some slight differences in your build that may lead to your gas problem. Check out the build orders posted.


On a completely different note - anyone who wants to see this build used in a non-all-in way, that absolutely owns, watch the GSL3 finals.
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
Needalotofhelp
Profile Joined January 2011
5 Posts
January 12 2011 04:16 GMT
#225
This build seems awesome and theres a lot of effort put into it. I think one observer in the army is now ok though. The latest patch allows the observer to now be only 25/75 instead of 50/100, which is awesome! The void rays flux vanes are gone now but they can do 20% more damage to massive units now. That should help :D
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