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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 27 2009 17:18 GMT
#21
I see... a bloody anus
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 27 2009 17:55 GMT
#22
who is this zerg?
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
May 27 2009 18:35 GMT
#23
On May 27 2009 23:55 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2009 23:11 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:18 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:08 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:49 Scaramanga wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:24 Oystein wrote:
Man bisu got some jaw dropping macro, only caught him going above 700 minerals twice (and barely above) and both times during major battles... His multitasking is truly of another world.

best/flash/jd/some of the newer gamers can keep their minerals this low aswell

That don`t change the fact that its some insane macro
Lots of players got great macro for example forgg and Best, but you don`t see them harassing around, fighting a major battle while expoing AND keeping their minerals down. That is whats so sick about Bisu`s macro, he keeps it down while doing a million different things, hence I praised his insane multitasking skills who is probably the best of any progamer. (That`s not saying hes better overall than JD\Flash)

Whenever Bisu tried to outmultitask JD he lost.

Come on that`s just silly to say.

Sure JDs got a good rec vs Bisu and have some really great outmultitasking games like the famous BS game, the othello game(the first time the hydra->muta was used to deal with archonless toss I think?) the first collo game and the Desti games.

However bisu won both the long Andromeda games and the Medusa game via great multitasking.

What? He won the last games on Andro and Medusa due to good defence and timing. That has nothing to do with multitasking. However his harass in both Desti games failed completely.

You along with several others seem to have this notion of multitasking = harass, and if you fail at harass you fail at multitasking. I think you need to go re watch the medusa game, watch how in the big center battle Bisu is picking off overlords at 9 while charging 2 clumps of hydras in the center and storming them to death (this removing a good portion of JDs hydras and ensured that Bisu did not lose the next battle totally, since JD had tons of hydras in the center at the time) while taking an expo at 5 himself AND pumping new troops non stop at home, if that`s not great multitasking then I don`t know what kind of standards you go by....

In the andromeda game watch him expo himself to 3 while taking out JDs island expo with a DT drop and stopping a drop stone cold at home. Or later picking off the defiler with a DT going towards his 5 base with lots of lings while charging in his main army at JDs 9 base while his sairs was roaming around for lords like they do pretty much all game.

Was his defense and timings impeccable in these 2 games and a big decisive factor of the wins? Sure, however that don`t change the fact that his multitasking shined through and was a factor of his wins also.
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
May 27 2009 19:44 GMT
#24
bee suit!
Tomcat
Profile Joined November 2002
Romania136 Posts
May 27 2009 21:50 GMT
#25
The game's great, the protoss is powerful, but tbh, the hotkeys don't really match. Take a look at his recently posted match vs Stork, where we're 100% certain it's him, and you'll see that. They're pretty similar, but not to the letter.

Unless Bisu recently decided to hotkey his nexus to 1-0 right away, the way Flash does with his CC...
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
May 27 2009 23:02 GMT
#26
On May 28 2009 06:50 Tomcat wrote:
The game's great, the protoss is powerful, but tbh, the hotkeys don't really match. Take a look at his recently posted match vs Stork, where we're 100% certain it's him, and you'll see that. They're pretty similar, but not to the letter.

Unless Bisu recently decided to hotkey his nexus to 1-0 right away, the way Flash does with his CC...

I don't get it when people try to teach me how to analyze hotkeys :/
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 27 2009 23:07 GMT
#27
lmao
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
May 27 2009 23:07 GMT
#28
On May 28 2009 06:50 Tomcat wrote:
The game's great, the protoss is powerful, but tbh, the hotkeys don't really match. Take a look at his recently posted match vs Stork, where we're 100% certain it's him, and you'll see that. They're pretty similar, but not to the letter.

Unless Bisu recently decided to hotkey his nexus to 1-0 right away, the way Flash does with his CC...

You are REALLLLY out of your league here. Dont argue with that man.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 28 2009 00:15 GMT
#29
gg
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 28 2009 00:40 GMT
#30
On May 28 2009 08:02 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2009 06:50 Tomcat wrote:
The game's great, the protoss is powerful, but tbh, the hotkeys don't really match. Take a look at his recently posted match vs Stork, where we're 100% certain it's him, and you'll see that. They're pretty similar, but not to the letter.

Unless Bisu recently decided to hotkey his nexus to 1-0 right away, the way Flash does with his CC...

I don't get it when people try to teach me how to analyze hotkeys :/

They just don't know better. lol
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
May 28 2009 03:01 GMT
#31
On May 28 2009 00:04 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2009 23:11 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:18 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:08 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:49 Scaramanga wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:24 Oystein wrote:
Man bisu got some jaw dropping macro, only caught him going above 700 minerals twice (and barely above) and both times during major battles... His multitasking is truly of another world.

best/flash/jd/some of the newer gamers can keep their minerals this low aswell

That don`t change the fact that its some insane macro
Lots of players got great macro for example forgg and Best, but you don`t see them harassing around, fighting a major battle while expoing AND keeping their minerals down. That is whats so sick about Bisu`s macro, he keeps it down while doing a million different things, hence I praised his insane multitasking skills who is probably the best of any progamer. (That`s not saying hes better overall than JD\Flash)

Whenever Bisu tried to outmultitask JD he lost.

Come on that`s just silly to say.

Sure JDs got a good rec vs Bisu and have some really great outmultitasking games like the famous BS game, the othello game(the first time the hydra->muta was used to deal with archonless toss I think?) the first collo game and the Desti games.

However bisu won both the long Andromeda games and the Medusa game via great multitasking.


Actually JD is the one progamer out there that completely negates Bisu's multitasking advantage.

Jaedong not only can keep up with Bisu he can often outpace him.


Haha...Jangbi totally outclassed Bisu in this one game on Destination...Don't remember which, but both main nexuses went down without half a minute of each other. Jangbi just seemed to have total map awareness the entire time. Maphacking like a beast.
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
May 28 2009 03:42 GMT
#32
On May 28 2009 12:01 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2009 00:04 Jayme wrote:
On May 27 2009 23:11 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:18 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:08 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:49 Scaramanga wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:24 Oystein wrote:
Man bisu got some jaw dropping macro, only caught him going above 700 minerals twice (and barely above) and both times during major battles... His multitasking is truly of another world.

best/flash/jd/some of the newer gamers can keep their minerals this low aswell

That don`t change the fact that its some insane macro
Lots of players got great macro for example forgg and Best, but you don`t see them harassing around, fighting a major battle while expoing AND keeping their minerals down. That is whats so sick about Bisu`s macro, he keeps it down while doing a million different things, hence I praised his insane multitasking skills who is probably the best of any progamer. (That`s not saying hes better overall than JD\Flash)

Whenever Bisu tried to outmultitask JD he lost.

Come on that`s just silly to say.

Sure JDs got a good rec vs Bisu and have some really great outmultitasking games like the famous BS game, the othello game(the first time the hydra->muta was used to deal with archonless toss I think?) the first collo game and the Desti games.

However bisu won both the long Andromeda games and the Medusa game via great multitasking.


Actually JD is the one progamer out there that completely negates Bisu's multitasking advantage.

Jaedong not only can keep up with Bisu he can often outpace him.


Haha...Jangbi totally outclassed Bisu in this one game on Destination...Don't remember which, but both main nexuses went down without half a minute of each other. Jangbi just seemed to have total map awareness the entire time. Maphacking like a beast.


Wait which game is this?
Stuck.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
May 28 2009 04:00 GMT
#33
Jaedong
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
May 28 2009 05:16 GMT
#34
On May 28 2009 02:18 minus_human wrote:
I see... a bloody anus

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alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
May 28 2009 06:21 GMT
#35
On May 28 2009 00:32 rkarhu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2009 00:04 Jayme wrote:
On May 27 2009 23:11 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:18 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:08 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:49 Scaramanga wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:24 Oystein wrote:
Man bisu got some jaw dropping macro, only caught him going above 700 minerals twice (and barely above) and both times during major battles... His multitasking is truly of another world.

best/flash/jd/some of the newer gamers can keep their minerals this low aswell

That don`t change the fact that its some insane macro
Lots of players got great macro for example forgg and Best, but you don`t see them harassing around, fighting a major battle while expoing AND keeping their minerals down. That is whats so sick about Bisu`s macro, he keeps it down while doing a million different things, hence I praised his insane multitasking skills who is probably the best of any progamer. (That`s not saying hes better overall than JD\Flash)

Whenever Bisu tried to outmultitask JD he lost.

Come on that`s just silly to say.

Sure JDs got a good rec vs Bisu and have some really great outmultitasking games like the famous BS game, the othello game(the first time the hydra->muta was used to deal with archonless toss I think?) the first collo game and the Desti games.

However bisu won both the long Andromeda games and the Medusa game via great multitasking.


Actually JD is the one progamer out there that completely negates Bisu's multitasking advantage.

Jaedong not only can keep up with Bisu he can often outpace him.


Not only that, but Z needs more multitasking anyways.

no, not really.
toss needs to multitask more
♠Spades ♣Clubs ♥Hearts ♦Diamonds ★★★★★
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
May 28 2009 06:24 GMT
#36
On May 28 2009 03:35 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2009 23:55 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
On May 27 2009 23:11 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:18 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
On May 27 2009 22:08 Oystein wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:49 Scaramanga wrote:
On May 27 2009 21:24 Oystein wrote:
Man bisu got some jaw dropping macro, only caught him going above 700 minerals twice (and barely above) and both times during major battles... His multitasking is truly of another world.

best/flash/jd/some of the newer gamers can keep their minerals this low aswell

That don`t change the fact that its some insane macro
Lots of players got great macro for example forgg and Best, but you don`t see them harassing around, fighting a major battle while expoing AND keeping their minerals down. That is whats so sick about Bisu`s macro, he keeps it down while doing a million different things, hence I praised his insane multitasking skills who is probably the best of any progamer. (That`s not saying hes better overall than JD\Flash)

Whenever Bisu tried to outmultitask JD he lost.

Come on that`s just silly to say.

Sure JDs got a good rec vs Bisu and have some really great outmultitasking games like the famous BS game, the othello game(the first time the hydra->muta was used to deal with archonless toss I think?) the first collo game and the Desti games.

However bisu won both the long Andromeda games and the Medusa game via great multitasking.

What? He won the last games on Andro and Medusa due to good defence and timing. That has nothing to do with multitasking. However his harass in both Desti games failed completely.

You along with several others seem to have this notion of multitasking = harass, and if you fail at harass you fail at multitasking. I think you need to go re watch the medusa game, watch how in the big center battle Bisu is picking off overlords at 9 while charging 2 clumps of hydras in the center and storming them to death (this removing a good portion of JDs hydras and ensured that Bisu did not lose the next battle totally, since JD had tons of hydras in the center at the time) while taking an expo at 5 himself AND pumping new troops non stop at home, if that`s not great multitasking then I don`t know what kind of standards you go by....

In the andromeda game watch him expo himself to 3 while taking out JDs island expo with a DT drop and stopping a drop stone cold at home. Or later picking off the defiler with a DT going towards his 5 base with lots of lings while charging in his main army at JDs 9 base while his sairs was roaming around for lords like they do pretty much all game.

Was his defense and timings impeccable in these 2 games and a big decisive factor of the wins? Sure, however that don`t change the fact that his multitasking shined through and was a factor of his wins also.


wow oystein. ALL progamers can multitask. All the stuff Bisu does isnt that amazing. JD can def do as good. Why? Cuz he's one of the best in the world. Just cuz Bisu is known to be good at multitasking doesnt mean he's SO much better than everyone else. Especially if u compare him to someone like Jaedong
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 28 2009 08:43 GMT
#37
actually bisu is amazing because of his multi-task/timed aggression. He pulls of many varied attacks simultaniously, that is his trade mark. Not to mention after his brutal harrass he has gateways,units , and expo's to go back to.

There is a reason he is the only protoss that can still pull of sair/reaver openings.

Watch bisu first person vs jaedong on bluestorm. During the micro intensive harass, he is spending more screen time macroing.

Bisu IS so much better then every other protoss are you joking? He was defending a bad argrument which was 'jaedong negates his multitask' when in reality jaedong simply keeps up.

Bisu multitask better then nearly every other pro gamer also. Infact only jaedong and maybe flash can be compared.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
May 28 2009 10:04 GMT
#38
On May 28 2009 13:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK5q1PiKY2I

good thing you posted this here, someone told me JangBi actually took a game from Bisu and I wanted to see if for myself, indeed some crazyass shit exists
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
May 28 2009 10:33 GMT
#39
was so sad when bisu dropped a dt in the corner of zerg's base waiting for the right moment but missed when he actually used it
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
May 28 2009 10:39 GMT
#40
On May 28 2009 19:04 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2009 13:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK5q1PiKY2I

good thing you posted this here, someone told me JangBi actually took a game from Bisu and I wanted to see if for myself, indeed some crazyass shit exists

one in every rare blue moon it seems.
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