Point of Emphasisp: Superb level of play by these two top gamers. JF starts with an aggressive build that places production a little bit closer than opponent players would like. ChinaTTTT however responds with gorgeous micro and a calculated response that should be taken note of by witnessing T players alike. Game progresses to a standard chess match on this map however JF plays a more aggressive brand of bw then the typical 35 minute stalemate in the middle.. some well executed attacks and some not so well executed.. anyways watching is fun

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poor jf

NonY

8751 Posts

November 02 2008 18:45 GMT

This'll be easy.

Pulimuli

Sweden2766 Posts

November 02 2008 19:44 GMT

You're facing him in the first round right NonY?

great play by 4T btw

NonY

8751 Posts

November 02 2008 19:59 GMT

Yep, on Python

Juanpe

Uruguay283 Posts

November 02 2008 20:17 GMT

=D =D =D =D!!

Thx so much Inc.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

November 02 2008 20:19 GMT

ya jf shouldntve attacked up the high ground

Empyrean

17035 Posts

November 02 2008 21:30 GMT

JF got really flustered near the end...two Fleet Beacons?

>_>

His first reaver attack was just deadly, though. He literally stopped the mining of 4t's main.

kefkalives

Australia1272 Posts

November 03 2008 00:22 GMT

I cant believe how well chinattt held off that double proxy inside his base. absolutely unreal.

JustQuitWarcraftIII

United States679 Posts

November 03 2008 15:42 GMT

In my opinion 4T has by far the best TvP out of all non-Koreans. He played another amazing game vs White-Ra not too long ago where he won after losing multiple expansions to Recalls.

Empyrean

17035 Posts

November 03 2008 20:13 GMT

#10

Is the replay available for that game?

TheFlashyOne

Canada450 Posts

November 04 2008 01:40 GMT

#11

On November 03 2008 09:22 kefkalives wrote:
I cant believe how well chinattt held off that double proxy inside his base. absolutely unreal.

hum...not really. it was a mistake by JF to reveal his first zealot. he should have waited for 3.

SpringWind

China231 Posts

November 04 2008 10:22 GMT

#12

On November 04 2008 10:40 TheFlashyOne wrote:

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hum...not really. it was a mistake by JF to reveal his first zealot. he should have waited for 3.

4t's SCV have entered jf's base before first zealot coming out,so he cant wait

TheFlashyOne

Canada450 Posts

November 04 2008 20:41 GMT

#13

hum...disagree

Biff The Understudy

France7947 Posts

November 05 2008 00:35 GMT

#14

There is nothing to disagree with.

Empty base = proxy = bunker and all the shit immediatly.

So better to go straight away before your opponent set up his defenses.

TheFlashyOne

Canada450 Posts

November 05 2008 00:53 GMT

#15

hum...still disagrees. showing 1 zealot reveals the cheese too quickly and ensures a bunker being made immediately whereas an empty base = proxy = bunker is a slightly longer path. empty base leaves one to wonder what kind of cheese is occurring, if any, (gates could have been in JF's corner, or perhaps even a fast expo somewhere) and is likely to delay a little bit the construction of a bunker, if any, and that bunker is more likely to not be located at the best location since an inside-the-base proxy is very rare. A first wave of 3 zealots would have done more damage.

Pads

England3228 Posts

November 05 2008 00:59 GMT

#16

On November 05 2008 09:53 TheFlashyOne wrote:
since an inside-the-base proxy is very rare.

how many pvt's have you watched on bluestorm?

TheFlashyOne

Canada450 Posts

November 05 2008 01:06 GMT

#17

still , even if they are somewhat common. my argument is valid. i dont know what you're trying to say.

Pads

England3228 Posts

November 05 2008 02:22 GMT

#18

your arguement isin't really valid, you said somthing about gateways being in jf's main, why the hell would be do that when he could just as easily put them in 4t's main and be like 98% more effective. and about putting up an expansion somewhere else, that just doesn't make sense. what sort of build have you ever seen that stops probe production at 9 (for the time being) and puts an expansion somewhere that isint your natural?

what your saying just doesn't make sense to me and i'm quite sure jf knows what he's doing

TheFlashyOne

Canada450 Posts

November 05 2008 02:38 GMT

#19

you don't understand my argument so i can't really say anything about your counter-argument.

you don't understand the part where im enumerating reasons why an empty base would result in a bunker being built, if any, slightly later than by revealing the first zealot. That is central, and can't be argued against. That's why a first wave of 3 zeals would have been more effective.