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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
June 09 2008 02:01 GMT
#21
I want to buy a Razer mouse too, but I can't afford it. Need to save for about one year lol.
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iLjh
Profile Joined February 2008
United States160 Posts
June 09 2008 02:24 GMT
#22
more customers, more publicity, more hits on website
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
June 09 2008 02:34 GMT
#23
...

I think it would be safe to say whatever money they put in they got right back from sales and publicity alone. People have been talking about their stuff non-stop and it appears many people purchased equipment because of the TSL alone.
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Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 03:15:34
June 09 2008 03:15 GMT
#24
On June 02 2008 07:57 mdb wrote:
My next mouse will be razer. Thats for sure.

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bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
June 09 2008 03:24 GMT
#25
Publicity/brand loyalty.
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
June 09 2008 08:00 GMT
#26
Some ballpark estimates:

$10,000 sponsorship.

$10 profit / mouse

Need extra 1000 mice sold to break even

Exposure to ~10,000 TSL viewers - an estimate for total online/offline viewers

Each viewer would need to be about 10% more likely to buy from Razer for them to break even. Given how little attention has been given to mousing in the RTS community so far, I'd say that's quite possible, especially gauging from the reaction here.

And that's ignoring repeat customers and the snowball effect through word-of-mouth (if I buy a Razer, then friends that I tell about it will also be more likely to). I have no idea how to estimate how big those are, but all-in-all I'm sure they'll turn a profit on this overall.
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HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 09 2008 10:16 GMT
#27
I think that everyone in TL recognizes the motivation of razer. So I think the normal advertising aim of 'implanting the brand into the subconscious association with products' would be amiss. But I think everyone in TL understands that razer had a big part to play in making the tournament such a big success, and as such we all feel like helping them out- not because we have been mindcontrolled into thinking razer are the only venders of such products.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 09 2008 10:28 GMT
#28
On June 09 2008 11:01 meegrean wrote:
I want to buy a Razer mouse too, but I can't afford it. Need to save for about one year lol.


A year? For 50 bucks?
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
June 09 2008 10:41 GMT
#29
On June 09 2008 19:28 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2008 11:01 meegrean wrote:
I want to buy a Razer mouse too, but I can't afford it. Need to save for about one year lol.


A year? For 50 bucks?


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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
June 09 2008 11:32 GMT
#30
On June 02 2008 07:58 DTF-ZeRo wrote:
Yeah i think it can pay out very well for razer. They are supporting esport everywhere and if they continue doing that, there is a high possibilty that gaming mice are direclty associated with razer, and thats what every company wants.
Like if you think of a soft drink you will probably think of coca cola, that kind of association is big.

this.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
June 09 2008 11:42 GMT
#31
In addition to what has been posted, this sponsorship also helps them build an association with Starcraft and RTSs in general as a reliable partner to the genre and the provider of reliable gaming accessories for it. Normally this would be more of an added bonus I think on the whole building customer loyalty thing and their general increase of sales. But in this case, SC2 is really just around the corner, and I think a lot of that credit they have earned will transfer when people who are coming back to the Starcraft world for SC2 decide its time for a new mouse. While 10K viewers is just a fraction of the likely SC2 audience, its still significant and hopefully can spread beyond the original viewers through recommendations, etc.

And just for good measure...

On June 02 2008 07:57 mdb wrote:
My next mouse will be razer. Thats for sure.

Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
June 09 2008 16:10 GMT
#32
I think there have already been mentioned some very nice points as to why Razer sponsored the TSL.

Sponsoring should raise brand awareness. Ideally, you want to be "top of mind", i.e. the brand that is mentioned first, when thinking about a category or product. I hope it is fairly obvious as to why this is good.

Additionally, factors such as brand likability, image, purchase intent, value perception etc. can be positively affected by sponsoring (as you can experience first hand here in the forums!).
Thanks to the promotional offer with the mouse pad, Razer can even directly find out if there has been a boost in sales resulting from their involvement, which is pretty neat. =)



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MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
June 09 2008 18:23 GMT
#33
On June 02 2008 08:46 NeoStorm wrote:
Isnt this a no brainer? Why does any company ever sponsor anything?

isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 20:37:31
June 09 2008 20:37 GMT
#34
I bought a razer deathadder, was thinking of microsoft 3.0 50/50% but them sponsoring TSL just put me over the edge for razer. GG
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 09 2008 21:35 GMT
#35
image.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
June 10 2008 02:15 GMT
#36
Razor's benefits are the same as any other sponsorship setup. Although, since Razor has managed to get onboard with the TSL so early, they really do stand to gain not only money but prestige associated with Tl.net events like this if it really takes off in the future. Ie, TSL's for SC2 etc, Razor will always be remembered as the sponsor who got this ball rolling, alongside the efforts of the TSL crew. That's worth paying for.
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 10 2008 02:18 GMT
#37
On June 02 2008 07:57 mdb wrote:
My next mouse will be razer. Thats for sure.

Yeah. Before I would say my next mouse would be another Logitech Mini Optical, but with the pending release of the Salmosa which should be similar in size and feel and Razer's commitment to eSports I think they're more deserving of my gaming purchases.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-10 02:29:17
June 10 2008 02:24 GMT
#38
To be honest, $13k is nothing to even a small company, it's 1/5th the pay of one employee for one year. Again, it's nothing for the amount of advertising they'd get, which is essentially less than 50c per unique IP advertised? of course that's worth it, they probably made a profit on sheer mouse sales, and that's not even what a company is aiming for, but rather repeat customers and name association.

If you think about it from a corporate perspective, $13k is really nothing at all when the average company is playing entry level employees $30-50k per year, and advertising on TV, radio, etc is exponentially more expensive. Imo $13k is a bargain for what they got.

I'm more impressed and happy that Razer trusts a group of volunteers enough to represent their brand name. $13k is not a big amount to them, but it could be very negative publicity wise if TSL failed horribly or if we did something dumb like swear a lot or steal the money, so the actual decision to let us sponsor was a lot bigger than the dollar amount.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
June 10 2008 03:34 GMT
#39
On June 10 2008 11:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
To be honest, $13k is nothing to even a small company, it's 1/5th the pay of one employee for one year. Again, it's nothing for the amount of advertising they'd get, which is essentially less than 50c per unique IP advertised? of course that's worth it, they probably made a profit on sheer mouse sales, and that's not even what a company is aiming for, but rather repeat customers and name association.

If you think about it from a corporate perspective, $13k is really nothing at all when the average company is playing entry level employees $30-50k per year, and advertising on TV, radio, etc is exponentially more expensive. Imo $13k is a bargain for what they got.

I'm more impressed and happy that Razer trusts a group of volunteers enough to represent their brand name. $13k is not a big amount to them, but it could be very negative publicity wise if TSL failed horribly or if we did something dumb like swear a lot or steal the money, so the actual decision to let us sponsor was a lot bigger than the dollar amount.



Where'd the last $3k go? Operating/Server costs?

And I just realized that Razer has been trying to go international (Razer Europe online in less than a week. (supposedly) and cn.razer.com is already online) and Starcraft's a really good way to do it. Starcraft has one of the biggest international reaches of any game out there.
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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 10 2008 05:06 GMT
#40
On June 02 2008 07:58 DTF-ZeRo wrote:
Yeah i think it can pay out very well for razer. They are supporting esport everywhere and if they continue doing that, there is a high possibilty that gaming mice are direclty associated with razer, and thats what every company wants.
Like if you think of a soft drink you will probably think of coca cola, that kind of association is big.


A lot more like Nike. Players want the same gear that their favorite pros use, so Razer gets the chance to associate themselves with the pros.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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