EPTWhat I do dislike is that it seems like if a post is something that staff members don't like or don't agree with(not necessarily against any rules) they take up an attitude and post something totally nasty in response. It just seems a little excessive and not setting a good example for the members. I feel it could be a much happier place overall.
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
What I do dislike is that it seems like if a post is something that staff members don't like or don't agree with(not necessarily against any rules) they take up an attitude and post something totally nasty in response. It just seems a little excessive and not setting a good example for the members. I feel it could be a much happier place overall. | ||
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danieldrsa
Brazil523 Posts
Since im a stater here on teamliquid (and noob on SC) i have some dumb questions even after reading the Recomended Threads and playing some games, but after some closed threads in strategy section i admit i have some fear to post there  Sometimes i wish to just ask, "hey i keep dying to 3 hatch hydra-lurker, why?" or "He did a 9 pool but crushed me with hydras, how can i defend this?" without doing a lenght post. You know, is not that im lazy, sometimes you just want to ask a quick question and get a quick answer and thats all. And ocasionally the search function take you to some difficult to understand threads, especially to starters. Perhaps a space in the site dedicated to quick question-quick answers, or a small box with a live chat can help (or even a noob questions section). This can be good since SC2 is coming, and i imagine a huge amount of noobs will come to try teamliquid (i can only sorry for the moderators when this happen , lot of work is coming ).Besides all, this is the best moderated forum ive ever frequented and wish that dont change (ok perhaps just a little bit more forgiving to respectful starters) | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
Well, I think tl.net is moderate. This is easily one of the best, if not the best, forum I've visited and I got my share of experience to back that statement up. Based on the ideal of "This is our site, not yours, and you are here as a guest until you are here as a friend until you are hear as family" the moderation fits that idea perfectly imo. Nobody's perfect and I'm sure tl.net admins fuck up once in a while too, but the moderation policies and the ideals of the site are fair. Don't behave like an idiot, think before you post and respect other users. Not saying the forum policies haven't lead to any problems, but you can never get perfect. You need to find a good balance. I think TL.net has it. The reason why gg.net and other forums are behind TL.net is not because of moderation policies though. So please don't compare the sites solely on moderation ideals. But that is a completely different issue. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On May 15 2009 04:29 Jonoman92 wrote: Well I think TL is more moderated than many other sites but I also think that's a good thing. This is how I feel as well and the main reason why I like TL. Plus the layout is great. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On May 15 2009 04:31 Lord_of_Chaos wrote: Of course, and we would never claim to be perfect. Nobody's perfect and I'm sure tl.net admins fuck up once in a while too, but the moderation policies and the ideals of the site are fair. The active moderators usually keep a pretty good track of who is banned by other moderators and not so clear bans or discussed pretty regularly. I'm sure most people here know the banlist in the Closed Forum. The same list exists in the Men In Red Forum (aka staff forum). It actually existed in MiR before Meat put a copy of it in the Closed Forum. If I skip the posts in the MiR-banlist that were made before there was a public banlist in the Closed Forum, I count 236 pages for the staff only banlist and 154 pages for the public banlist, so there are some 80 pages made by mods and other staff in it. Now of course some of these posts will be like "oh yeah that guy should've been banned a while ago", or "good riddance", or staff member who doesn't have moderator access will point out a user who could use a warning or ban, but I think this shows that we exercise a pretty healthy internal self-control regarding bans. | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
On May 15 2009 04:26 danieldrsa wrote: well, slightly over-moderated to me, but only slightly Since im a stater here on teamliquid (and noob on SC) i have some dumb questions even after reading the Recomended Threads and playing some games, but after some closed threads in strategy section i admit i have some fear to post there Sometimes i wish to just ask, "hey i keep dying to 3 hatch hydra-lurker, why?" or "He did a 9 pool but crushed me with hydras, how can i defend this?" without doing a lenght post. You know, is not that im lazy, sometimes you just want to ask a quick question and get a quick answer and thats all. And ocasionally the search function take you to some difficult to understand threads, especially to starters. Perhaps a space in the site dedicated to quick question-quick answers, or a small box with a live chat can help (or even a noob questions section). This can be good since SC2 is coming, and i imagine a huge amount of noobs will come to try teamliquid (i can only sorry for the moderators when this happen , lot of work is coming ).Besides all, this is the best moderated forum ive ever frequented and wish that dont change (ok perhaps just a little bit more forgiving to respectful starters) Yes. I'm aware of this and trying to fix it. A good example is this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93291 My initial reaction was to close it, but after rereading it you can it asks a very specific question that could generate discussion. Sometimes it's hard to draw the line that perfectly separates bad from good, so I'd ask that people just PM me if they feel I've made a wrong decision. | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
also, @danieldrsa - In general, the recommended threads do a pretty good job. I think that this game is so hard for new people to get into that writing anything definitive is difficult about the game, especially if you want it to last longer than the current map pool. | ||
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
It's reasonable, from the user's perspective, to keep it open. However from the admin's and forum's perspective it's not a good idea as it will dilute the quality of the site. I tried to solve that over at gg.net by creating a "Short Question Thread" in the strategic forum, which I believe had some good results. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
On April 10 2009 18:44 Geo.Rion wrote: i am suggesting you are bashing on whatever you can and ignoring any criticism, i write a ~10 round long post about sg you mentioned, write a PS which include a few words "it's pity it's late", you dont answer my analyses, that's fine, you are not supposed to, but you answer the PS and you are saying i'm a crybaby. Whatever, if that makes you feel happy and mature, go ahead. Pretty much self-explanatory. + Show Spoiler + On May 14 2009 13:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: the rule says its up to the referee to make a decision everyone is pissed off because the rule was stupid when it happened to Leta, but then it was changed to be less stupid, but the same thing happened in an equally stupid situation last night even though the rules have been changed i mean this is just clarification for the thread, risingdragoon can't respond because i banned himfor calling someone a 'remedial kid' and basically saying stupid more than i've said stupid in this here post, but to a bunch of people. mind your manners man, come on  "and basically saying stupid more than i've said stupid in this here post" In his twelve posts in that thread, he said stupid once. The last time I checked, 1 is less than 5. And, by the way, I fully agree with your ban because calling someone a "remedial kid" is like the equivalent of fucking someone's mother with a inverted vagina donkey dildo, jizzing all over his mother's forehead while dancing in circles singing Stacey's Mom by Fountains of Wayne, impregnating her, and returning four months later to FALCON PUNCH her uterus aborting the baby in the process. Damn that is harsh, he should be banned 4 life dude. "Cry out the dumb" and calling someone a "crying baby" (in the first spoiler tag of my post) is a little hypocritical in light of your other post, don't you think? You know how some people can't fucking drive and everyone knows that they shouldn't be on the road? And yet they still get driver's licenses and constantly piss off everyone who is unfortunate enough to be on the road with them? Well, the same goes for moderators with the privilege to ban users, because some clearly shouldn't be given the power to do it. Nonetheless, I will vote slightly over-moderated rather than very over-moderated, because every mod - other than a certain one here - normally displays the capacity to moderate well. In fact, I think most of the mods here are doing an awesome job! | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
and PS ofc the poll will be biased towards overmoderated because we have the banned users and lurkers who are gonna vote on that out of spite. | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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danieldrsa
Brazil523 Posts
On May 15 2009 05:23 Chill wrote: Yes. I'm aware of this and trying to fix it. A good example is this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93291 My initial reaction was to close it, but after rereading it you can it asks a very specific question that could generate discussion. Sometimes it's hard to draw the line that perfectly separates bad from good, so I'd ask that people just PM me if they feel I've made a wrong decision. good to know you care On May 15 2009 05:26 Lord_of_Chaos wrote: Also depends on what way you look at it. A question might be perfectly viable from the user's perspective, ie he can't get the info as far as he knows in any other way. But it might still be a lower quality op than the average. It's reasonable, from the user's perspective, to keep it open. However from the admin's and forum's perspective it's not a good idea as it will dilute the quality of the site. I tried to solve that over at gg.net by creating a "Short Question Thread" in the strategic forum, which I believe had some good results. dont know for sure, but i think something like that short question thread could help a lot | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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United States3161 Posts
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