Power Rank 02/02/2009 - Page 7
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NeverGG
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United Kingdom5399 Posts
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brjdrb
United States577 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On February 03 2009 20:34 Geo.Rion wrote: Flash doesnt have that much work recently as in the previous season I don't understand your point. Neither I nor the person I responded to was talking about recently. We're talking about over the past year. | ||
fanatacist
10319 Posts
Bisu #1! | ||
muramasa
Canada1299 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
He deserves credit for pulling away such results while being in ACE. I bet next month wills Savior coming back from oblivion too. ![]() | ||
LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On February 05 2009 01:20 LunarDestiny wrote: The power rank doesn't take consideration of Bisu's elo of 2312 above Leta's elo which is only 2250? Did you read the explanation that Mani linked? No? Go read it. Thanks. | ||
Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On February 05 2009 01:20 LunarDestiny wrote: The power rank doesn't take consideration of Bisu's elo of 2312 above Leta's elo which is only 2250? then answer is NO, PR is totally diferent than ELO or Kespa rankings | ||
JohnnyCash
France244 Posts
On February 02 2009 13:17 OneOther wrote: I disagree. Jangbi is one of the most consistent players right now, especially out of the Protoss pool. His losses come rarely in Proleague; he pulls through every time in individual leagues.Everyone drops unexpected matches at times, that's just the nature of the game. This is certainly not a unique quality, because it happens to everyone. What about Bisu? Could you say the same thing for Bisu then? He lost verses Zergs he was supposed to beat. I also remember when Jaedong lost to guys like Tempest in a best out of three, but that doesn't all of sudden make him a player "that can beat anyone in the world, but lose to anyone as well." I don't know, I feel like you are using an unfair criteria for Jangbi regarding this when it's not a distinctive quality. As for Stork being at the bottom, eh, I guess I can't argue much about it because he went on that losing streak in Proleague. But him handling forGG/go.go to easily advance from the group, then beating NaDa on infamous Rush Hour III and then taking down Mind shows he's still the greatest PvTer in the world. Hopefully it's also a sign that he's back to his normal form. Other than that, I really enjoyed this Power Rank, particularly your writing style. Thanks Mani! ![]() I agree 100%, with all three points. On the JangBi inconsistency, even though I know it doesn't mean much, I remember when he had a 90% win-ratio on iccup (one of the best ratios I've seen, correct me if I'm wrong). Even if there aren't only progamers, it's still a very high level of play and this to me is a proof that he's the kind of guy that hates losing and is always capable of finding a way to victory against a lesser opponent. | ||
Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On February 05 2009 07:13 JohnnyCash wrote: I agree 100%, with all three points. On the JangBi inconsistency, even though I know it doesn't mean much, I remember when he had a 90% win-ratio on iccup (one of the best ratios I've seen, correct me if I'm wrong). Even if there aren't only progamers, it's still a very high level of play and this to me is a proof that he's the kind of guy that hates losing and is always capable of finding a way to victory against a lesser opponent. He pulls trough individual leauges while Bisu doesnt? Let's see, Bisu: OSL (with wildcard though), GOM; Jangbi: MSL, GOM (with the luckiest, easiest road possible) I dont see how do you use idinvidual leagues against Bisu and in favor of Jangbi | ||
amanet
Croatia334 Posts
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JohnnyCash
France244 Posts
On February 05 2009 17:19 Geo.Rion wrote: He pulls trough individual leauges while Bisu doesnt? Let's see, Bisu: OSL (with wildcard though), GOM; Jangbi: MSL, GOM (with the luckiest, easiest road possible) I dont see how do you use idinvidual leagues against Bisu and in favor of Jangbi Hmm, I was more making a point about the initial argument that "JangBi can lose to anyone". All progamers can lose to anyone (including Bisu, just an example picked by OneOther..), but someone with a good sense of seeing cheeses coming and coming back from a BO disadvantage is less likely to do so. To me the 90% win ratio on Iccup proves that JangBi is in this category, not just a player with good mechanics which will get outsmarted from time to time by lesser opponents. | ||
Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On February 05 2009 19:54 JohnnyCash wrote: Hmm, I was more making a point about the initial argument that "JangBi can lose to anyone". All progamers can lose to anyone (including Bisu, just an example picked by OneOther..), but someone with a good sense of seeing cheeses coming and coming back from a BO disadvantage is less likely to do so. To me the 90% win ratio on Iccup proves that JangBi is in this category, not just a player with good mechanics which will get outsmarted from time to time by lesser opponents. Or that he tries harder than the other pros playing there? Wasnt magma A+ with like 2-4 losses last season? | ||
fanatacist
10319 Posts
On February 05 2009 18:41 amanet wrote: puting Leta 1st is ridiculous .. he cant beat bisu It's not about who can beat who, it's about who can beat the most players in the proscene today, in how dominating a fashion, and how consistently. FBH was on the PR many times even though he would probably lose to every Protoss on the list (generally). | ||
d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
A programmer is somebody who programs something, the progamers do no such thing. | ||
Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On February 05 2009 23:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: exactly, wait until he owns all in MSL/OSL and then he'll be ranked 9-1 in his last 10 games, wins over S class progamers in their good/best MUs, he needs nothing more to prove he belongs to PR. Maybe not very high, but he's on fire | ||
Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On February 05 2009 18:41 amanet wrote: He has already... even though it was before Bisu made his comeback. Still, if they meet in the OSL, I think Leta has a good chance. puting Leta 1st is ridiculous .. he cant beat bisu They can't meet in the MSL, because Bisu failed hard there, which is why he's not number one in the power rank. | ||
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