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I am looking at the month as a whole, although slightly weighting the end of the month, to be more representative to how I think they are RIGHT now.
1.Bisu -He set a new elo peak...twice. He's 3-0ed his OSL group, and won GSI. He was 20-5(80%) in the month of February, and has looked ridiculously good.
2. Jangbi- He did what he had to to beat his teammate Frozean in the MSL, but obviously his heart was not in the game. More impressively he's 15-5 (75%) and 3 of those losses were to Bisu, the current #1. I suppose his other wins besides 2 against Bisu and three against Free were not really that impressive.
3. Jaedong- He was 16-7(69.57%) this month, which is actually worse than Flash, but because his wins came at the end of the month, whereas flash has, towards the end of the month been rocky, I'm giving Jaedong number 3.
4. Luxury- You are awesome. You were only 12-8 (60%) but your also in two leagues, and the semi-finals of the MSL, and you've won a special place in my heart for guaranteeing a Zerg in the finals of anything.
5. Flash- Oh flashy. I wanted to put you lower than this but the goal here is to be as objective as possible based on current play and you WERE 18-7 (72%). You're below Jaedong and lux because you were just 2-0ed by Leta. AND you lost to best on tears of the protoss. But most importantly because your in neither league
6. Hyvaa- If you were doing anything besides proleague you would be much higher. But Leta has shown us proleague dominance is not equal to starleague dominance. You were 14-5 (73.68%). That's right the third best record in February. Your win list includes July, Hwasin, Luxury, and Anytime. Good job, take your sixth place. I wish you luck in starleague. Oh and I'm putting you lower than flash because if you take out his abysmal starleague play, he was doing even better than you in WL
7. Stork- Nice. Your in both leagues. Good job. But you went through hell to do it. Congratulations on an 8-8 February. You look good in your wins but your losses look stupid. I mean were you actually surprised KWANRO rushed you? All in all though you've looked ok.
8. Hwasin- You're not bad. 8-7 (53.33%), and your in the OSL, and were first in your group, although you had a loss. Nothing really to say here
9. Leta- Hey Leta...your down here for the opposite reason That stork is at 7. I like you. I think you're really good. But you're 9-10 47.43 record isn't fabulous, and your out of both leagues, although you made MSL quarters. Your losses were understandable, but then your wins were also expected.
10. Best- Your also in the OSL, but only as far as Leta made it in the MSL...quarters. Your a piddly 4-7 (41.67%) in February and honestly I'm angry that you haven't learned control from Bisu at all. You're games don't look like their getting any better and people are getting more used to your style. Step it up.
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1. Bisu : Set the ELO peak twice, and has been absolutly vital to SKT in the WL. He allkilled OGN, went 2-1 vs CJ and won a triple kill vs OZ. He is 20-5 (80%) in the month of Febuary and 37 wins - 11 losses (77.08%) in 2009. He is in bonjwa god mode right now, 3-0'ing his OSL group, and is a heavy favorite to reach the finals in the OSL.
2. Jangbi : Jangbi is the Bisu of KHAN. His playstyle is just so similar; based around harrassment while macroing up a huge army. Right now, with Stork sucking shit through his eyes, Jangbi is the only reliable player for KHAN. (much like Bisu for SKT) He is 15 wins - 6 losses (71.43%) in Febuary, and is extremly close to breaking the 2300 ELO barrier.
3. Jaedong : He's just a scary motherfucker thats why. But like the 2 players ahead of him, JD is powering his team alone. (I'm on the fence with Hiya, but ForGG and Lomo just suck) But at the end of the day, Lee Jae Dong is not somebody you want to face.
4. Flash : FUCK KTF. TRADE FLASH TO WOONGIN PLZKTHANKS~
5. Hwasin : The red snipaaahh is backk and with a vengance~ 14 wins - 8 losses (63.64%) in '09, against big names such as Jaedong Flash BeST Upmagic. I was frankly shocked by his ballsy play in the MSL and OSL group and ro16 stages. The red sniper is back, and back with a fury~
6. Luxury : Lux lux lux. It's finally good to see a zerg tear shit up in the SL's. With a foot into both major starleagues, Lux is on fire. He is only this low because i dont think he's going to go far in either. In the OSL, Bisu, Jaedong, BeST, Hwasin make for a scary company, while in the MSL, he might be faced with a ZvZ finals. (wait...his best matchup...) scratch that. Lux for MSL GOLD
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6. Luxury : Lux lux lux. It's finally good to see a zerg tear shit up in the SL's. With a foot into both major starleagues, Lux is on fire. He is only this low because i dont think he's going to go far in either. In the OSL, Bisu, Jaedong, BeST, Hwasin make for a scary company, while in the MSL, he might be faced with a ZvZ finals. (wait...his best matchup...) scratch that. Lux for MSL GOLD
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He can't be in a Z v Z semifinal because on the other bracket there are just tosses and terrans,and he will most likely be facing Jangbi or Stork,neither of which is an easy opponent. And there is Zero too. But well said otherwise.
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You mean finals, since he's facing Zero in the semis.
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On March 01 2009 03:34 Darth Peter wrote:
He can't be in a Z v Z semifinal because on the other bracket there are just tosses and terrans,and he will most likely be facing Jangbi or Stork,neither of which is an easy opponent. And there is Zero too. But well said otherwise.
wait..wasnt it
ZeRO vs Lux semi
and...the other quarterfinals still have to go
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On March 01 2009 03:09 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
1. Bisu : Set the ELO peak twice, and has been absolutly vital to SKT in the WL. He allkilled OGN, went 2-1 vs CJ and won a triple kill vs OZ. He is 20-5 (80%) in the month of Febuary and 37 wins - 11 losses (77.08%) in 2009. He is in bonjwa god mode right now, 3-0'ing his OSL group, and is a heavy favorite to reach the finals in the OSL.
2. Jangbi : Jangbi is the Bisu of KHAN. His playstyle is just so similar; based around harrassment while macroing up a huge army. Right now, with Stork sucking shit through his eyes, Jangbi is the only reliable player for KHAN. (much like Bisu for SKT) He is 15 wins - 6 losses (71.43%) in Febuary, and is extremly close to breaking the 2300 ELO barrier.
3. Jaedong : He's just a scary motherfucker thats why. But like the 2 players ahead of him, JD is powering his team alone. (I'm on the fence with Hiya, but ForGG and Lomo just suck) But at the end of the day, Lee Jae Dong is not somebody you want to face.
4. Flash : FUCK KTF. TRADE FLASH TO WOONGIN PLZKTHANKS~
5. Hwasin : The red snipaaahh is backk and with a vengance~ 14 wins - 8 losses (63.64%) in '09, against big names such as Jaedong Flash BeST Upmagic. I was frankly shocked by his ballsy play in the MSL and OSL group and ro16 stages. The red sniper is back, and back with a fury~
6. Luxury : Lux lux lux. It's finally good to see a zerg tear shit up in the SL's. With a foot into both major starleagues, Lux is on fire. He is only this low because i dont think he's going to go far in either. In the OSL, Bisu, Jaedong, BeST, Hwasin make for a scary company, while in the MSL, he might be faced with a ZvZ finals. (wait...his best matchup...) scratch that. Lux for MSL GOLD
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Stupid rank Luxury should be above Hwasin and Flash ... The top 3 will be decided by tomorow's match Bisu vs Jaedong .
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On March 01 2009 04:29 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 03:09 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
1. Bisu : Set the ELO peak twice, and has been absolutly vital to SKT in the WL. He allkilled OGN, went 2-1 vs CJ and won a triple kill vs OZ. He is 20-5 (80%) in the month of Febuary and 37 wins - 11 losses (77.08%) in 2009. He is in bonjwa god mode right now, 3-0'ing his OSL group, and is a heavy favorite to reach the finals in the OSL.
2. Jangbi : Jangbi is the Bisu of KHAN. His playstyle is just so similar; based around harrassment while macroing up a huge army. Right now, with Stork sucking shit through his eyes, Jangbi is the only reliable player for KHAN. (much like Bisu for SKT) He is 15 wins - 6 losses (71.43%) in Febuary, and is extremly close to breaking the 2300 ELO barrier.
3. Jaedong : He's just a scary motherfucker thats why. But like the 2 players ahead of him, JD is powering his team alone. (I'm on the fence with Hiya, but ForGG and Lomo just suck) But at the end of the day, Lee Jae Dong is not somebody you want to face.
4. Flash : FUCK KTF. TRADE FLASH TO WOONGIN PLZKTHANKS~
5. Hwasin : The red snipaaahh is backk and with a vengance~ 14 wins - 8 losses (63.64%) in '09, against big names such as Jaedong Flash BeST Upmagic. I was frankly shocked by his ballsy play in the MSL and OSL group and ro16 stages. The red sniper is back, and back with a fury~
6. Luxury : Lux lux lux. It's finally good to see a zerg tear shit up in the SL's. With a foot into both major starleagues, Lux is on fire. He is only this low because i dont think he's going to go far in either. In the OSL, Bisu, Jaedong, BeST, Hwasin make for a scary company, while in the MSL, he might be faced with a ZvZ finals. (wait...his best matchup...) scratch that. Lux for MSL GOLD
too lazy to finsih Stupid rank Luxury should be above Hwasin and Flash ... The top 3 will be decided by tomorow's match Bisu vs Jaedong .
Bisu is no1 unless he got raped 3-0 i think
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reasons for Bisu being #1:
-dominating every player on the current PR except of Lux who 5pooled him
-winning the GSL title in convincing manner
-breaking the all-time-ELO-record
-he plays the best SC ever
reasons for Bisu not being #1:
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even if he gets fucked 3-0 tomorrow, which is not probable, his games are so freaking convincing, that he has to be #1 (it's just a show fight, doesn't count very much)
He just took SC to another level... if he manages to beat JD tomorrow, #2 shouldn't be awarded to anyone to underline Bisu's power.
If not JD should be 2.
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unless jaedong baaaaadly rapes him 3-0, bisu should be #1
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On March 01 2009 04:52 Polar_Bear wrote:
reasons for Bisu being #1:
-dominating every player on the current PR except of Lux who 5pooled him
-winning the GSL title in convincing manner
-breaking the all-time-ELO-record
-he plays the best SC ever
reasons for Bisu not being #1:
...
even if he gets fucked 3-0 tomorrow, which is not probable, his games are so freaking convincing, that he has to be #1 (it's just a show fight, doesn't count very much)
He just took SC to another level... if he manages to beat JD tomorrow, #2 shouldn't be awarded to anyone to underline Bisu's power.
If not JD should be 2.
If Jaedong beats him then Bisu is not playing on an other level .... Both players have been owning in WL and OSL so i don't know if he is playing on an other level if he doesn't prove it versus Jaedong ....
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On March 01 2009 05:46 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 04:52 Polar_Bear wrote:
reasons for Bisu being #1:
-dominating every player on the current PR except of Lux who 5pooled him
-winning the GSL title in convincing manner
-breaking the all-time-ELO-record
-he plays the best SC ever
reasons for Bisu not being #1:
...
even if he gets fucked 3-0 tomorrow, which is not probable, his games are so freaking convincing, that he has to be #1 (it's just a show fight, doesn't count very much)
He just took SC to another level... if he manages to beat JD tomorrow, #2 shouldn't be awarded to anyone to underline Bisu's power.
If not JD should be 2. If Jaedong beats him then Bisu is not playing on an other level .... Both players have been owning in WL and OSL so i don't know if he is playing on an other level if he doesn't prove it versus Jaedong ....
Once again I repeat that Jaedong has no titles in February whereas Bisu does. On top of that Bisu's record since Jan 1st is better than Jaedongs. That, with the 2 new ELO peaks, should be enough to outweigh the results of a showmatch.
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If Flash is higher than 6 it'll be a crime. I don't have anything against him, but there's really no longer any argument that he's the best player right now.
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On March 01 2009 09:06 Zozma wrote:
If Flash is higher than 6 it'll be a crime. I don't have anything against him, but there's really no longer any argument that he's the best player right now.
The argument isn't as much whether or not he is the best player or not, but whether or not he can showcase his skill, which he no longer can thanks to KTF.
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On March 01 2009 09:07 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 09:06 Zozma wrote:
If Flash is higher than 6 it'll be a crime. I don't have anything against him, but there's really no longer any argument that he's the best player right now. The argument isn't as much whether or not he is the best player or not, but whether or not he can showcase his skill, which he no longer can thanks to KTF. Saying that he lost because he's carrying his team is just disrespectful to those who win against him.
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On March 01 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 05:46 raga4ka wrote:On March 01 2009 04:52 Polar_Bear wrote:
reasons for Bisu being #1:
-dominating every player on the current PR except of Lux who 5pooled him
-winning the GSL title in convincing manner
-breaking the all-time-ELO-record
-he plays the best SC ever
reasons for Bisu not being #1:
...
even if he gets fucked 3-0 tomorrow, which is not probable, his games are so freaking convincing, that he has to be #1 (it's just a show fight, doesn't count very much)
He just took SC to another level... if he manages to beat JD tomorrow, #2 shouldn't be awarded to anyone to underline Bisu's power.
If not JD should be 2. If Jaedong beats him then Bisu is not playing on an other level .... Both players have been owning in WL and OSL so i don't know if he is playing on an other level if he doesn't prove it versus Jaedong .... Once again I repeat that Jaedong has no titles in February whereas Bisu does. On top of that Bisu's record since Jan 1st is better than Jaedongs. That, with the 2 new ELO peaks, should be enough to outweigh the results of a showmatch.
I think that depends how important of a match it is in Korea.
On March 01 2009 09:07 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 09:06 Zozma wrote:
If Flash is higher than 6 it'll be a crime. I don't have anything against him, but there's really no longer any argument that he's the best player right now. The argument isn't as much whether or not he is the best player or not, but whether or not he can showcase his skill, which he no longer can thanks to KTF.
Then should we have put Bisu on the power rank when he sucked due to his hand? It doesn't matter with ifs or whys, all that matters is the skill they show when the PR comes out, and Flash doesn't looks nearly as good as two weeks ago.
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On February 28 2009 23:53 DamageControL wrote:
7. Stork- Nice. Your in both leagues. Good job. But you went through hell to do it. Congratulations on an 8-8 February. You look good in your wins but your losses look stupid. I mean were you actually surprised KWANRO rushed you? All in all though you've looked ok.
Nal_ra's commentary on the first game between Stork and Kwanro. Translation by LosingID8
+ Show Spoiler +stork thought that kwanro would not go all-in hydra rush because kwanro lost a drone. if he hadn't killed that drone he would have been more prepared. the difference in 1 drone is 10 and 12 hydras at that timing. nal_ra said that he practiced that situation on bnet and said that if it is 10 hydras vs 3 cannons 1 goon and a couple zealots you can block it 100% if you pull your probes properly, but stork made a mistake because his corsair didn't give him vision of minerals so he couldn't mineral-click with probes, leading to his loss.
Not really arguing, but just pointing out that unfortunately for us non-Korean speakers, what we see is not always the truth. Stork still failed epically against Kwanro, but in a different way.
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On March 01 2009 11:03 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2009 23:53 DamageControL wrote:
7. Stork- Nice. Your in both leagues. Good job. But you went through hell to do it. Congratulations on an 8-8 February. You look good in your wins but your losses look stupid. I mean were you actually surprised KWANRO rushed you? All in all though you've looked ok. Nal_ra's commentary on the first game between Stork and Kwanro. Translation by LosingID8 + Show Spoiler +stork thought that kwanro would not go all-in hydra rush because kwanro lost a drone. if he hadn't killed that drone he would have been more prepared. the difference in 1 drone is 10 and 12 hydras at that timing. nal_ra said that he practiced that situation on bnet and said that if it is 10 hydras vs 3 cannons 1 goon and a couple zealots you can block it 100% if you pull your probes properly, but stork made a mistake because his corsair didn't give him vision of minerals so he couldn't mineral-click with probes, leading to his loss. Not really arguing, but just pointing out that unfortunately for us non-Korean speakers, what we see is not always the truth. Stork still failed epically against Kwanro, but in a different way.
Whoa i didn't see this... That makes far more sense.
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On March 01 2009 09:51 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 09:07 fanatacist wrote:On March 01 2009 09:06 Zozma wrote:
If Flash is higher than 6 it'll be a crime. I don't have anything against him, but there's really no longer any argument that he's the best player right now. The argument isn't as much whether or not he is the best player or not, but whether or not he can showcase his skill, which he no longer can thanks to KTF. Saying that he lost because he's carrying his team is just disrespectful to those who win against him.
I am not saying it's only because of that. Best played amazing, Leta played great too. It was just part of the problem.
On March 01 2009 09:51 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:On March 01 2009 05:46 raga4ka wrote:On March 01 2009 04:52 Polar_Bear wrote:
reasons for Bisu being #1:
-dominating every player on the current PR except of Lux who 5pooled him
-winning the GSL title in convincing manner
-breaking the all-time-ELO-record
-he plays the best SC ever
reasons for Bisu not being #1:
...
even if he gets fucked 3-0 tomorrow, which is not probable, his games are so freaking convincing, that he has to be #1 (it's just a show fight, doesn't count very much)
He just took SC to another level... if he manages to beat JD tomorrow, #2 shouldn't be awarded to anyone to underline Bisu's power.
If not JD should be 2. If Jaedong beats him then Bisu is not playing on an other level .... Both players have been owning in WL and OSL so i don't know if he is playing on an other level if he doesn't prove it versus Jaedong .... Once again I repeat that Jaedong has no titles in February whereas Bisu does. On top of that Bisu's record since Jan 1st is better than Jaedongs. That, with the 2 new ELO peaks, should be enough to outweigh the results of a showmatch. I think that depends how important of a match it is in Korea. Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 09:07 fanatacist wrote:On March 01 2009 09:06 Zozma wrote:
If Flash is higher than 6 it'll be a crime. I don't have anything against him, but there's really no longer any argument that he's the best player right now. The argument isn't as much whether or not he is the best player or not, but whether or not he can showcase his skill, which he no longer can thanks to KTF. Then should we have put Bisu on the power rank when he sucked due to his hand? It doesn't matter with ifs or whys, all that matters is the skill they show when the PR comes out, and Flash doesn't looks nearly as good as two weeks ago.
Um, no? That is not similar. It's because he's in neither leagues, so it's hard to see his skill in WL and SLs when he isn't in SLs. That's all I'm saying. I agree that he doesn't look as good, and even though it's understandable WHY, I do acknowledge it's a fact. I am not making an argument for Flash to be high at all, or that he is the best.
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I'm eager to see the results of Bisu vs Jaedong
If it's close, I think Bisu will still have to be #1 - there are one or two players Jaedong will have a hard time with in a series, and Jaedong is the only opponent I can think of that would scare Bisu. If Jaedong wins 3-0 in clearly one-sided games, expect a different #1, but otherwise... I don't know how anyone could justify putting Bisu anywhere else.
Regardless, Jaedong won't be #1. If Bisu loses in a convincing fashion, Jangbi deserves the spot more than Jaedong does given the level of played displayed by both over the month.
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