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On October 11 2008 07:10 xenero wrote:
It's about time Flash's standing in the PR take notice of his recent performance. That guy has been overrated for the last 2 months.
Even as a Flash fan, I would put him 6-9 on the power rank. Maybe closer to 9. He is just sucking balls recently. Hopefully he can continue to help KTF in the proleauge and do well in GOM or I can see him off the power rank in a couple of months.
I just hope Luxury is helping him out TvZ :/
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Bisu's recent pvp stats: 2-2 vs Stork 3-0 vs Much and 1-0 vs Backho
It is much improved and I would definitly consider it a strenght. Training with Best must be paying off.
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I see Bisu as #6 in the upcoming PR
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my suggestions:
1. jaedong
2. stork
sea should be gone from power rank until he wins an individual league. i've never seen someone being so consistent in failing since mumyung and even he lucked out vs superior players once in a while. the reason he should win a league is because its time to raise the bar 10x higher for him for being on the PR every month and disappointing every single time without exceptions.
fantasy, ggplay and bisu should be high.
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Why Jaedong at #1?
Jaedong and Stork are both in MSL. Stork is in OSL semifinals, Jaedong is not.
1. Stork
2. Jaedong
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On October 12 2008 04:34 OneOther wrote:
Why Jaedong at #1?
Jaedong and Stork are both in MSL. Stork is in OSL semifinals, Jaedong is not.
1. Stork
2. Jaedong
I seem to be the one to repeat this "riding off his momentoum from 3-0ing Flash."
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On October 12 2008 04:34 OneOther wrote:
Why Jaedong at #1?
Jaedong and Stork are both in MSL. Stork is in OSL semifinals, Jaedong is not.
1. Stork
2. Jaedong
Because Jaedong is obviously a better player than Stork? Jaedong > Stork, we know this because last time Jaedong met Stork in matches, he played a 1 sided rape game
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Stork is in a tear, fucking admit it please, beating best will be a hardcore mission for him, but as oneother said, Stork is in OSL semis, Jaedong was not even in OSL, so Stork should be placed higher than Jaedong.
On October 12 2008 00:23 Krigstar wrote:
sea should be gone from power rank until he wins an individual league. i've never seen someone being so consistent in failing since mumyung and even he lucked out vs superior players once in a while. the reason he should win a league is because its time to raise the bar 10x higher for him for being on the PR every month and disappointing every single time without exceptions.
fantasy, ggplay and bisu should be high.
Agreed.
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Jeadong would cream stork anyday of the week with 1 hand binded to his back.
Its a non conteset really, stork has more results for now as jeadong didnt make osl but hes nowere as good as jeadong is imo.
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I say next PR Stork > Jaedong, but November may be a different story.
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JD> Stork anytime but who the fuck cares. Stork is the race for 2 major titles, it doesnt matter who will beat who in BoX, this is getting more like my dad will beat your dad. JD is starting his season waaay to slow, a bunch of other guys out there are hot as hell and have so much momentum. Players like BeSt and Stork are showing us their skills like 3 time a week, and because of JD is out of OSL we have the honor to watch him like 2 times a month. If I have to make a comparison JD is like Kramnik in chess, he is no where to see in the big battles but all people are saying "ah sure Kramnik is the best, he will own everyone in a match". In fact to be honest I do think JD will beat everyone in best of whatever match atm, but putting him on the top of the charts with his pathetic whats is it like... 3-2 record this season so far, is a bit too much. I mean whats the point of putting him #1 with his record above a guy with a 10 games long winning streak in the major tournaments
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Powerrank is about who the best player is at the moment. Stork is not the best player atm... :/. He would get rolled by Jaedong, Flash, and probably (soon to find out) BeSt. Obviously, it's not ALWAYS a pure skill rank, because its also based off performance, where currently Stork > Flash... but Stork should definitely not be above Jaedong. I don't even like Jaedong too much and I know it would be a horrible one sided rape if he Bo5'ed Stork. Skill has to be taken into account
EDIT: And just to add, I think Stork would need to either 3-0 BeSt and lose in a close OSL final, or just beat BeSt and win the OSL to be powerrank number one above Jaedong.
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Just because Jaedong did not have many chances to play as much games as Stork to prove himself, does not mean he should go lower in ranking. Isn't PR always about who is the top 10 strongest at the current month by their performances up to that month, instead of who simply had the best performance this month
Like I said earlier:
On September 26 2008 13:31 Februarys wrote:
I think doing the PR based on who are the current top 10 best players including their play from current month is much better than simply who performed the best this month without regarding their overall terms of skill. If we go by your method of PR, we could possibly see weak players like Rock as #1 PR, if in that month, he beats other low level players without losing any. Lets say that Jaedong lost 2 games in December to another high level player like Flash, while Rock did not lose any games during December, but he beat players like Backho and Tossgirl. Strictly looking how well they performed that month, its obvious that Rock had a better month than Jaedong. However, would you place Rock above Jaedong for December PR? I dont think so
So by this reasoning, Stork should not be placed above Jaedong, especially because the last time Jaedong met Stork, JD stomped all over him.
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On October 12 2008 07:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
Powerrank is about who the best player is at the moment. Stork is not the best player atm... :/. He would get rolled by Jaedong, Flash, and probably (soon to find out) BeSt. Obviously, it's not ALWAYS a pure skill rank, because its also based off performance, where currently Stork > Flash... but Stork should definitely not be above Jaedong. I don't even like Jaedong too much and I know it would be a horrible one sided rape if he Bo5'ed Stork. Skill has to be taken into account
EDIT: And just to add, I think Stork would need to either 3-0 BeSt and lose in a close OSL final, or just beat BeSt and win the OSL to be powerrank number one above Jaedong.
This only theory mate, how can you back up this statement when flash is out of msl and osl? Stork is still out there and owning left and right. I've said so many times that if Stork and Bisu manage to advance from the group stages there are getting almost like 100% at least semifinalists. Its so hard to take down those 2 in Bo whatever match. I can say the same for JD, he will destroy the noobs until he meets a powerhouse (maybe Bisu in a possible MSL semi ? )
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On October 12 2008 00:23 Krigstar wrote:
my suggestions:
1. jaedong
2. stork
sea should be gone from power rank until he wins an individual league. i've never seen someone being so consistent in failing since mumyung and even he lucked out vs superior players once in a while. the reason he should win a league is because its time to raise the bar 10x higher for him for being on the PR every month and disappointing every single time without exceptions.
fantasy, ggplay and bisu should be high.
After doing my best to understand your nonsensical logic, I came up with this: since Sea hasn't done well in individual leagues, we should ban him from the power rank. More precisely, since he's failed, and hasn't won any leagues, he isn't allowed onto the power rank. Okay, I think that's the best translation of the bizarre, otherworld nonsense you posted I can manage. My question is this: So why doesn't that apply to stork? Stork keeps "failing" and getting second places. Or how about, say, Luxury. He choked in the semifinals of leagues before, let's kick him off the power rank too!
What the hell has got you so upset about sea? Because you don't like him, you think the bar should be higher for him? Oh, that'll make a great power rank! "Hey, look everybody, this is a monthly list of good players, except for the ones I don't like for various reasons!" Yeah, that sounds fucking fantastic. Seriously though, what did Sea ever do to you? You can tell us. Just show us on the doll where he touched you.
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On October 12 2008 07:26 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2008 07:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
Powerrank is about who the best player is at the moment. Stork is not the best player atm... :/. He would get rolled by Jaedong, Flash, and probably (soon to find out) BeSt. Obviously, it's not ALWAYS a pure skill rank, because its also based off performance, where currently Stork > Flash... but Stork should definitely not be above Jaedong. I don't even like Jaedong too much and I know it would be a horrible one sided rape if he Bo5'ed Stork. Skill has to be taken into account
EDIT: And just to add, I think Stork would need to either 3-0 BeSt and lose in a close OSL final, or just beat BeSt and win the OSL to be powerrank number one above Jaedong. This only theory mate, how can you back up this statement when flash is out of msl and osl? Stork is still out there and owning left and right. I've said so many times that if Stork and Bisu manage to advance from the group stages there are getting almost like 100% at least semifinalists. Its so hard to take down those 2 in Bo whatever match. I can say the same for JD, he will destroy the noobs until he meets a powerhouse (maybe Bisu in a possible MSL semi ? )
Only in theory, of course. But I don't think anyone doubts that Jaedong would smash Stork in a best of series. Could Bisu take down Jaedong in a best of series? In theory yes, but Bisu has lost against Jaedong in the games that count historically. Would Flash demolish Stork? Again, maybe not, but probably... he still has the best TvP and has beaten Stork in 2 finals, one being a 3-0.. Flash pretty much molded his TvP style specifically to counter Stork's builds and tendencies. I think Flash would be a huge favorite Bo5 against Stork.
So, it's hypothetical yeah, but you can't have every player best of 5 over and over to see who is "really the best"... you have to base your assumptions based off previous encounters and how badly they dominate in certain matchups. ZvP Jaedong destroys and TvP Flash is still the best out there. PvZ/PvT Bisu hasn't been so hot recently, and ZvP is Stork's worst MU/he historically has been crushed by Flash. That being said, again, I would put Stork > Flash on next powerrank because it can't all be "who would beat who in BOx series"... some of it is recent preformance and standings.
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i think stork is the favorite in a Bo X vs Flash, atm.
hoooooooooowever, JD > stork, he simply is the better player. Don`t watch only statistics, watch games, and don`t come with the 'look at JD vs frozean', coz shit happen`...i don`t think frozean will stand any chance in a Bo5 vs jaedong, and neither does stork.
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On October 12 2008 04:34 OneOther wrote:
Why Jaedong at #1?
Jaedong and Stork are both in MSL. Stork is in OSL semifinals, Jaedong is not.
1. Stork
2. Jaedong
yeah, and Bisu was in the OSL Ro8 and jaedong wasn`t, maybe he should also be above JD
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imo
#1 JD
#2 Best
#3 stork
#4 ggplay
They have been showing great shape imo.
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On October 12 2008 08:57 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2008 04:34 OneOther wrote:
Why Jaedong at #1?
Jaedong and Stork are both in MSL. Stork is in OSL semifinals, Jaedong is not.
1. Stork
2. Jaedong yeah, and Bisu was in the OSL Ro8 and jaedong wasn`t, maybe he should also be above JD
bisu shouldnt be above JD...just yet
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