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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
December 26 2007 12:47 GMT
#1
mind ez
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-26 12:49:07
December 26 2007 12:48 GMT
#2
These are just some players from the top ELO ranks in the TLPD;

Who is your pick to become the next star in 2008? I only picked these few because I believe they did their impact this year to show they are ready to become new main aces for their teams in 08.

Except for Ruby and Pure, but I guess I was lazy
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-26 19:15:28
December 26 2007 12:55 GMT
#3
Mind is already Wemade's ace, hes already their star, If not mind, Id pick Kal, and 815 who already proved themselves vs quality opponments.
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
December 26 2007 12:56 GMT
#4
Other ez.
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
December 26 2007 12:58 GMT
#5
Well i picked mainstream as i am Mind
If not Mind then "other"
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
December 26 2007 12:59 GMT
#6
mind already has a title under his belt which means so much and even more when it happened by beating really top players pretty convicingly. I don't see him belonging in this list, he should own this poll.

So, go Kal
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
December 26 2007 13:01 GMT
#7
On December 26 2007 21:58 asel wrote:
Well i picked mainstream as i am Mind
If not Mind then "other"


you do realise "other" is not a player's nickname don't you?

I guess you should state who you have in mind
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
December 26 2007 13:10 GMT
#8
RuBy
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
December 26 2007 13:49 GMT
#9
I think there are several players that could make it. Mind, Kal and 815 are my favourites so far.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-26 14:01:43
December 26 2007 13:58 GMT
#10
(Z)Haran~
Crush more terrans with ultralisks! Revive KTF!

(Z)HoGiL, (Z)Kwanro and (P)SangHo are other prospects that could rise aswell.
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
December 26 2007 14:26 GMT
#11
I'm can decide between Haran and Guemchi. Voted Guemchi.
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Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
December 26 2007 14:52 GMT
#12
Mind would be the obvious choice, but I voted for Firefist.
O_o
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
December 26 2007 15:05 GMT
#13
HiyA maybe? I voted 815, but HiyA's 6-1 in PL IIRC (although, he looked like crap in most of those games).

Anyway, 815 has been sharp every time I've seen him play
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InsanitY
Profile Joined March 2003
Germany352 Posts
December 26 2007 15:22 GMT
#14
kwanro of course!
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-26 15:29:29
December 26 2007 15:28 GMT
#15
(T)sKyHigh - needs some more TV matches, and he's there.

(Z)HoGiL might do good too if he gets out of the ODT group with (T)Iris and (Z)July.
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
December 26 2007 16:44 GMT
#16
voted mind, I like Ruby though.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
December 26 2007 17:02 GMT
#17
Mind beat Bisu to win MSL
in a score of 3-1

yea
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
December 26 2007 17:31 GMT
#18
Best -_-

He raped Nal_rA in Proleague, I can see him as an up-and-coming player for '08
^-^
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
December 26 2007 17:35 GMT
#19
FIREFISTTT
FIREFISTTT
FIREFISTTT
FIREFISTTT
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
December 26 2007 17:54 GMT
#20
GuemChi =.=
Nothing worth doing is devoid of risk
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 26 2007 18:33 GMT
#21
Haran. Duh.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
December 26 2007 18:52 GMT
#22
Haran
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
December 26 2007 18:55 GMT
#23
Kal gogo
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Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada291 Posts
December 26 2007 19:05 GMT
#24
I really like 815's macro play, so go 815!
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
December 26 2007 19:31 GMT
#25
other hogil :D
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
December 26 2007 19:45 GMT
#26
Where is Kwanro? You could also add Jaedong since mind is on here.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
December 26 2007 20:02 GMT
#27
BOXER REBORN !!!

jd is olddd.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
December 26 2007 20:27 GMT
#28
Mind

I hope he can put some strenght in Wemade .
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
December 26 2007 21:06 GMT
#29
<3333 815!

Kal could probably be succesful as well.
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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
December 26 2007 21:28 GMT
#30
haran definately cause that game against mind was kickass.
If not him, 815
morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
December 26 2007 21:35 GMT
#31
other i chose
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
December 26 2007 22:04 GMT
#32
GO ruby!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 26 2007 22:28 GMT
#33
815 seems most likely, he's really really good
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Profile Joined December 2007
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-26 22:57:49
December 26 2007 22:57 GMT
#34
why isn't jaedong on here? or is he already a 'star player'
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intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
December 26 2007 22:58 GMT
#35
haran did pretty well in a few games in proleague
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 26 2007 23:10 GMT
#36
Firefist!

Zerg + cool name + potential
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
December 26 2007 23:30 GMT
#37
No doubt about Mind
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 27 2007 01:35 GMT
#38
815
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
December 27 2007 01:42 GMT
#39
Jaedong
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 27 2007 01:42 GMT
#40
Let's go, KTF Zergs!
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SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
December 27 2007 02:39 GMT
#41
Kal since mind is just assumed to be, he already won a title.

but if i had two votes i'd do kal/mind
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 27 2007 03:12 GMT
#42
I've got high hopes for Kal
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joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
December 27 2007 03:29 GMT
#43
Siz.Kal = VERY GOOD.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 27 2007 04:22 GMT
#44
FIREFIST!!
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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
December 27 2007 05:06 GMT
#45
Lee Young Ho, the one on KTF, not Lucifer, the 15 year old phenom who took the OSL by storm, he doesn't need to cheese to win anymore.

FLASH!!!
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
December 27 2007 05:08 GMT
#46
Should have put Boxer on the list of options just to see who chooses him.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 27 2007 05:24 GMT
#47
On December 27 2007 14:08 mikeymoo wrote:
Should have put Boxer on the list of options just to see who chooses him.


People would vote Boxer for anything, even if it says "who's the best Zerg player".
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2898 Posts
December 27 2007 05:32 GMT
#48
815 probably. he been impressive lately.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 27 2007 07:45 GMT
#49
On December 27 2007 14:24 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2007 14:08 mikeymoo wrote:
Should have put Boxer on the list of options just to see who chooses him.


People would vote Boxer for anything, even if it says "who's the best Zerg player".


True that
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-27 07:46:37
December 27 2007 07:46 GMT
#50
(Z)Haran is very dope. Super aggro, practices with CJ players and learns from none other than (Z)sAviOr.

True about the boxer thing... It's stupid
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greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
December 27 2007 07:52 GMT
#51
gonna say go.go
call me crazy if u wanna
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
December 27 2007 09:13 GMT
#52
KAL
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
December 27 2007 10:06 GMT
#53
I think hogil & haran will make it big soon~
aka StormtoSS
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
December 27 2007 10:07 GMT
#54
Sea.Jy
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
December 27 2007 11:01 GMT
#55
hogil
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 27 2007 11:31 GMT
#56
BEST[WHITE]
And all is illuminated.
Felagund
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines504 Posts
December 27 2007 11:50 GMT
#57
(T)Mind already won.

I like the KTF Zergs, although between 815 and (Z)Haran . . . I'd choose the player. -_-
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TomciO
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland414 Posts
December 27 2007 12:23 GMT
#58
Mind doesn't really fit here. He has already won the MSL while the rest of the list has only some appearances in ProLeague, Challenge League or Survivor Tournament. Anyway, my vote goes on 815, he seems to be really promising.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 27 2007 14:16 GMT
#59
voted 815

Mind is already a star player and it seems silly to put him in this list.
iOi
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada1255 Posts
December 27 2007 17:53 GMT
#60
Nal_keke !!
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
December 27 2007 20:06 GMT
#61
Canata ez :p
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
kw31
Profile Joined April 2007
Hong Kong162 Posts
December 28 2007 05:33 GMT
#62
Kwanro not listed?
To 囧 or not to 囧
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
December 28 2007 05:38 GMT
#63
On December 28 2007 14:33 kw31 wrote:
Kwanro not listed?


Pff Kwanro made it into the quarterfinals of a freaking STARLEAGUE, obviously he's not listed
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
December 28 2007 05:58 GMT
#64
....where is jaedong?
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
December 28 2007 06:22 GMT
#65
HARAN

YEAHHH
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 08:02:47
December 28 2007 07:57 GMT
#66
For zerg haran this guy's scourge usage is awesome
For terran ruby ruby 민찬기 im supporting you.

i dont consider mind cause he already won a msl.
If sheis just improves his tvp he will be awesome currently 8-0 vs zerg.
Hes 2-0 vs jaedong
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
December 28 2007 08:27 GMT
#67
Kal, Ruby, 815, mind. In truth though, Kal's recent pvp progress has made me begin to doubt my initial beliefs about him ...
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neshima
Profile Joined December 2007
37 Posts
December 28 2007 09:37 GMT
#68
people don't realize that individual league performance is MUCH different than team league performance.

i voted haran because i love him, but 815 would be my close second, although i hope both of them make individual league appearances in 08 =)
oov.bisu.haran.leta
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
December 28 2007 11:47 GMT
#69
Ruby/Kwanro

On December 28 2007 14:38 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2007 14:33 kw31 wrote:
Kwanro not listed?


Pff Kwanro made it into the quarterfinals of a freaking STARLEAGUE, obviously he's not listed


Pff Mind won MSL, obviously hes not listed. OH WAIT!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
December 28 2007 13:51 GMT
#70
Horribly made poll=/
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
December 28 2007 15:34 GMT
#71
GUEMCHI!
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CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
December 28 2007 18:34 GMT
#72
Sea[Shield] plz!
SNSD fan
demonic_phate
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 20:07:18
December 28 2007 20:01 GMT
#73
HoGil/Haran/KwanRo
cuz I support zerg >.> ^^
BusyP
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
December 28 2007 23:14 GMT
#74
Mind.
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Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
December 29 2007 18:01 GMT
#75
Haran or/and 815 =)
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
December 29 2007 18:17 GMT
#76
i still don't see why you have Mind and not JaeDong, if you didn't want people who were already doing good,w hy have mind? who 3-1ed bisu to win a starleague. But then again Mind was kind of random in doing that and hasn't shown much besides that, JaeDong was dominating all over the place before he dominated there (if we ignore the Bo5 vs ROCK)
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 29 2007 19:54 GMT
#77
well if you read 2nd post he said he picked players who seemed likely to become their team's proleague aces this year.
jaedong already is lecaf's proleague ace
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 29 2007 23:32 GMT
#78
Fuck the Mind bandwagon. Guemchi is going to rape
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
December 30 2007 04:32 GMT
#79
i had voted mind initially, but now i think i should have voted for ruby based off of his last few tvz's
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Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines545 Posts
December 30 2007 06:13 GMT
#80
3 words on who will dominate 08... boxer, boxer, and boxer... lol not likely but hey, daydreaming ain't illegal
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Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
December 30 2007 06:48 GMT
#81
Flash!!!!!

i think i am the only person who likes him and doesnt think he is a joke
jmascis
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
December 30 2007 13:43 GMT
#82
mind eZ
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 30 2007 23:24 GMT
#83
Mind or Ruby
w/e
TrainingMacro
Profile Joined July 2005
Netherlands91 Posts
December 31 2007 03:18 GMT
#84
BoxeR!
GANGBANGLINGS!!!! Starcraft II is gonna be imbalanced: terrans get Chuck Norris.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
December 31 2007 05:22 GMT
#85
mind of course -_-v
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Profile Joined December 2007
Philippines8 Posts
December 31 2007 17:38 GMT
#86
FireFist job well done for the year. If he might not be the new ace of WeMadeFOX, he is for sure the best Zerg on the team. ;p
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 31 2007 20:17 GMT
#87
Id pick mind although i hate to admit it....
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 01 2008 00:30 GMT
#88
Kal

I've been really impressed with his PL play this season.
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Profile Joined December 2007
Philippines8 Posts
January 01 2008 02:18 GMT
#89
Kal's peon raid is remarkable.
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Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
January 01 2008 15:10 GMT
#90
firefist... i have no clue who he is. But i like his name ... reminds me of some rpg special attack lawl...
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
January 01 2008 15:44 GMT
#91
People are crazy to vote Mind. It's SOOOO much harder to be a top player if you've already won something major.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 02 2008 07:06 GMT
#92
On January 01 2008 11:18 Erru wrote:
Kal's peon raid is remarkable.


eh?
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NoSkill
Profile Joined January 2008
United States18 Posts
January 02 2008 08:26 GMT
#93
I voted MIND ^^
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Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
January 02 2008 10:38 GMT
#94
Firefist, i love the name!
jeremy clarkson = god
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
January 02 2008 12:06 GMT
#95
FIREFIST IS AWESOME! he's such a funny guy too
AnyOne
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile547 Posts
January 02 2008 17:40 GMT
#96
KaL ez
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Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
January 02 2008 19:59 GMT
#97
I think definitely Mind will be a star player this year because he is still very young. He has just won an MSL and judging by how he handled himself in those games. It is clear that his game management is extremely excellent. His unit selection, his choice of battles, how he composes himself is just so fluid. It's almost like he's NaDa making good decisions all the time.
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China26351 Posts
January 03 2008 19:37 GMT
#98
WHERES HOGIL
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England3228 Posts
January 04 2008 20:36 GMT
#99
KaL or Ruby, voted Ruby.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
January 04 2008 21:45 GMT
#100
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houseurmusic
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States544 Posts
January 04 2008 23:58 GMT
#101
everyone is over looking ruby

ruby > stork
ruby > savior
ruby > luxery

I really think he might do something this year
Legitimus
Profile Joined January 2008
Spain8 Posts
January 06 2008 14:50 GMT
#102
Mind XD
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 06 2008 18:39 GMT
#103
On January 05 2008 08:58 houseurmusic wrote:
everyone is over looking ruby

ruby > stork
ruby > savior
ruby > luxery

I really think he might do something this year

ruby definitely has potential but those wins were kinda suspect. stork played like trash that day, for whatever reason, and savior lost because he messed around after taking a massive lead.
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