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Power Rank 11/21/2006 - Page 6

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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 22 2006 03:21 GMT
#101
honestly i dont think nal_ra belongs on the list at all
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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
November 22 2006 03:36 GMT
#102
--- Nuked ---
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-22 03:40:38
November 22 2006 03:36 GMT
#103
I can see now that what I was hoping to save for next month is going to have to come now. A similar write-up will be present with the posting of every list from this point on, but I thought--perhaps--I could get away without posting it to start. Apparently not. So, onward to the justifications...

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IPX - There's just no way to logically consider anyone else the hottest, most dominant player in progaming right now. He's won three of the last four MSLs, and he placed second in the one that he didn't win. Beyond that, he's into the ODT, and I can't even remember the last time he lost in the Proleague.

Anytime - This is a controversial choice, I know. But look at the players Anytime faced in getting to the OSL finals. Then watch his actual play. It's easy to look at the statistics and say, "Yo, Nada won 3-2 and had a better record in the tournament." Anytime faced harder players and displayed a greater degree of skill. If Arkanoid and Peaks weren't practically free wins TvP, I have no doubt that Anytime would have won the OSL with ease. And as an extra little nudge, Lecaf, under Anytime's stellar Proleague record, is current the #1 pro team.

Nada - He won the OSL and defeated both Reach and GoodFriend 3-0 in the weeks leading up to it. But he's just not in the same form as IPX or Anytime.

Midas - His semifinal performances have been lacking, but that doesn't change the fact that, on any given day, he can beat anyone in the world. His 2-3 losses to Anytime and Savior have been heartbreaking, and in both series, he's gone up 2-1, blown a huge game 4 lead, and just collapsed in game 5. If he learns to control his nerves, he'll be at the top of the game.

Sea - This is another controversial pick, but in terms of sheer scariness, no one out there has his combination of macro and multitasking. No one controls battles on multiple fronts while still macroing perfectly as well as Sea—no one. He needs to work on his TvZ, because it’s just not a matchup that lends itself to becoming a macro game, but once he figures that out, he’s going to be even more fearsome than he is already.

GGPlay – Argue with this pick all you want, but GGPlay has shown flat-out amazing ZvT and ZvZ as of late. There’s no shame in losing to Anytime 1-2. He’s also anchored his team in the Proleague for a very long time.

GoRush – Rush’s play in the OSL was strong enough for me to put him here. He advanced into the Ro8, losing 1-2 to Anytime in a series that could have easily gone 2-0 in the other direction.

Bisu – Bisu, while going 3-0 in his OSL group, managed to qualify for the upcoming MSL. A 1-2 loss to GoodFriend just doesn’t mean enough to condemn the fact that Bisu has the most potential of any young Protoss out there. He is without question the strongest player in his ODT group, and I expect him to make it into the OSL with ease.

Nal_Ra – This is my final controversial choice, but I’m going to ask you to cast aside your love for all things cheesy for just a moment and consider a few things: Ra would have been eliminated from his MSL group if Boxer had not had to go into the military. Ra did not make the last OSL. Ra cannot qualify for the coming OSL. KTF is in last place in the Proleague. Making it into the semifinals of the MSL by virtue of a gift and losing 1-3 to Savior is nice and all, but putting him any higher than #9 would be an affront to all the players that have qualified for multiple leagues and actually advanced by virtue of their own merit.

Jju – Jju might irritate me with his inconsistent play, but he is one of the only players to make and advance past the group stages of both Starleagues all while anchoring Khan in the Proleague. That’s enough for me to name him #10.

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Jaedong is not on the list not because I'm unaware of him or because I don't think he's currently on fire. He's not on the list because he hasn't done anything--yet. A bunch of Proleague wins and making an MSL is nice, but it's not enough to warrant placing him among players who have performed well against the very stiffest of competition. If Jaedong makes the OSL and/or wins a few games in a Starleague, that's when I'll say, "Yes, yes, yes," but as of right now, it just feels premature. We all saw what happened with Canata. He made both Starleagues and everyone was hailing him as the second coming of Jesus himself... and then he went 0-3, losing to one member of every race. The same policy of "show me something" applies to Free[gm]. I've got my eye on him, but I need more than a feeling to put him in such elite company.

GF, Iris, July, Zergman, Daezang, and Silver are all close calls, but they just don't quite measure up to the ten players I've selected.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
November 22 2006 03:41 GMT
#104
nice feature
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
November 22 2006 03:46 GMT
#105
Peaks free win TvP :o no?

Before the match everyone was saying it the other way around

Tau Cross and Peaks had even records. Dead even.

Arkanoid T bias
Arcadia II P bias.

So the maps didn't screw either player over :x

I'd say game 1, NaDa screwed up, not Anytime played insanely well. If NaDa goes no-turret style, he's asking to get stormed/reavered/whatever to pieces.

Game 2, both sides showed some amazing play, but NaDa no turret only-comsat? Insane.

Game 3, NaDa micro'd well. Anytime not so much. Maybe map imbalance, but NaDa's goliath micro was really quite insane.

Game 4, Anytime played better straight up.

Game 5, NaDa dominated :o it went exactly how he wanted it to go.

So... eh, I can't see how you can say Anytime played better than NaDa, and NaDa just won because of map imbalance :o
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Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
November 22 2006 03:47 GMT
#106
Oov is gonna hit most people like a train.
Why was he not in the OSL/MSL? >_<

I dont like oov that much, but I think he is good! Maybe not as good as Savior is now, but if anyone can compete against Savior, its gotta be Oov, or NaDa right now.

Anytime, lost too, no?
I kind of like Anytime ^^
Though I hate protoss
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-22 04:11:52
November 22 2006 04:00 GMT
#107
let me tell you a story about the protoss user.

the protoss user is cerebral. the protoss has no easy matchups. the protoss user walks a lonely road, the only one that he has ever known. the protoss user turns his face into the wind and walks with purpose. the protoss user is a snail, crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor to victory, and surviving.

he does not try to bend the imbalanced ZvP matchup. that's impossible. instead, the protoss user must realize the truth: that there is no matchup. it is not the matchup that is imbalanced, only himself.

the protoss user must learn to bury the unfairness with anger. the protoss user must confront it and face the truth. the protoss user knows how to fight with 12 units, he must learn how to engage twelve hundred. the protoss user knows how to disappear, he must learn how to become truly invisible. the protoss user understands that invisibility is a matter of patience, and creativity. the protoss user always minds his surroundings.

the ordinary progamer is just a man, lost in the scramble for his own gratification. he can be defeated, destroyed. to win, the protoss user must become more than just a man. if he can convince himself of the truth--then he can become something else entirely: a legend.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 22 2006 04:09 GMT
#108
to hot_bid:
man i wanted to copy your post. that was beautiful lol
And all is illuminated.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 22 2006 04:12 GMT
#109
haha its a combination of several movie lines.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
November 22 2006 04:36 GMT
#110
and a green day song
Vo-
Profile Joined November 2004
United States435 Posts
November 22 2006 04:41 GMT
#111
Anytime #1 ok?
GaG[SharKy]
Profile Joined November 2006
New Zealand221 Posts
November 22 2006 04:52 GMT
#112
i suppose not a bad list of top 10, of course everyone is going to be opinionated ( if theres such a word ) so i guess thanks for your effort in making the " power rank " system. though of course me being a protoss user, id put nal ra up one or two places :p just my view!
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
November 22 2006 05:17 GMT
#113
On November 22 2006 12:41 a-game wrote:
nice feature


On November 22 2006 13:41 a-game wrote:
lots of functionless arrogance, you act like you've got something to prove

if it was sarcasm, then it wasn't funny

By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 22 2006 05:26 GMT
#114
he probably posted "nice feature" before reading
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Ptak
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia43 Posts
November 22 2006 05:48 GMT
#115
savior power!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 22 2006 05:53 GMT
#116
im sorry etter.. i dont think anytime had the harder bracket...
In the group stages he lost MISERABLY to midas in disgusting fashion...
He beat a really sloppy looking julyzerg...
And played an abismal game against casy (which he only won because casy was cursed imo)...
Then in Ro16 he beat the onfire GGplay..
HOWEVER, GGplay looked very very average in comparison to his other games around that time, and even saying that... his dominance kinda died down alot last month..
Then against Gorush, anytime did play well, but i still wasnt convinced of anything becasue gorush has had a history of losing recently...
Against Midas, he SHOULD have lost the 4th set, but midas is a choke artist - basicly gifting him passage to the final where... he lost
Nada however, went 3-0 in his group beating out Jy, Light and Zergman.. all fearsome gamers (maybe not zergman hehe)
Nada then had to go through the ever cheesing TT- ie one mistake and it could be all over...
Nada then 2-0 zergman, who isnt exactly useless...
Nada then 3-0 Goodfriend who played very substandard but still was no push over
Nada then beat anytime 3-2
I refuse to beleive anytime had the harder bracket.. by looking at the names yes he did, but looking at each game he didnt..
Just my opinon... i also think gorish/gpplay is too high... Gorush hasnt been convincing at all recently and there are a number of gamers that could be there in his spot... like GF who is on a p killing rampage.. and ggplay deserves to be on the list, but his dominance is over..
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Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
November 22 2006 05:55 GMT
#117
nice feature ;d
keep it up Djetter ;] maybe more humor pls ~~;
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 22 2006 05:56 GMT
#118
Awesome post Hotbid!




I want to make a comment to all the people that are getting personal with their dislike of DJs opinions. Don't.

The point of this list is to open a debate about the top players. So speak your mind, suck the dick of your favourite pro that isn't on the list, talk about hypothetical "you'll see" situations for upcoming leagues. That's why this is fun.

But don't get all emo and start crying about how the list isn't fair to blahblahblah. DJ isn't jesus and the list isn't the bible. He's just starting the debate.


And for the record, his sarcastic comments cutting down players make it interesting. If he tried not to offend you nancy boys the article would be boring as hell. I rip apart players on a weekly basis when I report on them blowing it in pro games *coughmidasjjucough* and no one gets on my case about it. In fact, people enjoy it, because it makes the reports funny and opinionated.

So get over it.

I'm lovin' this DJ. This feature is going to kick ass once you get a couple installments out there and people get used to the point of it.
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tae
Profile Joined September 2006
United States101 Posts
November 22 2006 06:05 GMT
#119
Excellent justification of your choices on this page. Great job on the in depth analysis that goes in to making your selections.
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
November 22 2006 06:07 GMT
#120
I love the whole idea of the ranking, something I can look at and respect more than KeSpA. I agree with the whole list other than I think Daezang,Much, or free should take spot of Nal_ra. Gorush should be a off the list really imo and Silver should replace JJu.
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