Realistically, where do you think NaNiwa's GSL run will end?
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						  ) he will get knocked out... as i guess he's gonna beat Hero or Mvp, July is obv not too hard... Leenock would be pretty hard for him, but i think  he will win his group (leenock) €: well, maybe Parting is gonna get first in his group with his PvT ... than nani should have a good chance of getting to the final !! anyway, NaNiWa Fighting !!! | ||
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						 On April 18 2012 21:38 Qute wrote: Ro 4 vs Marineking (obv will be winner of gruop c  ) he will get knocked out... as i guess he's gonna beat Hero or Mvp, July is obv not too hard... Leenock would be pretty hard for him, but i think  he will win his group (leenock) €: well, maybe Parting is gonna get first in his group with his PvT ... than nani should have a good chance of getting to the final !! anyway, NaNiWa Fighting !!! Pretty much. Really looking forward to watching the matches, hope MKP gets second in his group and meets Nani in the finals. But more likely he will knock out Nani in ro4. | ||
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						 On April 18 2012 22:42 Scarecrow wrote: as soon as he hits a PvZ could be never | ||
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						 To be fair, he has to play the second place of the only group which has zergs (also this group has HerO; I pray that Naniwa vs HerO won't happen) | ||
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						 I would be happy if any player left in this won, they are all great and actually quite deserving. | ||
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						  Champion. | ||
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						 He will have to face either MarineKing, PartinG or any of the Group D players who are all looking so strong right now. I would love to see him take down these players but I see PartinG taking him down in RO4 | ||
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						 So now I have absolutely no clue !  | ||
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						  gogo Naniwa | ||
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						 If he meets Hero (which im assuming) it's either all or nothing like all PvP's he played thus far and july, got no idea... expect he ends 3rd, but you never know... anyway, after that it's parting or MKP who will beat him, so RO4 really | ||
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						 He is certainly capable of beating anybody of the other top players, even in Bo7 series; but of course the same can be said about other players that are in the Top 8 now, so anything can happen. Realistically I voted Ro4, but no outcome should be a surprise, even a GSL champion. | ||
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						 the poll didn't said how far do you want him to go. User was warned for this post | ||
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						 If he's in the right mindset, he could win it all. He has a chance, a 1 in 8 chance. | ||
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						 On April 19 2012 01:20 SayGen wrote: Lol I cna't beleive people vote so wrongly. It's ovious he wont' make it past Ro8 the poll didn't said how far do you want him to go. It was obvious earlier today he wasnt gonna go 4-0 in his group | ||
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						 Heart Answer: RO4 Cock Answer: GSL Champion! | ||
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						 Foreigners have won MLG's and beaten Koreans in various foreign tournaments, but nothing, in my opinion, has captured the same magic that Jinro delivered by making it to the semifinals in back-to-back seasons and taking the first game against MKP in the January season of Code S more than a year ago. If he can get to a finals, things are gonna get crazy on TeamLiquid and the atmosphere will be electric for the final. | ||
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						 Atop of all that, I want to see Tasteless and Artosis go absolutely batshit during the grand finals.  Naniwa fighting! <3 | ||
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						 PvZ luckily for him only Leenocks is terryfing ZvP player. PvT MKP and MVP are most likely gonna will defeat him (maybe MKP even crushes him) we'll see RO4 is my guess. | ||
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						 He has beaten MVP and Leenock within the past few months and has strong PvP that should have a good chance against HerO too. Depending on who he gets next, he COULD beat his Ro4 opponent if it's anyone but MarineKing. | ||
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						 On April 19 2012 02:11 DarkLordOlli wrote: Depends who he's playing in the Ro8. If he gets HerO, that might be the worst outcome for Nani because, well, PvP and Hero is pretty good at it. I do think he's actually favored against MVP or whoever decides to make it out of group B in 2nd place unless it's HerO. I think that match up would actually go in Nani's favor I mean he did beat Genius the runner up in the last GSL an beat Puzzle as well who's no joke. I would put Genius ahead of Hero in skill so I do believe that if paired against Hero Nani would come out victorious  | ||
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						 But seriously, I can definitely see him winning whoever he faces in Ro8, but the statistics are just against him when it comes to winning in the Ro4. | ||
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						  . Voted for runner-up | ||
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						 Anyway, I think he can take it. Sweden/foreigner fighting!! | ||
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						 On April 18 2012 21:32 0ne wrote: GSL champion obv so obv  | ||
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						 However, I'm pretty confident that MarineKing will go 1st in his group and then move on to RO4 and beat Naniwa there. | ||
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						 On April 18 2012 22:09 Whynaut wrote: I have to wait on his ro8 opponent - no point guessing right now. With that logic you might as well wait until the final to narrow down the odds more! The point of a prediction is so that you try a figure out who he will play and what his odds are. Anyways, I have a feeling that MVP might be doable. But beyond that... well, we can hope. | ||
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						 On April 20 2012 02:44 Berk wrote: With that logic you might as well wait until the final to narrow down the odds more! The point of a prediction is so that you try a figure out who he will play and what his odds are. Anyways, I have a feeling that MVP might be doable. But beyond that... well, we can hope. In this case, untrue. He didn't know if it'd be MVP (nani 50%+ chance) or leenock (nani 30%+ chance?). Anyhow, if first barrier is way too hard, there's no point trying to foresee further. If we think where his run ends at this point, the only sensible logic is to wait until ro8 opponent is known. And now it is. | ||
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						 Oh wait, "realistic" is the right word. | ||
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						  I want both Mvp and NaNiwa to do well and get atleast Ro4  This tournament is getting far to unpredictable! Ro32 groups can be harder than Ro4 these days! | ||
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						 On April 20 2012 04:49 CFCryptos wrote: he's going to lose to marineking obviously naniwa is trash. All he does is all in anyway he can go kill himself for all anyone cares This is supposed to be a troll right? All koreans do "all in" builds I've seen MKP do it numerous times. I've seen Naniwa do plenty of macro games especially in PvT there is only the 2 base collosus timing thats viable and thats a legitimate response to a greedy terran. Otherwise PvT always goes late game, unless the terran does any one of the numerous builds that can end it early if not defended correctly. | ||
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						 naniwa ro4, yet my heart says mvp  | ||
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						 On April 18 2012 21:33 MrMotionPicture wrote: With how he has been playing, I think he can make it to the finals. Let's hope! Go Naniwa! But then again with who he has been playing and whom he still has to play. Im going with Ro8. | ||
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						 Now will he? How far will he get? Making the finals would be a bit too much to expect of him, hence my vote of reaching the semi finals and then losing against Parting. | ||
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						 On April 20 2012 03:20 Ouga wrote: In this case, untrue. He didn't know if it'd be MVP (nani 50%+ chance) or leenock (nani 30%+ chance?). Anyhow, if first barrier is way too hard, there's no point trying to foresee further. If we think where his run ends at this point, the only sensible logic is to wait until ro8 opponent is known. And now it is. That's predicting a match at a time, not predicting how far he will go. | ||
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						 On April 20 2012 09:52 Ventor wrote: He won't get by MVP, if you think otherwise than it's clear that you have a heavy foreigner bias. I wish people would stop cheering for foreigners because they themselves are foreign, it's stupid. What? Then no white guy will ever get fans / support lol. I'm not a Naniwa fan but I thought this was kind of silly. I personally think he'll make Ro4. | ||
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						 I think if he and MarineKing were to meet in a final (which now won't happen due to seeding), it would cause an implosion so large that the GOM studio would be engulfed in a black hole, within a day the the whole of South Korea and eventually the whole world. But in all seriousness, it depends on who NaNi meets in Ro4. I am confident he can take down Mvp as Protoss seem somewhat favoured in PvT at the moment, even something strong TvPers like Polt are slowly starting to admit. It depends on Mvp's wrist strength and what NaNi has planned in order to combat him. As for Ro4 opponents? Terran wise: TaeJa and MarineKing are major threats, especially since MarineKong has an ultra aggressive TvP style that has worked wonders for him so far. TheStC isn't such a menace and Parting could be a threat although his PvP is mixed. Anyway, I voted runner up because I think Leenock, Squirtle, MC or HerO could eliminate him in a PvZ/PvP finals However, MC hasn't exactly had a brilliant track record against foeigners in PvP. He's been schooled by HuK and NaNiwa a few times before. Ideally, I want NaNi to take a GSL. | ||
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						 On April 20 2012 04:49 CFCryptos wrote: he's going to lose to marineking obviously naniwa is trash. All he does is all in anyway he can go kill himself for all anyone cares User was temp banned for this post. Only temp banned? | ||
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						 Mvp isn't known for his TvP, he has wrists problems and TvP is very hard for the T in the current metagame/GSL mappool, however it's freakin' Mvp : he has time to rest & prepare, come up with builds, he won't lose his composure and it's very very hard to stop Mvp when he is able to prepare. Therefore I give NaNiwa a 50% chance to beat him. If he manages to beat Mvp, I think I read somewhere that he might be against MarineKing. That's where his run will end, it's MarineKing. | ||
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						 Realistically (and slightly optimistically) he'll beat Parting in the semis and then lose to MKP in the final. | ||
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						 On April 18 2012 21:38 Qute wrote: Ro 4 vs Marineking (obv will be winner of gruop c  ) he will get knocked out... as i guess he's gonna beat Hero or Mvp, July is obv not too hard... Leenock would be pretty hard for him, but i think  he will win his group (leenock) €: well, maybe Parting is gonna get first in his group with his PvT ... than nani should have a good chance of getting to the final !! anyway, NaNiWa Fighting !!! I know he did it once before, but i don't see NaNiwa beating MVP... | ||
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						 On April 21 2012 13:41 Xinflames wrote: I know he did it once before, but i don't see NaNiwa beating MVP... Why not? Naniwa is on fire and MVP is having severe wrist issues. I think Naniwa has the best chances to beat MVP now, maintaining his winning record against MVP. | ||
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						 ... hopefully  | ||
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						 edit: BTW, how the hell can naniwa not be in the top 5 of the TLPD international? He is atleast 90x better than all of them except stephano who'm is the only foreigner who could challenge naniwa as the best player outside of korea right now. | ||
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						 edit: On April 22 2012 00:46 Fizzy wrote: my heart shouts champion, but my brain says runner-up edit: BTW, how the hell can naniwa not be in the top 5 of the TLPD international? He is atleast 90x better than all of them except stephano who'm is the only foreigner who could challenge naniwa as the best player outside of korea right now. Well, since TLPD is rating based, you can not be on top there while not winning a lot of international games. | ||
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						 On April 22 2012 00:46 Fizzy wrote: my heart shouts champion, but my brain says runner-up edit: BTW, how the hell can naniwa not be in the top 5 of the TLPD international? He is atleast 90x better than all of them except stephano who'm is the only foreigner who could challenge naniwa as the best player outside of korea right now. *Except [He, Stephano][ [Who] is the only foreigner who could challenge naniwa. There is no Apostrophe in Whom, also. | ||
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						 i guess all haters have finally crawled up and died go nani | ||
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						 yeah, got owned at Dreamhack against sLivko (who??), Nerchio (foreigner) or HyuN. Massive luck and a one time success that he even made it to Top 8, but he will get raped by anyone he faces there now. aLive should be there, almost guaranteed to get the Code S title this time. oh well next season after death meching EmoKingPrime~ | ||
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						 But I'm predicting him to lose to MKP(as I hope he will get first of his group) in the Ro4. Eventhough I would have loved to see him in the finals, and maybe champion. | ||
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						 (Also kinda hope he looks at the poll and gets fired up to prove us all wrong) (Also assuming he will never read this) | ||
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						 Regardless of my realistic predictions, my heart says Champion. | ||
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						 On April 24 2012 06:02 Rarkon wrote:t I want MVP to win GSL, but if Naniwa beats MVP then I'll want him to win GSL out of the remaining players. signed ! MVP would be the most deserving champion out of all the remaining players. the guy has to fight against both psychological stress and pain due to the carpal syndrome. he will kill nani, like a true fucking bonjwa ! | ||
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							Theovide
							
							
						 
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						 On April 23 2012 08:07 SilentBonjwa wrote: lol , funny to see how overrated he becomes now. won some mirrors and vs tier 3 terrans like Virus ? yeah, got owned at Dreamhack against sLivko (who??), Nerchio (foreigner) or HyuN. Massive luck and a one time success that he even made it to Top 8, but he will get raped by anyone he faces there now. aLive should be there, almost guaranteed to get the Code S title this time. oh well next season after death meching EmoKingPrime~ His PvZ obviously sucks right now, but I was talking to him in Dreamhack and he said he was most confident in PvT, which is amazing considering how good his PvP is. | ||
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							Leviance
							
							
						 
						Germany4079 Posts
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							Reflect.702
							
							
						 
						Canada16 Posts
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							pt
							
							
						 
						United States813 Posts
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							sickthink
							
							
						 
						United States60 Posts
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							Cascade
							
							
						 
						Australia5405 Posts
						 On April 25 2012 16:40 sickthink wrote: I voted him for champion. Don't know why... I did too as I took the "realistically" in the question as a provocation.  | ||
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							jianming
							
							
						 
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							TheQuixotic
							
							
						 
						36 Posts
						 On April 25 2012 14:46 pt wrote: i think nani will roll over hero He's against Mvp next round. The only way he'll hit hero is if both of them make it into the finals. Regardless, Naniwa's chances would normally be a lot worse, but there are absolutely no Zergs left in contention. PvZ is his real shortcoming as a player, but it's one we won't have to face. Realistically I can seem him making it to any round. He'll be the underdog every time for sure, but his PvT and PvP solid enough that anything could happen. | ||
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							Psychobabas
							
							
						 
						2531 Posts
						 But I won't be surprised if he makes it to the finals. The guy's determination is scary. | ||
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							Clues
							
							
						 
						United States186 Posts
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							WindOw
							
							
						 
						Sweden407 Posts
						  if anyone can do it its nani! | ||
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							JeffS
							
							
						 
						Canada31 Posts
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							Carbonthief
							
							
						 
						United States289 Posts
						 GSL champion. He absolutely has the capability. That's not to say I think he is the best player left in this season, but he certainly is capable of beating them (no zergs, no problem). | ||
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							GodOfWar
							
							
						 
						870 Posts
						 On April 24 2012 23:04 Theovide wrote: His PvZ obviously sucks right now, but I was talking to him in Dreamhack and he said he was most confident in PvT, which is amazing considering how good his PvP is. not good enough for MC or PartinG imo. | ||
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							Champi
							
							
						 
						1422 Posts
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							EvilDet
							
							
						 
						Germany130 Posts
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							The_DarkAngelz
							
							
						 
						Brazil221 Posts
						 one error costs the game...its a damn thing ! | ||
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							Caddy
							
							
						 
						United Kingdom178 Posts
						 Still, you never know what can happen. Naniwa fighting! | ||
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							Sonic Death Monkey
							
							
						 
						Sweden991 Posts
						 I think he's got a realistic chance to beat anyone, thus I voted GSL champ. However, statistically, his most likely result is most definitely to go out in RO8, but that is true for ALL remaining players. | ||
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							lahara
							
							
						 
						Germany140 Posts
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							parkin
							
							
						 
						1081 Posts
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							OlSpiced
							
							
						 
						Austria96 Posts
						 You never now who will win a PvP, and Nani knows how to flip the coin. He has a chance at being the Champion but he isn't favored in any match, i hope that he gets past Mvp and has to face a lot of Protoss, then his chances are not that bad. | ||
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							Alvalanker
							
							
						 
						United States253 Posts
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							KhAmun
							
							
						 
						United States1005 Posts
						 On April 27 2012 22:30 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: The question is not formulated very well. I think he's got a realistic chance to beat anyone, thus I voted GSL champ. However, statistically, his most likely result is most definitely to go out in RO8, but that is true for ALL remaining players. No it's formatted adequately, it's asking realistically, where do YOU THINK it will end. It's asking your opinion on how the games will go, not whether you think he has the potential to be champion. | ||
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							Swiv
							
							
						 
						Germany3674 Posts
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							Eufouria
							
							
						 
						United Kingdom4425 Posts
						 Also Naniwa is practicing vs Bomber, who has always had a strong TvP and he lives with PartinG, who has the best PvT. I think if Naniwa beats MVP he will beat the winner of Oz vs PartinG, and I think Naniwa might well beat MVP with how hard he's training. Also its looking like a likely PvP final so you never know... | ||
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							Clazziquai10
							
							
						 
						Singapore1949 Posts
						 If hero can beat Mvp I don't see why Naniwa can't. If he gets past Mvp it will be a PvP which Naniwa stands a high chance of winning. NANIWA!!! I BELIEVE!!! | ||
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							str10_hurts
							
							
						 
						Netherlands12 Posts
						 Still cant imagine him winning a GSL. In the finals the player usually wins with the better (player countering) builds versus certain opponents, in my personal observation that is. All of the possible runner-ups facing Naniwa excel at this. This is also why I eventually voted Naniwa stopping in the round of 8, MVP gets better results the higher he gets in the GSL due to the increasing amount of preparation he has. | ||
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							Fizzy
							
							
						 
						Sweden388 Posts
						 But im afraid Hero will beat nani in the finals, i dont know why or how, but there is something about Hero that just screams CHAMPION atm. edit: and who does not want to see a foreginer become champion?  | ||
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							jtixs
							
							
						 
						United Kingdom150 Posts
						 And then It will most likely be PvP all the way to the final which is the great equaliser between foreigners and Koreans so It is very hard to predict but I think he loses in Ro4 to Parting | ||
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							Slangen
							
							
						 
						Sweden1166 Posts
						 On April 18 2012 22:42 Scarecrow wrote: as soon as he hits a PvZ I for one dont see his PvZ as his weak point. He is solid in all three matchups! Rushes against him is the scary part, hes good at holding those tho. | ||
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							Shield
							
							
						 
						Bulgaria4824 Posts
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							Son of Gnome
							
							
						 
						United States777 Posts
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