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Realistically, where do you think NaNiwa's GSL run will end?

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0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 12:32:46
April 18 2012 12:32 GMT
#1
GSL champion obv
Stackemp
Profile Joined August 2011
England2 Posts
April 18 2012 12:32 GMT
#2
I have faith in NaNiwa. Champion.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
April 18 2012 12:33 GMT
#3
With how he has been playing, I think he can make it to the finals. Let's hope! Go Naniwa!
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 18 2012 12:33 GMT
#4
would love it if he made the final : )
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Qute
Profile Joined October 2011
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 12:40:11
April 18 2012 12:38 GMT
#5
Ro 4 vs Marineking (obv will be winner of gruop c ) he will get knocked out... as i guess he's gonna beat Hero or Mvp, July is obv not too hard... Leenock would be pretty hard for him, but i think he will win his group (leenock)

€: well, maybe Parting is gonna get first in his group with his PvT ... than nani should have a good chance of getting to the final !!

anyway, NaNiWa Fighting !!!
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
April 18 2012 12:57 GMT
#6
Voted ro4 but could be ro8 as well depending on the opponent he gets.
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
April 18 2012 13:06 GMT
#7
Ro4, based on my prediction that he'll face HerO Ro8 (unfortunately)
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Whynaut
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada367 Posts
April 18 2012 13:09 GMT
#8
I have to wait on his ro8 opponent - no point guessing right now.
RexCogitans
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway37 Posts
April 18 2012 13:16 GMT
#9
On April 18 2012 21:38 Qute wrote:
Ro 4 vs Marineking (obv will be winner of gruop c ) he will get knocked out... as i guess he's gonna beat Hero or Mvp, July is obv not too hard... Leenock would be pretty hard for him, but i think he will win his group (leenock)

€: well, maybe Parting is gonna get first in his group with his PvT ... than nani should have a good chance of getting to the final !!

anyway, NaNiWa Fighting !!!


Pretty much. Really looking forward to watching the matches, hope MKP gets second in his group and meets Nani in the finals. But more likely he will knock out Nani in ro4.
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greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
April 18 2012 13:21 GMT
#10
At least this poll isn't spoiling everything, haha.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
April 18 2012 13:29 GMT
#11
most likly ro8 since he isnt confident with his PvZ and its a 50% chance his opponent will be a zerg. Though if not, I think runner up, nerves will get to him in the final.
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
April 18 2012 13:35 GMT
#12
If he passes RO8 (potential zerg) i really think he could win this..... Anyway he did great so far really hoping the best for him !
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DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
April 18 2012 13:36 GMT
#13
Well, it depends who flops in Group B --> If it's Leenock, July, or Hero, he can take it. If it's MVP, he's boned. Based on chances alone, I feel he can make Ro4, but anything higher is pushing it.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 18 2012 13:42 GMT
#14
as soon as he hits a PvZ
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
April 18 2012 13:50 GMT
#15
obviously depends on his pairings but i voted RO8 hoping he will prove me wrong, have been avoiding voting him on the liquibet and works great so far !
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NevenGaming
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway29 Posts
April 18 2012 13:55 GMT
#16
I do have faith in my favorite player! NaNiwa go for championship!
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hillman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States162 Posts
April 18 2012 14:20 GMT
#17
would love to see him ball out but I doubt he'll make it past RO8
hillman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States162 Posts
April 18 2012 14:20 GMT
#18
On April 18 2012 22:42 Scarecrow wrote:
as soon as he hits a PvZ


could be never
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 18 2012 14:27 GMT
#19
On April 18 2012 23:20 hillman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 22:42 Scarecrow wrote:
as soon as he hits a PvZ


could be never


To be fair, he has to play the second place of the only group which has zergs (also this group has HerO; I pray that Naniwa vs HerO won't happen)
Underkoffer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands53 Posts
April 18 2012 14:32 GMT
#20
Since I think marineking is the only player that he can't beat I'd say RO4.
Resi
Profile Joined November 2011
England10 Posts
April 18 2012 14:39 GMT
#21
I'm going to say the ro8 but it all depends on who he plays imo so he could further.
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SmuZ
Profile Joined March 2012
Romania45 Posts
April 18 2012 14:41 GMT
#22
I hope that someone can beat this guy, I hate him , he is so ugly and has bm, so I think he won't pass or even arrive to Ro 4

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Thewildfish
Profile Joined September 2010
United States113 Posts
April 18 2012 14:47 GMT
#23
GSL Champ! go big or go home.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 18 2012 14:57 GMT
#24
My guess is ro4, he is a great player and winning one more bo5 seems plausible. I don't see him advancing past that but it really depends on his draw. Well done on securing his code S spot for next season though, he far exceeded my expectations.
I would be happy if any player left in this won, they are all great and actually quite deserving.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 18 2012 15:00 GMT
#25
As if I would ever vote realistically on a TL poll. For as long as I can remember, I've always voted for what I want to happen.

Champion.
Caltu
Profile Joined May 2011
60 Posts
April 18 2012 15:04 GMT
#26
Round Of 4 I say.

He will have to face either MarineKing, PartinG or any of the Group D players who are all looking so strong right now.
I would love to see him take down these players but I see PartinG taking him down in RO4
xenofox
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada43 Posts
April 18 2012 15:05 GMT
#27
He just walked over last season's runner-up, so you can't deny he's a solid contender for the championship.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
April 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#28
Ro8 I think, he goes to DreamHack this weekend to maybe reveal too much of his playing style to his future Ro8 opponent. But if he can practice really hard for the match he can get to Ro4 where he most likely gets stomped :3
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 18 2012 15:10 GMT
#29
Realistically, I thought he was going out in the ro32.

So now I have absolutely no clue !
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Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 15:15:15
April 18 2012 15:15 GMT
#30
He could make ro4 if he gets a good match-up for him. Hope champion. Think ro8 though

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Cubikill
Profile Joined March 2012
United States31 Posts
April 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#31
Group B I feel like HerO will make it out in the first spot( yes i am a HerO and Liquid fanboy) and leenock in second place. NaNi has a fairly good chance of winning vs leenock. So I say RO4 were he loses to MKP. I would love to see him win vs MKP(if MKP gets to the RO4, he really should) but I don't see it. But if NaNi makes it to the RO4 Sweden will be the second best nation when it comes to Starcraft 2 without a doubt
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
April 18 2012 15:32 GMT
#32
dont see why people are saying he's gonna have a hard time against leenock (worst matchup for both, so equally hard) or mvp: he showed good PvT today and MVP is not the best TvP'er...
If he meets Hero (which im assuming) it's either all or nothing like all PvP's he played thus far
and july, got no idea... expect he ends 3rd, but you never know...
anyway, after that it's parting or MKP who will beat him, so RO4 really
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 18 2012 15:33 GMT
#33
Personally I wish him that he doesn't think about such things now at all, and just focus on each opponent and each game, and give it his best.

He is certainly capable of beating anybody of the other top players, even in Bo7 series; but of course the same can be said about other players that are in the Top 8 now, so anything can happen. Realistically I voted Ro4, but no outcome should be a surprise, even a GSL champion.
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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
April 18 2012 15:34 GMT
#34
For the first time in a long time (since Jinro), I have no idea where a foreigner will stop. One thing to consider is that Naniwa has not played a zerg opponent yet, so maybe then? Still not sure though....
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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
April 18 2012 15:40 GMT
#35
When there are no more champions left to fell, only then will he stop :D
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 18 2012 15:44 GMT
#36
I predict Naniwa's Ro8 opponent to be Leenock, who has beaten Nani decisively before and will do it again. MVP wouldn't be an easier opponent either. Against Hero or July, on the other hand, Naniwa has every chance of advancing.
Luftmensch
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
277 Posts
April 18 2012 16:05 GMT
#37
I think that the only player he could beat in Ro8 is Hero and that is also not sure so I guess that's where he'll go out.
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laguu
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland278 Posts
April 18 2012 16:11 GMT
#38
Depends 100% who he faces in the bracket so pretty useless to poll this right now...
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gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
April 18 2012 16:14 GMT
#39
silver
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
April 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#40
Lol I cna't beleive people vote so wrongly. It's ovious he wont' make it past Ro8
the poll didn't said how far do you want him to go.

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dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
April 18 2012 16:30 GMT
#41
He's a momentum player. If the games were played all yesterday, he could win it all.... if he gets on a roll like he was yesterday he could win it all.

If he's in the right mindset, he could win it all.

He has a chance, a 1 in 8 chance.
essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
April 18 2012 16:43 GMT
#42
Potential oppoents Leenock, July, Hero and Mvp. The only one I think Naniwa can't beat would be Mvp at the moment :\.
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Woj
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States133 Posts
April 18 2012 16:52 GMT
#43
Ro4, Loses to MKP <3
MuATaran
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada231 Posts
April 18 2012 17:04 GMT
#44
I am gonna go with my heart on this one GSL champ of coarse
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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
April 18 2012 17:06 GMT
#45
On April 19 2012 01:20 SayGen wrote:
Lol I cna't beleive people vote so wrongly. It's ovious he wont' make it past Ro8
the poll didn't said how far do you want him to go.

It was obvious earlier today he wasnt gonna go 4-0 in his group
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
April 18 2012 17:08 GMT
#46
Hes got a good shot if he doesnt meet up with Leenock or July to take it all
Im just a zerg
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
April 18 2012 17:11 GMT
#47
Depends who he's playing in the Ro8. If he gets HerO, that might be the worst outcome for Nani because, well, PvP and Hero is pretty good at it. I do think he's actually favored against MVP or whoever decides to make it out of group B in 2nd place unless it's HerO.
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dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
April 18 2012 17:31 GMT
#48
He can make it. I think he can go all the way
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Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 18 2012 17:33 GMT
#49
Champion, no bias.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
April 18 2012 17:46 GMT
#50
RO4, just like Jinro.
modesttoss
Profile Joined June 2011
United States221 Posts
April 18 2012 17:58 GMT
#51
If he keeps playing like he has been, I see a GSL Championship in his hands. I BELIEVE!
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
April 18 2012 18:05 GMT
#52
RO8, Artosis put the curse on him. There can be no victory now.
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Wensleydale
Profile Joined January 2012
United States10 Posts
April 18 2012 18:10 GMT
#53
Brain Answer: RO8
Heart Answer: RO4
Cock Answer: GSL Champion!
riderLyrae
Profile Joined May 2011
United States45 Posts
April 18 2012 18:21 GMT
#54
I think he could make it to the championship match, but the odds are against him...
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
April 18 2012 18:28 GMT
#55
I looked at the players left in RO16, and Jesus, Code S is really scary these days. I think Naniwa will put up a good fight in the RO8, but that will be the end of his run.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 18 2012 18:59 GMT
#56
Realistically, Ro4. If he can stay clear of MVP in the quarterfinals and then Oz/Squirtle/MarineKing/Taeja in the semifinals, he has a definite shot of making the finals. His PvP and PvT look strong and with the lack of Zergs, especially ones with good ZvP, he has a good road. Again, though, this is the top eight of the GSL and anyone he faces in the quarterfinals is going to have two weeks to fully prepare for him. They will solely focus on playing Naniwa and put everything they have into only preparing for him, so it's going to be the hardest Bo5 of his career either way. A semifinal would be huge not only for himself, but for the foreign community as well.

Foreigners have won MLG's and beaten Koreans in various foreign tournaments, but nothing, in my opinion, has captured the same magic that Jinro delivered by making it to the semifinals in back-to-back seasons and taking the first game against MKP in the January season of Code S more than a year ago. If he can get to a finals, things are gonna get crazy on TeamLiquid and the atmosphere will be electric for the final.
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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
April 18 2012 19:15 GMT
#57
If marineking places second in his group, we should see a naniwa/marineking finals right? I would say runner up in that case. otherwise ro4 probably. mkp is one tough cookie.
dogmeatstew
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada574 Posts
April 18 2012 19:19 GMT
#58
However long it takes him to hit mkp >.>
CreatorGX
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
April 18 2012 19:20 GMT
#59
I hope, I hope against hope that he can make it all the way. I want him to be the example that people can use to show that skill knows no nation. I want Naniwa to win it all, even with a lot of my favorite players still locked in Code S.

Atop of all that, I want to see Tasteless and Artosis go absolutely batshit during the grand finals.

Naniwa fighting! <3
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 18 2012 19:26 GMT
#60
tbh i think hes gone further than hes supposed to already. if i were fair, i still think genius is a better player than him and virus is no chobo either.
MFMulti
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden69 Posts
April 18 2012 20:13 GMT
#61
If Leenock doesn't advance Nani wins. If Leenock does advance, nani still beat him in a epic series and takes the win! NANI #1 ♥
glhf ♥
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 18 2012 20:58 GMT
#62
People say MVP will destroy Nani... are they forgetting Nani has beaten MVP fairly easily in the past?
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DrHiggins
Profile Joined April 2012
United States26 Posts
April 18 2012 21:11 GMT
#63
I hope he gets GSL champion! Who knows how far he can go though. Marineking is going to be really difficult to get past since he has some of the best TvP in the game, but I hope he goes all the way. At any rate it's nice to see a foreigner get to the RO8 for the first time since I think HuK did it a while ago. Good luck NaNiWa!
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
April 18 2012 21:31 GMT
#64
Ro4 then he will face someone really good
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Zenithsc2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 21:42:04
April 18 2012 21:37 GMT
#65
RO4
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Zenithsc2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States23 Posts
April 18 2012 21:41 GMT
#66
RO4 at most... it would be really awkward if he actually wins because most of the people aren't gonna cheer for him -_- I'M ROOTING FOR MarineKingPrime :D
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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
April 18 2012 22:28 GMT
#67
Champion would be astronomical, Runner up fantastic, Ro4 awesome and Ro8 is already effing great! No matter what, Nani showed that Koreans can be beaten. You just have to have the same dedication and ambition as them.
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Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
April 18 2012 22:43 GMT
#68
I think he can beat anyone in an PvP atm.
PvZ luckily for him only Leenocks is terryfing ZvP player.
PvT MKP and MVP are most likely gonna will defeat him (maybe MKP even crushes him)
we'll see RO4 is my guess.
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INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
April 18 2012 23:06 GMT
#69
CHAMP
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
April 18 2012 23:31 GMT
#70
I think he can beat his potential Ro8 opponents.

He has beaten MVP and Leenock within the past few months and has strong PvP that should have a good chance against HerO too.

Depending on who he gets next, he COULD beat his Ro4 opponent if it's anyone but MarineKing.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
April 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#71
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NozliW_
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile70 Posts
April 18 2012 23:55 GMT
#72
I really hope NaNiwa gets to the finals, but I think he will lose on Ro4..
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
April 19 2012 00:58 GMT
#73
Tbh, with so many champions already knocked out, the only people I can see beating naniwa are Oz, Taeja, and MarineKing. Maybe Leenock but he's still a little iffy in PvZ.
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refmac_cys.cys
Profile Joined June 2010
United States177 Posts
April 19 2012 01:01 GMT
#74
Ro4, because Jinro will still hold the best foreign performance in the GSL until he makes it back into Code A. We can call it the Soju curse.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
April 19 2012 01:03 GMT
#75
GSL Champion.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 19 2012 01:07 GMT
#76
There's no reason why Naniwa can't win the whole thing. Will he? Not likely, but he has just as good a shot as anyone else.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
April 19 2012 01:46 GMT
#77
Naniwa has been playing extremely well recently, but I doubt he could make it to the finals quite yet. He does have that potential, but I feel that a RO4 placement is quite reasonable. Yes, he is playing some of the best Starcraft in his career, but the Korean factor is a major factor, and could stop his GSL run.
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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
April 19 2012 02:24 GMT
#78
go champion go
just to piss off the haters
make people turn heads
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Profile Joined March 2011
United States64 Posts
April 19 2012 02:42 GMT
#79
Runner up for sure
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Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
April 19 2012 02:52 GMT
#80
On April 19 2012 02:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Depends who he's playing in the Ro8. If he gets HerO, that might be the worst outcome for Nani because, well, PvP and Hero is pretty good at it. I do think he's actually favored against MVP or whoever decides to make it out of group B in 2nd place unless it's HerO.

I think that match up would actually go in Nani's favor I mean he did beat Genius the runner up in the last GSL an beat Puzzle as well who's no joke. I would put Genius ahead of Hero in skill so I do believe that if paired against Hero Nani would come out victorious
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grindl
Profile Joined December 2010
United States6 Posts
April 19 2012 03:31 GMT
#81
My gut says Ro4, and it's usually right about such things.

But seriously, I can definitely see him winning whoever he faces in Ro8, but the statistics are just against him when it comes to winning in the Ro4.
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 19 2012 05:37 GMT
#82
Well so far he has beaten everybody... Including the runner-up of last season. So I'd say he has a fair chance of adv to RO4...Something tells me he'll win there aswell, but lose in the final . Voted for runner-up
brobrah
Profile Joined April 2011
220 Posts
April 19 2012 06:32 GMT
#83
If he gets July he has a shot, I think. Maybe Hero too since his PvP looks strong. I have Leenock in 2nd for group B and I think Leenock can take him out so I say RO8, Regis. Final answer.
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skAnarky
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada140 Posts
April 19 2012 07:10 GMT
#84
Hes focused and dedicated. While its tough, I say him making the finals is in the cards.
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
April 19 2012 07:17 GMT
#85
I think ro8 or r4 Depending on the Opponent. i think he was underestimated by a lot of korean like genius did. But if they treat him as really a dangerous threat then it would be different.
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ConRa
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden42 Posts
April 19 2012 08:14 GMT
#86
I actually think he can become the season 2 GSL champion. His play so far has been outstanding, crushing through the Koreans. I don't know why but I have this feeling his weakest match up is Zerg. It might be because that match up seems to be very random.

Anyway, I think he can take it. Sweden/foreigner fighting!!
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Panzerfaust7
Profile Joined May 2011
United States38 Posts
April 19 2012 08:35 GMT
#87
im surprised he got this far. he will be knocked out asap
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Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
April 19 2012 10:01 GMT
#88
Runner- Up, with MKP on the 1st place.
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wanghis
Profile Joined July 2011
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 11:32:38
April 19 2012 11:31 GMT
#89
if he can get Huk's level of luck in getting protoss opponents he could viably make it to the finals...
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Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark56 Posts
April 19 2012 14:29 GMT
#90
well, i see naniwa as a far better player than such people as leenock and genious, so i think he might be able to win vs mkp in the finals.
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Profile Joined February 2011
Norway17 Posts
April 19 2012 14:33 GMT
#91
If nani wasn't going to dreamhack I think he would make it far, but as it is I don't think he will get enough practice time to beat MVP
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United States5491 Posts
April 19 2012 16:19 GMT
#92
On April 18 2012 21:32 0ne wrote:
GSL champion obv

so obv
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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
April 19 2012 17:19 GMT
#93
If he meets MarineKing in RO4, then his adventure stops there. Otherwise he will go to the finals!
However, I'm pretty confident that MarineKing will go 1st in his group and then move on to RO4 and beat Naniwa there.
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Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
April 19 2012 17:22 GMT
#94
Naniwa will lose to Mvp (and all my other Code S predictions so far have been quite bad, so we'll see...)
Berk
Profile Joined August 2010
27 Posts
April 19 2012 17:44 GMT
#95
On April 18 2012 22:09 Whynaut wrote:
I have to wait on his ro8 opponent - no point guessing right now.


With that logic you might as well wait until the final to narrow down the odds more! The point of a prediction is so that you try a figure out who he will play and what his odds are.

Anyways, I have a feeling that MVP might be doable. But beyond that... well, we can hope.
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
April 19 2012 18:07 GMT
#96
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Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark134 Posts
April 19 2012 18:09 GMT
#97
I think he'll be able to defeat MVP in his current state, but any further than that seems pretty optimistic.
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MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
April 19 2012 18:15 GMT
#98
He'll be the champion, since there's no more zergs left, and his PvP and PvT has been lookin godly so far.
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
April 19 2012 18:18 GMT
#99
Doh, I somehow recalled leenock winning mvp, thus voted ro8. But as it's MVP he's facing, I think naniwa can reach ro4. Hard to judge from there on, suppose he has chance against anyone in pvp, but the absolute best tvp'rs might end up too tough.
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
April 19 2012 18:20 GMT
#100
On April 20 2012 02:44 Berk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 22:09 Whynaut wrote:
I have to wait on his ro8 opponent - no point guessing right now.


With that logic you might as well wait until the final to narrow down the odds more! The point of a prediction is so that you try a figure out who he will play and what his odds are.

Anyways, I have a feeling that MVP might be doable. But beyond that... well, we can hope.


In this case, untrue. He didn't know if it'd be MVP (nani 50%+ chance) or leenock (nani 30%+ chance?). Anyhow, if first barrier is way too hard, there's no point trying to foresee further. If we think where his run ends at this point, the only sensible logic is to wait until ro8 opponent is known. And now it is.
xxAoPxx
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany25 Posts
April 19 2012 18:26 GMT
#101
Probably depending much rather on his opponents than himself... Basically I can and would like to see him in the finals. Go Nani!
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
April 19 2012 18:59 GMT
#102
I hope he wins it. However, I think he will only make it to RO4.
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
April 19 2012 19:10 GMT
#103
What a depressing poll to greet us TLers.

Oh wait, "realistic" is the right word.
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
April 19 2012 19:24 GMT
#104
I really hate the way GSL has gone this season

I want both Mvp and NaNiwa to do well and get atleast Ro4

This tournament is getting far to unpredictable! Ro32 groups can be harder than Ro4 these days!
CFCryptos
Profile Joined December 2011
United States70 Posts
April 19 2012 19:49 GMT
#105
he's going to lose to marineking obviously naniwa is trash. All he does is all in anyway he can go kill himself for all anyone cares

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Acidosis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States172 Posts
April 19 2012 20:06 GMT
#106
Naniwa will probably be able to handle MVP and then advance to Ro4 where anything can happen... except for PvZ... lol.
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Castative
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria11 Posts
April 19 2012 20:07 GMT
#107
I honestly believe that Naniwa can win it but it will be really hard ! And it depends on the players he will face obviously ! Im so excited about Naniwa vs MVP !
SwampFox808
Profile Joined April 2012
United States22 Posts
April 19 2012 20:37 GMT
#108
I think he can take out MKP. Naniwa is ready to win. Wherever they meet will be the final in my book. But who knows if MKP even makes it out of his group, you never really know. Parting is in a group with 3 terrans id bet he would get out and I think taeja is a wild card, he took out jjakji twice and 2 - 0 DRG. So anywhere between Ro4 and champion.
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SwampFox808
Profile Joined April 2012
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 20:45:48
April 19 2012 20:45 GMT
#109
On April 20 2012 04:49 CFCryptos wrote:
he's going to lose to marineking obviously naniwa is trash. All he does is all in anyway he can go kill himself for all anyone cares


This is supposed to be a troll right? All koreans do "all in" builds I've seen MKP do it numerous times. I've seen Naniwa do plenty of macro games especially in PvT there is only the 2 base collosus timing thats viable and thats a legitimate response to a greedy terran. Otherwise PvT always goes late game, unless the terran does any one of the numerous builds that can end it early if not defended correctly.
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Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
April 19 2012 20:48 GMT
#110
ro8 but only because he is gonna play vs MVP
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masakenji
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia415 Posts
April 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#111
honestly, mvp tvp isnt impressing me.

naniwa ro4, yet my heart says mvp
thecondog3000
Profile Joined April 2012
United States8 Posts
April 19 2012 21:26 GMT
#112
RO4...he's good enough to be champ but that's a ton of top notch players to edge out plus the pressure of playing as the only remaining foreigner...
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
April 19 2012 21:31 GMT
#113
RO4, He will face Parting. PvT favours protoss now due to the ascendancy of 3 base builds, and MVP is looking shaky anyway. He has fair chance of beating Parting too, but making the finals would be just too much for Nanner's debut season.
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
April 19 2012 22:35 GMT
#114
If he can win vs MVP, he can take the entire tournament.
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MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 22:40:00
April 19 2012 22:38 GMT
#115
On April 18 2012 21:33 MrMotionPicture wrote:
With how he has been playing, I think he can make it to the finals. Let's hope! Go Naniwa!

But then again with who he has been playing and whom he still has to play. Im going with Ro8.
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Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
April 19 2012 22:54 GMT
#116
I did some rethinking, and unfortunately can't re-vote. He definitely is capable of winning the whole thing. That would be my vote.

Now will he? How far will he get? Making the finals would be a bit too much to expect of him, hence my vote of reaching the semi finals and then losing against Parting.
Berk
Profile Joined August 2010
27 Posts
April 19 2012 23:44 GMT
#117
On April 20 2012 03:20 Ouga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 02:44 Berk wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:09 Whynaut wrote:
I have to wait on his ro8 opponent - no point guessing right now.


With that logic you might as well wait until the final to narrow down the odds more! The point of a prediction is so that you try a figure out who he will play and what his odds are.

Anyways, I have a feeling that MVP might be doable. But beyond that... well, we can hope.


In this case, untrue. He didn't know if it'd be MVP (nani 50%+ chance) or leenock (nani 30%+ chance?). Anyhow, if first barrier is way too hard, there's no point trying to foresee further. If we think where his run ends at this point, the only sensible logic is to wait until ro8 opponent is known. And now it is.


That's predicting a match at a time, not predicting how far he will go.
CaffeinatedBandit
Profile Joined March 2012
United States11 Posts
April 20 2012 00:46 GMT
#118
NaNiwa is going to hit the ground running, right into the hypothetical wall of IMMvp.
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Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
April 20 2012 00:52 GMT
#119
He won't get by MVP, if you think otherwise than it's clear that you have a heavy foreigner bias. I wish people would stop cheering for foreigners because they themselves are foreign, it's stupid.
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 20 2012 01:43 GMT
#120
I'm picking him to win the whole thing. There is nobody left in the tournament that outclasses him to the point where he has no chance. TvP is MVP's worst matchup and MVP isn't quite as good as he used to be.
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Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 01:45:19
April 20 2012 01:44 GMT
#121
On April 20 2012 09:52 Ventor wrote:
He won't get by MVP, if you think otherwise than it's clear that you have a heavy foreigner bias. I wish people would stop cheering for foreigners because they themselves are foreign, it's stupid.


What? Then no white guy will ever get fans / support lol.

I'm not a Naniwa fan but I thought this was kind of silly. I personally think he'll make Ro4.
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Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
April 20 2012 01:53 GMT
#122
I truthfully he could be the champion. He has the drive to be the best, and from his interviews you can tell that winning is the only thing that he will accept.
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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 02:20:12
April 20 2012 02:18 GMT
#123
Naniwa's a kong. He got 2nd place in MLG Providence, The Road to Korea, TSL3, Battle.net European Invitational, HSC2 and HSC3.

I think if he and MarineKing were to meet in a final (which now won't happen due to seeding), it would cause an implosion so large that the GOM studio would be engulfed in a black hole, within a day the the whole of South Korea and eventually the whole world.

But in all seriousness, it depends on who NaNi meets in Ro4. I am confident he can take down Mvp as Protoss seem somewhat favoured in PvT at the moment, even something strong TvPers like Polt are slowly starting to admit. It depends on Mvp's wrist strength and what NaNi has planned in order to combat him.

As for Ro4 opponents?

Terran wise: TaeJa and MarineKing are major threats, especially since MarineKong has an ultra aggressive TvP style that has worked wonders for him so far. TheStC isn't such a menace and Parting could be a threat although his PvP is mixed.

Anyway, I voted runner up because I think Leenock, Squirtle, MC or HerO could eliminate him in a PvZ/PvP finals However, MC hasn't exactly had a brilliant track record against foeigners in PvP. He's been schooled by HuK and NaNiwa a few times before.

Ideally, I want NaNi to take a GSL.
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
April 20 2012 02:30 GMT
#124
I have faith, im going with either champ or runner up. Good luck Naniwa
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 20 2012 05:30 GMT
#125
If Marineking gets second in his group; I think he has great chances of making it to the finals. However, if he ends up against Marineking, I think he'd be out of luck.
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Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
April 20 2012 05:47 GMT
#126
On April 20 2012 04:49 CFCryptos wrote:
he's going to lose to marineking obviously naniwa is trash. All he does is all in anyway he can go kill himself for all anyone cares

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Only temp banned?
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the_business_og
Profile Joined April 2012
United States167 Posts
April 20 2012 07:58 GMT
#127
On April 20 2012 14:47 Theeakoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:49 CFCryptos wrote:
he's going to lose to marineking obviously naniwa is trash. All he does is all in anyway he can go kill himself for all anyone cares

User was temp banned for this post.

Only temp banned?

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flod
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark12 Posts
April 20 2012 08:39 GMT
#128
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Ponchey
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden89 Posts
April 20 2012 08:51 GMT
#129
Hard call, but I'll go with Ro4. Definitely think he can take MVP, but then I think he will face MKP in the semifinals and unless he can prepare something specifically for MKPs aggressive TvP, it will probably be too hard of a nut to crack. But honestly and realistically, from how it has looked so far, he has a good chance at going, well, all the way. Here's hoping.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
April 20 2012 10:53 GMT
#130
If MVP plays like he did vs Leenock then I don't see Naniwa beating him. But MVP said himself that his wrists were killing him afterwards so Nani might still have a chance. I'm certainly giving him a 50:50 against MVP.
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FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
April 20 2012 10:57 GMT
#131
hope ro8

i hate naniwa
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12876 Posts
April 20 2012 11:16 GMT
#132
Ro8 or ro4.
Mvp isn't known for his TvP, he has wrists problems and TvP is very hard for the T in the current metagame/GSL mappool, however it's freakin' Mvp : he has time to rest & prepare, come up with builds, he won't lose his composure and it's very very hard to stop Mvp when he is able to prepare. Therefore I give NaNiwa a 50% chance to beat him.

If he manages to beat Mvp, I think I read somewhere that he might be against MarineKing.
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stonetalon
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands482 Posts
April 20 2012 11:22 GMT
#133
hmm, i think he will face MKP in Ro4 and i dont think he can beat MKP at the moment.
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Turboteckel
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands37 Posts
April 20 2012 11:22 GMT
#134
I see no reason he can't go all the way. If you look at who he has beaten now and how convincingly he has gone through the groupstages. I'm more afraid he wont beat HerO than that he won't beat the likes of MKP or Mvp
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
April 20 2012 11:24 GMT
#135
Champion calling it
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 20 2012 12:31 GMT
#136
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VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
April 20 2012 12:51 GMT
#137
I'd say he has about 50% chance to win each series (Except vs MKP, then 35-40%).

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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
April 20 2012 13:19 GMT
#138
Well, he should take out MVP without too much trouble... i say he will not lose to a Terran, not even to MKP. The only one who can stop Naniwa now is HerO :X. And i'm not even trollin .
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ForgottenOne
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania236 Posts
April 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#139
Naniwa has everything to win the GSL. He's very solid all around and has a lot of tricks down his sleeves, ready to pull at any time. Also, I hear Toss is pretty good these days.
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 20 2012 14:28 GMT
#140
I think Naniwa can beat any of the remaining players except for MKP. Of course he can lose to anyone of them as well so who knows...

Realistically (and slightly optimistically) he'll beat Parting in the semis and then lose to MKP in the final.
Seanza
Profile Joined November 2011
171 Posts
April 20 2012 15:18 GMT
#141
Can only hope for Champion. If he has a good tournament at DreamHack this weekend, I can't see any reason why not.
Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
April 20 2012 15:19 GMT
#142
No zerg left. Naniwa has a good chance to win it.
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
April 20 2012 18:13 GMT
#143
He's an excellent player, but the foreigner bias here is pretty strong
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
April 20 2012 21:38 GMT
#144
I hope he doesn't get runner-up.. The GSL runner-up curse is pretty potent.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
April 20 2012 22:44 GMT
#145
I hope he wins and becomes Champion!
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DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
April 20 2012 22:51 GMT
#146
I find it funny people have Naniwa more likely win the GSL over runner up
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Lord_Maximus
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark46 Posts
April 20 2012 23:12 GMT
#147
I think he'll beat MVP but he'll fall short in the semifinals.
DrThorMD
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada359 Posts
April 21 2012 00:20 GMT
#148
I'd say he was gonna win but then... HerO.
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Xinflames
Profile Joined August 2011
United States17 Posts
April 21 2012 04:41 GMT
#149
On April 18 2012 21:38 Qute wrote:
Ro 4 vs Marineking (obv will be winner of gruop c ) he will get knocked out... as i guess he's gonna beat Hero or Mvp, July is obv not too hard... Leenock would be pretty hard for him, but i think he will win his group (leenock)

€: well, maybe Parting is gonna get first in his group with his PvT ... than nani should have a good chance of getting to the final !!

anyway, NaNiWa Fighting !!!

I know he did it once before, but i don't see NaNiwa beating MVP...
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MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
April 21 2012 05:33 GMT
#150
On April 21 2012 13:41 Xinflames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:38 Qute wrote:
Ro 4 vs Marineking (obv will be winner of gruop c ) he will get knocked out... as i guess he's gonna beat Hero or Mvp, July is obv not too hard... Leenock would be pretty hard for him, but i think he will win his group (leenock)

€: well, maybe Parting is gonna get first in his group with his PvT ... than nani should have a good chance of getting to the final !!

anyway, NaNiWa Fighting !!!

I know he did it once before, but i don't see NaNiwa beating MVP...


Why not? Naniwa is on fire and MVP is having severe wrist issues. I think Naniwa has the best chances to beat MVP now, maintaining his winning record against MVP.
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Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
April 21 2012 08:19 GMT
#151
Champion or I want money back...
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Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)1 Post
April 21 2012 13:15 GMT
#152
Maybe if he win one of the korean he'll be able to got a champion
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Profile Joined April 2012
Japan48 Posts
April 21 2012 13:23 GMT
#153
Bonjwa Nani!
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Profile Joined October 2011
Germany150 Posts
April 21 2012 13:41 GMT
#154
NaNiwa vs HerO final and Nani takes it!

... hopefully
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kAelle_sc
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
April 21 2012 15:04 GMT
#155
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Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 16:24:25
April 21 2012 15:46 GMT
#156
my heart shouts champion, but my brain says runner-up

edit: BTW, how the hell can naniwa not be in the top 5 of the TLPD international? He is atleast 90x better than all of them except stephano who'm is the only foreigner who could challenge naniwa as the best player outside of korea right now.
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Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 17:19:07
April 21 2012 17:17 GMT
#157
Voted Ro8, but i think Naniwa could beat MVP. But, then he will face some who will emerge victorious in lots of vP games vs top tosses in the groups or Ro8. So, let's say 0.75 Ro8 and 0.25 Ro4.

edit:

On April 22 2012 00:46 Fizzy wrote:
my heart shouts champion, but my brain says runner-up

edit: BTW, how the hell can naniwa not be in the top 5 of the TLPD international? He is atleast 90x better than all of them except stephano who'm is the only foreigner who could challenge naniwa as the best player outside of korea right now.


Well, since TLPD is rating based, you can not be on top there while not winning a lot of international games.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 17:44:51
April 21 2012 17:44 GMT
#158
CHAMPION because FUCK YEAH
EneMecH
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom218 Posts
April 22 2012 00:34 GMT
#159
On April 22 2012 00:46 Fizzy wrote:
my heart shouts champion, but my brain says runner-up

edit: BTW, how the hell can naniwa not be in the top 5 of the TLPD international? He is atleast 90x better than all of them except stephano who'm is the only foreigner who could challenge naniwa as the best player outside of korea right now.


*Except [He, Stephano][ [Who] is the only foreigner who could challenge naniwa.

There is no Apostrophe in Whom, also.
Tears soaks each hand the dealer's dealt. But time taught me how to see every second as heaven even when they're perfectly disguised as hell.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
April 22 2012 00:55 GMT
#160
gsl champion
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
April 22 2012 04:16 GMT
#161
only P's and T's left and no drg and he has beaten mvp before. I can see him reaching the finals at the very least. MKP will be trouble though if he ends up on nani's side of the bracket.
Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
April 22 2012 06:49 GMT
#162
I was completely sure Naniwa would take the title up until I remembered Marineking is still in there. Never the less, I belive in Naniwa to overcome some negative oddses and become the first foreign champion.

Kan du slå drakar kan du slå en kung. Gogo Naniwa!
xyzåäö
nDLSoulFly
Profile Joined December 2011
Malaysia79 Posts
April 22 2012 09:48 GMT
#163
Definitely i want him to be the champion. But the key word here is REALISTICALLY. So yeah probably RO4. but he has been playing brilliantly these days.
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
April 22 2012 11:22 GMT
#164
Realistically, Ro4. But I really want to see him win and fulfil his dream.
xd
mRpolite
Profile Joined March 2012
189 Posts
April 22 2012 15:42 GMT
#165
naniwa for champ!!!
i guess all haters have finally crawled up and died

go nani
LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
April 22 2012 17:57 GMT
#166
I think he makes it to the finals if MKP is on the other side of the bracket. He likely would lose. But if he makes it to the finals vs MarineKing, I think nani wins it with all the confidence and momentum he is gaining. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets knocked out in Ro8 and I won't be surprised if he just wins the whole thing. I think at the very least, though, on a side note, that if we consider nani a foreigner, we kinda have to give it to him that he is the best foreigner in the world right now, as people long debated who was better or more accomplished between naniwa and stephano, and nani takes it 100% IMO at the moment.
ev8
Profile Joined October 2010
United States112 Posts
April 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#167
i want naniwa to take his streak all the way through the finals
"where are my uni- what are you - how are you doing? what are you doing?"
SilentBonjwa
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 23:15:32
April 22 2012 23:07 GMT
#168
lol , funny to see how overrated he becomes now. won some mirrors and vs tier 3 terrans like Virus ?

yeah, got owned at Dreamhack against sLivko (who??), Nerchio (foreigner) or HyuN.

Massive luck and a one time success that he even made it to Top 8, but he will get raped by anyone he faces there now.

aLive should be there, almost guaranteed to get the Code S title this time. oh well next season after death meching EmoKingPrime~
"Disliked by some, Loved by a few, Feared by everyone" fnatic.aLive
Hjwpro
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2 Posts
April 23 2012 09:21 GMT
#169
I. Hate Manila
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
April 23 2012 11:31 GMT
#170
he can pwn mpv ezpz but who knows later on...
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
MiKTeX
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States234 Posts
April 23 2012 11:37 GMT
#171
champion ofc!
Okiya
Profile Joined November 2010
France145 Posts
April 23 2012 11:47 GMT
#172
I think he will pass the Ro8, for sure.
But I'm predicting him to lose to MKP(as I hope he will get first of his group) in the Ro4.

Eventhough I would have loved to see him in the finals, and maybe champion.
Well… we never know…
Maskward
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden4 Posts
April 23 2012 12:33 GMT
#173
Loss in RO4 against MKP. MKP will get yet another GSL second place when he gets pwned with 5-2 by MC
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
April 23 2012 13:48 GMT
#174
Realistically, he will probably lose to MVP

(Also kinda hope he looks at the poll and gets fired up to prove us all wrong)

(Also assuming he will never read this)
http://twitter.com/howsc
TerranMeApart
Profile Joined April 2011
United States27 Posts
April 23 2012 15:01 GMT
#175
MVP is too good. Unfortunately it'll only be RO8 for Naniwa.
Rarkon
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada51 Posts
April 23 2012 21:02 GMT
#176
I want MVP to win GSL, but if Naniwa beats MVP then I'll want him to win GSL out of the remaining players.
An2quamaraN
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland379 Posts
April 23 2012 21:46 GMT
#177
Before he went to Dreamhack i would probably give him at least a runner-up (as i thought that only MKP could bring him down if he stayed and practice) but considering his travel to Sweden and back it is RO4. I ignore his terrible performance against zergs at Dreamhack since there is no more zergs in GSL (Then i would say RO8).

Regardless of my realistic predictions, my heart says Champion.
mathsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
194 Posts
April 24 2012 05:20 GMT
#178
naniwa for champion!
"Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy, it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things" -Unknown || www.twitch.tv/scmathsux
SilentBonjwa
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 06:05:08
April 24 2012 06:04 GMT
#179
On April 24 2012 06:02 Rarkon wrote:
I want MVP to win GSL, but if Naniwa beats MVP then I'll want him to win GSL out of the remaining players.
t

signed !

MVP would be the most deserving champion out of all the remaining players.

the guy has to fight against both psychological stress and pain due to the carpal syndrome.

he will kill nani, like a true fucking bonjwa !

"Disliked by some, Loved by a few, Feared by everyone" fnatic.aLive
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
April 24 2012 09:24 GMT
#180
Calling it now: Hero vs MKP or nani vs. MKP finals, depending on Group C.
Support TONY best TONY
illu23
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany71 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 13:31:35
April 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#181
To be fair, no one this season has had a stronger and more impressive/dominant performance than Naniwa.
Odi et amo. Quare id faciam fortasse requiris. Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
April 24 2012 14:02 GMT
#182
MarineKing will be extremely hard if he gets him in RO4, so I voted that. But I think that's the only person left he is quite unlikely to beat (of course he will not steamroll anyone else left in GSL either, but he has a good chance).
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
April 24 2012 14:04 GMT
#183
On April 23 2012 08:07 SilentBonjwa wrote:
lol , funny to see how overrated he becomes now. won some mirrors and vs tier 3 terrans like Virus ?

yeah, got owned at Dreamhack against sLivko (who??), Nerchio (foreigner) or HyuN.

Massive luck and a one time success that he even made it to Top 8, but he will get raped by anyone he faces there now.

aLive should be there, almost guaranteed to get the Code S title this time. oh well next season after death meching EmoKingPrime~

His PvZ obviously sucks right now, but I was talking to him in Dreamhack and he said he was most confident in PvT, which is amazing considering how good his PvP is.
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
April 24 2012 16:53 GMT
#184
CHAMPION!!!!!!! OFC
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Reflect.702
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada16 Posts
April 25 2012 00:50 GMT
#185
Naniwa good, champion for sure.
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
April 25 2012 05:46 GMT
#186
i think nani will roll over hero
EG-TL!
sickthink
Profile Joined December 2011
United States60 Posts
April 25 2012 07:40 GMT
#187
I voted him for champion. Don't know why...
uniden... no unidennnnn! noooooooooooooo.....
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
April 25 2012 10:02 GMT
#188
On April 25 2012 16:40 sickthink wrote:
I voted him for champion. Don't know why...

I did too as I took the "realistically" in the question as a provocation.
jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
April 25 2012 12:40 GMT
#189
Most likely a PvP in Ro4 if he makes it there, which is good news for him.
TheQuixotic
Profile Joined June 2011
36 Posts
April 25 2012 16:14 GMT
#190
On April 25 2012 14:46 pt wrote:
i think nani will roll over hero

He's against Mvp next round. The only way he'll hit hero is if both of them make it into the finals.

Regardless, Naniwa's chances would normally be a lot worse, but there are absolutely no Zergs left in contention. PvZ is his real shortcoming as a player, but it's one we won't have to face. Realistically I can seem him making it to any round. He'll be the underdog every time for sure, but his PvT and PvP solid enough that anything could happen.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
April 25 2012 16:56 GMT
#191
Round of 4.

But I won't be surprised if he makes it to the finals. The guy's determination is scary.
Clues
Profile Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
April 25 2012 16:58 GMT
#192
Go Go Maniwa
WindOw
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden407 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 18:06:17
April 25 2012 18:05 GMT
#193
would like to see him bring the champion trophy to sweden, but to be realistic ro4 will probably be his limit, but you never know if anyone can do it its nani!
AKA WindOw[InCa] (BW) | TheMisT (SC2) | NaNiwa FC founder
JeffS
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada31 Posts
April 25 2012 18:48 GMT
#194
EmoKing is out! Nani has a chance
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
April 25 2012 23:21 GMT
#195
Go for the GOLD Nani, go for the mother fucking gold.

GSL champion. He absolutely has the capability. That's not to say I think he is the best player left in this season, but he certainly is capable of beating them (no zergs, no problem).
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
April 26 2012 02:31 GMT
#196
On April 24 2012 23:04 Theovide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 08:07 SilentBonjwa wrote:
lol , funny to see how overrated he becomes now. won some mirrors and vs tier 3 terrans like Virus ?

yeah, got owned at Dreamhack against sLivko (who??), Nerchio (foreigner) or HyuN.

Massive luck and a one time success that he even made it to Top 8, but he will get raped by anyone he faces there now.

aLive should be there, almost guaranteed to get the Code S title this time. oh well next season after death meching EmoKingPrime~

His PvZ obviously sucks right now, but I was talking to him in Dreamhack and he said he was most confident in PvT, which is amazing considering how good his PvP is.


not good enough for MC or PartinG imo.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
April 26 2012 10:38 GMT
#197
ro4 imo
EvilDet
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany130 Posts
April 26 2012 13:06 GMT
#198
Well, if Naniwa beats Mvp, he could easily get into the final as well, because he would have to play PvP in the RO4^^
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
April 26 2012 15:14 GMT
#199
PvP is kinda coin flip...

one error costs the game...its a damn thing !
Caddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom178 Posts
April 26 2012 17:33 GMT
#200
Would love him to go all the way, but MVP is still pretty damn good. If he does progress, he can definitely progress further, but at the same time, P v P is tough to try and predict.

Still, you never know what can happen. Naniwa fighting!
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
April 27 2012 13:30 GMT
#201
The question is not formulated very well.

I think he's got a realistic chance to beat anyone, thus I voted GSL champ.

However, statistically, his most likely result is most definitely to go out in RO8, but that is true for ALL remaining players.
lahara
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany140 Posts
April 27 2012 16:09 GMT
#202
gsl champ ez
having an argument on the internt is like competing in the paralympics, even if u win ure still retarded
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1080 Posts
April 28 2012 12:22 GMT
#203
100% guaranteed champion. where can i bet my money on it?
mostly harmless
OlSpiced
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria96 Posts
April 28 2012 16:00 GMT
#204
So if he can beat Mvp and the rest of his opponents are only Protoss, he got a pretty good chance.
You never now who will win a PvP, and Nani knows how to flip the coin.
He has a chance at being the Champion but he isn't favored in any match, i hope that he gets past Mvp and has to face a lot of Protoss, then his chances are not that bad.
Alvalanker
Profile Joined July 2011
United States253 Posts
April 28 2012 23:02 GMT
#205
Would be thrilled if he got into RO4. RO8 seems more realistic though.
The fragile art of existence is kept alive by sheer persistence.
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
April 29 2012 07:01 GMT
#206
On April 27 2012 22:30 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
The question is not formulated very well.

I think he's got a realistic chance to beat anyone, thus I voted GSL champ.

However, statistically, his most likely result is most definitely to go out in RO8, but that is true for ALL remaining players.

No it's formatted adequately, it's asking realistically, where do YOU THINK it will end. It's asking your opinion on how the games will go, not whether you think he has the potential to be champion.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
April 30 2012 08:24 GMT
#207
I voted ro8 some time ago, but I now believe he will beat Mvp.
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
April 30 2012 14:45 GMT
#208
Naniwa's PvP is very strong, so he can probably take a series off any Protoss left in the tournament. What it's going to come down to is the Terran players. If they met at an MLG or something I think MVP would win hands down, but you hear about how hard Naniwa is practicing for this series and with MVP's wrist issues I'm certain he can't practice as hard as Naniwa can.

Also Naniwa is practicing vs Bomber, who has always had a strong TvP and he lives with PartinG, who has the best PvT.

I think if Naniwa beats MVP he will beat the winner of Oz vs PartinG, and I think Naniwa might well beat MVP with how hard he's training. Also its looking like a likely PvP final so you never know...
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
April 30 2012 16:01 GMT
#209
Honestly, Naniwa's side of the bracket looks scarier, so if he gets to the finals he should have a great shot at becoming champion.

If hero can beat Mvp I don't see why Naniwa can't.

If he gets past Mvp it will be a PvP which Naniwa stands a high chance of winning.

NANIWA!!! I BELIEVE!!!
str10_hurts
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands12 Posts
May 01 2012 14:42 GMT
#210
Pretty hard choice, if he beats MVP he can beat oz or parting. So ether R8 or runner-up.

Still cant imagine him winning a GSL. In the finals the player usually wins with the better (player countering) builds versus certain opponents, in my personal observation that is. All of the possible runner-ups facing Naniwa excel at this.
This is also why I eventually voted Naniwa stopping in the round of 8, MVP gets better results the higher he gets in the GSL due to the increasing amount of preparation he has.
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:57:27
May 01 2012 15:56 GMT
#211
NaNiwa feels his PvT is his strongest side, so i think he have good chances agains MVP, after that he will probably face PartinG who is not that strong in PvP so i think nani has very very very good chances against him, also parting did not do too well in MLG Spring Arena #1.

But im afraid Hero will beat nani in the finals, i dont know why or how, but there is something about Hero that just screams CHAMPION atm.

edit: and who does not want to see a foreginer become champion?
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
jtixs
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom150 Posts
May 01 2012 17:41 GMT
#212
PvT is a funny matchup in which I feel Toss has the advantage at the moment. Also MvP isn't at his best.

And then It will most likely be PvP all the way to the final which is the great equaliser between foreigners and Koreans so
It is very hard to predict but I think he loses in Ro4 to Parting
Misconceptions to Mastery
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
May 02 2012 05:49 GMT
#213
On April 18 2012 22:42 Scarecrow wrote:
as soon as he hits a PvZ

I for one dont see his PvZ as his weak point. He is solid in all three matchups! Rushes against him is the scary part, hes good at holding those tho.
Fnatic - TSM - EG
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 03 2012 14:51 GMT
#214
RO8 for sure
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
May 04 2012 07:54 GMT
#215
Called round of 4 due to his insane practice regiment and mvp's history of tvp.
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