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DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
July 05 2011 20:44 GMT
#41
Hopefully EU TOSS x)
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
July 05 2011 20:49 GMT
#42
what the heck you guys, we finally get a boxer poll in how many years and hes NOT winning it? You are all dissapointments.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
July 05 2011 20:51 GMT
#43
On July 06 2011 05:15 mbr2321 wrote:
Here is my logic for the decision:
1. Statistically, it is more likely that a subset from the population with 3 members will eventually win than a subset with 2-- this rules out Korean-P, Euro-P, NA-Z, Taiwan-Z, and NA-T.
2. Of the 3 groups that remain (Euro-Z, Korean-Z, and Korean-T), I want to pick the group with the three strongest players.
3. Although that, of the 9 players remaining, I think Ret and MorroW are extremely strong candidates, I think Darkforce kind of slows the group down compared to July, Zenio, and Moon, who are all gsl code S contenders (even people who scoff at Moon, I point to DreamHack and Columbus)
4. BoxeR is hurt, aLive has yet to truly prove himself to me, and PuMa, although making a tremendous showing in the open bracket, is still in the transition from BW imo.

That leads us to: Korean-Z.


I'm going to highjack your logic and hope that since darkforce is better than you think one of them 3 will win. Particularly morrow or Ret
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 21:03:50
July 05 2011 20:52 GMT
#44
On July 06 2011 05:15 mbr2321 wrote:
Here is my logic for the decision:
1. Statistically, it is more likely that a subset from the population with 3 members will eventually win than a subset with 2-- this rules out Korean-P, Euro-P, NA-Z, Taiwan-Z, and NA-T.
2. Of the 3 groups that remain (Euro-Z, Korean-Z, and Korean-T), I want to pick the group with the three strongest players.
3. Although that, of the 9 players remaining, I think Ret and MorroW are extremely strong candidates, I think Darkforce kind of slows the group down compared to July, Zenio, and Moon, who are all gsl code S contenders (even people who scoff at Moon, I point to DreamHack and Columbus)
4. BoxeR is hurt, aLive has yet to truly prove himself to me, and PuMa, although making a tremendous showing in the open bracket, is still in the transition from BW imo.

That leads us to: Korean-Z.

So, you're one of those people who only pays attention to the happenings in the GSL. You know, there are other tournaments that go on in Korea outside of the GSL.

Lets take a look at Korean Z vs Korean T

Firstly, both Moon and BoxeR and in Code B. They both can hold their own in foreign tournaments, but honestly they're never usually contenders to win the whole thing; Moon getting 2nd at Dream Hack was surprising.

This leaves aLive and Puma vs Zenio and July. Now July had a disappointing exit from the GSL, and Zenio had a strong 2-0 earlier today. However, July did win the CSN Clash of the Houses event, which shouldn't be overlooked. In regards to the Terrans, both of them have equally ridiculous TvP records at 14-4. Puma is 4th in Korean ELO, aLive at 10th, July and Zenio are 32nd and 30th respectively in ELO. Puma is actually 29-8 overall, and has a 1st and a 3rd place finish in the ICCup Korean Weekly. aLive has a 1st place finish in the ICCup Korean Weekly. aLive is getting out of his group probably too; him, Polt, and Puma, have the best TvP in Korea, so they got lucky having both Huk and Sangho in there group. Back to the Zergs, Zenio has amazing ZvZ, but his other MU's are sub .500; July has great ZvT, but his other MU's are sub .500.

Both of there weakest MU's is vs T, but they would just be competing against eachother.
MKP||TSL
`MemoRY
Profile Joined January 2011
United States80 Posts
July 05 2011 20:56 GMT
#45
Select is going to win this tournament.
Jaedong | MarineKing | NaNiwa | ToD
GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
July 05 2011 20:58 GMT
#46
ret fighting!
Some people hurt people. I defenestrate those people.
fds
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia258 Posts
July 05 2011 21:11 GMT
#47
I see traitors not voting for Emperor! noes!
tritium_3
Profile Joined July 2009
United States19 Posts
July 05 2011 21:15 GMT
#48
anything korean. hopefully (T)BoxeR
nothing
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
July 05 2011 21:27 GMT
#49
when even in polls koreans get top 3 you know its bad
eyeEX
Profile Joined June 2010
United States64 Posts
July 05 2011 21:30 GMT
#50
Can't believe SEN is second to last. I don't think most people actually know HOW GOOD he is. gosu gosu gosu
ìX
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
July 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#51
Looking at how the Korean T's play right now, Im pretty sure one of em' will win this
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
July 05 2011 21:59 GMT
#52
@OP Haha Artosis Hype strikes again!

Voted Mc 'cause that's the safest and most probable scenario. 2nd choice would probably be korean Z (July or Moon) as they both are high skilled and have a lot of experience in international SC2 tournaments.
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 22:12:05
July 05 2011 22:06 GMT
#53
SHETH WINNING AND FIGHTING AND INSPIRING MY TO WRITE THIS COMMENT (forgive the caps its out of excitement cant you see?!)
◕ ‿‿ ◕ ๑•́ ₃ •̀๑ ( ͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡°)
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
July 05 2011 22:17 GMT
#54
lets go white ra!! rooting for him to take this HUGE tournament
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
July 05 2011 22:21 GMT
#55
Voted Korean protoss.

On the right side of the bracket MC is a clear favorite, with only White-Ra and aLive standing any chance against him. Sorry BoxeR. Out of the left side I'm guessing either PuMa, July, or Moon in that order of likelihood. PuMa's amazing but his TvZ was looking a little shaky last night against a relatively unknown player (he didn't seem to know how to deal with infestors), and he could be playing three TvZs back to back. PuMa could take MC, but July or Moon would get crushed. So yeah, MC's got to be feeling pretty good about his chances.
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
July 05 2011 22:24 GMT
#56
gogo morrow
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
Morphie
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands4 Posts
July 05 2011 22:29 GMT
#57
White-Ra will use special tactics ! Easy
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough
EternalSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden313 Posts
July 05 2011 22:30 GMT
#58
BOXER GOT MY VOTE <3
SHIT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
yellingnewt
Profile Joined June 2011
United States22 Posts
July 05 2011 22:51 GMT
#59
Select needs a to break out of his slump. Select ftw
High Masters Protoss: :)
awakenx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States341 Posts
July 05 2011 22:55 GMT
#60
I voted for Korean T, ever since they are OP.


No seriously, they think Zergs are too weak while on bnet forums terrans are just QQing about zerg.
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