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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On June 03 2011 23:26 tedster wrote: A history he has totally reversed lately while still maintaining his PvP skills The point is that a bad history is something you have to prove you've escaped. A lot of people want to see more before they will say "yes, he's escaped it." | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
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WaterTower
France138 Posts
Now, Zero. He has been doing well, but history had indicated that he hasn't really shown true excellence. He did manage to beat Jaedong, but is can 4 games really be a reliable indicator? Bisu, of course, has been a good player, but except against zerg, he is really not outstanding. Soulkey has been rising for a while, and his rise almost mirror's that of Flash. But that's as far as it goes. Jaedong, on the other hand, has shown greatness for years. Sure, he fumbled badly this month, but does that make it so any gamer would discount him more than Zero or Soulkey? Jaedong, FTW. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:39 WaterTower wrote: For the placement of the Power Rank, I think every gamer should think.. if I had to face one of these players, and had to win a prize, which one? Flash is an automatic out because of his all-rounded exceptional play against every race. He really deserves the title of Bonjwa. Now, Zero. He has been doing well, but history had indicated that he hasn't really shown true excellence. He did manage to beat Jaedong, but is can 4 games really be a reliable indicator? Bisu, of course, has been a good player, but except against zerg, he is really not outstanding. Soulkey has been rising for a while, and his rise almost mirror's that of Flash. But that's as far as it goes. Jaedong, on the other hand, has shown greatness for years. Sure, he fumbled badly this month, but does that make it so any gamer would discount him more than Zero or Soulkey? Jaedong, FTW. The problem with arranging the power rank by "who is most feared" is that it will rarely change, you're talking maybe a couple of new faces every season (plus Reach would be on there every month, because... come on  ). The PR does of course take that into account, but you have to show results to stay up there, which means a more fluid power rank where every progamer stands a chance, without needing 6 months of top performance. | ||
swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:39 WaterTower wrote: For the placement of the Power Rank, I think every gamer should think.. if I had to face one of these players, and had to win a prize, which one? Flash is an automatic out because of his all-rounded exceptional play against every race. He really deserves the title of Bonjwa. Now, Zero. He has been doing well, but history had indicated that he hasn't really shown true excellence. He did manage to beat Jaedong, but is can 4 games really be a reliable indicator? Bisu, of course, has been a good player, but except against zerg, he is really not outstanding. Soulkey has been rising for a while, and his rise almost mirror's that of Flash. But that's as far as it goes. Jaedong, on the other hand, has shown greatness for years. Sure, he fumbled badly this month, but does that make it so any gamer would discount him more than Zero or Soulkey? Jaedong, FTW. You fail to consider that both soulkey and zero are the most badass motherfuckers in the history of starcraft (After GGPlay). | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:39 WaterTower wrote: For the placement of the Power Rank, I think every gamer should think.. if I had to face one of these players, and had to win a prize, which one? Flash is an automatic out because of his all-rounded exceptional play against every race. He really deserves the title of Bonjwa. Now, Zero. He has been doing well, but history had indicated that he hasn't really shown true excellence. He did manage to beat Jaedong, but is can 4 games really be a reliable indicator? Bisu, of course, has been a good player, but except against zerg, he is really not outstanding. Soulkey has been rising for a while, and his rise almost mirror's that of Flash. But that's as far as it goes. Jaedong, on the other hand, has shown greatness for years. Sure, he fumbled badly this month, but does that make it so any gamer would discount him more than Zero or Soulkey? Jaedong, FTW. And you will continue to think that way about Jaedong even if he fails to make it past the first round of every Starleague for the next two years. Just like how Bisu fans felt that way about Bisu back in 2010 right after he came back from his loss streak and achieved a few unimportant wins in a row. (As far as I'm concerned, Bisu did not truly reassert his position as S-class until last season.) That's why Power Rank isn't written that way -- it would be even less indicative of who is hot than KeSPA ranking is. | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
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tedster
984 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:39 WaterTower wrote: For the placement of the Power Rank, I think every gamer should think.. if I had to face one of these players, and had to win a prize, which one? Flash is an automatic out because of his all-rounded exceptional play against every race. He really deserves the title of Bonjwa. Now, Zero. He has been doing well, but history had indicated that he hasn't really shown true excellence. He did manage to beat Jaedong, but is can 4 games really be a reliable indicator? Bisu, of course, has been a good player, but except against zerg, he is really not outstanding. Soulkey has been rising for a while, and his rise almost mirror's that of Flash. But that's as far as it goes. Jaedong, on the other hand, has shown greatness for years. Sure, he fumbled badly this month, but does that make it so any gamer would discount him more than Zero or Soulkey? Jaedong, FTW. Jaedong played a truly mediocre month of Starcraft. He is not the most threatening Zerg right now, and if you watch all his games (which I try very hard to do) his play should not strike fear into others' hearts at the moment. He basically lost to Reality, lost pretty badly to Zero, was beaten by people with relatively mediocre ZvZs and did not show the mental fortitude to win a series against a prepared opponent. He looked shaky in EVERY SINGLE MATCHUP and every series. If his name was not Jaedong, everyone would be shocked he made it to the Ro4 with how mediocre his play was throughout the MSL group stages. | ||
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
But maybe that time is over. | ||
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
On June 03 2011 13:10 tedster wrote: TaekBangLeeSsang Which is a Korean way of abbreviating: Kim Taek Yong (Bisu) Song Byung Goo (Stork) Lee Jae Dong (Jaedong) Lee Young Ho (Flash) Basically it indicates the 4 dominant players of the era in this case. They are so dominant that any other player rising to their level for even a limited period of time is considered quite noteworthy. Of them all, Stork is sometimes considered the "Fourth Wheel" though lately he has had significantly better individual league results than Bisu, who as recently as 4-5 months ago was close to being kicked from the TBLS elite four by Kal, who had posted much better results. Lol, I didn't know what the abbreviationd standed for, I know who they are ^^ thanks anyways | ||
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
Also can someone please tell me what happened to Ruby?!?! | ||
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phantem
United States163 Posts
i was also =( to see jaedong so low | ||
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:39 WaterTower wrote: Bisu, of course, has been a good player, but except against zerg, he is really not outstanding. Yeah, he only has the highest PvT and PvP ELO currently. That's not really outstanding  | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On June 05 2011 05:24 nodule wrote: Yeah, he only has the highest PvT and PvP ELO currently. That's not really outstanding Yea you tell them bro <3 Wtf a KT guy? <3 anw :p | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On June 05 2011 05:28 ffreakk wrote: Yea you tell them bro <3 Wtf a KT guy? <3 anw :p Hey, many of us like Bisu. We just try not to associate ourselves with certain people who do | ||
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Tempest[OEC]
United States417 Posts
On June 05 2011 05:31 okum wrote: Hey, many of us like Bisu. We just try not to associate ourselves with certain people who do Hate the fans, not the player. | ||
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