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gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
June 16 2011 18:27 GMT
#261
On June 16 2011 16:00 Vasoline73 wrote:
Yellow for number one power rank imo. Good way to put a legend to rest :D



W..... T..... F.......

someone should slap you upside the head for this.

obviously Yellow should be placed in the NUMBER TWO spot!
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neotoss
Profile Joined January 2003
China217 Posts
June 16 2011 20:18 GMT
#262
This!. Really good suggestion, just make two second place. One for YELLOW.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 16 2011 20:23 GMT
#263
I don't know how to say this (I don't want to) but JangBi might return to PR since I can remember. I might be hallucinating that JangBi is actually doing moderately well.
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oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
June 17 2011 02:18 GMT
#264
yea jangbi is doing pretty well lately
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
June 17 2011 02:26 GMT
#265
Sorry but his fellow paewang, Best is doing even better. If Jangbi somehow gets a position on the PR then it will have to be below Best
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#266
And Horang2 is doing even better.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 17 2011 03:45 GMT
#267
On June 17 2011 12:37 flamewheel wrote:
And Horang2 is doing even better.


Horang has a win over current form JD and Bisu, but the rest of his wins are all over scrubs. After best's 2 flash wins he at least has some against other good players mind, bogus, and really.

And if we restrict it to just this month (as I think we should) than horang really is only playing the bottom of the barrel.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 17 2011 05:36 GMT
#268
If we restrict ourselves to just this month then who exactly is Jaedong again?

The fallacy of the "let's restrict ourselves to just this month" argument is that you aren't restricting yourself to just this month: you are judging Horang2's opponents entirely by their past accomplishments. If we restrict ourselves to just this month then Horang2 is 4-0 against players who are 2-2, 0-1, 0-1 and 1-1 respectively. To give a comparison, Jaehoon is 4-0 against players who are 0-3, 0-1, 0-2, and 2-1. By this standard, there is no difference between beating Midas and beating Lazy (both of whom are 0-1 on the month).

PR ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS HAS TO BE REPEATED AGAIN looks at results in the context of history and qualitative in-game performance. Otherwise there is NO POINT AT ALL to having this ranking.

And here's Horang2's recent history:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=630&part=games&vs=all&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=3&from_day=8&to_year=2011&to_month=6&to_day=14&action=Update

Which puts priority on Horang2 over Best or Jaehoon.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 17 2011 06:34 GMT
#269
On June 17 2011 14:36 Mortality wrote:
looks at results in the context of history and qualitative in-game performance. Otherwise there is NO POINT AT ALL to having this ranking.



Well, in the context of history, Best is most known for being an OSL finalist, and Horang2 is known for being the guy with a number in his name.

In game performance: Best's macro is one of the most beautiful things ever seen in a starcraft game. Horang's style is nondescript enough for me to not have anything to write here.

And If you are going to arbitrarily say that 3 months is recent, then I'm going to arbitrarily say 3 years is recent. Therefore best has a better record.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 17 2011 07:47 GMT
#270
Ahaha, you just called Horang2 nondescript. That is the biggest joke I've ever seen.

Also yes, Best was good 3 years ago and Horang2 was good 3 months ago, clearly best is the superior player.
Remember Violet.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
June 17 2011 08:12 GMT
#271
After watching what Best did in the Pro-Am games...........he betrays me like this. I had so much faith in him as well
zlosynus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Czech Republic339 Posts
June 17 2011 10:41 GMT
#272
On June 17 2011 03:27 gostunv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 16:00 Vasoline73 wrote:
Yellow for number one power rank imo. Good way to put a legend to rest :D



W..... T..... F.......

someone should slap you upside the head for this.

obviously Yellow should be placed in the NUMBER TWO spot!


Actually, I would put him as number one. He really deserves this spot in his career, at least once. It is quite sad that KT could not win him gold in the WL finals.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
June 17 2011 13:50 GMT
#273
On June 16 2011 13:47 Mortality wrote:
A class / S class isn't just about % wins, especially not when you're considering a sample size of 10 games or less. Even if you win only 30% of your games the probability that you will go on a 10 game win streak over a career of 100 games is surprisingly high.


It's 4%
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
June 17 2011 15:05 GMT
#274
So how will Bisu being terrible in the OSL prelims hurt his placement? I mean it's now downright shameful how bad he is in individual leagues.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 17 2011 15:10 GMT
#275
On June 17 2011 16:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Ahaha, you just called Horang2 nondescript. That is the biggest joke I've ever seen.

Also yes, Best was good 3 years ago and Horang2 was good 3 months ago, clearly best is the superior player.



How would you describe his play?

Also yes, Horang2 was good 3 months ago and best is good now, clearly horang2 is the superior player.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
June 17 2011 15:15 GMT
#276
They are both good now and both deserve a shot. They both failed in the OSL, but actually only 4 of the current 10 PR players have made it to the final 28 OSL players left.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 17 2011 16:43 GMT
#277
This should definitely have some effect on Bisu's rank. There's no ''He would've gone all the way if he hadn't been forced to play Flash twice'' excuse here, is there? His strongest match-up, relatively bad player, Bo3.

On the other hand, which players are showing consistency enough to be placed above him?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 18:49:21
June 17 2011 18:45 GMT
#278
(Z)n.Die_soO probably deserves a spot. He made it out of the OSL qualifiers and he's got a Perfect PL record with victories against (P)Stats and (P)Stork.

Same with (T)BaBy and (P)JangBi.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 17 2011 18:51 GMT
#279
Can't believe Mr. Jangbang is back to being a contender for a PR spot. Makes me happy.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 19:17:02
June 17 2011 19:11 GMT
#280
On June 17 2011 15:34 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 14:36 Mortality wrote:
looks at results in the context of history and qualitative in-game performance. Otherwise there is NO POINT AT ALL to having this ranking.



Well, in the context of history, Best is most known for being an OSL finalist, and Horang2 is known for being the guy with a number in his name.


How many YEARS ago was Best a finalist?

In the context of history Best has just broken from the worst slump of his career and had been an inch away from retirement. In the context of history, Best has only shown us that his strongest match has returned to form.

In the context of history, Horang2 has been a ferocious sniper who is now showing dominance in a second match.

And If you are going to arbitrarily say that 3 months is recent, then I'm going to arbitrarily say 3 years is recent. Therefore best has a better record.


Engage in fan wank elsewhere please. I like Best -- I argued for him on PR more than 3 years ago. But if you think the Best of today has proven himself to be the same as the Best of Ever 08 OSL then you are sadly delusional.

On June 18 2011 00:10 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 16:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Ahaha, you just called Horang2 nondescript. That is the biggest joke I've ever seen.

Also yes, Best was good 3 years ago and Horang2 was good 3 months ago, clearly best is the superior player.



How would you describe his play?

Also yes, Horang2 was good 3 months ago and best is good now, clearly horang2 is the superior player.


Horang2 is 4-0 so far this month, 9-1 in his last 10 games. Do you even pay attention to progaming at all?
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
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