EPTWhat is your time zone?
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seRapH
United States9760 Posts
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PhizicsDefied
United States22 Posts
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uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
What is the purpose of this poll, btw? | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Gleve
United States206 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:33 seRapH wrote: East coast represent~! | ||
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ChickenLips
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R1CH
Netherlands10341 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:36 uNiGNoRe wrote: CET :/ What is the purpose of this poll, btw? TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. EDIT: Some people are misinterpreting this post to mean that the poll will determine what TL time will be. This is not the case, I'm simply stating we are considering making some changes to the way times are displayed on TL and it would be helpful to know what time zones are the most popular. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7802 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. could you make the upcoming events 'bar' run on the time of the users pc, i see events posted for times that mean nothing to me so i have to go to the full list to see a countdown in hours and minutes | ||
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seRapH
United States9760 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. D: NEVER MIND I'M KST | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. lol its about time. I was pretty annoyed at converting KST and EST time in the first few months here and plus, daylight savings really confused me for a while >_>.. Anyways, now im accustomed to it and i dont mind but i think making the time changeable is an awesome thing | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. I was afraid this was the case, almost voted KST because of that...dont change it  | ||
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:47 KobraKay wrote: Yea Iam not to fancy about it changing either.... TL just wouldn't be the same.I was afraid this was the case, almost voted KST because of that...dont change it | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
Lol shit me too. | ||
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NoobStyles
Australia257 Posts
KST for life! | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
I don't know what I would do if it became EST, KST is my real time zone on TL! No matter where you change it to there will be at least 70% of the population that has the wrong time (according to poll when I posted). If it is to change, I imagine EST makes the most sense because the TL headquarters are here as well. It makes me sad to see parts of TL change like this | ||
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
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Sluninek
Czech Republic3 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
So that time would seem fitting. Voted for west though. | ||
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fabulously
Norway724 Posts
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mtmf
Brazil420 Posts
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SaftKalasEmil
Sweden213 Posts
lol same here ^^ plz dont change!!!! | ||
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:41 Vasoline73 wrote: PST fo lyfe!! You know it!!! | ||
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Eyx
England165 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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Proflo
United States148 Posts
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. Please keep it on KST, or at the very least have the KST available. | ||
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mtvacuum
United States979 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. Why not allow each user to set his own time zone and the times would show accordingly? | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:44 Chill wrote: Mountain but it wasn't an option so I voted EST because I don't want to see the time in some crazy European time haha attaboy Chill! | ||
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evantrees
Canada497 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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Hoju
United States449 Posts
Or better yet, have it set to the user's preferred time zone so every registered user will see all posts and the calendar set to their own time zone. But, I understand if you want to be lazy | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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tyr
France1686 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
lol same!! :< I don't want it to change from KST. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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Issor
United States870 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
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Tricks
United States252 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
I know. I'm so used to kst. I have my secondary clock in windows set to kst. My watch set to kst. My secondary time on my phone set to kst 1500 post. Is about KST :DD | ||
Spica
United States5582 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:07 ZidaneTribal wrote: maybe we can just add a US time alongside the korean time This seems like a good compromise. Or add all the times for an even better compromise! :D | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50323 Posts
PLEASE DON'T CHANGE just add the other timezones. plus there is a clock on the bottom right of your screen anyways. | ||
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Deleted User 109835
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
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potatoedoughnut
United States334 Posts
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. if thats the whole point of this pool then nevermind me voting EST and change my vote to KST :D | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:57 Hoju wrote: Run it off GMT, most people know their time difference from GMT. Although, I've gotten used to converting from KST so it's not as much of an issue as it used to be. Or better yet, have it set to the user's preferred time zone so every registered user will see all posts and the calendar set to their own time zone. But, I understand if you want to be lazy This may also create more incentive for people to register. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
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Binky1842
United States2599 Posts
arizona standard time. pacific sometimes, mountain others. depends on daylight savings | ||
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K3NDR1C
United States28 Posts
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DOMINOSC
Canada345 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
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mikehall683
United States159 Posts
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Robqxz
Germany78 Posts
Apart from that, I got used to the time difference from Europe (CET) to the American timezones, but Korean time is still somewhat uncommon to figure out. Thus, I really find it useful, because with Korean time and with my time it's easy for me to check how late it is at any SC2-relevant places. | ||
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Tzel
United States72 Posts
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pinkranger15
Philippines1597 Posts
now that im really used to it | ||
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maneatingshoe
Canada484 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. What's the problem with staying KST? There is already the option to switch to local time. STARCRAFT will always be about Korea. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19255 Posts
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kefkaesque
United States34 Posts
New York City and Washington DC, center of the modern world baby. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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grandkai
Canada71 Posts
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salito
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
TL has always been KST and all of us bittervets (EVE term being butchered for BW era TLer use) will be so confused! I've gotten so accustomed to KST that I don't even have to sit and think about it anymore, I just know my KST time translated into EST now. | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
If using custom time probably store all times as GMT, then convert it to the user setting time when displaying. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3129 Posts
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SaftKalasEmil
Sweden213 Posts
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Weebem-Na
United States221 Posts
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=144478 Most pics are down but those who remember it will know what i mean. | ||
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Garnier
Canada33 Posts
Ontario Canada here! | ||
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ahwala
Germany392 Posts
Same here. | ||
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FoBuLouS
United States570 Posts
I'm used to reading KST so it's fine for me. | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Aragos
France182 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On February 15 2011 13:57 Torenhire wrote: EST, but before any changes get put in put up a "change" "don't change" poll (if any changes are being put in) TL has always been KST and all of us bittervets (EVE term being butchered for BW era TLer use) will be so confused! I've gotten so accustomed to KST that I don't even have to sit and think about it anymore, I just know my KST time translated into EST now. TL switched to KST just a few years ago. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=57693 so "always" is a bit wrong to say the least. I'm still confused after that change to be honest. EDIT: And since it's a dutch clan I think CET would be the correct time to use. | ||
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Jibaiya
Finland1 Post
altho, keep it KST please. =) | ||
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
Edit: Um TL.Net is KST please keep it this way no matter what. Seriously I'd fuck up my head and I dunno seems right to have it be KST. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Wendig0
United States9 Posts
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Stamper
Germany148 Posts
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
EDIT: upon seeing why this is happening, i think that it would make the most sense to be Eastern time, but it might be weird to change it up. I am used to converting from Eastern time..... stupid east, haha | ||
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MrMoog
Denmark6 Posts
You know there is a far better way, which is GMT +- I myself am from Denmark, making me a GMT + 1, Brits would be GMT and Finland and Greece GMT +2 and Russia GMT +3. See no weired abbreviations just math that any geek can understand. | ||
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silencesc
United States464 Posts
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Skytalker
Sweden671 Posts
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NeWnAr
Singapore231 Posts
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
If you were thinking about changing it, wouldn't a more appropriate question be "what time zone do you want TL to run on?" | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
Maybe it would be possible to make it an option in your profile to change the clock to a different time zone if you wanted when logged in. But it seems like a bit of work for very little gain. The calander tells you the time to the next event anyway regardless of time zone and your computer (probably) has a clock in your time zone so threres very little need for an extra clock in my opioion. (which makes me wonder why I just put this much effort into thinking about it, muh) | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
Plus it's easy for me since KST is GMT +8 +1 for me | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
Proleague matches from late evening onwards. Jealous? EDIT: Oh, and GSL. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. Please don't do this, all BW tournaments and even GSL tournaments run on KST. I don't think anyone would argue against OSL + MSL + PL + GSL > all other BW/SC2 tournaments combined so I don't see how changing the timezone from KST to anything else would make even the slightest bit of sense. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Darn, same here. Should have read the comments first D: | ||
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Scheefe
Netherlands226 Posts
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SladeR
Canada61 Posts
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
Anyway, CET. | ||
Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
If I want to know my own time I'll look at a clock. | ||
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PointyHatBeast
Finland21 Posts
Perhaps it would be too complicated, but adding zones alongside KST during huge tournaments (like MLG, assembly or ESL) would be usefull. I allways have to google time zones and compare to mine whenever I check tournament times. | ||
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HellGreen
Denmark1146 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:42 turdburgler wrote: could you make the upcoming events 'bar' run on the time of the users pc, i see events posted for times that mean nothing to me [...] +1 to the above. It should be possible to get each registered user to enter his/her preferred timezone and use that to serve the times to the user. Or just save the preferred setting in a cookie. For anyone who doesn't want to hope/wait for this to happen, look at the "SCCalendar" or the "TeamLiquidNotifer" apps. Use the search box to find them. They are GREAT apps! And please include some more time zone options in the "Time" calculator (top right link). Edit: I have a reason for why it would be a good idea to change the time zone from KST to the user's choice: I live in a CET timezone. At 4pm (16:00) "todays date" changes on the Teamliquid event calendar (KST are +8 of CET). It's confusing (for me). Sometimes I have to click on the that date (+1 day by my CET calendar) to find events (typically from the EU/US) that are occurring later today (because in Korea they occour on a different date) >  Cheers, | ||
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lazyo
Germany90 Posts
Lazy admins? No money for logs? I demand an explanation! | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
I'd much rather keep KST than change to Eastern or Pacific time. Korea is still the most important time zone for all things Broodwar, and lots of important SC2 events are held there too. How about you keep the forum time as it is, but make the TL calendar customized for each user's selected time zone? | ||
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
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HellGreen
Denmark1146 Posts
On February 15 2011 19:58 lazyo wrote: Why create a poll when all the data you need is in people's IP addresses. Lazy admins? No money for logs? I demand an explanation! 'Cause that wouldn't reflect peoples feelings about a possible change? | ||
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lazyo
Germany90 Posts
On February 15 2011 20:03 HellGreen wrote: 'Cause that wouldn't reflect peoples feelings about a possible change? Then why not create a poll that asks how people feel about it. This way all you get is flawed data. | ||
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TheZeth
United Kingdom16 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:07 Sluninek wrote: CET +1 forever! That's actually EET, which is Eastern Europe Time. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
PLEASE. | ||
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HellGreen
Denmark1146 Posts
On February 15 2011 20:07 lazyo wrote: Then why not create a poll that asks how people feel about it. This way all you get is flawed data. 'Cause that would require two polls. Basically, IP-localization is not an exact method of determining users current country/time zone. And it wouldn't start the discussion we now have in this thread, which is probably quite benefitial. | ||
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Madsquare
Germany157 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. I would like the times to be displayed in the users selected Timezone, for registered users. Since it makes the most sense. Guests could be auto detected (according to their IP adress - country - timezone of the country) or the result of this poll. cheers, madsquare | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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Archerylady
277 Posts
KST is good because it is neutral between Europe and North America, and is useful for Korean tournaments too. | ||
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Dezire
Netherlands640 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:07 ZidaneTribal wrote: maybe we can just add a US time alongside the korean time Which one should it be then? EST since they are the most? That still leaves the CST and PST people (who outnumber the EST if you add them up) to "recalculate times". If there is no way to do the times on the time of the computer I would think the KST based timing should be kept as it is. People just have to get used to it and it doesnt matter if it is +7 or -11 or whatever ... just get used to it for your timezone. Starcraft is a global game and you should be able to adapt to global timings. KST is just fine and TL has done an admirable job of giving the times in their calendar. | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
But I think CET should be main TL time, would be nice | ||
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AWakefield
Canada420 Posts
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Luiwtf
England217 Posts
I'd say either keep it KST (what I'd prefer) or, if you have to, change it to EST. I have GMT/KST/EST all showing on my windows clock, so one of the three is fine . | ||
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Luiwtf
England217 Posts
On February 15 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote: just get used to it for your timezone. Starcraft is a global game and you should be able to adapt to global timings. To this I'd just like to add that in windows you can have it so that when you click on the clock, it will show your time zone, plus upto two other time zones time. For Windows 7: Click on the time. Click "Change date and time settings". Click the "Additional Clocks" tab. Check "Show this clock", select a time zone, and give it a name. Click OK. Now when you click on your clock it will show your main timezone clock as the large left one, then a smaller one (or two if you chose two) on the right of that. As my above post says, I have my main one showing GMT (my time zone), then one showing EST (for American TV shows), then a final one showing KST (for SC2 related stuff). Makes it alot easier to keep track of when TV shows are on, and when stuff like GSL etc. is on. . | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. Stick with KST. You've still got your core BW group living in KST, plus the biggest tournament (GSL) being KST. The locations for the smaller tournaments literally span the globe and there isn't one with both regularity and size to warrant being the timezone focal point outside of Korea. | ||
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Furycrab
Canada456 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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xrayEU
Sweden571 Posts
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ostarasang
98 Posts
especially since sc2 is international atm and u need to convert times on quite a regular basis .. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2748 Posts
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Juxx
325 Posts
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BrainDrained
Sweden35 Posts
Its really nice with the KST time when watching the GSL but with all the worldwide tournaments with their times posted in diffrent timezones can get confusing. | ||
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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
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Lemure
189 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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xsn
Poland66 Posts
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KTF_CloaK
Netherlands1338 Posts
:D | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
selecting one timezone for all users will always leave a significant part of the forum behind as tl.net is a very geographically divided forum. the poll clearly shows that about 50% come from the US and about 36% from europe... | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Latham
9563 Posts
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Denia1
148 Posts
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shappens
Korea (South)137 Posts
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Zio
United States48 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
I do agree with keeping it KST though, i have memorised that the GSL Events are at 18:00 KST, not 4:00 (?) AM EST. | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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Strike_
Netherlands704 Posts
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KazKamasa
Sweden186 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
:D | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
that would be very cool! | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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MHT
Sweden1026 Posts
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
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Felby
Norway81 Posts
but TL.net is very big in europe | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
Actually, I've learnt to count backwards from KST over the years, so you might as well keep it as far as I'm concerned. Would piss off the americans less too, since no one gets "their first choice". My 2c | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
:D | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
EDIT: However for the sake of a new TL time zone, I would say just add a Eastern time(since im used to getting all my times in the format of 9/8 Central, where Eastern time takes a precedence) and I would also suggest maybe adding CET as well for the EU users. I will be kinda sad to see KST go since ive been looking at that for the last 5 years lol, but as shown here KST only makes up 2 percent, give or take, of the ppl who view this site. | ||
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nforce
Bulgaria116 Posts
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NibbloniaN
United States377 Posts
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TSM
Great Britain584 Posts
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
but imho you should stick with KST, since its more elitist and since TL is the elite, I think it fits perfectly  | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
That said i learn to tell when events are by calculating the difference in hours between current time in KST and when the event is supposed to start and then adding it to my local time so i don't think it will matter too much | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On February 16 2011 01:49 Rinrun wrote: Partying in the Est represent :p I think cet is a.fine time zone. Never was a fan of kst even though its like 13 hrs difference from est | ||
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Jonteman
Sweden644 Posts
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climax
United States1088 Posts
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LagT_T
Argentina535 Posts
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
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Lucktar
United States526 Posts
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
But yeah, the KST time gets a bit annoying. I just have to look at the "Time Remaining" to actually tell when its supposed to start. | ||
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RidL
Netherlands39 Posts
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
why dont you just make the time variable so it changes for every user depending on his timezone settings (add it to your cms etc), like for example on esreality iirc, then there's no need for polling and no more annoying weird times. | ||
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neitoperhonen
Finland83 Posts
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Starfox
Austria699 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. Javascript and alway convert timezones into localtime unless the user specifies a specific one in his profile? Would be nice  | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
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bLooD.
Germany470 Posts
Quite a lot of central europeans around here. | ||
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teh_longinator
Canada725 Posts
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Tufas
Austria2259 Posts
Interesting poll indeed. | ||
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Annq
Germany104 Posts
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Pixel.
Netherlands287 Posts
On February 16 2011 04:54 Zorkmid wrote: Maybe (probably) I'm an idiot, but don't most forums lets the user set up their own timezone so that everything makes sense to each user no matter where they are logging in from? Yes think this works the best. Whould be great to see every Tourment in your own time zone. Or do i miss somthing know ? | ||
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Believer
Sweden212 Posts
Naming something "Central Time" is just over the top silly. | ||
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Gaxton
Sweden2328 Posts
Best timezone fuck yeah! | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Calvin[Deck]
Denmark88 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. You should be able to determine your user distribution in timezones based on the ip addresses. If count each time a IP makes a http session, and convert that to a country based on the ip. it should be fairly accurate. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
Btw maybe you could include more clocks on the top right corner of the site. It would make live so much easier at times (mostly when there is some American tourney who doesn't include european time). Gosugamers and some other sites do this already. Quite helpful actually. | ||
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RedPill
United States63 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. I'm EST, but I think CET would a nice compromise to display on the site. It has a plurality of users thing going for it too. | ||
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
But srsly, Keep it on KST plz. TL must have KST!!! | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
But I do live in that time zone so I'm not unbiased. | ||
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Neoattitude
Guam172 Posts
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Ezinurpain
United States31 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:44 Chill wrote: Mountain but it wasn't an option so I voted EST because I don't want to see the time in some crazy European time Same here, US EST seems to make the most sense, plus that's where the new TL headquarters is located right? New York City? | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
not sure whether other was the right choice or not now i know the polls intentions | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. This site should cater to those who actually take the time to register. | ||
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dronescout
Iceland246 Posts
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
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Pete!
56 Posts
Add to this the location of the new(ish) Team Liquid office, and the fact that EST is the closest relevant timezone to the centre point between the West Coast of the USA and Eastern Europe - a geographical window that a vast majority of Team Liquid's demographic hails from, and EST seems like the most logical timezone to use for a multitude of reasons. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Teamliquid taught me a lot about time zones and conversions and I want to find somewhere (here) to use that skill effectively! | ||
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DerNebel
Denmark648 Posts
God I hope this doesn't become a habit. | ||
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zhouzhou
Canada138 Posts
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1903 Posts
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BatCat
Austria630 Posts
GMT would be great, I think it would be the easiest compromise. | ||
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Darren1337
Ireland73 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19255 Posts
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
FOR NAZGUL!! | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
Also, maintaining KST good in any case. If SC2 events are all over the world, there's no central time for SC2. Virtually all BW events are in Korea, and they are televised regularly. There is still a central place for ESPORTS in general. Finally, I think it's a little misleading to have the poll say one thing and, in a practical sense, mean another altogether. Why not have a poll that says 'what time zone do you want the TL clock on' and base any changes on what people actually think about the issue at hand. | ||
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Darth Saros
Czech Republic245 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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PangO
Chile1870 Posts
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Orphen
United States101 Posts
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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svperstar
Sweden60 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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zJayy962
1363 Posts
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Gak2
Canada418 Posts
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Flanagan
United States166 Posts
On February 16 2011 12:42 Furios wrote: central/east coast is like the worst timezone to be if you're trying to watch live korean starcraft =( Gogo watching GSL at 4:00 AM CET >_> | ||
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OverKiLL.
United States199 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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seRapH
United States9760 Posts
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vek
Australia936 Posts
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
On February 16 2011 13:16 vek wrote: AEST but please don't change it from KST or at least give people the option to pick a specific timezone. I think that the "pick a specific a timezone" option is an excellent idea. Might be a touch tough for the site developers / maintainers though... Not sure. | ||
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isM
United States735 Posts
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wideye
United States209 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Murdoink
Chile1219 Posts
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Wekapedia
Hungary77 Posts
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Azuricate
Sweden35 Posts
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
On February 16 2011 15:10 Wekapedia wrote: Voted CET, but you should just keep it KST imo. Agreed. I don't like change... | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
EDIT: Why in the world do people care to see KST? | ||
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StewKer
United States301 Posts
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King[Neikos]
Costa Rica506 Posts
On February 15 2011 11:03 YunhOLee wrote: if thats the whole point of this pool then nevermind me voting EST and change my vote to KST :D this is pretty much my opinion too | ||
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Char711
United States862 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. I would love an option to customize our time. That is, we can choose which times to show -- everything or just, for example, US Central (my time here in Austin, TX, USA) and KST. With so many different places that do tournaments and the drastically different locales and tournament interests of TL members (e.g., only watches European tournaments and lives in (a) UK, (b) Germany or (c) Italy), I think that needs can only be truly met by full customization rather than another set clock which would, undoubtedly, end up running into the same problem as the KST one sometime in the future. I know that I, personally, have gotten rather annoyed because of the overwhelming amount of KST. Considering that I'm too lazy to go find the converter all of the time and am not an avid enough of a fan to know the difference automatically (I played BW but wasn't into TL and stuff like this back then), I end up relying on the TL calendar (and, even then, usually on what it says is "live" whenever I'm on). | ||
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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
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kommunalka
United States550 Posts
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disco
Netherlands1667 Posts
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Aetherial
Australia917 Posts
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lowsian
Malaysia10 Posts
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sawedust
United States506 Posts
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PeAcY6969
France621 Posts
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Nao
Poland166 Posts
I voted CET but I really like the standardized KST time on TL (would vote KST if I'd knew the purpose of the pool), and as others pointed out GMT is also a good and fair choice. | ||
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Potthead
Australia121 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
i thought only great britain is utc (and some west-african countries...) | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10756 Posts
Se Germans are winning this poll (with friendly help of basically all their neighbours ).I never understood why there is no customisation possible... . | ||
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Annq
Germany104 Posts
On February 16 2011 10:50 thopol wrote: KST. I don't see the issue here. Any registered user gets time in their selected zone. Any guest has the current time KST on the top of every page and their own zone's time readily available to them via PC, watch, phone, clock etc. Why do people need TL to tell them what time it is where they are? Also, maintaining KST good in any case. If SC2 events are all over the world, there's no central time for SC2. Virtually all BW events are in Korea, and they are televised regularly. There is still a central place for ESPORTS in general. KST is just being represented by 1% of the visitors. Thats all i need to say | ||
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3loodMoon
Thailand13 Posts
I have no idea why it isn't TST (Thailand Standard Time) | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
Changing for KST was a very good idea and i don't think there is any reason to question this for now. | ||
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
I like KST time although being able to change it to what ever time you are in would probably be the best thing I guess.. | ||
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VForce
Germany90 Posts
Apart from just liking it because its "unique" or "tradition" I think the fact that just about 1% of the user have KST as their regular time is actually a plus. The european time zones (CET and GMT) make about 40% at the moment so it would make the most sense to switch to one of those (probably CET) but I can see a lot of the NA users not beeing pleased with this (i could see europeans be pissed if it would be the other way round I am not bashing people from the US). So keeping it on KST may be a bit inconvenient but its at least equally inconvenient for all of us. If you add that to the historical context of TL beeing using KST I think they should leave things as they are. | ||
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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
On February 16 2011 22:44 VForce wrote: I totally understand why it makes sense to think about some changes, but I like KST (although it used to confuse me a lot in the beginning). Apart from just liking it because its "unique" or "tradition" I think the fact that just about 1% of the user have KST as their regular time is actually a plus. The european time zones (CET and GMT) make about 40% at the moment so it would make the most sense to switch to one of those (probably CET) but I can see a lot of the NA users not beeing pleased with this (i could see europeans be pissed if it would be the other way round I am not bashing people from the US). So keeping it on KST may be a bit inconvenient but its at least equally inconvenient for all of us. If you add that to the historical context of TL beeing using KST I think they should leave things as they are. If you saying the EU time makes up 40 percent then Ill say the NA time makes up 47 percent, dont forget we have East, Central, and Pacific times. My way to solve the problem would be to put both US eastern time, and EU CET time. Im actually in Central but it makes sense for it to be east since thats all most times are given anyway | ||
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Speedbump
New Zealand338 Posts
On February 15 2011 17:37 Alethios wrote: QFT bro. Always feels good watching GSL while having after-work brews.NZST baby! Proleague matches from late evening onwards. Jealous? EDIT: Oh, and GSL. NZST here as well, but I'm pretty happy using Korean Time. I've gotten used to converting to Korean time, because Proleague/OSL/MSL used it and GSL uses it now. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6173 Posts
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Slakkoo
Sweden1119 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
Then again, if it should be changed, obviously the UTC time zone is the only thing that makes sense, since it's the universal time zone. I would then suggest that some function is added to the site so that you can change all timestamps to localize with your own settings on your profile, and keep UTC+0 as the official time. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Sobba
Sweden576 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On February 17 2011 04:12 Sobba wrote: If you change it to CET then americans will whine. If you change to some US time then EUs will whine. Then again, (young) europeans incl. myself generally have a decent 'feel' for US time, as in, I can reasonably estimate what time it is in NY without much trouble. I'm guessing most young, tech-savy americans can estimate european time reasonably well too. However, when it comes to Korean time I am completely at a loss and I end up constantly googling the time in seoul or hovering over the gomtv countdown. I seriously doubt I'm the only one ;p. I'd say a change to either eastern US or CET would benefit both european and american visitors, once they get over the shock of 'loosing' this very very important issue ;p. | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
I thought US times would get more votes? :p | ||
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kusu
Sweden440 Posts
On February 17 2011 04:57 DwmC_Foefen wrote: CET I thought US times would get more votes? :p Put together all US timezones and there you have it ^^ | ||
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MoreFaSho
United States1427 Posts
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MadChem
Germany218 Posts
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
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SYNC_qx
Germany197 Posts
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Mokaccino
Australia4 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
I would prefer GMT though. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:44 Chill wrote: Mountain but it wasn't an option so I voted EST because I don't want to see the time in some crazy European time Mountain, lol, who's mountain time.. CST holla? | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Airwaffle
Sweden50 Posts
Would be funny to see what amount the answers got for each hour of the day. | ||
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ejac
United States1195 Posts
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idemo
Croatia7 Posts
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Lori_ftw
Germany286 Posts
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Char711
United States862 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On February 17 2011 07:52 ejac wrote: I'd say just keep the time as KST. Sure, sc2 isn't completely korea centralized like sc1 was, but it is still the simplest time zone overall considering how global TL is. It's just weird, 6 years later, knowing I have to click Tuesday to see what's happening on Monday... | ||
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MechaCthulhu
United States136 Posts
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Kalpman
Sweden406 Posts
Cant believe why Im in a north american clan, its really fucking up my schedule -_- | ||
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cyberspace
Canada955 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On February 17 2011 08:05 Chill wrote: It's just weird, 6 years later, knowing I have to click Tuesday to see what's happening on Monday... its awesome finally having a website thats close to my timezone as its standard :D no matter where i lived, id want this as KST still | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2748 Posts
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
Also, the events on the sidebar at 18:00 or 10:00 mean very little. I'm all for options though. If it's feasible, having users choose the timezone that appears would be ideal, methinks. | ||
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Lava
Germany32 Posts
Edit: ignore this, the poll already calls them US Eastern and US Pacific time. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
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eddytlaw
United States102 Posts
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Lightningbullet
United States507 Posts
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Lightningbullet
United States507 Posts
On February 17 2011 09:52 Thegilaboy wrote: Where are all my fellow US Centrals? I'here. Yeah it kinda feel slonely, doesn't it. No one plays Starcraft here | ||
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drcatellino
Canada346 Posts
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Oozo
Finland432 Posts
Actually did click on the "other" as its +2 of CET and does not really count as CET. If I would knew what this poll was about, would have voted KST all the way. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:07 ZidaneTribal wrote: maybe we can just add a | ||
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Tef
Sweden443 Posts
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pRo9aMeR
595 Posts
I'm surprised that there are only 159 in KST though. | ||
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DND_Enkil
Sweden598 Posts
TL running on US time would be a pain, and i imagine US users would think the same if it ran on CET time. KST is a nice compromise adn TL would not be the same without it. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On February 17 2011 16:05 Jienny wrote: Poll was deceiving. Asked me for what is my time zone, not what you wish would be teamliquids time zone. Actually did click on the "other" as its +2 of CET and does not really count as CET. If I would knew what this poll was about, would have voted KST all the way. Your timezone is EET by the way. It's one of the options | ||
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Hrypa
Poland16 Posts
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
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Oozo
Finland432 Posts
On February 17 2011 20:08 Euronyme wrote: Your timezone is EET by the way. It's one of the options Darn, you're right. Can't change it (needs new glasses). | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:39 R1CH wrote: TL time has been historically on KST time since that's where all the action was. With SC2, this is no longer the case and we're considering making some changes. While we have some good data about our registered users who have selected their time zone, the majority of TL visitors are guests so we don't have any information about them. The sidebar poll is usable by both guests and registered users, so we hope it will paint a clearer picture of what time zones our visitors are from. EDIT: Some people are misinterpreting this post to mean that the poll will determine what TL time will be. This is not the case, I'm simply stating we are considering making some changes to the way times are displayed on TL and it would be helpful to know what time zones are the most popular. In other words, TL.net is preparing to move to a US time zone, and is using this poll to test the water and predict the reaction its user base will have. Not good. | ||
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zdarr
France375 Posts
On February 17 2011 21:00 GeLaar wrote: In other words, TL.net is preparing to move to a US time zone, and is using this poll to test the water and predict the reaction its user base will have. Not good. it sounds like it'll be CET and not an US Time zone referring to the poll. But as some other people pointed it out GMT / UTC would fit well because everybody knows the difference between there timezone and GMT | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
In conclusion, best reasonable option by far is GMT / UTC for the reasons mentioned above. | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:57 Hoju wrote: Run it off GMT, most people know their time difference from GMT. QFT Ive allways wondered why this is not the case... having shitloads of 3 three letter combos < GMT +X. So much easier for everyone. Edit: in fact i only very recently learned about CET, KST etc. Ive allways said my timezome is GMT+1. | ||
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Vinx
Canada259 Posts
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Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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Zevah
Argentina187 Posts
I'm an idiot and i usually convert the hour bad and end up missing what i was trying to watch xD | ||
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Wazabo
Italy124 Posts
Best option for me would be GMT, like many other said everyone know his time in GMT +/-X | ||
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
Well It would be great if u can see multiple timezones | ||
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nehl
Germany270 Posts
On February 18 2011 02:04 Scrubwave wrote: Wow, surprisingly a lot people from CET. not as much as from the us. keep in mind that most of europe has the same timezone while the us has 4(?) | ||
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squidge42
United States1 Post
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
On February 18 2011 05:49 nehl wrote: CET here not as much as from the us. keep in mind that most of europe has the same timezone while the us has 4(?) Yep: Eastern, Central, Mountain, and Pacific times. Also some outlining areas might use different times zones. For example Newfoundland a province in Canada uses NST which is 30 minutes ahead of Eastern. | ||
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Grezzz
United Kingdom78 Posts
It would make it a lot easier for me being able to play in GMT, and fine for those who wish to stick to KST. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
It would be nice if there was another time display for our select time zone in the top right corner, but I don't mind doing the little time conversion in my head otherwise. | ||
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
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Sablar
Sweden880 Posts
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Shinshady
Canada1237 Posts
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CurLy[]
United States759 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17331 Posts
And a newer topic: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=193238 | ||
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
On February 18 2011 05:49 nehl wrote: CET here not as much as from the us. keep in mind that most of europe has the same timezone while the us has 4(?) Why does that matter in this case? Even if you were on the east coast you would still have to convert west coast time to your own... Keep it KST though! [edit] oops im a tired reet, please ignore. | ||
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Nation_
United States111 Posts
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.AK
United States561 Posts
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
On February 18 2011 08:12 DminusTerran wrote: Yep: Eastern, Central, Mountain, and Pacific times. Also some outlining areas might use different times zones. For example Newfoundland a province in Canada uses NST which is 30 minutes ahead of Eastern. Yes but people in Europe have 3 time zones not 1, GMT (+0) CET (+1) and EET (+2) | ||
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mpanikos
Greece20 Posts
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Tiax;mous
669 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4731 Posts
CET +GMT+EET 4872+2302+451=7625 US E + US P + US C 3877+2160+1530= 7567 | ||
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jojoleb
Lebanon180 Posts
lag is seriously bad sometimes ( but mainly for my country's slow internet connection) | ||
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icclown
Denmark270 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On February 15 2011 10:40 intrigue wrote: EST time zone = bEST time zone CET'S not true! KST has some of the best time of all times! | ||
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DownMaxX
Canada1311 Posts
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Cow
Canada1104 Posts
Miss PST very much ;~; | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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jabberwocky
Singapore59 Posts
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