EPTBut TL and Blizz forums are completely different. TL actually contributes to the Starcraft community.
edit: uh-oh. 1199 posts. I wanna stay a Lurker forever...
If TL was Real ID only, I would
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
But TL and Blizz forums are completely different. TL actually contributes to the Starcraft community. edit: uh-oh. 1199 posts. I wanna stay a Lurker forever... | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
On July 09 2010 11:03 Dromar wrote: But TL and Blizz forums are completely different. TL actually contributes to the Starcraft community. ( This. Voted wouldn't change my behavior cause TL is well....Awesome? Though my temptation to troll would be completely gone probably heh | ||
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Optimator
United States53 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
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AnyOne
Chile547 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
over internet i think its more fun to use my internet nick while in real life i want ppl to call me my real name, dont see a point to thread each other | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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Kashmir
New Zealand178 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
id prolly end up reading it occasionally but i wouldn't come here regularly anymore | ||
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OrderlyChaos
United States1115 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10495 Posts
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Banteng
United States147 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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hoborg
United States430 Posts
But there's no option for "Circumvent the system to use a fake name" which is what I would actually do. | ||
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Slaanash
Canada2 Posts
Not that I post much anyways.  | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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-ReMeDy-
United States46 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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mcneebs
Canada391 Posts
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kohkomo
Canada135 Posts
I'm sure if our old posts were kept hidden (# of posts kept). Then people can start new (And still browse!)! Refering to change my behavior option. Looks like I'm with the majority here though, just continue browsing | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
Chances of being trolled if everyone had it seems relatively slim. So, whatever. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On July 09 2010 13:51 Chrispy wrote: My real name is Chris Brown so yeah, good luck finding me on Google. Epic generic name. lol. I chose browse TL. I don't post much as it is, and my last name is family unique, as it's been Americanized (oh how I miss my old last name. sigh.) and anyone with it is a relative. So I'm an easy find. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On July 09 2010 14:31 flamewheel wrote: Not change my behaviour. I wouldn't vote "post more" since I spam the site too much already. Hell if there are people who know my name. This. I wouldn't change, but I'd enjoy the lesser amount of trolling. | ||
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Solai
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
I'd probably just be mad and nerd rage a lot but still visit, kind of like how I get mad and nerd rage at bad programming/balance in sc2 but still play it. | ||
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llloveoov
Chile20 Posts
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Ioannis
Greece62 Posts
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Cow
Canada1104 Posts
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
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stet_tcl
Greece319 Posts
Mind you this applies to TL only. I'd probably stop posting on any other site. | ||
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Delvin
Finland141 Posts
On July 09 2010 17:19 stet_tcl wrote: "Not change my behavior" Mind you this applies to TL only. I'd probably stop posting on any other site. o.O people really think it's the worst thing in the history of the Internet if Blizz does this, but perfectly fine if an unofficial community site is behind it? Currently only 58% voted to stop posting here, as opposed to 78% in the poll for the Bnet forums. You'd think the same arguments would work against TL (zomg that guy is pro-MBS, let's start harassing them irl!). | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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TheTester
United States172 Posts
Plenty of people I play with know my real name anyway, so finding that out for someone willing to go such lengths wouldn't even be that hard. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
not post. start browsing. If i have a realID I'd like privacy like facebook (but better because fb sucks) | ||
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Mactavian
Canada60 Posts
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Hcti
Australia13 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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Tiwo
Netherlands306 Posts
And ofc. who says A has to say B, so here I go: Tim Wolf! | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
I would make a fake name and post as much as I wanted to with that. The intention of the poll is clear, however I am trusting TL a million times more than Blizzard with my data, since they are not currently making money from the site and dont have greedy shareholders who demand big profits. So this poll *should* be held over at Battlenet and not here. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On July 09 2010 17:58 Delvin wrote: o.O people really think it's the worst thing in the history of the Internet if Blizz does this, but perfectly fine if an unofficial community site is behind it? Currently only 58% voted to stop posting here, as opposed to 78% in the poll for the Bnet forums. You'd think the same arguments would work against TL (zomg that guy is pro-MBS, let's start harassing them irl!). Well, because it is the worst idea ever. And 58% intending to stop posting is hardly "perfectly fine". A A lot of the same arguments do work against TL but weigh differently. | ||
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3238 Posts
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check mate
Germany39 Posts
a lot of people say: "Yeah, i will enjoy the fact that there will be less trolling etc..." I dont see a difference if someone is going to be banned as user1 or as Bobby Steward (he will still return as user2 or Bobby Stewart) I suppose on blizzard forum they would go as far as to ask for proof: "So you're Bobby Steward?" "Yeh..." "Driving licence!" "..." And I don't have a doubt, that this Real ID stuff will also be used during gameplay... Anyway, back to the Poll: I think, that I would still read the forum tough or post under a fake name... | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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Thrill
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Delvin
Finland141 Posts
On July 09 2010 20:46 Schnake wrote: Well, because it is the worst idea ever. And 58% intending to stop posting is hardly "perfectly fine". A A lot of the same arguments do work against TL but weigh differently. Wasn't saying it's a good idea, but that technically it's "fine" for the other 42%. Anyway, the main point was that there's a 20% difference between the results even though the setting hasn't really changed at all. All the people who could find your information at Bnet forums could do it almost as easily at TL (I assume it'd be a little easier to make the connection between a game character and a real person at bnet forums, but the point stands). | ||
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Corrupt
Bulgaria1312 Posts
On July 09 2010 18:00 sashkata wrote: Post a lot less, mostly browse. LOL what? You'r ID actualy IS a variation of your real name dude. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
Edit: I guess that's kinda post differently :/ | ||
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
Just ... awful ! Who comes up with those ideas ?! | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
Even tho this is a community of BW, SC2 there is to many sick people. Special the mind of a nerd... | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
On July 09 2010 12:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: everyone knows my name anyways lol Same. Many of our top posters have their names known and some have even gone beyond that by staying in each other's houses or sharing hotel rooms, etc. People share much more personal information than their names. Even Zia, who the community had every reason to hate, had his real identity outed haha.I think there are some notable exceptions like Sonuvbob who I certainly wouldn't want to lose as a poster. And then we have http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/players/ | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On July 09 2010 21:48 Delvin wrote: Wasn't saying it's a good idea, but that technically it's "fine" for the other 42%. Anyway, the main point was that there's a 20% difference between the results even though the setting hasn't really changed at all. All the people who could find your information at Bnet forums could do it almost as easily at TL (I assume it'd be a little easier to make the connection between a game character and a real person at bnet forums, but the point stands). Some people may believe that the risk of drawing harassment from heated arguments is lower here because TL is moderated and thus some undesirables are filtered out. I feel that many TL-netters have a measure of pride in their community and strive for at least a semblance of civility in their altercations. I get annoyed at sentiments like, "BW is a low quality game." or "Protoss is easy mode even above the C ranks." but I'm not about to act like a child about it, and I believe a significant portion of my fellows here wouldn't either. Of course marketers/information traders, account hackers, and employers would all gain almost the same info on the poster and his/her gaming habits via real names on TL as on the Blizzard forums. Some people just aren't concerned about that. I believe someone mentioned this in the main thread, but to reiterate: people without sensitive property or information to be compromised, without relatives or loved ones to protect, or without the prospect of undergoing a job search have nothing to be worried about. People ignorant or in denial of specific risks also, in their own minds, have nothing to worry about. I would only browse if TL implemented this (I'm aware this poll is most likely rhetorical), at least until a superior Starcraft community arises. | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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Lightningbullet
United States507 Posts
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Coraz
United States252 Posts
please delete your account | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Also, I'd stop visiting because if we had to display our names, according to the 2000 U.S. Census I'm the only person in the country with the name I have, and from my experience it's not common in other places around the world. Using a fake name ftw EDIT: My main opposition for Real ID is if the kid I'm terrorizing one day goes on TL and finds my blog. Then I'd be seriously fucked. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On the other hand I have 10k+ posts on a community where I use my real name. | ||
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Corrupt
Bulgaria1312 Posts
It's easy for you Anthony Wilson, with your big knife. On July 09 2010 23:58 Eatme wrote: Since about 2/3 of the posters would dissappear I doubt I would stay. And if 2/3 of the posters dissapear the discussions would die down significantly and TL would slowly die. On the other hand I have 10k+ posts on a community where I use my real name. TL.net cannot be killed! TL fighting together 'till the very end of things.  | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
On July 09 2010 21:59 Corrupt wrote: LOL what? You'r ID actualy IS a variation of your real name dude. You sure about that? | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Also lolol GTR | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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Flameberger
United States226 Posts
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JayDee_
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Incognitodies
United Kingdom184 Posts
On July 10 2010 01:16 JayDee_ wrote: Seriously, who put "Not change my behavior"? I don't want some raged nerd sending me pizza's. It makes sense for the pro's because everybody knows who they are anyway. Real ID only = free pizzas? I might have to start posting on the bnet forums | ||
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simme123
Sweden810 Posts
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
I wouldn't want to spend my time with idiots. Everyone should be allowed privacy on the internet, if they wish to. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19234 Posts
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Wolfsinus
United States22 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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Genjimaru
Canada515 Posts
On July 10 2010 02:40 Wolfsinus wrote: Personally, I do not see why everyone hates people seeing their real name. This. I voted for not changing my behavior | ||
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hejakev
Sweden518 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On July 09 2010 13:51 Chrispy wrote: My real name is Chris Brown so yeah, good luck finding me on Google. I have just haxx0red into your computer and found all your pr0ns. You have many pr0ns. Will d3l3t3. + Show Spoiler + Oops. I haxx0red the wrong Chris Brown. 9999999 Chris Brown's to go. | ||
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Verilan
United States67 Posts
I don't particularly care for Real ID but if I'm objectively answering this question, then it'd be "post with more care" and I suspect that's how a lot of people would alter their behavior if the system was forced on them. "Post more, it's better" is obviously a sarcastic option and has no place in a serious poll. "Post less or differently" bundles up anyone who would choose "post with more care" as a negative. Well anyway... my gut answer was "not post and browse tl only" when confronted with those choices and it just goes to show what direction this kind of phrasing will skew the answers. | ||
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teekesselchen
Germany886 Posts
I don't tend to troll or insult people unless they are so stupid that I'ld insult them in real life as well so no changes for me. I'ld rather care on certain other internet pages :X | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
cause i surely wont publicize my real name if i could easily write a fake one. | ||
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hejakev
Sweden518 Posts
4 people on my facebook friends are named Kevin Johnson. 3 people I went to high school with are named Kevin Johnson. 2 people named Kevin Johnson played professional sports in the US. and 1 Kevin Johnson looks just like me but we're arch enemies. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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CraftyStars
Canada47 Posts
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InTheFade
United States1721 Posts
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
For example Billy Pumpkin (I got bored) = Billy P. And I voted not change my behavior, Christopher isn't such a noncommon name, and my last name, ehhh... it's not that weird. I mean it's asian so how diverse can it be. | ||
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geno
United States1404 Posts
So, if it were implemented here, I'd probably not post and just browse, so long as the site continued to retain its relevance with the SC scenes. If that began to fade as well, I'd probably eventually give it up altogether | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
On July 10 2010 09:21 TriniMasta[wD] wrote: Blizzard should just do first name and last name initial. For example Billy Pumpkin (I got bored) = Billy P. And I voted not change my behavior, Christopher isn't such a noncommon name, and my last name, ehhh... it's not that weird. I mean it's asian so how diverse can it be. I like this idea, and i voted that i wouldn't change my behavior. I don't feel that it would personally effect how i post. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 09 2010 11:30 QueueQueue wrote: I wouldn't care. I've used my real name as a forum alias in other communities countless times. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
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Luvz
Norway356 Posts
alltho i voted not change my behavior. | ||
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AlwaysGG
Taiwan952 Posts
I only post occasionally | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
My name is Brendan Neal. I really don't give a fuck if you all know it. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
the reason why i can post such dumb embarrassing stuff is because i dont know you guys in real life lol *edit* btw, fuck you brendan (poster above) =D! | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Dont look for me plz, I dont want to be raped.....Unless your a women After the Manifisto7 incident i kinda fear the power of TL | ||
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Champi
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Aikin
Austria532 Posts
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MindRush
Romania916 Posts
if people oblige me to reveal my true identity, then it's over with our relationship that's how i think | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17255 Posts
I wouldn't change my behaviour. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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uberdeluxe
Canada306 Posts
P.S. I'm Ryan Gillespie!! | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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Groslouser
France337 Posts
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Lucid90
Canada340 Posts
I don't like the idea. | ||
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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bconSaberRider
Germany47 Posts
ppl are nice here - only a few haters *^^* | ||
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kaleidoscope
Singapore2887 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
As for using real name for forums and such, I dont think is too much of a big deal (except for the whole privacy violation). In terms of gaming though I think it could lead to RL griefing if you get that odd psychotic person who you pissed off that happens to live locally. Of course thats the worst case scenario but these days I dont think its beyond the realm of possibility.. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
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Runsta
United States161 Posts
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
On July 09 2010 12:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: everyone knows my name anyways lol First name in last name control? | ||
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xenom00t
United States162 Posts
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
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SneakPeek
Philippines162 Posts
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On July 11 2010 09:43 flamewheel wrote: Hey guys who voted "Not post and browse TL only" you realize that there would be nothing to read >.> hmmm... I think this would affect the SC2 forum the most. And its utter crap. So the crap would dissapear.. OMG! REAL ID FOR TL PLZ! | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3361 Posts
The main difference with Blizzard s forum is TL acxtually has good mods.... But it would be a little problem to know who posted what...a nickname is easier to remember than a full name | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
I am indifferent and would not change my posting behaviour. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
I wouldn't come anymore. Is the concept of private life losing any meaning nowadays? Why on earth would I want people I know irl to be able to know what I write on a gaming website? I laughed out loud when I learnt that bnet forum would be real id from now on. I mean, seriously. | ||
thedeadhaji
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On July 10 2010 09:01 InTheFade wrote: Yea, I don't understand this pool. The vast majority of the internet registers to everywhere using fake names and it's technologically impossible to identify people over the internet.Half of us would just re-register with fake names anyway... My real name is goofy, too. I don't wanna get teased again T_T Forcing "real" id's would just mangle people's id choices and wouldn't make anything any more "real". Personally I've always used my real name as an ID. But others don't and there's no way to confirm either. So it makes no difference. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Seriously, not even Sweds, Germans or Norwegians can pronounce my name correctly. It wouldnt be good, I enjoy the anymous situation here. And why would you want people with real names anyways... It would create confusion since alot probally has the same name on the forum. If you are too lazy to deal with the people trying their best fucking TL up, I suggest being more rash. Please dont make me change my race to zerg and be a lurker foreverever. | ||
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Chalaza
Canada46 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
I think making people accountable on the internet is a difficult task, I wonder if we should do it by offending them? I understand the idea behind it though. | ||
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ejac
United States1195 Posts
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On July 09 2010 11:03 Dromar wrote: But TL and Blizz forums are completely different. TL actually contributes to the Starcraft community. ZING! | ||
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
I'm sure most people could go through their own posting history and find at least a few posts and say "Oh wow, definitely wouldn't have posted that under my real name" | ||
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
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moon`
United States372 Posts
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
"But Blizz knows more about the game since they created it." Rimshot? | ||
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
On July 09 2010 13:51 Chrispy wrote: My real name is Chris Brown so yeah, good luck finding me on Google. I share my name with an actor. Too bad "Nathan Watt" is a terrible actor and made it nowhere haha. Edit: Clearly I care a whole bunch about who gets my name on the internet. Voted "Not change my behavior" | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
Also it's pretty easy to find me with my name. The only guy on the internet with my name is some middle aged French sculptor... | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
from what ive gathered my name "brees" would be replaced with my real name...? if so that would be bad. my lastname is unique, only one with it in the world | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
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Odinsphere
United States57 Posts
On July 09 2010 12:44 hoborg wrote: Team Liquid is one of the top google results for a noticeable portion of the stuff I type into google, even completely unrelated stuff to SC. When some employer googles my name, I don't want the first result to be me talking casually about a videogame, even if I do so respectfully and in a non-trolling manner. But there's no option for "Circumvent the system to use a fake name" which is what I would actually do. You have a good point. But what if you could use a different name? Anytime someone asks me for my name and I don't know who they are(telemarketers etc...), I tell them my name is Joe Blow from Idaho. lol | ||
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poutipou
Canada30 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
On July 09 2010 12:44 hoborg wrote: Team Liquid is one of the top google results for a noticeable portion of the stuff I type into google, even completely unrelated stuff to SC. When some employer googles my name, I don't want the first result to be me talking casually about a videogame, even if I do so respectfully and in a non-trolling manner. Exactly. Plus religious / political view (or you can supress general forum straight away) and anybody can know way too many things about you straight away. Plus it does happen that a thread turns badly, real ID or not. And maybe people don't want everybody they know to google their name anf find out what they have been saying when they were getting trolled / pissed off etc... Internet is already killing what remains of our privacy. I will basically never ever, ever, use a real ID forum. | ||
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matthewfoulkes
United Kingdom246 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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Taniard
United States114 Posts
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Kim_Hyun_Han
706 Posts
i couldnt vote anything but "Not change my behavior" | ||
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EpicProblematic
United States5 Posts
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