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shinjin
Profile Joined January 2010
United States398 Posts
May 25 2010 04:43 GMT
#541
i will ignore the effort loss.
give it one more try because the best things in life dont come free.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 05:45:02
May 25 2010 05:44 GMT
#542
On May 25 2010 13:02 nttea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 09:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
On May 25 2010 08:55 MuffinDude wrote:
Jaedong just because jaedong never sucked at a final..

JD lost 0-3 to Forgg in the MSL Finals...

i think jaedong played pretty good those games though! but then again so did flash in this final, AT least 2/5 games ^_^ it's quite hard to judge whether the loss was bad luck on calculated risks or mistakes in decisions or micro.

First two games weren't flash bonjwa level imo, which is what makes me vote for jaedong over flash. He played so well then just ends up sucking so much.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 25 2010 08:16 GMT
#543
I... Can't vote in this poll. I have more anti-fan in me for which ever one is doing better. So if Flash is doing better, I'd like Jaedong more, and visa versa...
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 25 2010 09:39 GMT
#544
This thread is so fun to follow. I would like it to remain for a while after the MSL finals just to see the explotion in either direction from the "bandwagoners"...
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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
May 25 2010 11:18 GMT
#545
In Flash we trust.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
May 25 2010 11:29 GMT
#546
flaaaaaaaash!
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
May 25 2010 11:39 GMT
#547
i'm kind of old school and jaedong was at his peak when i was watching lots of sc so JAEDONG!!!
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 25 2010 12:35 GMT
#548
On May 25 2010 09:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 08:55 MuffinDude wrote:
Jaedong just because jaedong never sucked at a final..

JD lost 0-3 to Forgg in the MSL Finals...


you could argue that he won that final as well, since he won 2 out of the 3 games they played. the first 2 went exactly as planned with both of them going to forgg. he made a mistake his 3rd game by not taking it. we all know he would've won the next 2 had he not messed up on the 3rd set.
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naneri
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Kyrgyzstan165 Posts
May 25 2010 13:05 GMT
#549
you could argue that he won that final as well, since he won 2 out of the 3 games they played. the first 2 went exactly as planned with both of them going to forgg. he made a mistake his 3rd game by not taking it. we all know he would've won the next 2 had he not messed up on the 3rd set.


LOL
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2010 15:46 GMT
#550
With Arena MSL's map pool, it was unbelievable Jaedong survived past the second minute in every game.
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asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
May 25 2010 17:18 GMT
#551
Arena MSL's maps were abysmal for zergs. It's quite amazing Jaedong managed to make it into the finals. Since then, we've seen Jaedong pull off some new and creative builds to overcome the map imbalances. His play has evolved and become smarter since then.

Look at the NATE MSL's map pool...every single map in that pool favored Terran strongly over zerg and yet Jaedong prevailed over Flash 3-1. There's no doubt Jaedong can do it again, especially considering Flash's OSL defeat and Jaedong's current form.
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Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
May 25 2010 19:02 GMT
#552
Jaedong and his golden mouse says sup
Who let the dogs out?
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
May 25 2010 19:16 GMT
#553
Jaedong woot woot. seriously though, BO5 he's unstoppable. Flash has a large amount of focus, a large amount of drive, but jaedong is a killer in a Bo5, and with good reason - he focuses, and forces his units and the game to bend to his will.
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
May 25 2010 19:21 GMT
#554
I think Flash, he needs to incorporate some EFFORT into his play-style tho imo.
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David.NDY
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16 Posts
May 25 2010 19:23 GMT
#555
So hard to choose, but I'll go with Flash by a tiny margin. <3
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DarkOne
Profile Joined December 2009
Spain41 Posts
May 25 2010 19:25 GMT
#556
I've no doubt about this, Jaedongs playstyle is so much more entertaining than Flashs
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
May 25 2010 19:49 GMT
#557
On May 26 2010 00:46 Shikyo wrote:
With Arena MSL's map pool, it was unbelievable Jaedong survived past the second minute in every game.

zzzzZZZZzzzz. Hate it when people downplay ForGG's win over Jaedong. The only terrible map was Tiamat. Othello and Collo were both perfectly playable for someone like Jaedong. He just got outplayed.

Collo's TvZ stats are pretty misleading when you have a bunch of games like Skyhigh > Zerg.com, Iris > Terror, and no names like roro[white] > zergjoaa. And Othello isn't as terrible as the stats imply.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 21:09:43
May 25 2010 21:07 GMT
#558
gotta bet the bank on the donger

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2010 21:33 GMT
#559
On May 26 2010 04 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              26 2010 04      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:49 Vasoline73 wrote:
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On May 26 2010 00:46 Shikyo wrote:
With Arena MSL's map pool, it was unbelievable Jaedong survived past the second minute in every game.

zzzzZZZZzzzz. Hate it when people downplay ForGG's win over Jaedong. The only terrible map was Tiamat. Othello and Collo were both perfectly playable for someone like Jaedong. He just got outplayed.

Collo's TvZ stats are pretty misleading when you have a bunch of games like Skyhigh > Zerg.com, Iris > Terror, and no names like roro[white] > zergjoaa. And Othello isn't as terrible as the stats imply.

Athena was the final map in the map pool. Every map played was over 60% TvZ, with Tiamat being 100%. Perfectly playable sure, but not winnable vs anyone decent. Also, Othello was absolutely awful for ZvT, as was Colosseum one. Not to mention Tiamat... yeah.

I'm not downplaying ForGG's victory, just saying that it's amazing JD managed to live past the 2 minute mark in every game on those maps, truly a testament to his skill.
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
May 25 2010 22:22 GMT
#560
On May 26 2010 04:49 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 00:46 Shikyo wrote:
With Arena MSL's map pool, it was unbelievable Jaedong survived past the second minute in every game.

zzzzZZZZzzzz. Hate it when people downplay ForGG's win over Jaedong. The only terrible map was Tiamat. Othello and Collo were both perfectly playable for someone like Jaedong. He just got outplayed.

Collo's TvZ stats are pretty misleading when you have a bunch of games like Skyhigh > Zerg.com, Iris > Terror, and no names like roro[white] > zergjoaa. And Othello isn't as terrible as the stats imply.


I'm amazed a single zerg was able to win on Colosseum 1 vs Terran.
Othello isn't "terrible" but it's at least as bad as Odd-Eye, and Odd-Eye is pretty terran favored.


I don't disagree that he got outplayed, but you can't say that the maps didn't favour ForGG massivly.
Also, you should take into account that ForGG was Jaedong team mate at the time and was 100% prepared for anything Jaedong could do.

You can't say that Jaedong sucks because he got 3-0'd by ForGG when you consider the circumstances..
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