• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:28
CEST 09:28
KST 16:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20254Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202576RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18
Community News
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced20BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time I offer completely free coaching services Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 What tournaments are world championships?
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 WardiTV Mondays FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL Dewalt's Show Matches in China
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 636 users

The next Protoss progamer should be.. - Page 3

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
February 16 2004 01:49 GMT
#41
Always irritating to se the endless flaming about who is good or not.
Ohwell, if SaFT goes to korea he can at least make some money beating the other guys at poker. I might add that I have only heard that he is a good poker player and havent seen much proof. That goes to all BW/poker players.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
B.GoD_AnGRY
Profile Joined January 2003
Chile334 Posts
February 16 2004 02:57 GMT
#42
fisheye
MonkeyFace
Profile Joined February 2004
Finland12 Posts
February 16 2004 03:26 GMT
#43
pokerwillie^^
m00n niinq pr0
NewbieMcNasty
Profile Joined December 2002
United States328 Posts
February 16 2004 04:21 GMT
#44
Rekrul

I also wish NTT followed through with his return to BW as a toss player.
yep
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
February 16 2004 07:00 GMT
#45
SMUFT !!!

and

SAFT !!!
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
VerSerK
Profile Joined August 2003
Argentina326 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-16 07:29:11
February 16 2004 07:26 GMT
#46
I dunno what is keir doing here, he's a very chobo player with z and lot more with p, i dont understand what is he doing here, only for his performance in wcg ?, i think a lot of u have a wrong conception of who is good or chobo in the game, saft was and amazing player, Fisheye (i dont like him) but he games pretty good also, not at the lvl of saft at his best moment, but is amazing too, i cant belive that 80 ppl vote for keir, and only 50 for sys, its amazing, or even zelotito, willet i truly havent seen more than 1 or 2 reps of him, so i cant give my opinion about him.


EDIT: If i have to choose a non protoss player, or a player i will choose without doubt Blackman, he is the european who deserve more to go pro in korea, if not the onlyone)
To much GosunesS
BinGBonG[gamei]
Profile Joined May 2003
Netherlands514 Posts
February 16 2004 17:38 GMT
#47
make a pol whit gamers who stil play bw? T.T
Smoke weed everyday ~-_-~
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 16 2004 20:35 GMT
#48
In the end success matters, and expirience. Fisheye has the most of all european gamers. Except Elky.

And if u think Saft is better, u even may be right. But could he do as good as Fisheye in important tournaments ?
DarkFenix
Profile Joined July 2003
217 Posts
February 16 2004 23:57 GMT
#49
Smuft?
SW)Sleep
Profile Joined February 2004
3 Posts
February 17 2004 02:13 GMT
#50
well it doesnt specify nonkorean so id say DaezanG[GnH]
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-17 09:57:24
February 17 2004 09:56 GMT
#51
Smuft and nazgul were ruled out as they have already been there before.

PJ wasn't in as his not pure P (i fucked up with kier and i thought he was toss)

On February 17 2004 11:13 SW)Sleep wrote:
well it doesnt specify nonkorean so id say DaezanG[GnH]

it doesn't specify you have a small brain, but theres just some things ppl take for granted.
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
February 17 2004 11:57 GMT
#52
On February 17 2004 18:56 Legionnaire wrote:
Smuft and nazgul were ruled out as they have already been there before.



ok in that case........

SAFT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

my 2 cents are on him beating the s**t out of anyone who dares stand in his way to SOUTH KOREA !!!!!!!!!!
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
February 18 2004 18:40 GMT
#53
ZeloTITO.
val0s
Profile Joined August 2003
Germany13 Posts
February 19 2004 01:38 GMT
#54
fisheye of course
Sullyesztomester
Profile Joined November 2003
Hungary30 Posts
February 19 2004 08:31 GMT
#55
Fisheye imo.He had a silver medal on the latest WCG.
MaGnIfIcA
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway2312 Posts
February 19 2004 15:06 GMT
#56
If saft gets back to the game he will beat the shit out of anyone
Wannabe sMB member yo, so spankable-.-v;;
Countdown
Profile Joined February 2004
1217 Posts
February 20 2004 02:37 GMT
#57
Willet definitely. I think Xellos would agree
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 20 2004 02:49 GMT
#58
Countdown is stupid. I think everyone would agree
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 20 2004 23:14 GMT
#59
On February 16 2004 04:21 IntoTheClan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2004 19:28 Jim wrote:
I would like Fisheye to go. Then everybody will see how much he sucks. Saft is probably the only one with a decent chance considering he was very good and therefore has some talent.


You are one of the most stupid persons i know. Winning 2 times against Grrrr.. in a important tournament, winning vs elky all says nothing, right ?

You really have no clue how good Fisheye is at tournaments. You think you know his skills by watching replays of him or playing him on wgtour or wdtour ?

What are i am talking.. Every good gamer knows how good FIsheye is/was.
But it's pretty ovisious, you are no good gamer.

SO its not your fault, that u dont know how good gamers are and no offense but compared to Saft, Fisheye won so much more and played so much better in important Tournaments. But Some people will never understand, that this is it what counts. Or do you think Elky shames because he lost twice to Mondragon in a nation war ? I think he doesnt care. He is happy about his games in korea and is doing pretty good for an non korean when it counts.

Tell me what has Saft won ? Tell me ? And dont come with games vs boxer or other good players. Nearly every top european player had games vs big names on west or gamei and won some of them..


Hm he beat kimwanchul in game-q at least o_O
And since he was in game-q, that is an accomplishment! Not saying fisheye isn't rather good, just mentioning this ~__~
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 21 2004 02:32 GMT
#60
But fisheye succeded more..
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft766
Nina 247
ProTech57
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4141
Hyuk 4002
Larva 590
Backho 544
zelot 100
scan(afreeca) 68
sSak 47
IntoTheRainbow 9
Dota 2
XcaliburYe263
League of Legends
JimRising 677
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K729
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor216
Other Games
summit1g7477
SortOf93
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1363
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH258
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2134
Upcoming Events
FEL
1h 32m
Krystianer vs sOs
SKillous vs ArT
MaNa vs Elazer
Spirit vs Gerald
Clem vs TBD
uThermal vs TBD
Reynor vs TBD
Lambo vs TBD
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6h 32m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
10h 32m
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV European League
2 days
Online Event
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
FEL Cracov 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.