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Liquid`RaSZi
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2766 Posts
February 15 2004 04:20 GMT
#21
willy! he beats a lot of pro's !
Fire and blood
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
February 15 2004 04:22 GMT
#22
sYs fo sho
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
February 15 2004 05:46 GMT
#23
On February 15 2004 10:34 ky[Z] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2004 09:19 mystror wrote:
saft best swedish player ever ?


then sweden must have really crappy protoss players ~

This saft guy played so bad in wcg,hahahhahaha


Before war3 was released, Saft and sven were the only one to have a 90% ratio on wgtour during several seasons when all the top european players were there.
He did bad in wcg but he was qualified in what was the toughest tournament behind Korea, and without using protoss at each game.
NegativeZero
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada45 Posts
February 15 2004 06:23 GMT
#24
Smuft
I Eat Ded Ppl
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
February 15 2004 06:24 GMT
#25
BoxeR.

-Mynock
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 15 2004 06:49 GMT
#26
Hey o_O For people saying saft is bad etc. He has hardly played for the last year, like only poker user --~ And the wcg swe quality was pretty low btw t.t Could have been a lot higher :O

Anyways, keir plays P and Z
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
HorsementalitY
Profile Joined August 2003
United States1159 Posts
February 15 2004 07:20 GMT
#27
i've heard of most of them cept the kier guy...and hes from chile? nice to see another south american player producin another good player other than HG. anyways what has keir done yet?? ie - who has he beaten??? is he in wgtour??
Women, Pot, Futbol and Music
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
February 15 2004 08:12 GMT
#28
fisheye i gotta agree is a great player. i luv sys's style though. whoever, i think many of the european players either wont go to korea or will be happy plaaying their guts out in wgt... as people said, fisheye rejected a pro position in korea and willet too, and they are the best in that bunch in my mind.
A firebat to your Zergling.
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
February 15 2004 09:12 GMT
#29
Well thats pretty stupid to put up saft, considering him not playing anymore...
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
February 15 2004 09:57 GMT
#30
oh i thought this was for any race, i just now noticed everyone on that list was toss rofl
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
February 15 2004 09:58 GMT
#31
but since its ONLY toss i think zelotito is IN right now...but sYs is also really damn good.
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
February 15 2004 10:28 GMT
#32
I would like Fisheye to go. Then everybody will see how much he sucks. Saft is probably the only one with a decent chance considering he was very good and therefore has some talent.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
February 15 2004 13:05 GMT
#33
WiLLEt!

and Saft stopped playing BW before WCG SWE, I heard. But then he just came back and owned the crap out of other swedes. Natural talent, no?
-.-
no1important
Profile Joined December 2002
557 Posts
February 15 2004 17:43 GMT
#34
PJ for PvT...altho maybe not for PvZ
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic931 Posts
February 15 2004 18:48 GMT
#35
Fisheye dont play BW any more he switched to W3, Keir is noob especially with Protoss, sYs retired because of school, Saft or Draco arent playing as well.
gg no re thX
never too old for starcraft :)
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 15 2004 19:21 GMT
#36
On February 15 2004 19:28 Jim wrote:
I would like Fisheye to go. Then everybody will see how much he sucks. Saft is probably the only one with a decent chance considering he was very good and therefore has some talent.


You are one of the most stupid persons i know. Winning 2 times against Grrrr.. in a important tournament, winning vs elky all says nothing, right ?

You really have no clue how good Fisheye is at tournaments. You think you know his skills by watching replays of him or playing him on wgtour or wdtour ?

What are i am talking.. Every good gamer knows how good FIsheye is/was.
But it's pretty ovisious, you are no good gamer.

SO its not your fault, that u dont know how good gamers are and no offense but compared to Saft, Fisheye won so much more and played so much better in important Tournaments. But Some people will never understand, that this is it what counts. Or do you think Elky shames because he lost twice to Mondragon in a nation war ? I think he doesnt care. He is happy about his games in korea and is doing pretty good for an non korean when it counts.

Tell me what has Saft won ? Tell me ? And dont come with games vs boxer or other good players. Nearly every top european player had games vs big names on west or gamei and won some of them..
Liquid`Daaman
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1225 Posts
February 15 2004 20:53 GMT
#37
Saft has the best potential of these gamers from what I could tell. When he was playing alot.. so good!

Apparently none of you talking bad about Saft never played him.. :\
Comfortably Numb
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
February 15 2004 22:03 GMT
#38
saft was incredible when he played... but he's been inactive quite long just came back for wcg and beat everyone in swe qualifications ^^
aka StormtoSS
Zoom
Profile Joined January 2004
1111 Posts
February 15 2004 23:26 GMT
#39
i just got done watching a recent willet vs xellos replay, either xellos wasnt trying or willet was owning, pretty sure it was the first one but willet convinced me he was at a very high skill level
There's no producing this perfect pose, hit the streets in the freshest clothes. Rip the stage, and bless the shows. Spit the flows and hit the do'
DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
February 16 2004 00:26 GMT
#40
wtf keir isn't a protoss player.. he just plays pvt -_-;
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