EPTPower Rank 01/31/2010 - Page 6
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On February 01 2010 04:29 Warrior Madness wrote: WTF!!! Did you not watch game two of the MSL finals? Flash might have demonstrated some of the best strategic thinking in TvZ ever. JD turtled hard, quickly got 4 gas. Flash knows exactly how to counter this. JD flies in his mutas into flash's base and sees that Flash has double star ports with two addons, and tricks JD into thinking, "Okay, he's gonna get vessels so I can inflict a lot of damage with my guardians." So JD gets guardians and what does flash do? He gets two WRAITHS instead of two vessels. If he hadn't done that then JD would've inflicted HEAVY damage with his guardians. Flash makes his two science vessels afterwards. JD is still in a pretty good position at this point, he's sunkened heavily and only had one weak spot. So flash makes two dropships afterwards. JD knows that the only way flash is coming back is with drops, so he has scourge and zerglings patrolling his ridges. So flash D-mats two dropships and drops at JD's only weak point. Flash's thinking was perfect, his timing was even better. If he had dropped 15 seconds later, JD would've had way too much shit and he would've defended that drop easily. this is not showing any intelligence or something from flash . just showing that he improved a lot . what he did was really good play , i loved that trust me . but it was nothing really brillant or something , just beautiful . flash has weakness , he is not perfect . flash fanboys sees him as a god or something ? flash is just a remake of iloveoov , i HATE that . nothing really special . special players are the ones with PERSONALITY . flash has NOTHING . special player is BOXER . special player is Nal_Ra . special player is jaedong . flash is nothing like them . nothing . just another monster kid . flash sucks in psychologic . flash sucks in creativity . flash sucks in intelligence . flash sucks in mental strenght . he is NOT a micro player like jaedong , bisu or boxer . he loves turtle . he is NOTHING . he just learnt starcraft copying progamers when he was 12 . he just SUCKS compare to jaedong . i must agree that he deserve the 1#spot for january , but dont tell me he is better than jaedong . FOR GOD SAKE , DONT TELL ME THAT CRAP . do you watch starcraft ? do you know starcraft ? NOBODY on earth has the right to say that flash is now better than jaedong . that would be just BLINDNESS . | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19347 Posts
 nice seeing him in PR again :D | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 01 2010 07:48 vaMpYr wrote: flash is just a remake of iloveoov , i HATE that . nothing really special . special players are the ones with PERSONALITY . flash has NOTHING . special player is BOXER . special player is Nal_Ra . special player is jaedong . flash is nothing like them . nothing . just another monster kid . flash sucks in psychologic . flash sucks in creativity . flash sucks in intelligence . flash sucks in mental strenght . he is NOT a micro player like jaedong , bisu or boxer . he loves turtle . he is NOTHING . he just learnt starcraft copying progamers when he was 12 . he just SUCKS compare to jaedong . i must agree that he deserve the 1#spot for january , but dont tell me he is better than jaedong . FOR GOD SAKE , DONT TELL ME THAT CRAP . do you watch starcraft ? do you know starcraft ? NOBODY on earth has the right to say that flash is now better than jaedong . that would be just BLINDNESS . You're an idiot. I mean you're a blatant one, so much so that you're pretty troll worthy. What the hell makes you the foremost expert on who does and who doesn't have a personality in the pro scene...who the hell are you to claim that Flash isn't one of the most brilliant Terran players to ever play the game? You basically claim he can't micro when Flash has the best MnM control in the WORLD. He has AMAZING micro. You know what? Stop posting, seriously. You claim someone that says that Flash is better than Jaedong is blind when you spout a bunch of crap that you have no clue about. | ||
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On February 01 2010 08:01 Jayme wrote: You're an idiot. I mean you're a blatant one, so much so that you're pretty troll worthy. What the hell makes you the foremost expert on who does and who doesn't have a personality in the pro scene...who the hell are you to claim that Flash isn't one of the most brilliant Terran players to ever play the game? You basically claim he can't micro when Flash has the best MnM control in the WORLD. He has AMAZING micro. You know what? Stop posting, seriously. You claim someone that says that Flash is better than Jaedong is blind when you spout a bunch of crap that you have no clue about. flash has NOT the best MnM micro in the world . flash is NOT one of the most brilliant terran player to ever play the game . he is just some REALLY talented kid . that NOT makes him the best . you are just blind because he is young and he is lovely because of that and blabla . WATCH MORE STARCRAFT . he is VERY good with a big army ( maybe the best terran ever in this ) , he has MONSTER macro ( jaedong has too by the way ) , he is a VERY good player for sure . but he is NOT the best . YOU JUST CANT TELL ME FLASH IS BETTER THAN JAEDONG FOR NOW . maybe in some months jaedong will fall down and flash will be even better , and you will tell me that again . but for now , you just CANT . STOP UNDERESTIMATE JAEDONG AND OVERESTIMATE FLASH . GET OBJECTIVITY PLEASE . and by the way , "flash is just a remake of iloveoov , i HATE that . nothing really special . special players are the ones with PERSONALITY . flash has NOTHING . special player is BOXER . special player is Nal_Ra . special player is jaedong . flash is nothing like them . nothing . just another monster kid ." this was my subjective and emotive moment , i never said it was the true , its my personnal opinion . | ||
pathy
Taiwan619 Posts
On February 01 2010 08:17 vaMpYr wrote: flash has NOT the best MnM micro in the world . flash is NOT one of the most brilliant terran player to ever play the game . he is just some REALLY talented kid . that NOT makes him the best . you are just blind because he is young and he is lovely because of that and blabla . WATCH MORE STARCRAFT . he is VERY good with a big army ( maybe the best terran ever in this ) , he has MONSTER macro ( jaedong has too by the way ) , he is a VERY good player for sure . but he is NOT the best . YOU JUST CANT TELL ME FLASH IS BETTER THAN JAEDONG FOR NOW . maybe in some months jaedong will fall down and flash will be even better , and you will tell me that again . but for now , you just CANT . STOP UNDERESTIMATE JAEDONG AND OVERESTIMATE FLASH . GET OBJECTIVITY PLEASE . and by the way , "flash is just a remake of iloveoov , i HATE that . nothing really special . special players are the ones with PERSONALITY . flash has NOTHING . special player is BOXER . special player is Nal_Ra . special player is jaedong . flash is nothing like them . nothing . just another monster kid ." this was my subjective and emotive moment , i never said it was the true , its my personnal opinion . lollllllll. what a fanboy -_-. Kal above Stork made me eye twitch but eh, it's ok cuz we all know who's the best toss | ||
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AlTheCake
Canada1071 Posts
Anyways, good PR. Just glad to see Really up there And lol @ the nerd rage in this thread | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
2-2 vs flash even taking out the power outage game where he was ahead far and away. The two games flash won were not by his own strength but because JD made a mistake. It would not have been surprising to see all of those games go to JD at all. So, how is it possible to say that flash is better then him? Cause flash can beat other players who are not as good? JD can beat them too. Lets not forget him destroying #6 Kal. Demolishing the #1 player and #6 player and finishing #2 does not make sense when the #1 player hasn't done the same against anybody in the top 10 power rankings..... | ||
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pathy
Taiwan619 Posts
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Phradamon
Romania191 Posts
I hate my fantasy team, i had  Kwanro last round when he played well but my anti-team consisting on EffOrt, Calm, RorO and  Sea (traded) drew my blood. Now i have FBH on anti...Thus being said i am sorry for EffOrt or  Violet not being in CNBC, but i am glad to see Movie, Shine, Bisu are out of hand. They were over hyped for months. I wonder what the hell fantasy and Best are in the CNBC since they lost alot and having Only a couple of good wins... | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On February 01 2010 08:17 vaMpYr wrote: flash has NOT the best MnM micro in the world . flash is NOT one of the most brilliant terran player to ever play the game . he is just some REALLY talented kid . that NOT makes him the best . you are just blind because he is young and he is lovely because of that and blabla . WATCH MORE STARCRAFT . he is VERY good with a big army ( maybe the best terran ever in this ) , he has MONSTER macro ( jaedong has too by the way ) , he is a VERY good player for sure . but he is NOT the best . YOU JUST CANT TELL ME FLASH IS BETTER THAN JAEDONG FOR NOW . maybe in some months jaedong will fall down and flash will be even better , and you will tell me that again . but for now , you just CANT . STOP UNDERESTIMATE JAEDONG AND OVERESTIMATE FLASH . GET OBJECTIVITY PLEASE . and by the way , "flash is just a remake of iloveoov , i HATE that . nothing really special . special players are the ones with PERSONALITY . flash has NOTHING . special player is BOXER . special player is Nal_Ra . special player is jaedong . flash is nothing like them . nothing . just another monster kid ." this was my subjective and emotive moment , i never said it was the true , its my personnal opinion . Flash has a personality, as seen by his dozens of translated interviews on this very site. Flash has creativity -- he has created and performed cheeses that put Boxer's to shame, he has revolutionized every Terran match up, and on this site specifically he is exalted as a player by the more intelligent analysts for "teaching [us] something new everytime he plays." This is not to say Jaedong is not creative. I have all the respect in the world for Jaedong, but Flash is the most pragmatically creative player in the game right now. I will be happy to cite every intelligent and creative thing Flash has done for the Terran race that I can think of, if you want, but the list would be long and arduous because Flash is THE standard of every lasting metagame shift in TvX for the last 2 years. | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
HiyA finally crack the power rank. He has been playing solid this season in proleague. You would think Oz would be well off with a solid secondary contributer to Jaedong, but the Protoss line up has been trash. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On February 01 2010 08:17 vaMpYr wrote: flash has NOT the best MnM micro in the world . flash is NOT one of the most brilliant terran player to ever play the game . he is just some REALLY talented kid . that NOT makes him the best . you are just blind because he is young and he is lovely because of that and blabla . WATCH MORE STARCRAFT . he is VERY good with a big army ( maybe the best terran ever in this ) , he has MONSTER macro ( jaedong has too by the way ) , he is a VERY good player for sure . but he is NOT the best . YOU JUST CANT TELL ME FLASH IS BETTER THAN JAEDONG FOR NOW . maybe in some months jaedong will fall down and flash will be even better , and you will tell me that again . but for now , you just CANT . STOP UNDERESTIMATE JAEDONG AND OVERESTIMATE FLASH . GET OBJECTIVITY PLEASE . and by the way , "flash is just a remake of iloveoov , i HATE that . nothing really special . special players are the ones with PERSONALITY . flash has NOTHING . special player is BOXER . special player is Nal_Ra . special player is jaedong . flash is nothing like them . nothing . just another monster kid ." this was my subjective and emotive moment , i never said it was the true , its my personnal opinion . Can you mention one terran player that has better MnM micro than Flash, that is more creative, that is just simply better than Flash? And just a hint: Jaedong plays Zerg. If you can't then I have to conclude that you're either idiot or troll or both... | ||
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UnderWorld_Dream
Canada219 Posts
for my part, i admire both Flash and JD, i dont care who is the best as long as they teach me something and entertain me when they play. Whoa i wouldnt be writing PR that seems so hard to rank those players correctly, | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
On February 01 2010 07:48 vaMpYr wrote: this is not showing any intelligence or something from flash . just showing that he improved a lot . what he did was really good play , i loved that trust me . but it was nothing really brillant or something , just beautiful . flash has weakness , he is not perfect . flash fanboys sees him as a god or something ? flash is just a remake of iloveoov , i HATE that . nothing really special . special players are the ones with PERSONALITY . flash has NOTHING . special player is BOXER . special player is Nal_Ra . special player is jaedong . flash is nothing like them . nothing . just another monster kid . flash sucks in psychologic . flash sucks in creativity . flash sucks in intelligence . flash sucks in mental strenght . he is NOT a micro player like jaedong , bisu or boxer . he loves turtle . he is NOTHING . he just learnt starcraft copying progamers when he was 12 . he just SUCKS compare to jaedong . i must agree that he deserve the 1#spot for january , but dont tell me he is better than jaedong . FOR GOD SAKE , DONT TELL ME THAT CRAP . do you watch starcraft ? do you know starcraft ? NOBODY on earth has the right to say that flash is now better than jaedong . that would be just BLINDNESS . Standard capitalization would do wonders for your credibility | ||
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Redshirt
434 Posts
On February 01 2010 08:34 dogabutila wrote: There is just no way that flash should be over JD. JD destroyed flash in the finals. Game 1 was simple. Game 2 was wtf greater spire, otherwise he wins easily. G3 he destroyed flash. G4 he destroyed flash. WL he outplays flash and doesnt research consume. Why are these justifications for anything? The better player ALWAYS wins and it just happened that Flash won his games in Winner's League and that game on Ultimatum because at the end of the day Jaedong played worse (forgetting consume is a massive mistake and don't assume it isn't). Jaedong won the MSL finals and that simply means he was the better player that day but really they're more or less at the same level. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On February 01 2010 10:24 Redshirt wrote: Why are these justifications for anything? The better player ALWAYS wins and it just happened that Flash won his games in Winner's League and that game on Ultimatum because at the end of the day Jaedong played worse (forgetting consume is a massive mistake and don't assume it isn't). Jaedong won the MSL finals and that simply means he was the better player that day but really they're more or less at the same level. Not to mention, there's no way anybody can look at G3 subjectively and say flash got destroyed when, despite the colossal failure that was the power outage, it was a fantastic game. | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
On February 01 2010 10:24 Redshirt wrote: Why are these justifications for anything? The better player ALWAYS wins and it just happened that Flash won his games in Winner's League and that game on Ultimatum because at the end of the day Jaedong played worse (forgetting consume is a massive mistake and don't assume it isn't). Jaedong won the MSL finals and that simply means he was the better player that day but really they're more or less at the same level. In a normal day, JD wins unless he makes a huge game ending mistake. How often do you think that happens? Flash drops a game against both calm and kwanro, who are ranked lower then Kal, and JD 3-0's Kal. I dont see any real justification in how flash can have a higher power rank then JD. | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
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