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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33706 Posts
December 22 2003 00:56 GMT
#1
Avid readers of our site may have noticed a post from POS_Legion a few weeks ago regarding the movements of progamers between teams. Legion quickly requested the deletion of his post, fearing he had revealed information that still wasn't supposed to be open to the public. Well, it turns out that what he said was pretty much correct, as a Koreans newspaper has confirmed some interesting things.


Source: An article from the Korean newspapper GoodDay, found on pgr21.com. It's not the most reliable newspaper in the world, and they're known to twist words very severely. But hey, it's still the closest there is to official confirmation.

First off, Dong Yang Orion has decided to stop sponsoring their team. Orion is one of the top teams, featuring Boxer, ILoveoov, and Kingdom.

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) won for their team (it doesn't mention over what period of time). Orion could only offer 350,000,000 won, so the negotiations failed.

Apparently, it won't be a big problem for Boxer's team. The article states that 3~4 companies that have been interested in making a progame team have already started to contact Boxer's team.


Second up, Nada and Yellow are leaving KTF. They receive huge amounts of money from KTF at the moment, Nada at 50,000,000 won for 6 months, and Yellow at a similar level. However, it looked like they are going to move to Toona SG. I doubt they would have left unless the money was right, so it will be interesting to see exactly how much Toona SG offered.

Asides from the money, we can speculate about the conditions in the KTF team. It is well known that they are forced to practice for long periods of time, and Oddysay was previously kicked out because he couldn't agree with those rules. Also, the recent incident involving the Jang brothers and the KTF manager indicates that the KTF manager may not be the nicest of men to work for.


So what is KTF's solution to losing their two top players (frankly speaking, yellow/nada were 95% of KTF)? Why, they will throw money at the problem -_-! Reach and Sync of the Hanbitsoft team will be moving to the KTF team. The article says that they have already joined the KTF team at their quarters to practice.



Such huge news! Even more rumors are going around in the back involving other players, and there are some very big names included. But until more proof comes up, that's only speculating.

Toona SG has just become the no.1 team in all of BW. They were already a fairly good team, GoodFriend in particular. With Nada and Yellow, they will dominate -_-!

KTF will still be a decent team, Hanbitsoft is now officially f*cked. If Junwi left Hanbit, it would leave them slightly below Samsung Khan.

Interesting!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 22 2003 01:06 GMT
#2
Wow Toona, what a mean mean, smart move -.-

-Mynock
NoSteratu
Profile Joined March 2003
Turkey770 Posts
December 22 2003 01:07 GMT
#3
wow
Fear..Fear attracts the Fearful...the Strong...the Weak..the Innocent...Fear..is my Ally
NoSteratu
Profile Joined March 2003
Turkey770 Posts
December 22 2003 01:12 GMT
#4
KTF has Nada and Yellow but they are 1-4
Toona Sg is 4-2 now and Nada, Yellow Toona will be great
Fear..Fear attracts the Fearful...the Strong...the Weak..the Innocent...Fear..is my Ally
.KOZI.
Profile Joined April 2003
Czech Republic61 Posts
December 22 2003 01:40 GMT
#5
can anyone write there complet member list of each team? thx
inax
Profile Joined October 2003
Poland11 Posts
December 22 2003 01:43 GMT
#6
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
December 22 2003 02:04 GMT
#7
my guess is ToonaSG will sell nada and yellow to a different team
toona definitly doesn't have enough money to pay nada and yellow
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
December 22 2003 02:28 GMT
#8
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


um,no
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 22 2003 02:37 GMT
#9
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


if that were so id drop out of school and devote the rest of my life to try and get into boxer's team
AUSSIESCUM
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Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
December 22 2003 02:45 GMT
#10
Ah so that's what happened to that thread, I recall using search to find it again and coming up with nothing:p
Seems progaming is growing at greater rates, with teams offering more and more money to the best players
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
December 22 2003 03:03 GMT
#11
i'm concerning who will be Junwi's next practise partner
Reach & Sync gone...
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
TomciO
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland414 Posts
December 22 2003 04:25 GMT
#12
Hanbit's situation isn't so bad because they still have Silent_Control.
shuttlespeed
Profile Joined April 2003
512 Posts
December 22 2003 04:33 GMT
#13
what about chojja going to KTF? is it true?
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
December 22 2003 04:48 GMT
#14
Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) won for their team (it doesn't mention over what period of time). Orion could only offer 350,000,000 won, so the negotiations failed.

420,000,000 is 350,000 USD. When divided by eight (the number of people on Orion) this equals 43,750 USD per year per member. This does not include any additional expenses that they might have to pay for. So 420,000,000 won seems perfectly reasonable. Shame Dong yang wouldn't pay.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
December 22 2003 04:50 GMT
#15
On December 22 2003 12:03 Emlary wrote:
i'm concerning who will be Junwi's next practise partner
Reach & Sync gone...


hanbit still have [oops]autumn(P), silent_control(T), and crystal[inca](z)

from all those wgt reps of crystal's zvz, i bet that's how junwi became so good at ZvZ ATM.
Macrophage
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany730 Posts
December 22 2003 04:51 GMT
#16
On December 22 2003 11:28 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2003 10:43 inax wrote:
it's so curved

Their initial contract ended last month, and they went into negotiations. Boxer's team requested a total of 420,000,000 (1200 won/1 dollar) -- I think it should be (1 won / 1200 dollars) ?


um,no


what inax meant should be 1 dollar / 1200 won ^^
wax meant 1 dollar =^ 1200 won

but damn, they get nice amounts of money, i mean 100k a year, not including prize money.. nada soon first pro gamer millionaire
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
December 22 2003 04:58 GMT
#17
lol? :D
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
December 22 2003 06:33 GMT
#18
<3 Leg for giving us the inside scoop :D

man, hanbit used to be the like the best too.. since they were the ones who sold starcraft(I think)
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
December 22 2003 06:40 GMT
#19
Wax + Legion gossip combo
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
December 22 2003 08:09 GMT
#20
Damn, what a sad day for KTF~
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