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Postaljester
Profile Joined December 2002
United States128 Posts
July 22 2009 16:33 GMT
#61
I dont know why TL has such a huge grudge against the protoss. whenever protoss wins everyone complains about maps, or race imbalances. but just a few months later when protoss losses its just because they played bad, no discussion of imbalances or possible map favoritism. zerg has an advantage over protoss, its not a giant advantage but its still there, and that is a big reason for this protoss cold streak.
If you cant do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 22 2009 16:36 GMT
#62
On July 23 2009 01:33 Postaljester wrote:
just a few months later when protoss losses its just because they played bad, no discussion of imbalances or possible map favoritism.

I don't think you read my article (or even its comments).

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AltaiR_
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)922 Posts
July 22 2009 17:17 GMT
#63
IOPS actually didnt have a toss quarterfinalist due to alchemist
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 22 2009 17:55 GMT
#64
On July 23 2009 02:17 AltaiR_ wrote:
IOPS actually didnt have a toss quarterfinalist due to alchemist

You're right sir! Fixed.
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checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
July 22 2009 18:37 GMT
#65
Fantasy ftw!!! Sorry canata but fantasy needs this =D
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 22 2009 19:20 GMT
#66
High Five. I like your write ups best.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
July 22 2009 20:21 GMT
#67
Nice writeup, I think Yarnc's got this one in the bag if he can avoid facing Jaedong in the finals. Of course he'll probably fall into a career-ending slump after he wins, but it would be worth it I guess.
BW forever || Thall
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 22 2009 20:32 GMT
#68
Cool write up, I totally agree with your predictions
SNARF HWAITING
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
July 22 2009 20:47 GMT
#69
*waiting for the fall*
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
GarethGWR
Profile Joined July 2009
United Kingdom6 Posts
July 22 2009 22:55 GMT
#70
I really hope Fantasy takes this OSL after his 2 2nd place finishes... but also I feel sorry for Canata as he's been playing quite well lately.
SKT T1 Superfan!
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 23 2009 00:20 GMT
#71
Don't hold me to this, but I have a feeling (T)Leta is going to fall victim to the teammate snipe. He goes 2 port wraith so frequently that I worry about his proficiency in a straight up game, and as we've seen in his game against Kwanro in this OSL and Luxury last MSL he can be very vulnerable to risky early game play and sneaky tech switches. I'm sure type-b has gone up against Leta's pre-prepared TvZ builds hundreds of times in practice, but as he hasn't been in a major best-of series in recent history, Leta has the disadvantage of not knowing exactly what type-b may throw at him.

One thing I still don't understand is that after all this time people still revere (T)Canata's TvT as "Top Class," when he hasn't been anywhere near a level needed to compete with the Flash and fantasy's for well over a year. Sure, he knows how to stretch a game out into a spectacular clusterfuck of tanks and bcs, but just look at the results - he isn't getting it done. fantasy is going to pulverize him, straight up.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
July 23 2009 00:39 GMT
#72
On July 23 2009 09:20 p4NDemik wrote:
Don't hold me to this, but I have a feeling (T)Leta is going to fall victim to the teammate snipe. He goes 2 port wraith so frequently that I worry about his proficiency in a straight up game, and as we've seen in his game against Kwanro in this OSL and Luxury last MSL he can be very vulnerable to risky early game play and sneaky tech switches. I'm sure type-b has gone up against Leta's pre-prepared TvZ builds hundreds of times in practice, but as he hasn't been in a major best-of series in recent history, Leta has the disadvantage of not knowing exactly what type-b may throw at him.

One thing I still don't understand is that after all this time people still revere (T)Canata's TvT as "Top Class," when he hasn't been anywhere near a level needed to compete with the Flash and fantasy's for well over a year. Sure, he knows how to stretch a game out into a spectacular clusterfuck of tanks and bcs, but just look at the results - he isn't getting it done. fantasy is going to pulverize him, straight up.


didnt leta go 2port wraith vs yanrc in the racewars thing and still win?
I like starcraft
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 02:07:52
July 23 2009 02:07 GMT
#73
Fantasy vs JD rematch should be the finals. Oh well =(

Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 23 2009 02:11 GMT
#74
On July 23 2009 09:20 p4NDemik wrote:
One thing I still don't understand is that after all this time people still revere (T)Canata's TvT as "Top Class," when he hasn't been anywhere near a level needed to compete with the Flash and fantasy's for well over a year. Sure, he knows how to stretch a game out into a spectacular clusterfuck of tanks and bcs, but just look at the results - he isn't getting it done. fantasy is going to pulverize him, straight up.

OK, let's look at the results. First off, trying to evaluate Canata's level of play by looking at games from last season is pretty pointless considering how much better he has been playing in this one. Canata now is almost a completely different player than Canata five months ago. So, beginning with this SC season (PL R4/5, Avalon MSL and qualifiers, Bacchus OSL and qualifiers): Canata is 6-5 in TvT — a pretty underwhelming mark, right? But hold up a second...check out his opponents. His losses are to Leta (in a really, really close game), Flash, Up once (in a series he won 2-1), and BaBy once in PL. His wins are sKyHigh twice (damn impressive considering sKyHigh's recent TvT feats), Up twice, and Piano twice. I've watched each of his games vs. Up and Piano, and they were all very solid wins. His most recent TvTs, in the MSL Ro16, were almost slaughters. The kid can play this matchup. All it takes is one watch of his OSL Ro16 game against Leta to realize that the statement "he hasn't been anywhere near a level needed to compete with Flash and Fantasy for over a year" is complete baloney.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 02:24:41
July 23 2009 02:24 GMT
#75
He's a mid-level TvTer right now imo, and his recent record reflects it. We can cherry pick games for any player out there and make their matchups seem stronger for the case of argument. But really, he's right there with (T)Iris, (T)go.go, (T)Hwasin, et al. fantasy is S-Class, little doubt about that. Canata might take the series to 1-2, just seeing as it's a teammate match, but I don't see him winning it, and odds are he'll lose 0-2.
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 23 2009 02:28 GMT
#76
So long as the finals is not a mirror matchup I'll be happy. The last thing I want is a 1 hour long final for a ZvZ or a 5 hour (w/o commercials) TvT fest, but that's just my opinion.

Either a Leta v. Jaedong (Though there is concern for Leta's ability to play straight up) or Type-B v. Fantasy Final (Royal Road? Can he do it!?) will be interesting for me.
SteelString
Profile Joined July 2006
446 Posts
July 23 2009 02:51 GMT
#77
On July 23 2009 11:28 Apex wrote:
So long as the finals is not a mirror matchup I'll be happy. The last thing I want is a 1 hour long final for a ZvZ or a 5 hour (w/o commercials) TvT fest, but that's just my opinion.

Either a Leta v. Jaedong (Though there is concern for Leta's ability to play straight up) or Type-B v. Fantasy Final (Royal Road? Can he do it!?) will be interesting for me.

I'd love to see an hour long ZvZ. Five of em in a row, each epic, with queens and defilers and maybe even the odd lurker or two.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 23 2009 03:35 GMT
#78
No, no you don't, not when 45 minutes of each game is just each player pussyfooting around doing nothing while massing units, which is usually what a long ZvZ consists of. I'd like a long game or two in that hypothetical situation, but 5 would just be stupid, as well as improbable.
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HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
July 23 2009 06:55 GMT
#79
Great article! I Have a strong feeling Yarnc might take this, his ZvT is beastly he is 15-2 (!!) this year, and with luck Terran is all he will face. At any rate this is probably the only chance he will ever get to tie his twin.
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
July 23 2009 09:09 GMT
#80
I attribute lack of P success to the multitude of Z>P maps recently, look at the stats for the PL maps from the last round and you will see they are all Z>P except for Outsider and Destination. Too many maps that allow for easy drops in the main (GG, Neo Medusa, HBR) that stop P from moving out while Z takes the map.
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