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Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 29 2008 01:36 GMT
#21
On July 29 2008 10:34 asel wrote:
why does the new ktf coach need a frostmourne copy in th ktf house :D ?


Psychological warfare of course! Underperform and you lose a limb, life of a pro starcrafter is hard
O_o
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
July 29 2008 01:42 GMT
#22
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 29 2008 01:45 GMT
#23
Basically the thesis is that if SKT1 just played straight up, they wouldn't have lost. Lame.

Congrats on your blue status Frozen.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
July 29 2008 01:56 GMT
#24
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ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
July 29 2008 01:56 GMT
#25
Best has never played on Othello before?
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/16_BeSt/games#tblt-96-1-default-0-othello

Yeah, he has.
Can you dig it?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 29 2008 02:02 GMT
#26
On July 29 2008 10:56 ScarFace wrote:
Best has never played on Othello before?
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/16_BeSt/games#tblt-96-1-default-0-othello

Yeah, he has.


Oh the article actually says he's played it ONCE and lost on it. I guess they are only counting proleague games. My mistake.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
July 29 2008 02:03 GMT
#27
That answers a lot of questions! Thank you OneOther :D
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
July 29 2008 02:14 GMT
#28
Go OGN, you gotta pwn.
The Prince of DroneS
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
July 29 2008 02:15 GMT
#29
Oh man this is sick. Thanks man!
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 02:17:13
July 29 2008 02:16 GMT
#30
On July 29 2008 10:56 Wasabi wrote:
Well, no one's outright saying that Midas would have won the ace match, it's just that it would have made more sense for him to be the ace.


Well, Frozen's translation says that they basically used Best as an Ace snipe (wtf, you don't need Best to snipe anybody) on Othello and failed. If they used midas (or Canata) versus Leta, a TvP beast would have not been able to take his game. That combined with if they used Best on Katrina (the PvP monster) they would have had the games not go to Ace. Even then, They could have used Bisu against lux and he would have had the benefit of more practice time, plus Midas would have been a threat (OGN basically took one look at the the lineups and said that Lux is playing against a protoss).

Edit: now the KTF coach is probably the worst in the league at starcraft, haha.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 02:32:37
July 29 2008 02:28 GMT
#31
On July 29 2008 11:16 thunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2008 10:56 Wasabi wrote:
Well, no one's outright saying that Midas would have won the ace match, it's just that it would have made more sense for him to be the ace.


Well, Frozen's translation says that they basically used Best as an Ace snipe (wtf, you don't need Best to snipe anybody) on Othello and failed. If they used midas (or Canata) versus Leta, a TvP beast would have not been able to take his game. That combined with if they used Best on Katrina (the PvP monster) they would have had the games not go to Ace. Even then, They could have used Bisu against lux and he would have had the benefit of more practice time, plus Midas would have been a threat (OGN basically took one look at the the lineups and said that Lux is playing against a protoss).

Edit: now the KTF coach is probably the worst in the league at starcraft, haha.


Yeah T1 tried to do too much imo. Shoulda just sent Midas on Othello + BeSt on Katrina for PvP.

But then again it was a gamble... just didn't work out very well.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 29 2008 02:32 GMT
#32
Ok whatever they said about that mind game confused me. And I thought they pre determine the players playing in each map, do they improv during the pl playoffs?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 02:35:14
July 29 2008 02:34 GMT
#33
On July 29 2008 11:32 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Ok whatever they said about that mind game confused me. And I thought they pre determine the players playing in each map, do they improv during the pl playoffs?

They pre determine + submit players on each map except the ace. Ace match player isn't OFFICIALLY determined, but most teams choose a player beforehand so he can practice...

What are you confused about?
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 29 2008 02:36 GMT
#34
hee~ hi smee.frozen [:
very nice write up and amazing insight :D
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Rambling.
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada314 Posts
July 29 2008 02:42 GMT
#35
The frostmourne is going to consume that mans soul...
An unfortunate person is one who tries to fart but shits instead
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
July 29 2008 02:48 GMT
#36
reading all the OGN strats make SKT's coach newb.

BUT..

FUCKING GOOD LUCK WITH KTF PLEASE.
If Flash is slumped he is to blame. Need more Nal_ra along with the other 2 Protoss apprentice for loss of Reach.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 02:57:02
July 29 2008 02:56 GMT
#37
Well I must say I'm confused, too. I as a terran player got the feeling that Othello favors terran over protoss in the long run and I mean favors as in unlikely to lose a single game if done correctly. On Othello this imbalance is a combination of several things, terran gets 3 gas pretty easily, can use tankdrops at several quite easily reachable locations, has pretty secure bases because of short distances, can stop counterplay very well because protoss doesn't have much space to attack from the sides. As long as terran is aware of what his opponent is doing he has much better chances in a macro-battle with the newly discovered strengths of terran like EMP and quick 3-3 or 3-2.
Having Midas play on that map would've made so much more sense, it was a horrible decision not to give him that spot. Bisu on Colosseum was alright. I don't see this as a mistake, I just think he was very unfortunate in that game. I even think he was the better choice because he was already kinda warmed up from his first game on that day.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 29 2008 03:00 GMT
#38
On July 29 2008 11:56 ForAdun wrote:
Well I must say I'm confused, too. I as a terran player got the feeling that Othello favors terran over protoss in the long run and I mean favors as in unlikely to lose a single game if done correctly. On Othello this imbalance is a combination of several things, terran gets 3 gas pretty easily, can use tankdrops at several quite easily reachable locations, has pretty secure bases because of short distances, can stop counterplay very well because protoss doesn't have much space to attack from the sides. As long as terran is aware of what his opponent is doing he has much better chances in a macro-battle with the newly discovered strengths of terran like EMP and quick 3-3 or 3-2.
Having Midas play on that map would've made so much more sense, it was a horrible decision not to give him that spot. Bisu on Colosseum was alright. I don't see this as a mistake, I just think he was very unfortunate in that game. I even think he was the better choice because he was already kinda warmed up from his first game on that day.


I guess they thought BeSt was good enough to snipe any of OGN's Terrans on a T favored Othello.

Note: OGN Terrans have always been infamous for having awful TvPs. Leta was 1-7 or something as well before winning like 3 in a row.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 29 2008 03:41 GMT
#39
Awesome post, and congrats Frozen.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
July 29 2008 03:48 GMT
#40


Cool news

Thanks.
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