• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:59
CEST 19:59
KST 02:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview3[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !1Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Do we have a pimpest plays list? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (Spoiler) Asl ro8 D winner interview BW General Discussion AI Question
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1698 users

Korean News Flash is Back! - Page 2

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 29 2008 01:36 GMT
#21
On July 29 2008 10:34 asel wrote:
why does the new ktf coach need a frostmourne copy in th ktf house :D ?


Psychological warfare of course! Underperform and you lose a limb, life of a pro starcrafter is hard
O_o
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
July 29 2008 01:42 GMT
#22
--- Nuked ---
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 29 2008 01:45 GMT
#23
Basically the thesis is that if SKT1 just played straight up, they wouldn't have lost. Lame.

Congrats on your blue status Frozen.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
July 29 2008 01:56 GMT
#24
--- Nuked ---
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
July 29 2008 01:56 GMT
#25
Best has never played on Othello before?
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/16_BeSt/games#tblt-96-1-default-0-othello

Yeah, he has.
Can you dig it?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 29 2008 02:02 GMT
#26
On July 29 2008 10:56 ScarFace wrote:
Best has never played on Othello before?
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/16_BeSt/games#tblt-96-1-default-0-othello

Yeah, he has.


Oh the article actually says he's played it ONCE and lost on it. I guess they are only counting proleague games. My mistake.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
July 29 2008 02:03 GMT
#27
That answers a lot of questions! Thank you OneOther :D
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
July 29 2008 02:14 GMT
#28
Go OGN, you gotta pwn.
The Prince of DroneS
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
July 29 2008 02:15 GMT
#29
Oh man this is sick. Thanks man!
Moderator
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 02:17:13
July 29 2008 02:16 GMT
#30
On July 29 2008 10:56 Wasabi wrote:
Well, no one's outright saying that Midas would have won the ace match, it's just that it would have made more sense for him to be the ace.


Well, Frozen's translation says that they basically used Best as an Ace snipe (wtf, you don't need Best to snipe anybody) on Othello and failed. If they used midas (or Canata) versus Leta, a TvP beast would have not been able to take his game. That combined with if they used Best on Katrina (the PvP monster) they would have had the games not go to Ace. Even then, They could have used Bisu against lux and he would have had the benefit of more practice time, plus Midas would have been a threat (OGN basically took one look at the the lineups and said that Lux is playing against a protoss).

Edit: now the KTF coach is probably the worst in the league at starcraft, haha.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 02:32:37
July 29 2008 02:28 GMT
#31
On July 29 2008 11:16 thunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2008 10:56 Wasabi wrote:
Well, no one's outright saying that Midas would have won the ace match, it's just that it would have made more sense for him to be the ace.


Well, Frozen's translation says that they basically used Best as an Ace snipe (wtf, you don't need Best to snipe anybody) on Othello and failed. If they used midas (or Canata) versus Leta, a TvP beast would have not been able to take his game. That combined with if they used Best on Katrina (the PvP monster) they would have had the games not go to Ace. Even then, They could have used Bisu against lux and he would have had the benefit of more practice time, plus Midas would have been a threat (OGN basically took one look at the the lineups and said that Lux is playing against a protoss).

Edit: now the KTF coach is probably the worst in the league at starcraft, haha.


Yeah T1 tried to do too much imo. Shoulda just sent Midas on Othello + BeSt on Katrina for PvP.

But then again it was a gamble... just didn't work out very well.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 29 2008 02:32 GMT
#32
Ok whatever they said about that mind game confused me. And I thought they pre determine the players playing in each map, do they improv during the pl playoffs?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 02:35:14
July 29 2008 02:34 GMT
#33
On July 29 2008 11:32 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Ok whatever they said about that mind game confused me. And I thought they pre determine the players playing in each map, do they improv during the pl playoffs?

They pre determine + submit players on each map except the ace. Ace match player isn't OFFICIALLY determined, but most teams choose a player beforehand so he can practice...

What are you confused about?
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 29 2008 02:36 GMT
#34
hee~ hi smee.frozen [:
very nice write up and amazing insight :D
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Rambling.
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada314 Posts
July 29 2008 02:42 GMT
#35
The frostmourne is going to consume that mans soul...
An unfortunate person is one who tries to fart but shits instead
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
July 29 2008 02:48 GMT
#36
reading all the OGN strats make SKT's coach newb.

BUT..

FUCKING GOOD LUCK WITH KTF PLEASE.
If Flash is slumped he is to blame. Need more Nal_ra along with the other 2 Protoss apprentice for loss of Reach.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 02:57:02
July 29 2008 02:56 GMT
#37
Well I must say I'm confused, too. I as a terran player got the feeling that Othello favors terran over protoss in the long run and I mean favors as in unlikely to lose a single game if done correctly. On Othello this imbalance is a combination of several things, terran gets 3 gas pretty easily, can use tankdrops at several quite easily reachable locations, has pretty secure bases because of short distances, can stop counterplay very well because protoss doesn't have much space to attack from the sides. As long as terran is aware of what his opponent is doing he has much better chances in a macro-battle with the newly discovered strengths of terran like EMP and quick 3-3 or 3-2.
Having Midas play on that map would've made so much more sense, it was a horrible decision not to give him that spot. Bisu on Colosseum was alright. I don't see this as a mistake, I just think he was very unfortunate in that game. I even think he was the better choice because he was already kinda warmed up from his first game on that day.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 29 2008 03:00 GMT
#38
On July 29 2008 11:56 ForAdun wrote:
Well I must say I'm confused, too. I as a terran player got the feeling that Othello favors terran over protoss in the long run and I mean favors as in unlikely to lose a single game if done correctly. On Othello this imbalance is a combination of several things, terran gets 3 gas pretty easily, can use tankdrops at several quite easily reachable locations, has pretty secure bases because of short distances, can stop counterplay very well because protoss doesn't have much space to attack from the sides. As long as terran is aware of what his opponent is doing he has much better chances in a macro-battle with the newly discovered strengths of terran like EMP and quick 3-3 or 3-2.
Having Midas play on that map would've made so much more sense, it was a horrible decision not to give him that spot. Bisu on Colosseum was alright. I don't see this as a mistake, I just think he was very unfortunate in that game. I even think he was the better choice because he was already kinda warmed up from his first game on that day.


I guess they thought BeSt was good enough to snipe any of OGN's Terrans on a T favored Othello.

Note: OGN Terrans have always been infamous for having awful TvPs. Leta was 1-7 or something as well before winning like 3 in a row.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 29 2008 03:41 GMT
#39
Awesome post, and congrats Frozen.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
July 29 2008 03:48 GMT
#40


Cool news

Thanks.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Reynor 439
mouzHeroMarine 261
Hui .229
BRAT_OK 75
MindelVK 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4044
Sea 1177
Soma 197
Light 169
Hyuk 136
ggaemo 59
sorry 57
Hyun 49
PianO 48
Sea.KH 47
[ Show more ]
Rock 22
Terrorterran 21
scan(afreeca) 15
Sacsri 13
IntoTheRainbow 12
Dota 2
Gorgc5734
qojqva2226
monkeys_forever322
Counter-Strike
fl0m2028
byalli824
adren_tv140
kRYSTAL_50
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 136
Liquid`Hasu32
Other Games
gofns5923
Grubby4547
FrodaN1360
Liquid`RaSZi1290
B2W.Neo984
Beastyqt808
ceh9565
420jenkins272
C9.Mang0179
QueenE98
Mew2King96
RotterdaM94
KnowMe79
Trikslyr51
ODPixel38
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2266
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 83
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV473
League of Legends
• imaqtpie1442
• TFBlade1120
Other Games
• Shiphtur288
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 1m
Escore
16h 1m
The PondCast
16h 1m
WardiTV Invitational
17h 1m
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
Big Brain Bouts
22h 1m
Fjant vs Bly
Serral vs Shameless
OSC
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 6h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 16h
RSL Revival
1d 16h
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
1d 17h
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 21h
BSL
2 days
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
BSL
3 days
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.