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GOMTV MSL Group A

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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 08 2008 04:57 GMT
#1
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The first day of MSL groups showcased a not so tantalizing line up of players. HoGil, with less than a 40% win rate TvZ, and Zero, without a single win over a Terran... ever, were thrown to the wolves facing Mind, the returning champ, and Sea, MBC’s proleague Jesus. It seemed a forgone conclusion, but we all tuned in anyway because we’re hardcore like that. On to the games.



[Group A] GomTV S4 MSL - 03 Jan, 2008
2008-01-03 (Thursday), 18:30


Results
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Mind < HoGiL
Sea > ZerO
Sea > HoGiL
Mind > ZerO
Mind > HoGiL

Sea and Mind Advance


Group A
To start off the festivities we saw Mind and HoGil battle on Katrina, in the only balanced matchup the map offers. The game started in a very typical manner, with HoGil playing a 3 hatch muta build and Mind taking his backyard expo early and bracing himself for harassment. HoGil threw down one more hatch before even attempting to secure a third gas and was able to catch half of Mind’s MnM in the middle of the map. Mind’s play seemed quite lame however, which culminated into a triple whammy of mistakes and unfortunate luck at the 12 minute mark. He suicided a string of MnM into a pair of stacked lurkers, lost a decisive battle as he pushed out to face the main Zerg army, and lost a full dropship to carefully placed scourge. From there HoGil enjoyed his safety and soon after filled the map with dark swarm. This didn’t look so much like a newcomer smashing the champ as it did a tired kid with newly raised expectations falling victim to your choice of “curses”.

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Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. Tsk, tsk, tsk.


The second game showcased the difference between a power house and a B level pro. Sea kept the Zerg gas count in check and expanded heavily himself. Zero was completely unable to gain control of the center of the map and threw wave after wave of undermanned ultraling armies until he ran out of gas.

After seeing the first two games I didn’t expect much of Sea vs HoGil... good god was I wrong! The beginning of the match was all HoGil. His muta harass was smooth as silk. He exploited Sea’s base design and picked off a ton of marines as he chipped away at the science facility being built at the bottom boarder of the Terran main. Sea lifted the SV to better position his MnM and was fortunate in that it hid the 4 medics supporting his troops. HoGil ran his mutas in for the kill and suffered huge losses, not realizing that the floating building had obscured the true make up of Sea’s defending force. Soon after, HoGil ran a terrifying Lurkling army into Sea’s natural and completely obliterated it. Sea’s troops were all dead, he had no tanks, he was down to only his main CC mining, and bunkers were flying up around his barracks in order to stop the swarm from swallowing his entire base.

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It’s the old 4 medics under a science facility trick! Should’ve known!


Sea displayed incredible poise as he built up his forces, expertly microed a tank at his ramp, and took back his natural. From there, the best comeback I’ve seen in months erupted in a blaze of multitasking and absolutely sick, sick, SICK, MnM micro. Sea’s first attack force walked through defending lurkers and lings like it was invincible. He managed to take down HoGil’s latest expansion and quickly push forward toward the Zerg main. He caught HoGil in a macro transition and as quickly as his own natural had fallen, the Zerg defenders were devastated.

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How the heck did he come back from this?


I couldn’t possibly do this game justice with a play by play. You simply must watch it.

After such a double take inducing action fest, it only seems poetic that the losers final was poor. Suffice to say, Mind may very well have set the record for most Ultralisks irradiated in one game, and Zero appropriately maintains his tag’s equivalent in wins over Terran players.

In the final tie-breaker match, Mind edged out HoGil, but didn’t look particularly spectacular doing it. His dropship use was pretty one dimensional and his management/sense seemed weak as he again clumsily suicided rallying units to lurkers hidden along his reinforcement line. Mind gets a pat on the back for his win against Savior in the last tournament, but it has become startlingly apparent that his TvZ is his weakest matchup. He won’t make it far in this tournament if he continues to play like this.

If you only watch one!
Match 3 – Winners
Sea vs HoGil
Watch this game and you’ll be sprinting to join FakeSteve on the Sea-bandwagon.




Watch the games for yourself!
Thank you yakii for linking <3

[Group A] GomTV S4 MSL - 03 Jan, 2008
2008-01-03 (Thursday), 18:30

Game 1
(T)Mind < Katrina > (Z)HoGiL

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Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4

GomTV



Game 2
(T)Sea < Blue Storm > (Z)ZerO

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Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4

GomTV



Game 3 - Winner's Match

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(T)Sea < Loki II > (Z)HoGiL




Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4

GomTV



Game 4 - Loser's Match

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(T)Mind < Loki II > (Z)ZerO




Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4

GomTV



Game 5 - Tiebreak Match

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(T)Mind < Zodiac > (Z)HoGiL




Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4 / Part 5

GomTV

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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
January 08 2008 05:07 GMT
#2
Thanks, I didn't watch any of the games earlier because I thought they'd be too one sided, but the Sea vs. Hogil one sounds sick, gonna watch now.
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
January 08 2008 05:10 GMT
#3
Yeah, I was also very unimpressed with Mind. Hogil performed far better.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
January 08 2008 05:33 GMT
#4
Sea vs hogil was really good.

mind's rine micro is pretty bad compared to pro standards. If he micros like that he should at least macro like oov or forgg -_-;;.
ils
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blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
January 08 2008 06:21 GMT
#5
After watching Sea vs Hogil, I'm thinking he should have read up on the marginal advantage.
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Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
January 08 2008 07:57 GMT
#6
On January 08 2008 15:21 blagoonga123 wrote:
After watching Sea vs Hogil, I'm thinking he should have read up on the marginal advantage.


i thought the EXACT same shit when he wasted all those fucking lurkers.

also "if you watch only one game, make it game 3 winners sea vs. hogil ?" no way, game 5 Mind potentialy losing his entrance into the MSL being the defending champ, and playing a group with the 31st and 32d seed, that HE PICKED himself, and going into a tiebreaker remach with the person he just lost to, in a really close long game!! i think game 5 > game 3

also, this group A vod isn't even up yet, but i hope you guys host all the groups soon!
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JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
January 08 2008 08:12 GMT
#7
lol what a good banner, nice read aswell
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4411 Posts
January 08 2008 08:23 GMT
#8
Sea for the title!
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 08 2008 12:43 GMT
#9
Nice read
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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-08 13:37:27
January 08 2008 13:35 GMT
#10
Great job on the reports, really good!

About the sea vs hogil game:

I don't think Sea was in such horrible disadvantage, he had his back-door expo up and a lot of barracks. So his comeback wasn't really spectacular, he simply moved out right after clearing that contain and destroyed everything on his way.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 08 2008 14:26 GMT
#11
Hogil just never made many drones against Sea. Although he was on 4 bases, he had nowhere close to 4 bases worth of drones. Hogil just spent all his larvae and money on an attack that killed Sea's frontyard expo, which ended up quickly replaced by the backyard expo with relatively little impact to be Terran economy. Then his macro timing at the end got himself killed himself. Hogil looked decent, I'll admit, but he was ultimately confused about what map he was playing on.
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
January 08 2008 16:14 GMT
#12
Yeah, I agree I don't think that game 3 was as spectacular as the OP let on. It was very good, but the report overstated the game.
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
January 08 2008 16:15 GMT
#13
Well actually if hogil didn't suicide like 10 lurkers trying to advance to Sea main he would have probably kept advantage and won =[
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2922 Posts
January 08 2008 17:44 GMT
#14
On January 09 2008 01:15 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well actually if hogil didn't suicide like 10 lurkers trying to advance to Sea main he would have probably kept advantage and won =[


so true
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
January 08 2008 21:30 GMT
#15
nice banner
Jusciax
Profile Joined August 2007
Lithuania588 Posts
January 08 2008 22:31 GMT
#16
Well i watched Sea vs Hogil game 3 just to see that sick m&m micro and i didnt see a single awesome marine micro whole game. Which part exactly was so spectacular? He kept losing and losing and losing marines to lurkers (and later to lurker+swarm) just because he was too slow to pull back.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
January 08 2008 23:01 GMT
#17
On January 08 2008 13:57 ManaBlue wrote:

To start off the festivities we saw Mind and HoGil battle on Katrina, in the only balanced matchup the map offers.


The mirror matchups are balanced (well, except for starting positions), making only 2/6 MU's imbalanced. Some days it seems like nobody likes katrina.
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ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
January 08 2008 23:03 GMT
#18
I haven't even watched the games yet but d/l'd them simply because of your intro. Please keep it up good work!
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 09 2008 00:14 GMT
#19
Haha, thanks ChoboCop.

On January 08 2008 15:21 blagoonga123 wrote:
After watching Sea vs Hogil, I'm thinking he should have read up on the marginal advantage.


Well said.
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