• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:37
CEST 18:37
KST 01:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris31Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
Aligulac - Europe takes the podium A Eulogy for the Six Pool Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Esports World Cup 2025 WardiTV Mondays RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups Flash On His 2010 "God" Form, Mind Games, vs JD No Rain in ASL20? Joined effort [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group F [ASL20] Ro24 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1151 users

GomTV3 MSL - Sept 22 - Group E

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
Normal
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-21 16:33:03
September 21 2007 16:20 GMT
#1
The season has official kicked off, with OSL finally gearing up, Proleague getting busy and MSL entering it's 4th group match.

[image loading]




Group E: Sept 22nd – 18:30 Korean
Game 1 – (Z)sAviOr vs (T)RuBy @ Python
Game 2 – (P)SangHo vs (T)fOrGG @ Zodiac
Winners @ Blue Storm
Losers @ Blue Storm
Final @ Loki II


The only name in here that REALLY matters is obviously the Maestro. The rest are fairly new faces, with the exception of (T)fOrGG who's played in an OSL previously. The main focus is if the Maestro still has IT. It will be a lie to say that many fans have been worrying with his recent performance. 1-2 vs (T)Iris at Daum OSL, 2-3 vs FBH at GomTV2 MSL, 1-2 vs (T)Hwasin at WCG, and 0-2 to start the Proleague.

Fortunately, his group no group of death (although it nearly was). Neither (T)fOrGG nor (T)RuBy have shown any special strength in TvZ. And as for (P)SangHo, as long he's not (P)Bisu it really doesn't matter.



[image loading]
sAviOr (Z) vs. Ruby (T)
[image loading]

@ Python


Despite his recent performance, it is far too early to really worry about (Z)sAviOr yet. A below-par (Z)sAviOr is still an above average progamer. And it will take much more than a few losses to top-tier players to really shake the Maestro. And as the map is Python, I believe it's safe to
put my money on (Z)sAviOr.



[image loading]
SangHo (P) vs. fOrGG (T)
[image loading]

@ Loki II


There is not too much known about (P)SangHo. His only impressive performance would probably defeating (T)Iris in the MSL qualifiers. Otherwise, the only one's he's beaten are (Z)oDin and (T)go.go... not exactly an achievement one would boast about. (T)fOrGG, however, has a little more to fall back on. Having already some major league experience in OSL, and known for a killer TvP (3-0 against (P)Bisu), many would probably put their finger on this one.

There is one thing to consider though. The map is Loki II, which is being known to be favored for Protoss because of it's carrier-friendly terrains.



Remaining Games

I'm sure many are betting on (Z)sAviOr coming out of this group without too much problems. The real question is who out of (P)SangHo, (T)fOrGG and (T)RuBy will make it. I personally will be rooting for SanHo, because we already have 4 terrans out of 6 players already qualified. And there's still plenty of more terrans to advance. The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
September 21 2007 16:23 GMT
#2
error in the title. Sept 22nd, not Sept 15th. If mod could fix, that would be great.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 21 2007 17:28 GMT
#3
I'm going to be pretty shocked if Savior doesn't make it through this group. I suppose I could see him losing to fOrGG, but he'd really have to snuff it up to not make it through the other two...
Q(-_-Q)
Profile Joined August 2007
United States348 Posts
September 21 2007 18:09 GMT
#4
Savior, fOrGG
SC2 = Alpha = End Balance Speculations?
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
September 21 2007 18:52 GMT
#5
predicting an upset for sangho
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
September 21 2007 19:53 GMT
#6
forgg looked fucking strong sometimes.. ^^
hatred outlives the hateful
Muell
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany89 Posts
September 21 2007 21:58 GMT
#7
easy group for savior
i "predict": #1 savior
rest: doesnt matter
best sc:bw player alive: IPXZerg aka sAviOr
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
September 21 2007 22:22 GMT
#8
On September 22 2007 01:20 Live2Win wrote:
The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.


Amen.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
vstar
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Korea (South)693 Posts
September 21 2007 22:26 GMT
#9
LMAO yes
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
September 21 2007 23:54 GMT
#10
On September 22 2007 01:20 Live2Win wrote:
The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.


hell yes. amen to that.
MarineHero
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada38 Posts
September 22 2007 00:01 GMT
#11
Go Savior but i dont know for which one to vote so i will vote for ermm ermm SangHo because he is Protoss xD
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 22 2007 01:51 GMT
#12
Ha!, nice write up L2W
Moderator<:3-/-<
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
September 22 2007 01:54 GMT
#13
And as the map is Python, I believe it's safe to
put my money on (Z)sAviOr.


Err, hasn't Python basically been a kiss of death (for reasons that are still unclear to most people) for Savior? Not that I don't think he's going to win, just thought it was interesting the way that was phrased.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7224 Posts
September 22 2007 02:31 GMT
#14
TLPD has Savior 1-6 total on python vs. T, on a 5 game losing streak?
日本語が分かりますか
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
September 22 2007 02:33 GMT
#15
I would not be surprised if fOrGG manages to pull a win again savior (his tvz is so-so but his macro is absolutely amazing) and Saviro takes the other spot. I'd like to see Sangho/Savior go through however, way too many terrans.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37027 Posts
September 22 2007 05:11 GMT
#16
Nah, as a T user I still vote that T must win no matter what. Can't go against sAviOr though, go maestro!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Cranefly
Profile Joined February 2007
Germany184 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-22 09:29:40
September 22 2007 09:28 GMT
#17
I personally will be rooting for SanHo, because we already have 4 terrans out of 6 players already qualified. And there's still plenty of more terrans to advance. The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.
that's true!
My sporting heroes are Lim Yo Hwan, Neil Robertson, Peter Gade and Henning Fritz
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
September 23 2007 00:52 GMT
#18
Well, Forgg and Savior got through. My predictions were right, another terran and the maestro.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 23 2007 05:54 GMT
#19
those were my predictions as well but i thought ForGg was gonna beat Sangho in the first match
w/e
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
September 23 2007 08:49 GMT
#20
i like the facebook style banner lawls ;D
Hates Fun🤔
aeronexus
Profile Joined June 2007
United States392 Posts
September 23 2007 12:05 GMT
#21
On September 22 2007 08:54 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2007 01:20 Live2Win wrote:
The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.


hell yes. amen to that.


lol I play terran and I agree
10 points!
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
September 24 2007 02:31 GMT
#22
+ Show Spoiler [results] +
(Z)sAviOr/(T)fOrGG adavance.

(Z)sAviOr > (T)RuBy
(P)BackHo > (T)fOrGG

(Z)sAviOr > (P)BackHo
(T)fOrGG > (T)RuBy

(T)fOrGG > (P)BackHo
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
September 26 2007 20:15 GMT
#23
sAviOr strikes back1!
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
September 27 2007 01:59 GMT
#24
Ruby is having too much fun in that pic.
Moonlight Shadow
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
September 28 2007 18:33 GMT
#25
i hate not having a constant internet connection; in less than a week, i feel like im so behind on the scene already
Moonlight Shadow
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 23m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech111
UpATreeSC 72
BRAT_OK 31
MindelVK 15
mouzHeroMarine 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31724
Calm 5868
Horang2 1383
Rain 1266
Bisu 1197
EffOrt 598
actioN 466
Larva 390
ggaemo 277
Hyuk 222
[ Show more ]
Mong 143
Soulkey 140
Snow 66
Sharp 65
JYJ59
Hyun 56
sas.Sziky 50
Killer 50
ToSsGirL 32
Shuttle 29
Aegong 27
ajuk12(nOOB) 26
HiyA 17
zelot 16
scan(afreeca) 14
soO 14
Free 14
Rock 14
Sacsri 12
Shine 11
Terrorterran 8
IntoTheRainbow 8
Beast 2
Dota 2
Gorgc6923
Dendi1397
syndereN432
Fuzer 236
XcaliburYe189
Counter-Strike
fl0m3890
olofmeister2632
flusha196
Other Games
hiko1068
FrodaN780
Lowko387
RotterdaM275
KnowMe242
Trikslyr77
QueenE48
markeloff34
kaitlyn2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV553
League of Legends
• TFBlade800
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 23m
The PondCast
17h 23m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
18h 23m
herO vs MaxPax
Clem vs Classic
Replay Cast
1d 7h
LiuLi Cup
1d 18h
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
1d 23h
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
2 days
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
Maestros of the Game
2 days
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 3
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.