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InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-04 13:24:31
September 04 2007 12:53 GMT
#81
On September 04 2007 13:21 azndsh wrote:
Didn't TerAtO also get axed from Sparkyz permanently? Pretty strict team, wonder who's next... Chalrenge?

(T)CrocuS!!!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33502 Posts
September 04 2007 13:24 GMT
#82
I'd tread carefully when covering this issue. There are so many conflicting accounts of what happened from various sources, no one can really be sure what is going on. All the Korean media is confused as hell, and most of the 'conclusions' that have been come to are fans doing guesswork and trying to find plausible explanations.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7298 Posts
September 04 2007 13:29 GMT
#83
On September 04 2007 22:24 Waxangel wrote:
I'd tread carefully when covering this issue. There are so many conflicting accounts of what happened from various sources, no one can really be sure what is going on. All the Korean media is confused as hell, and most of the 'conclusions' that have been come to are fans doing guesswork and trying to find plausible explanations.


even so, unless he purposely threw a game or something, I dont see how it would be alright with people if he was banned from progaming indefinately, thats bogus.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
September 04 2007 14:56 GMT
#84
So... lemme get this straight.

He's not allowed to leave OGN team, yet he'll never be able to join it.

I don't even understand.
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Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
September 04 2007 15:59 GMT
#85
Teamliquid should adopt him.

We already miss a great occasion with July.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
nullmind
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
1303 Posts
September 04 2007 16:11 GMT
#86
Basically they are not letting him join back OGN nor letting him be traded to other team. When the other team asked for trade, they come up with ridiculous number which conflicts the trade. Good friend of Casy, Byun Hyungtae aka Iris[GM] asked CJ to get him into the team even if it means, his own pay is cut and they attempted trade which failed. The OGN side are even RECOMMENDING Casy to join Air Force.

No matter what Casy did, they are trying to take him out of the league and that's not acceptable. BTW, for some that doesn't know, ACE team don't take just any players. He needs to be tested and be accepted to the team.
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
September 04 2007 16:51 GMT
#87
Sadist might be totally wrong because of interview bias, but either way Casy shouldn't be sent into space. Depending on how it was he should stay or leave. First option isn't available from what we see, second one, under rules of contracts and how proscene is being run means quitting. His fault or not, they shouldn't use their power to mess up his life. What would it hurt coach and others if he transferred. Now hes not on a team, not outside, can't stay and can't join other. Hes in space, or some kind of margin where normal relations with other people don't apply.
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
September 04 2007 16:52 GMT
#88
--- Nuked ---
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7298 Posts
September 04 2007 17:25 GMT
#89
On September 05 2007 01:51 Pafnucy wrote:
Sadist might be totally wrong because of interview bias, but either way Casy shouldn't be sent into space. Depending on how it was he should stay or leave. First option isn't available from what we see, second one, under rules of contracts and how proscene is being run means quitting. His fault or not, they shouldn't use their power to mess up his life. What would it hurt coach and others if he transferred. Now hes not on a team, not outside, can't stay and can't join other. Hes in space, or some kind of margin where normal relations with other people don't apply.


limbo?
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 04 2007 18:19 GMT
#90
wow that would blow >_< casy is an awesome tvt/tvz player who is fun to watch!
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
September 04 2007 21:05 GMT
#91
On September 05 2007 01:11 nullmind wrote:
Basically they are not letting him join back OGN nor letting him be traded to other team. When the other team asked for trade, they come up with ridiculous number which conflicts the trade. Good friend of Casy, Byun Hyungtae aka Iris[GM] asked CJ to get him into the team even if it means, his own pay is cut and they attempted trade which failed. The OGN side are even RECOMMENDING Casy to join Air Force.

No matter what Casy did, they are trying to take him out of the league and that's not acceptable. BTW, for some that doesn't know, ACE team don't take just any players. He needs to be tested and be accepted to the team.

OGN did not come up with ridiculous number. The story is false.
Iris did not ask Casy to get him into CJ. The story is false.
The OGN side did not recommend Casy to join ACE. Casy said that he will go there himself.

This is what happens when rumours go about
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sohee_pink
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Philippines447 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-04 21:32:45
September 04 2007 21:31 GMT
#92
On September 04 2007 23:56 Purind wrote:
So... lemme get this straight.

He's not allowed to leave OGN team, yet he'll never be able to join it.

I don't even understand.


It's like OGN imprisoned (T)Casy in hell, a punishment he certainly does not deserve. Whatever (T)Casy did, it should be something huge, and not something so small I can trip off a chair because of it. O.o
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
September 04 2007 21:45 GMT
#93
Casy probably got in a bitch fight with the coach.
I thought I typed some nasty things but it's been lost.

Anyways, I don't think partying or even overpartying is any reason to be exclusively discriminating towards a player.

His behavior had to have been pretty trashy, extremely trashy, to really justify OGN's reactions.

Coach is bitch!!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
September 04 2007 22:04 GMT
#94
Some of you should try to lead a team and see what happens if one of your team is allowed to party while the others have to train all day. Especially if that someone is supposed to be a champion and a rolemodel.

Why would other teams automatically sign a player that has caused trouble on his last team? What are you telling your team if you sign a player that didn't train/behave properly on his last team (even if you suspect the coach was partly to blame)?

But just like everyone here I have no clue who said what, and who did what, I just wanted to mention that leaders have to consider these things.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
September 04 2007 22:16 GMT
#95
I'm pretty sure if I was told I'm off the PL roster knowing I am one of the best 3 users on the team, I'd be a little pissed. Yeah, let's run people like Spear Shield or Leta over Casy -____-;;

Oddysay had previous conduct problems too on the Kor team ~_~.

I don't recall conduct problems on any other team cept Kor.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7298 Posts
September 04 2007 23:26 GMT
#96
On September 05 2007 07:04 humblegar wrote:
Some of you should try to lead a team and see what happens if one of your team is allowed to party while the others have to train all day. Especially if that someone is supposed to be a champion and a rolemodel.

Why would other teams automatically sign a player that has caused trouble on his last team? What are you telling your team if you sign a player that didn't train/behave properly on his last team (even if you suspect the coach was partly to blame)?

But just like everyone here I have no clue who said what, and who did what, I just wanted to mention that leaders have to consider these things.



even if that were the case, you can punish the player, but to punish them for their entire career is stupid.

He could have fined casy or something, or banned him from proleague for a month. Blackballing him from progaming and basically forcing him into joining the airforce is bad.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
September 05 2007 00:42 GMT
#97
i think casy and the coach need to have a 1v1 game on LT... winner stays on team, loser dies
kw31
Profile Joined April 2007
Hong Kong162 Posts
September 05 2007 01:00 GMT
#98
On September 05 2007 07:04 humblegar wrote:
Some of you should try to lead a team and see what happens if one of your team is allowed to party while the others have to train all day. Especially if that someone is supposed to be a champion and a rolemodel.

Why would other teams automatically sign a player that has caused trouble on his last team? What are you telling your team if you sign a player that didn't train/behave properly on his last team (even if you suspect the coach was partly to blame)?

But just like everyone here I have no clue who said what, and who did what, I just wanted to mention that leaders have to consider these things.


If he didn't act like a champion / rolemodel and made bad influences on the team, then why don't they just fire him or kick him off the team instead of preventing him from every playing a game again?

It's like you did something wrong at work, and your boss is keeping you from leaving the job or going to another company with little pay. No bad behaviour deserves this.
To 囧 or not to 囧
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 05 2007 01:53 GMT
#99
FUCK YOU OGN

FUCK YOU

GO CASY

GO GO GO

FUCK OGN
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Trev
Profile Joined January 2007
United States113 Posts
September 05 2007 02:34 GMT
#100
Poor Casy, It sounds like what they did was put all the blame on 1 person because he was already having issues with the team. The Coach should be removed from the team for such bm. The little get together they had I'm sure was to make sure the other players and coaches were on the same foot in dealing with Casy.

Fact of the matter is Casy you are great and keep your head up high. Things always work out sometimes not for the best but eventually they will work out. You are a great man, great gamer, etc. GL with AirForce and tell BOXER we all say Hello :D
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