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Nal_rA vs Bisu - MSL Semi-Final #1

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Manifesto7
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Osaka27177 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-09 21:42:05
February 09 2007 18:27 GMT
#1
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On thursday the first bo5 semi-final took place, with Bisu taking on rA in a rare bo5 pvp. For the devouts of Aiur, this was a bitter-sweet treat, seeing some great pvp action but knowing only would could move on to the finals.

You have two ways to play tonight:
A) I have uploaded the games as normal to Google Video, which you can watch here or download and watch at your leisure, or
B) Red_dragon has written a set of reports that is underneath each VOD.

Please make sure to leave him some feedback so that he can improve his writing for the next time




Red_Dragon intro...


We have two protoss players fighting for the finals. One is our beloved, and well proven Nal_rA, and second one is Bisu, a young promising player from MBC team. Which will win? Experience over Youth? The dreamer over Bruce Lee?

Overall rA and Bisu have met two times. Bisu took the game from rA in proleague, and rA revenged himself in this MSL. Now lets take a look at pvp stats for both players: (Please note, the stats are for MBC starleague only).

Bisu vs protoss 0-1 0%
Ra vs protoss 17-4 81%

It was very obvious who the favorite is

Game One: BlitzX



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

+ Show Spoiler +


Nal_rA vs Bisu @ Blitz

Both players, rA @11, and Bisu @ 1 started with a one gate, gas into core build. With his scouting probe Bisu managed to manner pylon Ra, and his zealot was on the way to the enemy base. Bisu did try to harass rA`s probes with the zealot and one probe, but he did not manage to kill even a single probe. Ra cleared threat and destroyed manner pylon with his dragoon. At this point Bisu warped citadel of adun, followed by a second gate and quick templar archives. His game plan was clear. Ra still had one gate as he warped nexus at his natural. Ra then warped a robo facility and second gate as Bisu's templar archives was almost done, signaling trouble for rA.

Dt`s were on the way, and rA had just started his observatory. With only 3 dragoons, it was clear that he would take big damage. Bisu sent one dt in rA`s main and the second attacked the natural expo. Ra took big probe damage, and what was more important all the probes mining gas were cut off. Ra had to pull off all the probes from natural, and he had no income from that fast expo some time. As Bisu kept rA busy with the dt harass, he expanded himself. Ra finally did managed to clear off the dark templars, as he almost lost expo.

Bisu was now at 4 gateways pumping dragoons / zeals, and he build a robo facility + observatory. Bisu quickly built a shuttle, and dropped 2 dts in rA`s main. Once again rA took big damage, and he had to transfer all the probes from main to expo. At this point, rA was at big disadvantage because Bisu took one more expo, and his macro from 8 gates was about to kick in. Ra tried to expand himself but it was denied by Bisu. Bisu decided to attack rA with big zeal/goon army, and he even dropped ht`s in rA`s main and he killed almost all the probes. Ra did managed to defend vs first big wave, but reinforcements killed his natural expo, and entered his main. Ra GG`s.

Nal_rA < Bisu 0-1

What to say about this game. I think the main reason why rA lost this game was his poor scouting. He lost so many probes because of that. Despite the fact that rA was taking so much probe damage CONSTANTLY, he did managed to pull off some awesome macro. If he only dealt better with those drops. Anyways, Bisu did managed to pull ahead to a good start, and he showed sweet multitasking. He kept on the pressure from beginning to the end. Ra never left his main to attack, he didn`t even try to damage Bisu`s eco.



Game Two: Reverse Temple



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

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Nal_rA vs Bisu @ RT

Once again, standard 1gate, gas fallowed by core builds (rA warped @ 12, while Bisu was at 8). Just like in the first game with scouting probe Bisu built one manner pylon, traping some probes. However he cancelled it when it was almost done. Bisu added a second gateway, but rA went straight to his robo facility. Ra had 3 goons and one zeal defending the entrance on higher ground below his natural. Bisu attacked with three gons, but he couldn`t do anything. A quick look in Bisu`s base discovered third gate being added, and a robo facility with observatory. Ra expaned after his second gate. Bisu started to produce 3 gate goons. Ra had around 5 goons and zeal defending his warping expo while Bisu had around 7 goons and zeal. Both players added a support bay, signing reaver usage.

As Ra`s expo finished, Bisu moved out with 10 goons, and rA was not that behind at all. He positioned himself below rA`s upper ground entrance, reinforcing and waiting for reaver that was coming in the shuttle. Once reaver came, Bisu went in for the kill. Just before Bisu attacked, rA`s very own reaver popped up, and it looked like rA would be able to defend, and get away with the fast expo.

Then something happened that no one would expect from rA, he made BIG micro mistake, and it cost him the game. Bisu started to push with big army, and rA tried to focus fire on reaver. Sadly, he miss clicked on one of Bisu dragoons. The reaver shot three deadly scarabs before it was destroyed in the middle of rA`s goons, wasting most of them with help of dragoons. Ra fought for his life with one reaver, probes and shield battery, but the end was inevitable. RA gg`s

Nal_rA < Bisu 0-2

I have nothing much to say about this game, one mistake led Ra to defeat. Once again nice bo execution from Bisu.



Game Three: Desert Fox



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

+ Show Spoiler +


Nal_rA vs Bisu @ Desert Fox

We all know both players opened with the same basic build ( gate, gas, core) Ra was @ 11, and Bisu was @ 3. The players built a zealot to kill the temple and neutral buildings blocking the expo. With no scouting possible for either player yet, Ra proved once again that he is a dreamer. While Bisu warped robo facility after core, rA choose stargate. Both players expanded. Making corsairs, ra went for +1 air weapons upgrade from core. Bisu had a support bay ready, and he even hid his shuttle so rA could not find it. But as he was to pick up reaver to drop it in ra`s main, ra killed shuttle before it reached the reaver. Ra showed to us his plan entirely, as he made fleet beacon and second stargate.

Ra`s start seemed to be working, as he sniped Bisus shuttles across the map, preventing him to to any kind of damage to him. While pumping goons Bisu smartly switched to dt`s, and that payed off. He was able to drop dt`s in rA`s main by creating diversion with an empty shuttle. Ra sent all of his corsairs to kill fake drop attempt. Bisu unloaded his dt`s, and despite having a forge, rA had no cannons for detection.

Long story short, rA did have few carriers, so he tried to damage Bisu. However there wasn`t much he could do while he was losing main to dt`s. Bisu had a lot of dragoons and he even made da`s. With no detection, and as he wasn`t able to do any real damage to Bisu rA GG`s.

Nal_rA < Bisu 0-3

I have to say I am a Nal_rA fan. But man rA played this series so bad, his micro was not on the level. The start in third game could have worked, it he had any detection in main. I am very disappointed.

Yes, Bisu did win 3-0 vs the best pvp nowadays, but I do not think he is more skilled than rA. I am not impressed by Bisu`s macro at all. Ra lost because of stupid mistakes. I do not want to in any discredit Bisu. He played ok, nice builds and nice reaction to what rA was doing. Given the years the guy could be big potential.



Game Four: Longinus II



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

+ Show Spoiler +
anti-spoiler rA game vs some nerd.




Game Five: BlitzX



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

+ Show Spoiler +
anti-spoiler rA game vs soem nerd.




Current Standings

Check out jkillashark's Results and Standings thread for the big picture, all the results, and what is left for this, the tenth MSL.

Next week is the second semi-final match-up between Savior and Hwasin. Can the zerg be stopped? Or wil Hwasin be the latest in a long line of victims. Find out soon.

Stay Tuned!
Mani.
ModeratorGodfather
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
February 09 2007 18:42 GMT
#2
very exhaustive descriptions this week
couldn't agree more though =(
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-09 18:45:37
February 09 2007 18:45 GMT
#3
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hahahaha I'll just assume those are placeholders for a mani-review-extravanza. Hopefully they will be more enjoyable than the actual games themselves
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27177 Posts
February 09 2007 18:46 GMT
#4
yeah sorry, a combination of being super busy and already knowing the results lowered my motivation to write.
ModeratorGodfather
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
February 09 2007 19:03 GMT
#5
Hey~ Nice anti-spoiler job Mani.

I honestly like the way you have your battle reports.
I think you should keep it that way.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 09 2007 19:24 GMT
#6
I love bisu and all.. but rA was SUPPOSED to win
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
February 09 2007 19:38 GMT
#7
the last game features some vultures if im not mistaken? damn bikejacking zealots!
zzzzzz
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
February 09 2007 19:39 GMT
#8
oh and yeah, very disapointing result. not anything against bisu but.. sigh
zzzzzz
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 09 2007 19:58 GMT
#9
hey ive gotta be honest, having "" under all the spiler things is really gay for people like me who just want to know what the results were
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
February 09 2007 20:07 GMT
#10
damn i was rooting for nal_ra =(
but shit bisu really is something 0_0 dismantled ra 3-0

btw mani really really nice putting effort into anti-spoiler vids. great move.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3821 Posts
February 09 2007 20:21 GMT
#11
lol I really liked the "" even tho I wanted ra to win too hehe
For the Swarm!
Blue
Profile Joined July 2004
Norway359 Posts
February 09 2007 20:25 GMT
#12
guys must realize that rA is not the protoss hero we need
guess we just have to be patient for the protoss saviour to show up
I must return to the time when I played with my own style, and when I determined the victory through strategies. And the strategies are a product of practicing more than anyone else. The key to success is to persevere through practice. Lim Yo-hwan
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
February 09 2007 20:53 GMT
#13
which if any of the games are worth watching?
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1605 Posts
February 09 2007 21:09 GMT
#14
damn, hate you bisu
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27177 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-09 21:46:05
February 09 2007 21:42 GMT
#15
On February 10 2007 04:58 travis wrote:
hey ive gotta be honest, having "" under all the spiler things is really gay for people like me who just want to know what the results were


cause there arent 10 other places on the site to find that?

http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet/index.php

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=49647
ModeratorGodfather
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
February 09 2007 22:28 GMT
#16
I love how Mani calls Justin some nerd :D.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
February 09 2007 22:28 GMT
#17
On February 10 2007 05:53 DukE wrote:
which if any of the games are worth watching?


Third game. You will see a rare and sucky strat from rA. Cool to see some other builds though.
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
February 09 2007 23:17 GMT
#18
report feedback ahead:
+ Show Spoiler +
First of all, those reports were awesome if that was the first time you did them. This is one of the few BW-related things where i know what i'm talking about, as i myself tried that few weeks ago.
It's harder than you might think, especially if you don't do it in your mother tongue. Kudos for that.

A few little points of criticism:

- try not to begin every sentence with a palyer's name. it gets repetitive quite fast. try using "he" or "after another [attack/2 minutes of macroing/his first expansion/whatever]" or similar.
- there are a few words that don't fit into context/ wrong word choices like "signing reaver usage" instead of "signaling reaver usage" or the grammar in the very last sentence but overall you did a really good job, honestly. maybe try reading the report again as a whole before posting or let it be read by another user, native speaker preferably but not necessarily.
- your conclusion after every game does not sound very "professional" (not that it needs to be). you let quite a bit of bias look through and that always sound a bit "awkward" to people who cheer for the player you obviously disrespect. you _might_ want to re-think that, although it's obviously a lot harder to do from a neutral point of view.

now that sounded like a lot of criticism but you have to look very hard to see these little flaws, amazing job overall and i give you a 9/10 because of the little grammar mistakes/poor word choices
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
February 10 2007 00:06 GMT
#19
Thank you all for feedback, it is really helpful. I see my mistakes clearly now. I promise to do better job next time
Climbing walls of an endless circle
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
February 10 2007 00:22 GMT
#20
On February 10 2007 09:06 Red_Dragon wrote:
Thank you all for feedback, it is really helpful. I see my mistakes clearly now. I promise to do better job next time


i just HAVE to quote Bob Ross:

"we don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents" !!!
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
February 10 2007 00:24 GMT
#21
thanks for the report!
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Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-10 02:12:48
February 10 2007 02:12 GMT
#22
"the best pvp nowadays" ... in statistics for tv games, that is.

"Given the years the guy could be big potential." Uh, what do you mean by this, hes up there with the very best p players now.
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
February 10 2007 04:21 GMT
#23
--- Nuked ---
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
February 10 2007 06:46 GMT
#24
+ Show Spoiler +
anti-spoiler rA game vs soem nerd.


Ahahahaha, oh Mani :D.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-10 07:39:42
February 10 2007 07:21 GMT
#25
Lol, game Five says its Blitz X. Isn't that Loginus ? Boycott Mani's Battle reports!



Jk, Oh yea This too:

[image loading]
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
February 10 2007 07:45 GMT
#26
nice report. but, the spoilers are showing up for me. I only see



in the 3 spoiler boxes, and the reports are outside of them
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 10 2007 07:57 GMT
#27
game two: nalra should get a new, optical mouse
And all is illuminated.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 10 2007 08:49 GMT
#28
On February 10 2007 06:42 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2007 04:58 travis wrote:
hey ive gotta be honest, having "" under all the spiler things is really gay for people like me who just want to know what the results were


cause there arent 10 other places on the site to find that?

http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet/index.php

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=49647


not saying it was a big issue

very very minor complaint
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
February 10 2007 12:05 GMT
#29
Fifth spoiler video is funny because the still shows vultures in it. -_-;;

NAL RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AUGHHHHHH
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SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
February 10 2007 12:31 GMT
#30
+ Show Spoiler +
I CAN"T BELIEVE RA GOT RAPED SO BAD !!!!
The Prince of DroneS
psychosis
Profile Joined November 2006
Sweden107 Posts
February 10 2007 20:04 GMT
#31
Well. The reason Kang Min lost those games to Bisu was obviously because of that damned map imbalance. Can be no other explanation. :p


Games VS Justin I havent checked out yet because I have been busy playing (censored). I will find the time to watch them soon, because I love to watch the Dreamer play. Don't like to see him lose 'tho
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
February 10 2007 23:39 GMT
#32
Bisu - nal_ra 1-0 yay!
Bisu - nal_ra 2-0 hooray
Bisu - nal_ra 3-0 hohoho :DDDDD
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Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
February 11 2007 18:31 GMT
#33
Guys, what a rape! We have a new PvP King?
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-11 18:46:10
February 11 2007 18:45 GMT
#34
double post sorry, delete this plz
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
February 16 2007 16:33 GMT
#35
Cant believe I didnt see this news post earlier. nal_ra KOed
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