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July 11th, 2013 22:07 GMT
2013 WCS KOREA
WCS Korea Season II

Ro16 - Day Four Recap
Soulkey, Bomber clinch Ro8 berths, Flash and PartinG eliminated

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Ro16: Day Four Recap

by Waxangel

(Z)Soulkey, (T)Bomber and (T)Maru clinch quarter-final spots with victories; (P)PartinG and (T)Flash eliminated after losses

Two-thirds of the way through the Starleague Ro16, four players have already confirmed their advancement to the quarter-finals. (T)ST_Bomber and (T)MaruPrime earned their passage by winning their matches on Thursday night, while (T)STX_INnoVation and (Z)Woongjin_Soulkey secured their Ro8 spots without playing due to lucky results from other matches in their groups.

On the other hand, another four players had to face the disappointment of elimination. Most notably, two members from last season's group of death in (P)SKT_PartinG and (T)KT_Flash were eliminated after losing their matches to Symbol and Bomber respectively. With 0 - 2 records, (T)CJ_Bbyong and (Z)LG-IM_KangHo were holding out for results that might keep the chance of a tiebreaker alive, but instead they could only watch from a distance as Bomber and Maru's wins 100% confirmed their eliminations.

Group A
1.(Z)Soulkey2 - 0
2.(Z)soO1 - 1
3.(Z)Symbol1 - 1
4.(P)PartinG0 - 2
Group B
1.(T)INnoVation2 - 0
1.(T)Bomber2 - 0
3.(T)Flash0 - 2
3.(T)Bbyong0 - 2
Group C
1.(P)First2 - 0
2.(P)Rain1 - 1
3.(Z)hyvaa1 - 1
4.(T)FanTaSy0 - 2
Group D
1.(T)Maru2 - 0
2.(T)SuperNova1 - 1
3.(P)Trap1 - 1
4.(Z)KangHo0 - 1


Detailed results from Live Report Thread by Shellshock1122.
+ Show Spoiler [Click for detailed results] +
Symbol vs. PartinG
(Z)Symbol <Star Station> (P)PartinG
(Z)Symbol <Gwangalli Beach> (P)PartinG
(Z)Symbol <Akilon Wastes> (P)PartinG

(Z)Symbol wins 2-1!

Bomber vs. Flash
(T)Bomber <Akilon Wastes> (T)Flash
(T)Bomber <Anaconda> (T)Flash
(T)Bomber <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (T)Flash

(T)Bomber wins 2-0!

FanTaSy vs. hyvaa
(T)FanTaSy <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (Z)hyvaa
(T)FanTaSy <Whirlwind> (Z)hyvaa
(T)FanTaSy <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)hyvaa

(Z)hyvaa wins 2-1!

Maru vs. SuperNova
(T)Maru <Bel'Shir Vestige> (T)SuperNova
(T)Maru <Star Station> (T)SuperNova
(T)Maru <Gwangalli Beach> (T)SuperNova

(T)Maru wins 2-1!


(Z)Azubu.Symbol (2 - 1) (P)SKT_PartinG

PartinG's string of miserable PvZ results continued as he dropped yet another series to Azubu's Symbol. Not only did he see his PvZ record fall to 7 - 17 since May, but the loss also confirmed his elimination from the Starleague. Due to the Starleague ignoring map score and only taking head-to-head into account for tie-breakers, Symbol's win advanced Soulkey, eliminated PartinG, and now leaves Symbol and soO to fight for the last remaining spot.

Swarm hosts and brood lords were the key to Symbol's victory in a series that saw PartinG decline to use any of his famous all-ins. Game one saw PartinG play standard, going up to three bases with colossi while bracing to hold against Symbol's roach-hydra-corruptor timing. While PartinG managed to survive the attack, he couldn't make any headway against Symbol's smooth swarm host transition. After being held back by waves of locusts, PartinG was forced to tap out once brood lords emerged to to complete a deadly air & ground free unit combo.

Game two played out in a similar pattern at first, with PartinG taking his third and Symbol trying to overwhelm him with roach-hydra-corruptor. However, unlike game one, Symbol decided not to transition to swarm hosts and continued with the same unit composition. Unfortunately for Symbol he ended up getting roped into a poor base trade against mass blink stalkers and sentries, which PartinG used to easily wipe out Symbol's bases and army.

With the series on the line, Symbol went back to what had worked for him in game one, transitioning into swarm hosts out of a roach-hydra mid game. While PartinG's risky double-robo colossi strategy nearly caught him off guard, Symbol was able to successfully stall with swarm hosts until he had brood lords again, forcing PartinG to surrender the series.


(T)ST_Bomber (2 - 0) (T)KT_Flash

Though Bomber claimed he had been practicing the wrong strategies after being misinformed about the time of the new hellbat patch, it didn't stop him from beating a hellbat-using Flash nonetheless. In fact, he executed a more or less perfect counter build against Flash's hellbat-drop expand in game one. By going vikings and mass hellions, Bomber was able to easily neutralize Flash's drop and then launch an unstoppable counter-attack with his hellions. With his economy devastated by hellions, Flash had no choice but to give a quick GG.

The second game saw a bit of role-reversal as it was Flash who looked to take advantage of the speedy hellions. Opening up the backdoor rocks on Anaconda, Flash snuck in several blue flame hellions to kill off dozens of Bomber's SCVs. However, the sacrifice of the hellions opened him up to a dangerous counter attack from Bomber's mech army. To make matters worse, Flash got caught out of position, with his army split into two halves fighting the wrong parts of Bomber's army. Bomber's vikings took care of the tanks stuck on one side, while hellbats and thors took care of the rest. With his army wiped out, Flash had to concede defeat and drop out of the Ro16 for the second straight season.


(Z)STX_hyvaa (2 - 1) (T)SKT_FanTaSy

Bomber wasn't the only player to complain about being misinformed about patch time, only to go on and defeat his opponent anyway. All-ins were a core part of Hyvaa's run through Challenger League and into the Starleague, and he wasn't afraid to pull them out again he needed effective strategies on short notice. The first game—a failed 6-pool rush—didn't go Hyvaa's way, but two more all-ins in the following games were enough to give him the come from behind victory against Fantasy.

Game two saw hyvaa go for the Symbol special with a nydus worm attack off two bases, which worked perfectly as Fantasy carelessly left corners of his base unscouted. After that, Hyvaa finished Fantasy off with a more common all-in in game three, using roach-bane to pierce Fantasy's defenses and force the last GG.

Unlike the other groups, Group C is still totally up in the air going into the final week of the Ro16. While First and Fantasy are 2 - 0 and 0 - 2 respectively, the head-to-head situation means that the possibility of tiebreakers remains. If Fantasy goes 0 - 3 and the other players end at 2 - 1, then there will be a three-way tiebreaker at the top. Also, if First goes 3 - 0 and the remaining players go 1 - 2, then there would be a three-way tiebreak at the bottom.


(T)MaruPrime (2 - 1) (T)Azubu.SuperNova

What promised to be the last great Hellbat war of the era ended up failing to live up to such expectations. Instead, both Maru and SuperNoVa seemed to be already looking ahead to the next patch, as cloaked banshees figured heavily into their game plans. From the very first game, both players went banshee and counter banshee, which ended up being a wash on both sides. After that their game plans diverged, with SuperNoVa going for the newly emerging TvT standard of mech, while Maru decided to stick with the older standby of pure bio. Detecting a weakness in SuperNoVa's positioning, Maru launched a daring headlong assault into SuperNoVa's defenses, a risk that paid off as he was able to smash through and take game one (if this sounds like a WoL game, then you're right).

Someone did get ahead with drops in game two, but it turned out to be regular old hellion drops and not hellbat drops as SuperNoVa managed to slip in to roast some SCVs. The game played out without any further complications, SuperNoVa was able to ride his early lead to a comfortable win.

The final game of the series ended up being a near repeat of game one, as both players went for some early harassment before settling down into a bio vs. mech battle. Once again, Maru was able to get an excellent engagement against SuperNoVa's mech army, winning a decisive victory and forcing the GG.

The win sent Maru through to the quarter-finals while KangHo has been eliminated. The last spot in the group will now go to whoever wins between Trap and SuperNova.


More WCS Korea / Starleague Coverage

July 22 – First and Rain advance to Ro8 after triple tiebreakers.
July 17 – SuperNoVa secures his Ro8 spot while First faces the possibility of tie-breakers.
July 12 – Soulkey, Bomber, Maru cinch Ro8 spots; PartinG and Flash eliminated.
July 10 – First continues his surprise run, defeating Rain to go up 2 - 0 in Group B.
July 3 – First's immaculate PvT shines on first day of Ro16 matches
June 28 – SKT duo of PartinG and Rain advance from the final day of the Ro32
June 28 – Groups for Starleague Ro16 announced, Innovation and Flash in group B.


Writers: Waxangel
Graphics: wo1fwood.
Editor: Waxangel.
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asdfOu
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United States2089 Posts
July 11 2013 22:17 GMT
#2
MARUUUU #primefaith #ibelieve #nevergiveup
rip prime
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 11 2013 22:19 GMT
#3
This season belongs to the Bomber
AdministratorBreak the chains
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
July 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#4
Maru is keeping Prime relevant, awesome. MKP won his games today in challenger, too...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#5
Fantasy still has a chance to advance? O_o
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
July 11 2013 22:38 GMT
#6
On July 12 2013 07:19 Zealously wrote:
This season belongs to the Bomber

He's been cursed by Artosis, and then there is his own curse... that's like a double curse... there is just no way.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 22:45:01
July 11 2013 22:44 GMT
#7
On July 12 2013 07:28 Cokefreak wrote:
Fantasy still has a chance to advance? O_o


Yes.

First could beat hyvaa

Fantasy could beat Rain

then:

First 3-0

Hyvaa 1-2

Rain 1-2

Fantasy 1-2

Fantasy then has a shot in the tiebreaker
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 11 2013 22:49 GMT
#8
On July 12 2013 07:38 DRTnOOber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 07:19 Zealously wrote:
This season belongs to the Bomber

He's been cursed by Artosis, and then there is his own curse... that's like a double curse... there is just no way.


Or maybe its a double negative?

Or more likely, he finally wins an OSL, only to fall out of the WCS system for the rest of eternity. The ultimate Bomber's law scenario
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
July 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#9
Supernova pls T_T
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#10
I'm quite sad PartinG lost. Guess I have to cheer for First and Rain now.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2013 23:29 GMT
#11
You should mention that with Fantasy and Parting losing, SKT went 0-8 in WCS KR matches this week
+ Show Spoiler +
OSL
soO lost to Soulkey
Rain lost to First
PartinG lost to Symbol
FanTaSy lost to hyvaa

Challenger
Journey lost to Flying
Mamuri lost to MarineKing
s2 lost to EffOrt
ParalyzE lost to Dream
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
July 11 2013 23:38 GMT
#12
On July 12 2013 07:38 DRTnOOber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 07:19 Zealously wrote:
This season belongs to the Bomber

He's been cursed by Artosis, and then there is his own curse... that's like a double curse... there is just no way.


If we're lucky, maybe those curses can cancel each other out. Would love to see Bomber at the very least make finals of this OSL, don't even care if he loses there.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 12 2013 00:43 GMT
#13
Bomber pretty much guaranteed to win this osl then get reverse swept in wcs finals.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 01:15:36
July 12 2013 01:15 GMT
#14
On July 12 2013 08:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
You should mention that with Fantasy and Parting losing, SKT went 0-8 in WCS KR matches this week
+ Show Spoiler +
OSL
soO lost to Soulkey
Rain lost to First
PartinG lost to Symbol
FanTaSy lost to hyvaa

Challenger
Journey lost to Flying
Mamuri lost to MarineKing
s2 lost to EffOrt
ParalyzE lost to Dream

Genius, throwing unimportant OSL games to hide builds and win dat Proleague.
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
July 12 2013 01:43 GMT
#15
MARUUUUUUU~~~~~~~~~~~
MarineKing / Jaedong / DeMusliM / SeleCT / Maru hwaiting!
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
July 12 2013 02:28 GMT
#16
Wowow go Maru, didn't think you had it in you!
And Bomber; YOU NEED TO STOP PLAYING WITH MY EMOTIONS LIKE THIS
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
July 12 2013 02:42 GMT
#17
Ah Bomber, the classic setup... "Holy crap he beat GOD!?" Don't get too excited people, we've seen this kind of bait and switch before.
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YPJake
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United States7 Posts
July 12 2013 02:53 GMT
#18
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.
Copying a pro's build without understanding it leads to a lot more losses than wins.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 03:11:51
July 12 2013 03:02 GMT
#19
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


No, I'd say Flash is above average. He's still doing extraordinarily well in SPL and his macro is probably the best out there.

I will agree he's been a bit overhyped in sc2 though.

I see him being anchored in code S, maybe even making a ro4. I don't see him winning this year though. Maybe he'll win a MLG or some other less competitive major tournament though.
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Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 12 2013 03:21 GMT
#20
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Common I'm no Flash fan but he is not average. Top 10 still.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 03:34:15
July 12 2013 03:33 GMT
#21
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Nicknames, positive ones anyway, stick once they've been given out.

Jaedong is still the Tyrant, Flash is still god, and MVP is still the King.

Some slumping or crossover degradation is no reason to strip a player of a rightfully earned title. If it helps you sleep at night, just refer to them by their extended titles:

Jaedong the Tyrant of Brood War

Flash the God of Brood War

MVP the King of Wings...

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
July 12 2013 03:34 GMT
#22
On July 12 2013 12:21 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Common I'm no Flash fan but he is not average. Top 10 still.

top 16 i guess
Incredible Miracle
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 12 2013 03:47 GMT
#23
On July 12 2013 12:02 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


No, I'd say Flash is above average. He's still doing extraordinarily well in SPL and his macro is probably the best out there.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

this gentleman might have something to say about that...
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 12 2013 03:53 GMT
#24
On July 12 2013 11:42 wo1fwood wrote:
Ah Bomber, the classic setup... "Holy crap he beat GOD!?" Don't get too excited people, we've seen this kind of bait and switch before.

It's not happening. It can't. Fionn curse is no more. PLS PLS PLS.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
July 12 2013 04:24 GMT
#25
Maru Maru Maru Maru
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
July 12 2013 05:12 GMT
#26
Nice to see Maru and Bomber advance :D
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
July 12 2013 05:19 GMT
#27
I'm hoping First wins this season so we can have a Protoss winner :D And also because I've always like First. HerO, Oz and First are my favorite Protoss players :D
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 06:40:27
July 12 2013 06:39 GMT
#28
On July 12 2013 07:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 07:28 Cokefreak wrote:
Fantasy still has a chance to advance? O_o


Yes.

First could beat hyvaa

Fantasy could beat Rain

then:

First 3-0

Hyvaa 1-2

Rain 1-2

Fantasy 1-2

Fantasy then has a shot in the tiebreaker

Or Hyvaa beats First, then Fantasy throws the match for the team.

First 2-1

Hyvaa 2-1

Rain 2-1

Fantasy 0-3
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3753 Posts
July 12 2013 07:54 GMT
#29
On July 12 2013 12:21 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Common I'm no Flash fan but he is not average. Top 10 still.

Maybe, maybe not. Definitely Flash won't be top 3 next power rank unless someone will be hugely biased or Flash will pull some miracle after miracle in Proleague playoffs.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1481 Posts
July 12 2013 08:35 GMT
#30
There are many great sc2 players out there, and even then we often get surprises. Thre is hardly any long period of domination by one player.
I assume this is due to the fact the game is still in its infant stage, and as the fact that sc2 unit counters are ridiculously strong even on A-Move, makes sc2 a very volatile game.
Thats great for the viewers, for the gamers, not so much.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 12 2013 08:41 GMT
#31
On July 12 2013 17:35 iloveav wrote:
There are many great sc2 players out there, and even then we often get surprises. Thre is hardly any long period of domination by one player.
I assume this is due to the fact the game is still in its infant stage, and as the fact that sc2 unit counters are ridiculously strong even on A-Move, makes sc2 a very volatile game.
Thats great for the viewers, for the gamers, not so much.

A-moving is horrible for everyone that isn't doing it. Watching it is horrid in comparison to watching excellently microd units.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
July 12 2013 08:43 GMT
#32
People go around shooting elephants. Isn`t that forbidden by law? This has to be punished.
keep it deep! @zulison
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 12 2013 08:49 GMT
#33
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Did you see the group he was in last Season? and this season he had the best player in the world, a Terran who is really good or really silly (this time he was really good) and we've yet to see Flash v Bbyong yet.

He is definitely top 10
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 14:11:42
July 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#34
At least flash losing to tha bomba, maru going through to next round and first's, symbol's and supernova's chances balances the kespa esf bitchfight a bit to be continued...
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3485 Posts
July 12 2013 10:40 GMT
#35
God I hate the nickname God..
It's okay to be god of something, but just God, you refer to the one God of Christianity, which sucks, because it's the highest status anyone can ever have, it's like saying none will ever surpass him.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
SocialFox
Profile Joined July 2012
Russian Federation16 Posts
July 12 2013 11:55 GMT
#36
Or it is like saying that Flash doesn't exist. Quite an insult.
2cool4SC2
Profile Joined June 2012
Denmark15 Posts
July 12 2013 14:13 GMT
#37
On July 12 2013 19:40 ejozl wrote:
God I hate the nickname God..
It's okay to be god of something, but just God, you refer to the one God of Christianity, which sucks, because it's the highest status anyone can ever have, it's like saying none will ever surpass him.


And noone could in Brood War.
Which is how he got his nickname.

God is just a nickname that stuck with him from BW to SC2, where he in my opinion, is not worthy of the nickname.. yet.
But he's doing extraordinarily well in the small time he's been in the SC2 scene, he's adapting very well.
nuttin
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 14:19:29
July 12 2013 14:18 GMT
#38
On July 12 2013 12:34 winthrop wrote:
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On July 12 2013 12:21 painkilla wrote:
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Common I'm no Flash fan but he is not average. Top 10 still.

top 16 i guess

Most wins in SPL by 5 over Innovation is pretty significant. He's definitely top 10 and dropping a bo3 to Bomber doesn't change much
Yhamm is the god of predictions
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 12 2013 14:53 GMT
#39
On July 12 2013 23:18 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 12:34 winthrop wrote:
On July 12 2013 12:21 painkilla wrote:
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Common I'm no Flash fan but he is not average. Top 10 still.

top 16 i guess

Most wins in SPL by 5 over Innovation is pretty significant. He's definitely top 10 and dropping a bo3 to Bomber doesn't change much


Flash will win his gsl title eventually, hes just to solid (PL results says it all basically). Have faith and patience
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
July 12 2013 16:33 GMT
#40
He was God in BW not SC2. He is still a top player though.
Total Annihilation Zero
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 12 2013 18:19 GMT
#41
I guess Bomber is the true Terran Devil.
maru lover forever
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
July 12 2013 18:24 GMT
#42
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


You don't know what you're talking about.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
July 12 2013 18:59 GMT
#43
On July 12 2013 19:40 ejozl wrote:
God I hate the nickname God..
It's okay to be god of something, but just God, you refer to the one God of Christianity, which sucks, because it's the highest status anyone can ever have, it's like saying none will ever surpass him.


But the Nietzsche-quote did fit so well in this case
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 12 2013 19:02 GMT
#44
On July 12 2013 16:54 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 12:21 painkilla wrote:
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Common I'm no Flash fan but he is not average. Top 10 still.

Maybe, maybe not. Definitely Flash won't be top 3 next power rank unless someone will be hugely biased or Flash will pull some miracle after miracle in Proleague playoffs.


Flash still has top level TvZ, probably Innovation's level. Placing him in a group of 3 zergs and maybe we'll see him in Ro8 for the first time .
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
July 12 2013 19:10 GMT
#45
Bomber please advance to finals. The last finals he has ever been in was the Redbull LAN battlegrounds last year. Plz plz plz Bomber
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
July 12 2013 21:38 GMT
#46
On July 13 2013 04:10 Dontkillme wrote:
Bomber please advance to finals. The last finals he has ever been in was the Redbull LAN battlegrounds last year. Plz plz plz Bomber

I don't want Bomber to disappoint in a finals lol, would ruin the whole day. I'd rather that he either win the finals or don't make it that far.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3753 Posts
July 13 2013 10:58 GMT
#47
On July 13 2013 04:02 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 16:54 nimdil wrote:
On July 12 2013 12:21 painkilla wrote:
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Common I'm no Flash fan but he is not average. Top 10 still.

Maybe, maybe not. Definitely Flash won't be top 3 next power rank unless someone will be hugely biased or Flash will pull some miracle after miracle in Proleague playoffs.


Flash still has top level TvZ, probably Innovation's level. Placing him in a group of 3 zergs and maybe we'll see him in Ro8 for the first time .

If you need three zergs in Ro16 to get to Ro8 you're not top3 player ATM
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
July 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#48
Bomber > INnovation
Bomber>Osl (loses at finals 4-0)
Drops out of WCS
$O$ | soO
Crackpot
Profile Joined May 2013
58 Posts
July 14 2013 21:45 GMT
#49
Everytime Flash faces another great player, he struggles. For me it looks like Flash easily outplays anyone who doesn't have a micro/multitasking - focused style (That explains that his TvZ is so much better than the other matchups). Its like there is an invisible level of skill that flash hasn't reached yet to compete with others at the high level. Just look at Proleague, most wins but 1-3 stats on ace matches.

I think he will easily enter code s/osl everytime just for getting crashed out.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
July 14 2013 23:10 GMT
#50
On July 13 2013 19:58 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 04:02 painkilla wrote:
On July 12 2013 16:54 nimdil wrote:
On July 12 2013 12:21 painkilla wrote:
On July 12 2013 11:53 YPJake wrote:
Knowing that Flash was huge in BW, I struggle to know why people keep referring to him at God in SC2. I would venture to say that Flash, while a great BW player is truly an average Code S korean player. Granted I realize that Code S in itself is incredible, but Flash is by no means at the top of that group.


Common I'm no Flash fan but he is not average. Top 10 still.

Maybe, maybe not. Definitely Flash won't be top 3 next power rank unless someone will be hugely biased or Flash will pull some miracle after miracle in Proleague playoffs.


Flash still has top level TvZ, probably Innovation's level. Placing him in a group of 3 zergs and maybe we'll see him in Ro8 for the first time .

If you need three zergs in Ro16 to get to Ro8 you're not top3 player ATM


I don't think anyone would claim he is top 3 right now.

He's top 5 Terran though, imo.
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
July 16 2013 08:14 GMT
#51
Scared for Bombers next performance :F could he do it..............?
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