Well, this is awkward. In another unexpected change in the new WCS system, scheduling has worked out so the newly dubbed "Challenger League" (formerly known as Code A) won't actually have all of its games streamed. While we'll surely all be busy sending GomTV angry emails demanding that the off-air games be shown at a later date, why not read a short recap of the action so far in the meanwhile?
Protoss > Zerg
It was a good night for Protoss players in Code A, as they went 5 - 1 overall and 4 - 0 against Zerg opponents. While some results were not surprising at all, such as LG-IM_Squirtle's romp over 8th_ALBM, even the less heralded Protoss players got their due as STX_Trap took down MVP.Sniper and ST_Avenge scored a big upset over CJ_Hydra. For long suffering Protoss fans, there was a sense of poetic justice in the match between Sniper and Trap, and Trap took the deciding game with a creative Skytoss "rush" against former king of brood lord-infestor in WoL.
OSL Champions > Not-OSL Champions
Alongside Terran, Protoss, and Zerg, there was a fourth race of players competing on the night, that rare group known as OnGameNet Starleague Champions. SKT_FanTaSy, Samsung_JangBi, and CJ_EffOrt all won their matches, meaning that next season Flash might not be the only member of the OSL-Champions-in-WCS-Premier-League club.
The advancement of these three champions is of particular interest because of the timing of this season. The next WCS Season in Korea will be run by OnGameNet, which has kept the "Starleague" name the same way the GSL has kept the "Code S" name when they host WCS. OnGameNet and long time OnGameNet fans would like nothing better than to see five or more past OSL champs come together in the first HotS Starleague, and they'll be watching the paths of these past champions carefully.
KepsA (3 - 2) eSF
There were five KeSPA vs. eSF matches on the night, and the results mirrored the current Code S season with KeSPA coming out with a small lead. Effort, JangBi, and Trap scored the wins for KeSPA, while Avenge and Squirtle protected the pride of the federation. However, the Challenger League is still wide open for either side to take, with eight KeSPA vs. eSF matches remaining to be played off air in the Ro48.
Welcome to the strongest group ever formed in the history of SC2. It all started with some old-fashioned smack talk between Parting and Life in the Ro32, with the once Startale Protoss calling Life an easy opponent, and one that was merely lucky to have played zerg in WoL. Life responded by saying that Parting’s skill level not even high enough to reach his feet. This led to an inevitable game of chicken in the ro16 group nominations as neither player wanted to back down from the other, causing non-stop escalatio of outrageously strong player picks until these four players ended up in one group. You could hear Mr. Chae's anguish on the mic as he asked the players to think about the poor, poor tournament organizers as well, but his pleas fell on deaf ears.
Now we have a group of four of the strongest players in the world. All four players players have been hailed as the best of their respective races. All four players want the championship. All four believe that they will completely and utterly dominate the group. But only two can survive. Welcome to the group of death.
The Soul Train
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it’s a goddamn train. Here we are again with SKT_PartinGbearing the hopes of Protoss race. Yes, sOs may be the up and coming prince of Protoss, but for now the throne belongs to Parting. He is the one that the other Protosses look to lead them out of the darkness and to the holy land of a GSL championship. With Zerg and Terran players closing in on all sides and slowly squeezing the Protoss race out of the GSL, it will be up to Parting to save the Protoss race. If this all sounds familiar it’s because this is the exact scenario in which Parting made his major breakthrough last year, when he went on a strong end of the year run to win WCS and WCG. He even made it to the finals of the Blizzard Cup and was about to stand on top of the SC2 world, only to be cut down by his own teammate Life.
Life the child-prodigy, Life the royal roader, Life the player to break the ST curse, Life the boy-king. Parting could no longer stand in the shadow of Life so he cashed in on his skill and championship resume to switch teams to SKT1. From there Parting got revenge on his former teammate in the first season of 2013 GSL by picking Life for his group and knocking him out in the ro16. It was supposed to be his time, Parting seemed destined to finally win a GSL. But Startale had other plans and denied him his glory as Curious would smash him 3-0 in the Ro8.
Now here we are in the first HotS GSL and Parting has concocted the strongest group possible. And while Parting slumped a bit against Terran in MLG, it has been more than a month since then. He has gotten used to the medivac and has had time to adjust to the new world of PvT. And among Protosses, Parting is probably the absolute best when it comes to execution and mind games. While not as completely intellectual in his Protoss play like Squirtle or Rain, he is still one of the absolute smartest players on the planet and the only Protoss I can see with a real chance of making it out of this group. It will all come down to one thing for Parting. Does he have the soul to take on the 3 other greatest players in the world? When asked the only response he gave was:
"Choo Choo, muhfukkas!!"
The Group of Life and Death
Where the other players in the group can lay claim to being the best players of their race, onlyST_Lifecan make the claim of being the best player in the world. His victory over Mvp half an year ago was the changing of the guard and Life inherited the earth. Since then Life has won 2 MLGs, 2 GSLs and 1 Iron Squid completing the world triple crown in less than a year since his first GSL appearance. He has made a new world order putting himself at the top and everyone else below him. All the world shook as Life battled the best players of the era in grand finals: Mvp, Leenock, DRG, Parting, Flash. None defeated him.
While many players have developed rivalries with Life, Life has barely acknowledged any of his rivals. Certainly he’ll exchange banter with Parting in trash talk and he’ll acknowledge Flash as a player, but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa. So Life should be going into this with a clearer mind than Parting and Flash as he has nothing to prove. He’s already proven he can beat them when it counts the most and Life will probably go into this group like he does in all of his matches, with complete and utter confidence.
In addition to his mindset, Life has incredibly strong series mentality, often able to gain the advantage in the mind games and keep it even if the series goes long. And the most dangerous aspect about Life is simply put, he is the best zerg in the world with only Leenock being comparable. This makes it nearly impossible for the other players to prepare for him with training partners, while Life can still play old friend Squirtle to prepare for Parting and Bomber for the Terrans. The only thing certain about Life’s play is that he can do anything at any time and do it better than anyone else. Even when Life is in dire straits, the pressure seems to make him play even better, which has fueled him to make comeback after comeback. Best of all for Life, none of his opponents are Zergs. While Parting, Innovation and Flash are three of the best players in the world, Life’s tournaments runs have only ever been stopped in ZvZs.
The Greatest Terran in the World
With Mvp vacating his throne for WCS EU, the Terran throne has become empty in Korea leading to a mad scramble to decide who would become the new leader of the Korean Terrans. After MLG and GSL, there are only two candidates left for that title. The first is STX_INnoVation, Tastosis' most beloved player since Nestea left for WCS USA. It’s well deserved for Innovation, as while he doesn’t have the results of the rest of the players in the group, his skills are certainly their equal.
Unlike the rest of the players in this group, his story started out with very inauspiciously. Much like Mvp, he was just a mid-tier Terran from Brood War, except that he had even less results and a less ambitious ID in 'Bogus.' He was a solid player, but not someone that was in the upper echelons of Brood War. But something happened on the day of July 24th, 2012. On July 24th, Bogus played his last official game of BW at Yongsan. On that day, the player known as Bogus died, and his spirit drifted on to haunt the KR ladder. Not much is known about those months other than the wanderer MajOr met this spirit on the ladder, and became his first prophet. From there, the legend begin to spread with these famous words, “Bogus, man. Bogus.” After 4 months of training and meditation, he was ready to come back into the world on November 5th, 2012. On that day he was reincarnated, and he christened himself with a new name: Innovation.
Innovation would then take on GSL by storm, destroying Code A and easily making it out of the group stages in every Code S he has been a part of. With so many games played, one thing became clear. Innovation was a step above the rest. There no one thing special about him. He just played the standard Terran style better, than anyone with better macro, micro, timings and decision making than the rest. Here was the final form of Terran made flesh, here was Innovation. No gimmicks, no tricks, no cheese, just pure raw strength and skill. While that may hurt him later on in the play off stages, it has always gotten him through the group stages and for Innovation, that is all that matters.
Sooner or later, God’ll cut you down
Coming in last to the sound of cherubs blowing trumpets and seals breaking, we have the other player who contends to be the best Terran in the world. KT_Flash, the God of Brood War and KeSPA's greatest champion. While Kespa has had more successful players in SC2 like Rain and Roro, it is Flash that everyone thinks of when the Kespa teams are brought up. Flash is the one everyone expected to dominate the scene when it's all said and done. And unlike the rest of TBLS (Bisu, Stork, Flash, Jaedong), Flash has delivered. While the other three of have been exiled to either Code B or WCS NA, Flash has been making a run on the royal road.
For Flash this is an incredibly important season. It has been one year and one expansion since the switch. One year being moderated to Code A, one year of practice, one year to prepare for this one moment. For fans, this is the moment. This is the stage where everything will come to a head. Flash against the very best in the world. And more importantly Flash against Life.
Now known as neo-LeeSsangRok, a new age rivalry has developed between Flash and Life due to their numerous encounters at MLG. It is a battle that no one can look away from, and one where everyone must choose a side: Kespa vs. ESF, the young prodigy vs. the even younger prodigy, God vs. the most defiant man, Pocari Sweat vs. Red Bull. The parallels between the two are numerous. Both won their first championship at the young age of 15. Flash dominated BW with 6 major individual titles, Life already has 5.
But the facts tell the real tale. While their games with each other are very intense, the end results are decidedly one sided with Life winning favored head to head with a score of 10-5 in maps, and more importantly 3 - 0 in series. (2 MLGs and one Asian Martial arts).
For Flash, Life is the problem. He is the one obstacle that Flash must clear if he wishes to become the greatest in the world. Flash has already beaten Parting before, he’s already defeated Innovation. And while those two are are both very strong players that can beat Flash, only Life has denied him victory again and again. No matter how long it takes God will not be satisfied until he gets his revenge. Even if Life wins again here, Flash will make the message clear. Sooner or later, God will cut you down.
Overall Predictions
No player has a better chance to advance than any other. No matter how you think on it, any player can advance. But it seems impossible that one of them could ever drop two straight series. And yet it must happen. In a group like this, anything goes and your guess is as good as mine.
Parting > Life Innovation > Flash Innovation > Parting Life > Flash Life > Parting
(Vote): PartinG & Life (Vote): PartinG & INnoVation (Vote): PartinG & Flash (Vote): Life & INnoVation (Vote): Life & Flash (Vote): INnoVation & Flash
Poll: Heart?
Life & Flash (444)
36%
INnoVation & Flash (242)
20%
PartinG & Life (187)
15%
PartinG & Flash (167)
14%
Life & INnoVation (108)
9%
PartinG & INnoVation (71)
6%
1219 total votes
Your vote: Heart?
(Vote): PartinG & Life (Vote): PartinG & INnoVation (Vote): PartinG & Flash (Vote): Life & INnoVation (Vote): Life & Flash (Vote): INnoVation & Flash
Poll: Most anticipated matchup?
Flash vs. Life (530)
50%
Life vs. INnoVation (223)
21%
Life vs. PartinG (166)
16%
Flash vs. INnoVation (91)
9%
Flash vs. PartinG (27)
3%
INnoVation vs. PartinG (19)
2%
1056 total votes
Your vote: Most anticipated matchup?
(Vote): Life vs. INnoVation (Vote): Flash vs. Life (Vote): Flash vs. INnoVation (Vote): Life vs. PartinG (Vote): Flash vs. PartinG (Vote): INnoVation vs. PartinG
Depends on whether Flash's TvT has improved or not, otherwise Innovation would probably advance alongside Life. But I never bet against God, so Flash and Life it is
Life > Parting Innovation > Flash Life > Innovation Parting > Flash Innovation > Parting
I don't think Flash is looking as dominant as people assume. He's 1-4 in Proleague in the last 5 matches, or something like that. I really want to see Parting take him down, if they do meet. And I think Innovation is a more solid player atm compared to Flash.
My head says Life & Innovation, but my heart wants Parting & Life. Anything can happen, though.
On May 02 2013 07:14 BronzeKnee wrote: When does the Group of Death play?
Be nice if that was included in the article.
TL calendar is on the right
Yes it is. But I got all excited about the group, and then had to search around to figure out when they would play. Unlike the [WCS AM] or [WCS EU], it was under [CODE S] in the calendar, I figured it would be under [WCS KR]. And the author apparently thought so too, and titled the article with [WCS KR], furthering my confusion! You guys should fix that too, and label everything the same.
It is also pretty standard for previews in other sports to give us the time.
The same way it is included in say... this preview of the upcoming game between the Boston Celtics and NY Knicks that I am about to watch... check it out:
Weirdly enough I somehow so life feeling. I feel like tomorrow, both flash and innovation will be able to beat him (just because Terran), or maybe it's just that I am hoping that this will happen.
Honestly, I consider Flash a favorite against innovation. Then again who the hell knows anything about this group. All of these players dont just make mistakes, you have to force them. And one mistake is not going to be enough to close a game out, not today. Whether its mindgames, macro, micro or all of them together, we are going to see starcraft II at its highest level since the beta of WoL. There is too much pride on the line for it to be any different
On May 02 2013 07:13 Emzeeshady wrote: How the fuck was Sniper the king of BL/Infestor
He went Muta/Ling/Bane more then almost any Zerg and often went Ultralisk in the lategame. I know everyone hates Sniper for beating their favourite players but making stuff up is still wrong.
It is about time the poor guy got some credit. He won a GSL, has done extremely well for MVP in IPL and GSTL and has shown an outstanding level of gameplay.
On May 02 2013 07:13 Emzeeshady wrote: How the fuck was Sniper the king of BL/Infestor
He went Muta/Ling/Bane more then almost any Zerg and often went Ultralisk in the lategame. I know everyone hates Sniper for beating their favourite players but making stuff up is still wrong.
It is about time the poor guy got some credit. He won a GSL, has done extremely well for MVP in IPL and GSTL and has shown an outstanding level of gameplay.
I'lL go with Life and Innovation. It all comes down to the TvT imo. And yeah, I agree with Emzeeshady. Sniper's legit and didn't rely too heavily on BL - Infestor, so no need to "crown" him.
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote: I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.
If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote: I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.
If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote: I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.
If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.
Guessing you don't watch Proleague.
Watched his games there as well and BO1 format doesn't apply at this group prediction at all.
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote: I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.
If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.
Guessing you don't watch Proleague.
Watched his games there as well and BO1 format doesn't apply at this group prediction at all.
You were talking about the matches Flash played in the last 1-2 months. Monk simply referred to PL, in which Flash lost quite a few games in the past weeks (even though it's "just" a bunch of BO1s). So it's understandable that not everyone thinks Flash is the favorite in a stacked group like this. But same thing goes for Parting and Innovation as well (and Life after losing to sOs in a final which didn't matter anyway) I guess.
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote: I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.
If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.
I think it's because of the way the group is played. Innovation will beat him in TvT and Life will beat him in ZvT - and I don't expect him to play against PartinG tbh (I'd agree with the predictions in this thread: PartinG wins the first series.)
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote: I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.
If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.
Guessing you don't watch Proleague.
Watched his games there as well and BO1 format doesn't apply at this group prediction at all.
You were talking about the matches Flash played in the last 1-2 months. Monk simply referred to PL, in which Flash lost quite a few games in the past weeks (even though it's "just" a bunch of BO1s). So it's understandable that not everyone thinks Flash is the favorite in a stacked group like this. But same thing goes for Parting and Innovation as well (and Life after losing to sOs in a final which didn't matter anyway) I guess.
Well maybe I'm a little bit biased toward Flash but from watching him play HotS so far I get the feeling he's becoming the unstoppable force he was in BW and I don't see him loosing 2 strait BO3 even in a group like this (not taking in consideration his PL stats for BO1 series). The same thing I can say for Life about loosing 2 matches in a row, but for INoVation and Parting it wouldn't surprise me as much as it would for those 2. This group sure is unpredictable and anything can happen but it makes me sad because 2/4 will not be in the RO8 and all of them are the cream of the crop SC2 has to offer now.
I think Life is favored against Parting, but it depends largely on how their mind games work out so there is very high variance.
Innovation shows excellent gameplay, but has failed numerous times in high profile series.
I'm not completely impressed by Life's macro play either, I think he's a little too dependent on timings to match up versus Flash and Innovation in a straight up battle, especially with the advantage terran has vs zerg.
I think that Flash is good at series preparation, but he has not done well in proleague lately (and both Innovation and Parting lost some games recently too).
So my predictions: Parting > Life Flash > Innovation
The thing i look forward too the most in this group is watching as Parting drops out in last place with a face full of regret and depression. Only then will I be happy.
Thank you for the write up, but I thought by now we were past the Kespa vs ESF thing. The better player wins, that's really all there is to it. There are good ESF and there are good Kespa players...
On May 02 2013 07:19 Jacmert wrote: The Group of Life & Death. Bring it on!
Life > Parting Innovation > Flash Life > Innovation Parting > Flash Innovation > Parting
I don't think Flash is looking as dominant as people assume. He's 1-4 in Proleague in the last 5 matches, or something like that. I really want to see Parting take him down, if they do meet. And I think Innovation is a more solid player atm compared to Flash.
My head says Life & Innovation, but my heart wants Parting & Life. Anything can happen, though.
He's more or less slumping in PL. But in RO32 of Code S, he 2-0'ed B4 and Soulkey and advanced nice and quick. While they're not Terran/Toss/Life opponents. I think Flash has a chance to advance albeit small. It really could go to anyone here, this is such an absurd group.
Too much Life hype. He's not invincible and he didn't win 5 major titles. He only won 1 GSL code S. You can't compare those tournaments with OSL or MSL. If you do that then Flash has over 10 major titles lol. This is the first time Flash encounter Life in a real tournament stage where he had time to prepare.
this is so fucking epic, who cares about the rest of the groups, this is like witnessing the birth of an elephant (no pun intended); life and flash are going to clash, and somewhere a virgin will give birth to the anti-tastosis, who will dominate SC3
but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa.
WP sir WP
my 1st pick 100% has to be life, my 2nd pick.. thats a bit more convoluted, but my gut sais parting will be able to beat both of the terran players, even though they are both top notch terrans.
Does innovation have the best proleague record for a terran? In mlg it looked like flash and innovation were nearly equals but flash is probably going with no sleep to practice for this so I think flash wins.A BO 3 though makes me think some of these guys are going down to cheese.
I feel like Flash's accomplishments are a bit more impressive than Life's, despite title counts suggesting otherwise... It just feels like the MLGs and especially the Iron Squid tournaments just don't compare 3 OSL titles and 3 MSL titles... and that's not even counting his WCG title either.
On May 02 2013 10:07 Ecstatic wrote: I feel like Flash's accomplishments are a bit more impressive than Life's, despite title counts suggesting otherwise... It just feels like the MLGs and especially the Iron Squid tournaments just don't compare 3 OSL titles and 3 MSL titles... and that's not even counting his WCG title either.
Yeah, there's no way you can compare them. There have already been almost as many MLGs in 3 years as OSLs in who knows how many years. That's not even counting GSL,IPL, Iron Squid, NASL, etc. etc.. A tournament matter a whole lot more when it's the only one.
On May 02 2013 10:07 Ecstatic wrote: I feel like Flash's accomplishments are a bit more impressive than Life's, despite title counts suggesting otherwise... It just feels like the MLGs and especially the Iron Squid tournaments just don't compare 3 OSL titles and 3 MSL titles... and that's not even counting his WCG title either.
I'm sorry, but this is a "no shit" answer. Obviously Flash's accomplishments are far greater than Life's. In BW, there were only two tournaments - MSL and OSL (WCG doesn't count, GOMTV died). Also, BW was refined to an art over a decade, which means that the skill levels were incredibly high. In SC2, WOL/HOTS is still so new that the argument can be made that the skills and tactics used right now are still very unrefined, especially in HOTS. And Flash's accomplishments in BW are not just in titles. He earned his "God" title over consistent years of doing the impossible - over 70% winrate in all 3 matchups, highest ELO peak against all races in history at one time, over 80% at one time in TvT, and creating (and winning with) incredible strategies in a game that was so well-tested that new strategies don't come up often.
You can tell I pray at the altar of Flash.
Having said that, I don't think he's going to win this group he said he'd need a year to get to the level of the top players, and while he's there, he's probably going to need more time to become THE top player, and you'll have to become the top to really survive here...
if my mind dont betrays me, i think that the first flash trophy was a GSL title, a BW gsl... in a super dificult math up against jaedong, it was amazing.
so I took a giant nap this afternoon on purpose to be able to stay up from 2 AM to whatever hour this ends - i fucked up my sleeping schedule just to witness sc2 history. I am so stoked for tonight's matches
FlaSh vs Life. FlaSh vs Life. FlaSh vs Life. FlaSh vs Life. FlaSh vs Life. It is all I can think of. It is all I can see. Not FlaSh vs Parting or FlaSh vs Innovation. It is only FlaSh vs Life. Final after final after final.
And it all comes back to me... dejavu. FlaSh vs Jaedong. Nate MSL 2009. Hana Bank MSL 2010. Korean Air OSL S2 2010. Bigfile MSL 2010. Back to back to back finals.
FlaSh... You claimed your mighty throne in BW... Now... It is time to do it again.
The best players of their respective races, Parting, the best toss? Life the best Zerg/ human Inovation the best terran Flash THE BEST MUTHER FUCKING GOD
Life and flash make it out. Life goes 4-0 Flash goes 4-2 only losing to Life Inovation goes 2-4 only beating parting Parting goes 0-4 i dont know if that is possible, but that will happen
On May 02 2013 10:43 quien wrote: if my mind dont betrays me, i think that the first flash trophy was a GSL title, a BW gsl... in a super dificult math up against jaedong, it was amazing.
On May 02 2013 08:50 p14c wrote: Too much Life hype. He's not invincible and he didn't win 5 major titles. He only won 1 GSL code S. You can't compare those tournaments with OSL or MSL. If you do that then Flash has over 10 major titles lol. This is the first time Flash encounter Life in a real tournament stage where he had time to prepare.
On May 02 2013 10:43 quien wrote: if my mind dont betrays me, i think that the first flash trophy was a GSL title, a BW gsl... in a super dificult math up against jaedong, it was amazing.
btw... GO FLASH!
incorrect, flash was 3-0'd by jaedong.
in the first gsl invitational he defeated jaedong in the ro8 and stork in the finals... i thought it was the other way. but his games vs jaedong were amazing anyway. with a spectacular comeback vs guardians in one of the games.
Parting you cocky cock, you just wrote your own obituary. Seeing as Parting can't beat either of these terrans (he's already tried), I think he'll go out last.
Innovation and Flash is virtually a coinflip, but lately God looks mortal while Innovation doesn't appear to be human. I'd give him the benefit of an extra 1% to get out of this madness alive, but Flash isn't far behind.
Predictions are a fool's errand since these players are all so godly, but I'll still bite:
I think the people who underestimate Flash are in for a treat. Today I fully expect Flash to do one of his stronger and more dominant performances in recent years.
Flash made a big step forward already with ro16. Even god cant compet death, he has no chance (exept miracle). Innovation is a code S player he may go throught. Life is just simply better he will go throught. Parting is the outsider.
Anyway, this group is the most incredible one in GSL history, can't wait <3
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
All I can say is if anyone is the least favored here, even by the smallest most miniscule degree, i think it has to be parting. that said, it's anyone's group, with life having the edge. Hard to see any of these players drop so early though
On May 02 2013 11:32 TidusX.Yuna wrote: "but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa"
I laughed
It was good but was begging for a Hong-Un reference.
He hasn;t been in the GSL for 2 years and he still is probably rivals with everyone in this group.
Flash and Life to move on. Parting's soul train will never reach it's full Life. Bogus fears Flash in TvT in the minds of these players Flash is 1-0 up already.
Flash will upset Life in a nailbiting 2-1 Life wakes up and kills who ever comes up next.
Cannot wait to see Parting eat all his big words. And Innovation vs Flash TvT is probably going to be some craziest game of the year. The only concern here is their stamina. Usually TvT can drag out quite long
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
I think chances are great, that one of the two, who come out of this group will win this season. Sadly, I think it's impossible for me to predict the results of this group. It's just so close with all of these players, except for Life, being some of my personal favourites. Too bad I can't watch this live.
This is the strongest and most exciting group in the history of SC2, and I'm gonna miss it. Stupid work ><.
My head voted for Innovation and Life, but my heart and anticipation votes both went to Life and Flash. And all of that is in a group with PartinG. How ridiculous.
PartinG has been a magnificent mongoloid by offering us this group, he's bound to regret it. I believe Bogus is too good at this game not to go through, and it would be unreasonable to bet against life, so my guess goes to these two. I really really really hope Flash and Bogus make it though.
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
Group B is a matter of Life or Death. If you blink, you will be Parting from the main stage, realizing that your chance to be the best was gone in a Flash! May the players with the greatest sense of SC2 Innovation advance!
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...
Scarlett does it too (defending a blue flame Hellion push with lings & drones only).
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...
I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.
Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,
On May 02 2013 18:11 Alaster wrote: Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,
On May 02 2013 18:11 Alaster wrote: Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,
Life won 2 GSL.
No he didn't check your facts, there is a mistake in the article. He has 1 GSL title.
On May 02 2013 18:11 Alaster wrote: Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,
Life won 2 GSL.
No he didn't check your facts, there is a mistake in the article. He has 1 GSL title.
No there isn't (at least not on that point). Blizzard Cup is a GSL.
On May 02 2013 18:11 Alaster wrote: Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,
Life won 2 GSL.
No he didn't check your facts, there is a mistake in the article. He has 1 GSL title.
Both Life and MMA have two GSL badges, each of them won a regular GSL season and the Blizzard Cup for their respective year. Thus, for all intents and purposes Blizzard cup counts as a GSL, and no matter what you say, you'll never be able to take away that 2nd GSL badge.
"It was a good night for Protoss players in Code A, as they went 5 - 1 overall and 4 - 0 against Zerg opponents. While some results were not surprising at all, such as (P)ST_Squirtle's romp over (Z)8th_ALBM, even the less heralded "
I thought it was LGIM-Squirtle now? ..... nice article... lol
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...
I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.
Sup, micro looked rather silly and one sided, dem Life lings
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...
I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.
Sup, micro looked rather silly and one sided, dem Life lings
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...
I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.
Sup, micro looked rather silly and one sided, dem Life lings
It did not. Harass though did
Oh yeah you don't need to micro for that, micro is a bit more complicated then A move to herass.
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
Well... You have been proven nearly completely wrong
Well.. life was ahead in both the games against PartinG after the initial ling pressure. The problem is that the counterattack caught life before he could get his tech of choice. Roaches would have solved that.. he was too greedy.
So epic. Innovation is so innovation! There are spores and spines everywhere. Look for crazy places to drop. Widow mines and bait. Immortal HELLLIONS!!!!
On May 02 2013 07:04 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote: Certainly he’ll exchange banter with Parting in trash talk and he’ll acknowledge Flash as a player, but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa.
Oh man, I lose stuchiu, I simply lose. Great write-up!
On May 02 2013 22:36 firsty wrote: life and flash sux at sc2
There is no need to bash good players when they failed to make it out of the group. Just because they did not win does not automatically make them bad.
And yeah, I can quite confidently state that you suck at spelling, because even with the help of a spell checker (I can see the red lines underlining "sux" you've managed to suck at spelling.
Oh yes, and you failed to use "sux" in the right context. Given that you're using Life and Flash as a collective, it should have been used as "suck" and not "sucks", although it's baffling me right now as to how you'd go about spelling that.
On May 02 2013 22:36 firsty wrote: life and flash sux at sc2
There is no need to bash good players when they failed to make it out of the group. Just because they did not win does not automatically make them bad.
And yeah, I can quite confidently state that you suck at spelling, because even with the help of a spell checker (I can see the red lines underlining "sux" you've managed to suck at spelling.
Oh yes, and you failed to use "sux" in the right context. Given that you're using Life and Flash as a collective, it should have been used as "suck" and not "sucks", although it's baffling me right now as to how you'd go about spelling that.
Pretty sure you took that comment way too seriously.
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote: Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.
Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.
Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.
Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.
Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.
Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset. Life>Innovation --- EGPZ Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again. Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.
Flash and Parting advance!
From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...
I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.
Sup, micro looked rather silly and one sided, dem Life lings
Sup? Better luck next WCS, Life... As long as Parting doesn't get to pick you again.
I should apologize though to Innovation fans, as I said I haven't been following closely lately, and it appears he's gotten a lot better.
You know, the predictions from the TL writers were right except that they predicted Parting > Life and then Life > Parting when it actually was Life > Parting and then Parting > Life.
With the exception of that one reversal, their prediction was accurate.
On May 02 2013 07:13 Emzeeshady wrote: How the fuck was Sniper the king of BL/Infestor
He went Muta/Ling/Bane more then almost any Zerg and often went Ultralisk in the lategame. I know everyone hates Sniper for beating their favourite players but making stuff up is still wrong.
It is about time the poor guy got some credit. He won a GSL, has done extremely well for MVP in IPL and GSTL and has shown an outstanding level of gameplay.
Went muta/ling/bane more than almost any Zerg? Sniper was not DRG / Life.
On May 02 2013 22:36 firsty wrote: life and flash sux at sc2
There is no need to bash good players when they failed to make it out of the group. Just because they did not win does not automatically make them bad.
And yeah, I can quite confidently state that you suck at spelling, because even with the help of a spell checker (I can see the red lines underlining "sux" you've managed to suck at spelling.
Oh yes, and you failed to use "sux" in the right context. Given that you're using Life and Flash as a collective, it should have been used as "suck" and not "sucks", although it's baffling me right now as to how you'd go about spelling that.
Pretty sure you took that comment way too seriously.
It's obvious they don't "suck at SC2"
I'm quite the serious guy. I take some things seriously.