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[WCS KR] Ro16 Group B Preview/Code A Recap (S1)

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May 1st, 2013 22:04 GMT

2013 GSL Season 2

WCS Korea Season 1 - GSL




Challenger League
Ro48 Broadcast Recap


Code S Ro16: Group B
Preview: PartinG, Flash, Innovation, Flash


Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Challenger League
Ro48 Recap

by Waxangel.

Results from Live Report Thread by Shellshock1122.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
FanTaSy vs. Solar
(T)FanTaSy <Red City> (Z)Solar
(T)FanTaSy <Akilon Wastes> (Z)Solar
(T)FanTaSy <Daybreak> (Z)Solar

(T)FanTaSy wins 2-1!

Sniper vs. Trap
(Z)Sniper <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Trap
(Z)Sniper <Star Station> (P)Trap
(Z)Sniper <Akilon Wastes> (P)Trap

(P)Trap wins 2-1!

Noblesse vs. Golden
(T)Noblesse <Red City> (Z)Golden
(T)Noblesse <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)Golden
(T)Noblesse <Atlas> (Z)Golden

(Z)Golden wins 2-0!

Squirtle vs. ALBM
(P)Squirtle <Akilon Wastes> (Z)ALBM
(P)Squirtle <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)ALBM
(P)Squirtle <Red City> (Z)ALBM

(P)Squirtle wins 2-0!



EffOrt vs. Hack
(Z)EffOrt <Daybreak> (T)Hack
(Z)EffOrt <Star Station> (T)Hack
(Z)EffOrt <Atlas> (T)Hack

(Z)EffOrt wins 2-1!

MarineKing vs. San
(T)MarineKing <Atlas> (P)San
(T)MarineKing <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)San
(T)MarineKing <Akilon Wastes> (P)San

(T)MarineKing wins 2-1!

Avenge vs. Hydra
(P)Avenge <Atlas> (Z)Hydra
(P)Avenge <Akilon Wastes> (Z)Hydra
(P)Avenge <Daybreak> (Z)Hydra

(P)Avenge wins 2-1!

JangBi vs. ByuL
(P)JangBi <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)ByuL
(P)JangBi <Daybreak> (Z)ByuL
(P)JangBi <Whirlwind> (Z)ByuL

(P)JangBi wins 2-1!


Well, this is awkward. In another unexpected change in the new WCS system, scheduling has worked out so the newly dubbed "Challenger League" (formerly known as Code A) won't actually have all of its games streamed. While we'll surely all be busy sending GomTV angry emails demanding that the off-air games be shown at a later date, why not read a short recap of the action so far in the meanwhile?

Protoss > Zerg

It was a good night for Protoss players in Code A, as they went 5 - 1 overall and 4 - 0 against Zerg opponents. While some results were not surprising at all, such as (P)LG-IM_Squirtle's romp over (Z)8th_ALBM, even the less heralded Protoss players got their due as (P)STX_Trap took down (Z)MVP.Sniper and (P)ST_Avenge scored a big upset over (Z)CJ_Hydra. For long suffering Protoss fans, there was a sense of poetic justice in the match between Sniper and Trap, and Trap took the deciding game with a creative Skytoss "rush" against former king of brood lord-infestor in WoL.

OSL Champions > Not-OSL Champions

Alongside Terran, Protoss, and Zerg, there was a fourth race of players competing on the night, that rare group known as OnGameNet Starleague Champions. (T)SKT_FanTaSy, (P)Samsung_JangBi, and (Z)CJ_EffOrt all won their matches, meaning that next season Flash might not be the only member of the OSL-Champions-in-WCS-Premier-League club.

The advancement of these three champions is of particular interest because of the timing of this season. The next WCS Season in Korea will be run by OnGameNet, which has kept the "Starleague" name the same way the GSL has kept the "Code S" name when they host WCS. OnGameNet and long time OnGameNet fans would like nothing better than to see five or more past OSL champs come together in the first HotS Starleague, and they'll be watching the paths of these past champions carefully.

KepsA (3 - 2) eSF

There were five KeSPA vs. eSF matches on the night, and the results mirrored the current Code S season with KeSPA coming out with a small lead. Effort, JangBi, and Trap scored the wins for KeSPA, while Avenge and Squirtle protected the pride of the federation. However, the Challenger League is still wide open for either side to take, with eight KeSPA vs. eSF matches remaining to be played off air in the Ro48.

Code S Ro16 - Group B Preview

by stuchiu

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art by Petad_

The Elite Four: (P)SKT_PartinG, (Z)ST_Life, (T)STX_INnoVation, (T)KT_Flash


Welcome to the strongest group ever formed in the history of SC2. It all started with some old-fashioned smack talk between Parting and Life in the Ro32, with the once Startale Protoss calling Life an easy opponent, and one that was merely lucky to have played zerg in WoL. Life responded by saying that Parting’s skill level not even high enough to reach his feet. This led to an inevitable game of chicken in the ro16 group nominations as neither player wanted to back down from the other, causing non-stop escalatio of outrageously strong player picks until these four players ended up in one group. You could hear Mr. Chae's anguish on the mic as he asked the players to think about the poor, poor tournament organizers as well, but his pleas fell on deaf ears.

Now we have a group of four of the strongest players in the world. All four players players have been hailed as the best of their respective races. All four players want the championship. All four believe that they will completely and utterly dominate the group. But only two can survive. Welcome to the group of death.

The Soul Train

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it’s a goddamn train. Here we are again with (P)SKT_PartinG bearing the hopes of Protoss race. Yes, sOs may be the up and coming prince of Protoss, but for now the throne belongs to Parting. He is the one that the other Protosses look to lead them out of the darkness and to the holy land of a GSL championship. With Zerg and Terran players closing in on all sides and slowly squeezing the Protoss race out of the GSL, it will be up to Parting to save the Protoss race. If this all sounds familiar it’s because this is the exact scenario in which Parting made his major breakthrough last year, when he went on a strong end of the year run to win WCS and WCG. He even made it to the finals of the Blizzard Cup and was about to stand on top of the SC2 world, only to be cut down by his own teammate Life.

Life the child-prodigy, Life the royal roader, Life the player to break the ST curse, Life the boy-king. Parting could no longer stand in the shadow of Life so he cashed in on his skill and championship resume to switch teams to SKT1. From there Parting got revenge on his former teammate in the first season of 2013 GSL by picking Life for his group and knocking him out in the ro16. It was supposed to be his time, Parting seemed destined to finally win a GSL. But Startale had other plans and denied him his glory as Curious would smash him 3-0 in the Ro8.

Now here we are in the first HotS GSL and Parting has concocted the strongest group possible. And while Parting slumped a bit against Terran in MLG, it has been more than a month since then. He has gotten used to the medivac and has had time to adjust to the new world of PvT. And among Protosses, Parting is probably the absolute best when it comes to execution and mind games. While not as completely intellectual in his Protoss play like Squirtle or Rain, he is still one of the absolute smartest players on the planet and the only Protoss I can see with a real chance of making it out of this group. It will all come down to one thing for Parting. Does he have the soul to take on the 3 other greatest players in the world? When asked the only response he gave was:

"Choo Choo, muhfukkas!!"

The Group of Life and Death

Where the other players in the group can lay claim to being the best players of their race, only (Z)ST_Life can make the claim of being the best player in the world. His victory over Mvp half an year ago was the changing of the guard and Life inherited the earth. Since then Life has won 2 MLGs, 2 GSLs and 1 Iron Squid completing the world triple crown in less than a year since his first GSL appearance. He has made a new world order putting himself at the top and everyone else below him. All the world shook as Life battled the best players of the era in grand finals: Mvp, Leenock, DRG, Parting, Flash. None defeated him.

While many players have developed rivalries with Life, Life has barely acknowledged any of his rivals. Certainly he’ll exchange banter with Parting in trash talk and he’ll acknowledge Flash as a player, but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa. So Life should be going into this with a clearer mind than Parting and Flash as he has nothing to prove. He’s already proven he can beat them when it counts the most and Life will probably go into this group like he does in all of his matches, with complete and utter confidence.

In addition to his mindset, Life has incredibly strong series mentality, often able to gain the advantage in the mind games and keep it even if the series goes long. And the most dangerous aspect about Life is simply put, he is the best zerg in the world with only Leenock being comparable. This makes it nearly impossible for the other players to prepare for him with training partners, while Life can still play old friend Squirtle to prepare for Parting and Bomber for the Terrans. The only thing certain about Life’s play is that he can do anything at any time and do it better than anyone else. Even when Life is in dire straits, the pressure seems to make him play even better, which has fueled him to make comeback after comeback. Best of all for Life, none of his opponents are Zergs. While Parting, Innovation and Flash are three of the best players in the world, Life’s tournaments runs have only ever been stopped in ZvZs.

The Greatest Terran in the World

With Mvp vacating his throne for WCS EU, the Terran throne has become empty in Korea leading to a mad scramble to decide who would become the new leader of the Korean Terrans. After MLG and GSL, there are only two candidates left for that title. The first is (T)STX_INnoVation, Tastosis' most beloved player since Nestea left for WCS USA. It’s well deserved for Innovation, as while he doesn’t have the results of the rest of the players in the group, his skills are certainly their equal.

Unlike the rest of the players in this group, his story started out with very inauspiciously. Much like Mvp, he was just a mid-tier Terran from Brood War, except that he had even less results and a less ambitious ID in 'Bogus.' He was a solid player, but not someone that was in the upper echelons of Brood War. But something happened on the day of July 24th, 2012. On July 24th, Bogus played his last official game of BW at Yongsan. On that day, the player known as Bogus died, and his spirit drifted on to haunt the KR ladder. Not much is known about those months other than the wanderer MajOr met this spirit on the ladder, and became his first prophet. From there, the legend begin to spread with these famous words, “Bogus, man. Bogus.” After 4 months of training and meditation, he was ready to come back into the world on November 5th, 2012. On that day he was reincarnated, and he christened himself with a new name: Innovation.

Innovation would then take on GSL by storm, destroying Code A and easily making it out of the group stages in every Code S he has been a part of. With so many games played, one thing became clear. Innovation was a step above the rest. There no one thing special about him. He just played the standard Terran style better, than anyone with better macro, micro, timings and decision making than the rest. Here was the final form of Terran made flesh, here was Innovation. No gimmicks, no tricks, no cheese, just pure raw strength and skill. While that may hurt him later on in the play off stages, it has always gotten him through the group stages and for Innovation, that is all that matters.

Sooner or later, God’ll cut you down

Coming in last to the sound of cherubs blowing trumpets and seals breaking, we have the other player who contends to be the best Terran in the world. (T)KT_Flash, the God of Brood War and KeSPA's greatest champion. While Kespa has had more successful players in SC2 like Rain and Roro, it is Flash that everyone thinks of when the Kespa teams are brought up. Flash is the one everyone expected to dominate the scene when it's all said and done. And unlike the rest of TBLS (Bisu, Stork, Flash, Jaedong), Flash has delivered. While the other three of have been exiled to either Code B or WCS NA, Flash has been making a run on the royal road.

For Flash this is an incredibly important season. It has been one year and one expansion since the switch. One year being moderated to Code A, one year of practice, one year to prepare for this one moment. For fans, this is the moment. This is the stage where everything will come to a head. Flash against the very best in the world. And more importantly Flash against Life.

Now known as neo-LeeSsangRok, a new age rivalry has developed between Flash and Life due to their numerous encounters at MLG. It is a battle that no one can look away from, and one where everyone must choose a side: Kespa vs. ESF, the young prodigy vs. the even younger prodigy, God vs. the most defiant man, Pocari Sweat vs. Red Bull. The parallels between the two are numerous. Both won their first championship at the young age of 15. Flash dominated BW with 6 major individual titles, Life already has 5.

But the facts tell the real tale. While their games with each other are very intense, the end results are decidedly one sided with Life winning favored head to head with a score of 10-5 in maps, and more importantly 3 - 0 in series. (2 MLGs and one Asian Martial arts).

For Flash, Life is the problem. He is the one obstacle that Flash must clear if he wishes to become the greatest in the world. Flash has already beaten Parting before, he’s already defeated Innovation. And while those two are are both very strong players that can beat Flash, only Life has denied him victory again and again. No matter how long it takes God will not be satisfied until he gets his revenge. Even if Life wins again here, Flash will make the message clear. Sooner or later, God will cut you down.

Overall Predictions

No player has a better chance to advance than any other. No matter how you think on it, any player can advance. But it seems impossible that one of them could ever drop two straight series. And yet it must happen. In a group like this, anything goes and your guess is as good as mine.

Parting > Life
Innovation > Flash
Innovation > Parting
Life > Flash
Life > Parting

Innovation and Life advance.


Writers: stuchiu and Waxangel.
Graphics: Shiroiusagi
Editor: Waxangel.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 01 2013 22:08 GMT
#2
Poll: Head?

Life & Flash (477)
 
32%

Life & INnoVation (434)
 
29%

INnoVation & Flash (190)
 
13%

PartinG & INnoVation (152)
 
10%

PartinG & Life (141)
 
9%

PartinG & Flash (117)
 
8%

1511 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): PartinG & Life
(Vote): PartinG & INnoVation
(Vote): PartinG & Flash
(Vote): Life & INnoVation
(Vote): Life & Flash
(Vote): INnoVation & Flash


Poll: Heart?

Life & Flash (444)
 
36%

INnoVation & Flash (242)
 
20%

PartinG & Life (187)
 
15%

PartinG & Flash (167)
 
14%

Life & INnoVation (108)
 
9%

PartinG & INnoVation (71)
 
6%

1219 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): PartinG & Life
(Vote): PartinG & INnoVation
(Vote): PartinG & Flash
(Vote): Life & INnoVation
(Vote): Life & Flash
(Vote): INnoVation & Flash


Poll: Most anticipated matchup?

Flash vs. Life (530)
 
50%

Life vs. INnoVation (223)
 
21%

Life vs. PartinG (166)
 
16%

Flash vs. INnoVation (91)
 
9%

Flash vs. PartinG (27)
 
3%

INnoVation vs. PartinG (19)
 
2%

1056 total votes

Your vote: Most anticipated matchup?

(Vote): Life vs. INnoVation
(Vote): Flash vs. Life
(Vote): Flash vs. INnoVation
(Vote): Life vs. PartinG
(Vote): Flash vs. PartinG
(Vote): INnoVation vs. PartinG



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ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 01 2013 22:08 GMT
#3
The Soul Train

The Group of Life and Death

Sooner or later, God’ll cut you down




The Greatest Terran in the World

I like how blunt Innovation's title is
Refer to my post.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 01 2013 22:13 GMT
#4
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 01 2013 22:13 GMT
#5
Kespa v ESF is shown 2-3, but you say 3-2...fyi

Life > death.
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 22:15:35
May 01 2013 22:14 GMT
#6
When does the Group of Death play?

Be nice if that was included in the article.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
May 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#7
Kespa v esf is 2-3 but it should be the other way.
The heart's eternal vow
Homework
Profile Joined December 2010
United States283 Posts
May 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#8
I don't even know what is going to happen. The most unpredictable, stacked group in the history of the GSL.
See you at 2:00
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#9
Parting beating Life is a damn bold statement..
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#10
On May 02 2013 07:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
When does the Group of Death play?

Be nice if that was included in the article.

Starts in
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#11
On May 02 2013 07:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
When does the Group of Death play?

Be nice if that was included in the article.

TL calendar is on the right
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#12
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KaRath_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
May 01 2013 22:18 GMT
#13
Depends on whether Flash's TvT has improved or not, otherwise Innovation would probably advance alongside Life. But I never bet against God, so Flash and Life it is
I wasted my nights, you turned out the lights, now I'm paralysed, still stuck in that time...
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 01 2013 22:18 GMT
#14
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ViceZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States42 Posts
May 01 2013 22:19 GMT
#15
Brilliant write-up by stuchiu, comedic and yet oddly accurate.

Can't wait for the best SC2 has to offer, I'm going with Flash and Innovation, the Artosis curse will be broken.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
May 01 2013 22:19 GMT
#16
The Group of Life & Death. Bring it on!

Life > Parting
Innovation > Flash
Life > Innovation
Parting > Flash
Innovation > Parting

I don't think Flash is looking as dominant as people assume. He's 1-4 in Proleague in the last 5 matches, or something like that. I really want to see Parting take him down, if they do meet. And I think Innovation is a more solid player atm compared to Flash.

My head says Life & Innovation, but my heart wants Parting & Life. Anything can happen, though.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 22:28:19
May 01 2013 22:19 GMT
#17
On May 02 2013 07:17 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
When does the Group of Death play?

Be nice if that was included in the article.

TL calendar is on the right


Yes it is. But I got all excited about the group, and then had to search around to figure out when they would play. Unlike the [WCS AM] or [WCS EU], it was under [CODE S] in the calendar, I figured it would be under [WCS KR]. And the author apparently thought so too, and titled the article with [WCS KR], furthering my confusion! You guys should fix that too, and label everything the same.

It is also pretty standard for previews in other sports to give us the time.

The same way it is included in say... this preview of the upcoming game between the Boston Celtics and NY Knicks that I am about to watch... check it out:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/smith-back-knicks-try-again-oust-celtics-220730569.html
Arctyrus
Profile Joined June 2012
Denmark77 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 22:38:20
May 01 2013 22:20 GMT
#18
I'm supposed to be studying hard for exams, but I've gotta take a break to watch all of these games!

EDIT: Excellent write up! Some good humour in there (:
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
Anuzi
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
192 Posts
May 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#19
Great preview! Really enjoyed reading it.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#20
Dear GSL:
Best of 7's for tonight group.

Signed The Fans
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
May 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#21
Weirdly enough I somehow so life feeling. I feel like tomorrow, both flash and innovation will be able to beat him (just because Terran), or maybe it's just that I am hoping that this will happen.
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 22:27:23
May 01 2013 22:26 GMT
#22
Honestly, I consider Flash a favorite against innovation. Then again who the hell knows anything about this group. All of these players dont just make mistakes, you have to force them. And one mistake is not going to be enough to close a game out, not today. Whether its mindgames, macro, micro or all of them together, we are going to see starcraft II at its highest level since the beta of WoL. There is too much pride on the line for it to be any different
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
May 01 2013 22:26 GMT
#23
This is gonna be a day for everyone to remember folks. I say it a lot, but if ever I meant it, now would be the time.

GET

MOTHER FUCKING

HYPEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KT FlaSh FOREVER
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
May 01 2013 22:27 GMT
#24
Epic final paragraphs about Flash. Prediction: Flash gets knocked out 0-2. Haha nice.
IhateBunkers
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand78 Posts
May 01 2013 22:28 GMT
#25
This is probably the best write on a group preview I have ever read. The humor was an excellent touch and the references were even better.

Nice write up and how deserving it is for the strongest group to possibly be played in GSL.
Leenock------SuperNova------HerO------YongHwa
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
May 01 2013 22:30 GMT
#26
Parting < Life
Innovation > Flash
Innovation > Life
Parting < Flash
Life < Flash

Innovation and Flash advance.

Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
May 01 2013 22:30 GMT
#27
I laughed so hard at the Inca v. Detection line. Life fighting tonight!!!!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
May 01 2013 22:31 GMT
#28
On May 02 2013 07:13 Emzeeshady wrote:
How the fuck was Sniper the king of BL/Infestor

He went Muta/Ling/Bane more then almost any Zerg and often went Ultralisk in the lategame. I know everyone hates Sniper for beating their favourite players but making stuff up is still wrong.

It is about time the poor guy got some credit. He won a GSL, has done extremely well for MVP in IPL and GSTL and has shown an outstanding level of gameplay.


Yeah, but he also made Slayers_Eve cry...

bastard.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 22:32:47
May 01 2013 22:32 GMT
#29
On May 02 2013 07:31 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:13 Emzeeshady wrote:
How the fuck was Sniper the king of BL/Infestor

He went Muta/Ling/Bane more then almost any Zerg and often went Ultralisk in the lategame. I know everyone hates Sniper for beating their favourite players but making stuff up is still wrong.

It is about time the poor guy got some credit. He won a GSL, has done extremely well for MVP in IPL and GSTL and has shown an outstanding level of gameplay.


Yeah, but he also made Slayers_Eve cry...

bastard.

The unforgivable curse.

May he step on many Legos barefoot.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
May 01 2013 22:33 GMT
#30
I'lL go with Life and Innovation. It all comes down to the TvT imo.
And yeah, I agree with Emzeeshady. Sniper's legit and didn't rely too heavily on BL - Infestor, so no need to "crown" him.
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 22:34:46
May 01 2013 22:34 GMT
#31
On May 02 2013 07:24 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Dear GSL:
Best of 7's for tonight group.

Signed The Fans


Bo7? We want Bo9's. :D

LETS GO LIFE + FLASH.
energized
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia117 Posts
May 01 2013 22:35 GMT
#32
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote:
I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.

If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.
"Energy never dies..."
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 01 2013 22:37 GMT
#33
On May 02 2013 07:35 energized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote:
I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.

If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.

Guessing you don't watch Proleague.
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
May 01 2013 22:37 GMT
#34
I am a believer FLash is going to 4-0 the group
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
IMlemon
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Lithuania296 Posts
May 01 2013 22:37 GMT
#35
Bogus was way better than MVP at broodwar. Just saying~
My future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
energized
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia117 Posts
May 01 2013 22:39 GMT
#36
On May 02 2013 07:37 monk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:35 energized wrote:
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote:
I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.

If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.

Guessing you don't watch Proleague.

Watched his games there as well and BO1 format doesn't apply at this group prediction at all.
"Energy never dies..."
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
May 01 2013 22:39 GMT
#37
On May 02 2013 07:37 IMlemon wrote:
Bogus was way better than MVP at broodwar. Just saying~


Bogus was very inconsistent, that's all. He was pretty damn good nontheless
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
May 01 2013 22:40 GMT
#38
After MLG and GSL, there are only two candidates left for that title.

Yoda won IEM and is also in Ro16.
Bomber already qualified for Ro8.
Gumiho finished 1st in Innovation's Ro32 group.
Just saying...
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
May 01 2013 22:40 GMT
#39
of all the groups i have to miss this one
can i get my estro logo back pls
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
May 01 2013 22:42 GMT
#40
^^ WHY WORK, WHY
its not long but ill still miss part of it, and very likely its the winners match
kYem
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom412 Posts
May 01 2013 22:43 GMT
#41
"detection does for InCa"

Pure gold, poor InCa
Hell
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 01 2013 22:45 GMT
#42
The astronomical hype is really making me expect this not to live up to expectations.

Hope I'm wrong :p
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 22:47:29
May 01 2013 22:45 GMT
#43
On May 02 2013 07:39 energized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:37 monk wrote:
On May 02 2013 07:35 energized wrote:
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote:
I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.

If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.

Guessing you don't watch Proleague.

Watched his games there as well and BO1 format doesn't apply at this group prediction at all.


You were talking about the matches Flash played in the last 1-2 months. Monk simply referred to PL, in which Flash lost quite a few games in the past weeks (even though it's "just" a bunch of BO1s).
So it's understandable that not everyone thinks Flash is the favorite in a stacked group like this. But same thing goes for Parting and Innovation as well (and Life after losing to sOs in a final which didn't matter anyway) I guess.

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 22:48:35
May 01 2013 22:48 GMT
#44
On May 02 2013 07:17 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
When does the Group of Death play?

Be nice if that was included in the article.

Starts in

I'm glad me using a countdown in the dreamhack day 2 thread after seeing opterown use it on day 1 continues to spread :D
hooray fads
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Herzog
Profile Joined April 2013
Italy23 Posts
May 01 2013 22:52 GMT
#45
This will be insane.
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
May 01 2013 22:55 GMT
#46
I wonder if Inca is happy to be mentioned in the same breath as these guys, or sad that it is a joke at his expense... damn you detection!!!!
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
May 01 2013 22:58 GMT
#47
On May 02 2013 07:35 energized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote:
I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.

If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.


I think it's because of the way the group is played.
Innovation will beat him in TvT and Life will beat him in ZvT - and I don't expect him to play against PartinG tbh (I'd agree with the predictions in this thread: PartinG wins the first series.)
jacobj
Profile Joined August 2012
1 Post
May 01 2013 22:59 GMT
#48
I just wanna know why our posts say it's May 2 in the US..
energized
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 23:03:45
May 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#49
On May 02 2013 07:45 WhX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:39 energized wrote:
On May 02 2013 07:37 monk wrote:
On May 02 2013 07:35 energized wrote:
On May 02 2013 07:17 Emzeeshady wrote:
I would be very surprised if Flash made it through. It is a Toss up between the other 3 imo.

If anything it will be surprise if Parting make it through. I don't get why so many put Flash last like they didn't watch any of his games for the past 1-2 month.

Guessing you don't watch Proleague.

Watched his games there as well and BO1 format doesn't apply at this group prediction at all.


You were talking about the matches Flash played in the last 1-2 months. Monk simply referred to PL, in which Flash lost quite a few games in the past weeks (even though it's "just" a bunch of BO1s).
So it's understandable that not everyone thinks Flash is the favorite in a stacked group like this. But same thing goes for Parting and Innovation as well (and Life after losing to sOs in a final which didn't matter anyway) I guess.


Well maybe I'm a little bit biased toward Flash but from watching him play HotS so far I get the feeling he's becoming the unstoppable force he was in BW and I don't see him loosing 2 strait BO3 even in a group like this (not taking in consideration his PL stats for BO1 series).
The same thing I can say for Life about loosing 2 matches in a row, but for INoVation and Parting it wouldn't surprise me as much as it would for those 2.
This group sure is unpredictable and anything can happen but it makes me sad because 2/4 will not be in the RO8 and all of them are the cream of the crop SC2 has to offer now.
"Energy never dies..."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 01 2013 23:02 GMT
#50
On May 02 2013 07:59 jacobj wrote:
I just wanna know why our posts say it's May 2 in the US..

post time is in Korean Standard Time
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Cronosis
Profile Joined June 2012
United States3 Posts
May 01 2013 23:04 GMT
#51
You can't be serious....Innovation over Flash?.....Flash is gonna destroy him again like he did at MLG.
"All those moments will be lost.....like tears...in the rain..."
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 01 2013 23:05 GMT
#52
I think Parting can do this. He has to prepare his PvT though. Life is also no pushover.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 23:10:20
May 01 2013 23:10 GMT
#53
Where's the gif that goes, "this is madness, no this is group b"?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 01 2013 23:10 GMT
#54
What the fucking fuck...
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 01 2013 23:15 GMT
#55
It pains me greatly that I can't watch this live. -_-; GO FLASH!!!
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 01 2013 23:15 GMT
#56
I think Life is favored against Parting, but it depends largely on how their mind games work out so there is very high variance.

Innovation shows excellent gameplay, but has failed numerous times in high profile series.

I'm not completely impressed by Life's macro play either, I think he's a little too dependent on timings to match up versus Flash and Innovation in a straight up battle, especially with the advantage terran has vs zerg.

I think that Flash is good at series preparation, but he has not done well in proleague lately (and both Innovation and Parting lost some games recently too).

So my predictions:
Parting > Life
Flash > Innovation

Flash > Parting
Innovation > Life

Innovation > Parting
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
BasicBarcode
Profile Joined May 2011
United States56 Posts
May 01 2013 23:17 GMT
#57
The thing i look forward too the most in this group is watching as Parting drops out in last place with a face full of regret and depression. Only then will I be happy.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
May 01 2013 23:19 GMT
#58
I am so going to work tomorrow with very little sleep because of this, and I couldn't be happier, time to pre-roll the doobies.
eddwaan
Profile Joined March 2013
18 Posts
May 01 2013 23:21 GMT
#59
i believe in God and Life.
LGIMMvp :D
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 01 2013 23:22 GMT
#60
Thank you for the write up, but I thought by now we were past the Kespa vs ESF thing. The better player wins, that's really all there is to it. There are good ESF and there are good Kespa players...
Get off my lawn, young punks
MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 23:29:10
May 01 2013 23:23 GMT
#61
"detection does for InCa" bwahaha

also this has to be the most stacked group Ive ever seen in sc2. so hyped! Good write up as usual too.
"Roses are red, QoP is blue, Anti-Mage is imba, so fuck you." Startale_Life | SKT_Bisu Hwaiting!
Iwik
Profile Joined March 2013
57 Posts
May 01 2013 23:28 GMT
#62
i freaking love parting for these kinds of stunts... i mean, im sad two of these badasses will be eliminated, but im still hyped as hell to watch this

gogo pocari sweat
i admit there was a time in my life that i thought that putting my birthday in my username was cool
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 01 2013 23:28 GMT
#63
I'm feeling innovation and life but I really want parting to advance
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
May 01 2013 23:30 GMT
#64
On May 02 2013 07:24 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Dear GSL:
Best of 7's for tonight group.

Signed The Fans

Seriously! If they made all of the matches Bo5, we could just stop watching the rest of Code S right here!
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
May 01 2013 23:34 GMT
#65
Just curious: where are the images of the players from?
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 01 2013 23:35 GMT
#66
On May 02 2013 07:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:17 Prplppleatr wrote:
On May 02 2013 07:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
When does the Group of Death play?

Be nice if that was included in the article.

Starts in

I'm glad me using a countdown in the dreamhack day 2 thread after seeing opterown use it on day 1 continues to spread :D
hooray fads

I did steal it directly from the LR <3 opertown
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
May 01 2013 23:37 GMT
#67
On May 02 2013 07:19 Jacmert wrote:
The Group of Life & Death. Bring it on!

Life > Parting
Innovation > Flash
Life > Innovation
Parting > Flash
Innovation > Parting

I don't think Flash is looking as dominant as people assume. He's 1-4 in Proleague in the last 5 matches, or something like that. I really want to see Parting take him down, if they do meet. And I think Innovation is a more solid player atm compared to Flash.

My head says Life & Innovation, but my heart wants Parting & Life. Anything can happen, though.


He's more or less slumping in PL. But in RO32 of Code S, he 2-0'ed B4 and Soulkey and advanced nice and quick. While they're not Terran/Toss/Life opponents. I think Flash has a chance to advance albeit small. It really could go to anyone here, this is such an absurd group.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#68
Life always finds a way
PsionicLord
Profile Joined June 2012
United States119 Posts
May 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#69
God made Life.... just sayin...
HerO | Taeja | Sea | TLO | Ret | WhiteRa | Leenock
RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
May 01 2013 23:40 GMT
#70
come back kid is goins to strike again
life is going to lose his first match but then he will qualifie to the ro8 no matter what !
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein
Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
May 01 2013 23:40 GMT
#71
asdfhasdfh. I'm not going to pretend to have anything articulate to say about this group. Holy shit.
''Three bottles of Monster in a day; I'm pumped as fuck." -Stephano
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 01 2013 23:46 GMT
#72
gonna be sick, looking forward to it!
Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
May 01 2013 23:48 GMT
#73
Holy .... All of these games could be the finals of any tournament!! This is gonna be so freakin awesome!
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
May 01 2013 23:50 GMT
#74
Too much Life hype. He's not invincible and he didn't win 5 major titles. He only won 1 GSL code S. You can't compare those tournaments with OSL or MSL. If you do that then Flash has over 10 major titles lol. This is the first time Flash encounter Life in a real tournament stage where he had time to prepare.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
May 01 2013 23:55 GMT
#75
this is so fucking epic, who cares about the rest of the groups, this is like witnessing the birth of an elephant (no pun intended); life and flash are going to clash, and somewhere a virgin will give birth to the anti-tastosis, who will dominate SC3

it's gonna be good
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
May 01 2013 23:55 GMT
#76
This is going to be epic. Oh man.

Oh man oh man oh man oh man.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
May 01 2013 23:56 GMT
#77
best group of death ever!
NA player, go KT Flash, ST Life( ;( ) , IMMvp, EGJD, CMStorm Polt, SKT Rain, KT Zest, Bisu, RootherO, Stats and teamliqiud
mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
May 02 2013 00:06 GMT
#78
Life > Parting
Flash > Innovation
Flash > Life
Innovation > Parting
Life>Innovation

Flash and Life move on

That is my guess... can't wait.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 02 2013 00:07 GMT
#79
Predicting:
Parting < Life
Innovation < Flash
Life > Flash
Innovation > Parting
Flash > Innovation
Iskover
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
May 02 2013 00:11 GMT
#80
Poll: Will someone 4-0 this group? (win 2-0, 2-0)

No (23)
 
62%

Yes (14)
 
38%

37 total votes

Your vote: Will someone 4-0 this group? (win 2-0, 2-0)

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

MMA | Mvp | Rain
Stye
Profile Joined September 2012
Poland40 Posts
May 02 2013 00:28 GMT
#81
This is the most historic moment in SC2 history. I have nerdchills 8 hours prior
BAAEEMM
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany412 Posts
May 02 2013 00:30 GMT
#82
I have no freakin clue who is going to advance, so I'll not make any predictions but I'm rooting for Life and Flash.

Also I fully support the idea of making the series Bo5 or Bo7 or Bo17 for that matter.

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 02 2013 00:31 GMT
#83
Oh God. Oh God you guys. Guys, it's happening. This is really happening.

Fuck work, I got a group of death to watch.
Long live the King of Wings
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
May 02 2013 00:32 GMT
#84
Life and Innovation imo

Bogie first
Life second (loses to bogie boy in winners match)
Flash third
Parting last
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Jyaki
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia170 Posts
May 02 2013 00:35 GMT
#85
Hooooh ma gad. I can't comprehend.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
May 02 2013 00:38 GMT
#86
Impossibly, I think Flash is the weakest player in this group.

I'm going with Innovation for sure.

Second place: maybe Life?
HandA711
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
202 Posts
May 02 2013 00:38 GMT
#87
Typo: It's KeSPA 3-2 eSF, not 2-3.
hakuna matata
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 02 2013 00:39 GMT
#88
                    Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Life 61.63% 32.69% 28.94% 20.96% 17.41%
PartinG 55.32% 28.18% 27.14% 23.68% 21.00%
Flash 49.44% 23.99% 25.45% 26.31% 24.25%
INnoVation 33.61% 15.14% 18.47% 29.04% 37.35%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 02 2013 00:40 GMT
#89
--- Nuked ---
RobotBodies
Profile Joined September 2010
47 Posts
May 02 2013 00:44 GMT
#90
On May 02 2013 09:39 rift wrote:
                    Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Life 61.63% 32.69% 28.94% 20.96% 17.41%
PartinG 55.32% 28.18% 27.14% 23.68% 21.00%
Flash 49.44% 23.99% 25.45% 26.31% 24.25%
INnoVation 33.61% 15.14% 18.47% 29.04% 37.35%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.



I like how flash is equally likely to get any outcome in the group
Howl41
Profile Joined September 2012
United States65 Posts
May 02 2013 00:44 GMT
#91
Gonna be a rebel and say Parting and Innovation. Haters gonna hate.
<3 Bomer/Flash/Innovation/MMA/MVP/Demuslim/Forgg/Gumiho/Lucifron/SeleCT
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 00:47:10
May 02 2013 00:45 GMT
#92
but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa.

WP sir WP

my 1st pick 100% has to be life, my 2nd pick.. thats a bit more convoluted, but my gut sais parting will be able to beat both of the terran players, even though they are both top notch terrans.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 02 2013 00:47 GMT
#93
On May 02 2013 09:38 HandA711 wrote:
Typo: It's KeSPA 3-2 eSF, not 2-3.


Also its KeSPA, not KepsA.
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
May 02 2013 00:50 GMT
#94
Does innovation have the best proleague record for a terran? In mlg it looked like flash and innovation were nearly equals but flash is probably going with no sleep to practice for this so I think flash wins.A BO 3 though makes me think some of these guys are going down to cheese.
Ecstatic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States160 Posts
May 02 2013 01:07 GMT
#95
I feel like Flash's accomplishments are a bit more impressive than Life's, despite title counts suggesting otherwise... It just feels like the MLGs and especially the Iron Squid tournaments just don't compare 3 OSL titles and 3 MSL titles... and that's not even counting his WCG title either.
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
May 02 2013 01:16 GMT
#96
My picks were the same.

TL curse might hurt me
Favorite Players: Bomber | Maru | Life | PartinG | InnoVation | Bbyong
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
May 02 2013 01:16 GMT
#97
On May 02 2013 10:07 Ecstatic wrote:
I feel like Flash's accomplishments are a bit more impressive than Life's, despite title counts suggesting otherwise... It just feels like the MLGs and especially the Iron Squid tournaments just don't compare 3 OSL titles and 3 MSL titles... and that's not even counting his WCG title either.

Yeah, there's no way you can compare them. There have already been almost as many MLGs in 3 years as OSLs in who knows how many years. That's not even counting GSL,IPL, Iron Squid, NASL, etc. etc.. A tournament matter a whole lot more when it's the only one.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
LightRain
Profile Joined March 2013
36 Posts
May 02 2013 01:21 GMT
#98
On May 02 2013 10:07 Ecstatic wrote:
I feel like Flash's accomplishments are a bit more impressive than Life's, despite title counts suggesting otherwise... It just feels like the MLGs and especially the Iron Squid tournaments just don't compare 3 OSL titles and 3 MSL titles... and that's not even counting his WCG title either.

I'm sorry, but this is a "no shit" answer. Obviously Flash's accomplishments are far greater than Life's. In BW, there were only two tournaments - MSL and OSL (WCG doesn't count, GOMTV died). Also, BW was refined to an art over a decade, which means that the skill levels were incredibly high. In SC2, WOL/HOTS is still so new that the argument can be made that the skills and tactics used right now are still very unrefined, especially in HOTS. And Flash's accomplishments in BW are not just in titles. He earned his "God" title over consistent years of doing the impossible - over 70% winrate in all 3 matchups, highest ELO peak against all races in history at one time, over 80% at one time in TvT, and creating (and winning with) incredible strategies in a game that was so well-tested that new strategies don't come up often.

You can tell I pray at the altar of Flash.

Having said that, I don't think he's going to win this group he said he'd need a year to get to the level of the top players, and while he's there, he's probably going to need more time to become THE top player, and you'll have to become the top to really survive here...
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
May 02 2013 01:22 GMT
#99
Life > Parting
Innovation > Flash
Life < Innovation
Parting < Flash
Life > Flash
Let's learn together!
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 01:27:37
May 02 2013 01:25 GMT
#100
nvm, i can't read.
philip697
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom123 Posts
May 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#101
OMG what a group.

Gutted I can't watch this. But I'm on night shift now, and will be in bed asleep when the matches are on :-( gutted!
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 02 2013 01:35 GMT
#102
I might watch this?
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 01:42:30
May 02 2013 01:41 GMT
#103
All I can say about tomorrow is
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War is coming, with all it's glory....and all it's horror
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dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
May 02 2013 01:43 GMT
#104
if my mind dont betrays me, i think that the first flash trophy was a GSL title, a BW gsl... in a super dificult math up against jaedong, it was amazing.

btw... GO FLASH!
This is the way
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
May 02 2013 01:46 GMT
#105
but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa.


ROFL. Well played stuchiu. Well played.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Gaphunkyl
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia20 Posts
May 02 2013 01:53 GMT
#106
omg, jizz! awesome awesome awesome!

GO LIFE!
Australian players, where you at!?
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 02 2013 01:53 GMT
#107
GIVE ME THAT BIG BOGUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
life please smash parting's face in lol
rip prime
xgtx
Profile Joined February 2009
227 Posts
May 02 2013 01:55 GMT
#108
"detection does for InCa "? reference?
WhiteSatin
Profile Joined December 2012
United States308 Posts
May 02 2013 02:17 GMT
#109
so I took a giant nap this afternoon on purpose to be able to stay up from 2 AM to whatever hour this ends -
i fucked up my sleeping schedule just to witness sc2 history.
I am so stoked for tonight's matches
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10146 Posts
May 02 2013 02:18 GMT
#110
FlaSh vs Life. FlaSh vs Life. FlaSh vs Life. FlaSh vs Life. FlaSh vs Life. It is all I can think of. It is all I can see. Not FlaSh vs Parting or FlaSh vs Innovation. It is only FlaSh vs Life. Final after final after final.

And it all comes back to me... dejavu. FlaSh vs Jaedong. Nate MSL 2009. Hana Bank MSL 2010. Korean Air OSL S2 2010. Bigfile MSL 2010. Back to back to back finals.

FlaSh... You claimed your mighty throne in BW... Now... It is time to do it again.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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PXEnTei
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States209 Posts
May 02 2013 02:24 GMT
#111
The best players of their respective races,
Parting, the best toss?
Life the best Zerg/ human
Inovation the best terran
Flash THE BEST MUTHER FUCKING GOD

Life and flash make it out.
Life goes 4-0
Flash goes 4-2 only losing to Life
Inovation goes 2-4 only beating parting
Parting goes 0-4
i dont know if that is possible, but that will happen
"Sue me, dickhead!" -Thor
ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
May 02 2013 02:27 GMT
#112
"or detection does for Inca" - great writing as always guys, made me snicker.
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
TidusX.Yuna
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States239 Posts
May 02 2013 02:32 GMT
#113
"but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa"

I laughed
Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality!
megid
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil142 Posts
May 02 2013 02:42 GMT
#114
Like the best players actually in the same group. Really, amazing. One important day for starcraft.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
May 02 2013 02:43 GMT
#115
Oh my, another sleepless night!
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
May 02 2013 02:51 GMT
#116
I'm so mad I'm going to miss this.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
May 02 2013 02:51 GMT
#117
On May 02 2013 10:43 quien wrote:
if my mind dont betrays me, i think that the first flash trophy was a GSL title, a BW gsl... in a super dificult math up against jaedong, it was amazing.

btw... GO FLASH!


incorrect, flash was 3-0'd by jaedong.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Gotnerves
Profile Joined August 2012
56 Posts
May 02 2013 02:55 GMT
#118
On May 02 2013 08:50 p14c wrote:
Too much Life hype. He's not invincible and he didn't win 5 major titles. He only won 1 GSL code S. You can't compare those tournaments with OSL or MSL. If you do that then Flash has over 10 major titles lol. This is the first time Flash encounter Life in a real tournament stage where he had time to prepare.


A fail troll here?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44109 Posts
May 02 2013 03:09 GMT
#119
oh f*** its today .. oh why cruel world .. why would you not allow me to watch it today TT_TT

just gonna cry until vods are available till later date and miss the most epic matchups TT_TT

anyways i want life to win but my gut tells me hes not gonna make it out
this is a quote
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
May 02 2013 03:11 GMT
#120
On May 02 2013 11:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 10:43 quien wrote:
if my mind dont betrays me, i think that the first flash trophy was a GSL title, a BW gsl... in a super dificult math up against jaedong, it was amazing.

btw... GO FLASH!


incorrect, flash was 3-0'd by jaedong.


in the first gsl invitational he defeated jaedong in the ro8 and stork in the finals... i thought it was the other way.
but his games vs jaedong were amazing anyway. with a spectacular comeback vs guardians in one of the games.
This is the way
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 02 2013 03:27 GMT
#121
My Predictions
PartinG 0–2 Life
INnoVation 1–2 Flash
Flash 2–1 Life
PartinG 0–2 INnoVation
Life 0–2 INnoVation

Flash and INnoVation advance!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 02 2013 03:29 GMT
#122
On May 02 2013 10:55 xgtx wrote:
"detection does for InCa "? reference?


InCa used to build DTs in practically every game in all three matchups
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 03:39:41
May 02 2013 03:35 GMT
#123
Parting you cocky cock, you just wrote your own obituary. Seeing as Parting can't beat either of these terrans (he's already tried), I think he'll go out last.

Innovation and Flash is virtually a coinflip, but lately God looks mortal while Innovation doesn't appear to be human. I'd give him the benefit of an extra 1% to get out of this madness alive, but Flash isn't far behind.

Predictions are a fool's errand since these players are all so godly, but I'll still bite:

Parting-Life
Innovation-Flash
Life-Flash
Parting-Innovation
Innovation-Flash

Lifu + Innovation advance
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
May 02 2013 03:46 GMT
#124
Flash Life advance.
Flash Life FINAL PLEASE!
frontline-
Profile Joined March 2012
Bulgaria281 Posts
May 02 2013 03:51 GMT
#125
I think the people who underestimate Flash are in for a treat. Today I fully expect Flash to do one of his stronger and more dominant performances in recent years.

Flash & Life to advance.
syroz
Profile Joined September 2012
France249 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 03:56:30
May 02 2013 03:53 GMT
#126
Flash made a big step forward already with ro16. Even god cant compet death, he has no chance (exept miracle).
Innovation is a code S player he may go throught. Life is just simply better he will go throught. Parting is the outsider.

Anyway, this group is the most incredible one in GSL history, can't wait <3
Mads2
Profile Joined January 2013
Denmark21 Posts
May 02 2013 04:16 GMT
#127
Man, I had to log in just to compliment this extremely well written article!

Can't wait to watch the Vods after work.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
May 02 2013 04:25 GMT
#128
Fuck man, this group... anyone could get out, but I'm guessing Bogus/Life.
The universe created an audience for itself.
KnowNothing
Profile Joined December 2010
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 04:30:31
May 02 2013 04:29 GMT
#129
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!
C0MMANDO
Profile Joined March 2012
71 Posts
May 02 2013 04:38 GMT
#130
Typo. Life won 1 GSL, not 2
Gotnerves
Profile Joined August 2012
56 Posts
May 02 2013 04:48 GMT
#131
On May 02 2013 13:38 C0MMANDO wrote:
Typo. Life won 1 GSL, not 2

'
He has won 2 it's not a typo
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
May 02 2013 04:53 GMT
#132
"he was just a mid-tier Terran from Brood War," lol what?
Heavenfallz
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia73 Posts
May 02 2013 04:56 GMT
#133
Love to watch this group. Pity that i can't watch this T.T
"Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories" - Sun Tzu
ph0cuz
Profile Joined October 2012
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 05:01:11
May 02 2013 04:58 GMT
#134
Parting and Flash advance, you heard it here first ( well I guess not first, Unless you disregard everyone else that predicted it)

Watch flash 11/11 life first game. I can sense it..
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
May 02 2013 05:02 GMT
#135
I want Parting and Flash advance !
AKMU / IU
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
May 02 2013 05:04 GMT
#136
All I can say is if anyone is the least favored here, even by the smallest most miniscule degree, i think it has to be parting. that said, it's anyone's group, with life having the edge. Hard to see any of these players drop so early though
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
May 02 2013 05:15 GMT
#137
On May 02 2013 11:32 TidusX.Yuna wrote:
"but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa"

I laughed


It was good but was begging for a Hong-Un reference.

He hasn;t been in the GSL for 2 years and he still is probably rivals with everyone in this group.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 02 2013 05:26 GMT
#138
Flash and Life to move on.
Parting's soul train will never reach it's full Life.
Bogus fears Flash in TvT in the minds of these players Flash is 1-0 up already.

Flash will upset Life in a nailbiting 2-1
Life wakes up and kills who ever comes up next.
Cuh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States403 Posts
May 02 2013 05:33 GMT
#139
i really wish i didnt have to goto bed... i want to her the tastosis hype!!! al along with the games but Life and Innovation all day
MarineKing | Nestea | MC
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
May 02 2013 05:34 GMT
#140
Cannot wait to see Parting eat all his big words.
And Innovation vs Flash TvT is probably going to be some craziest game of the year. The only concern here is their stamina. Usually TvT can drag out quite long

But if anyone can maintain their form, it is GOD,
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 02 2013 05:34 GMT
#141
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
May 02 2013 05:40 GMT
#142
Geebuz... that's the sickest GSL group I've ever seen.
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
May 02 2013 05:53 GMT
#143
Going with Life and a terran. Probably Flash as he was quite convincing in r32.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Mafab
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany458 Posts
May 02 2013 06:07 GMT
#144
I think chances are great, that one of the two, who come out of this group will win this season. Sadly, I think it's impossible for me to predict the results of this group. It's just so close with all of these players, except for Life, being some of my personal favourites.
Too bad I can't watch this live.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 06:09:35
May 02 2013 06:08 GMT
#145
This is the strongest and most exciting group in the history of SC2, and I'm gonna miss it. Stupid work ><.

My head voted for Innovation and Life, but my heart and anticipation votes both went to Life and Flash. And all of that is in a group with PartinG. How ridiculous.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
May 02 2013 06:14 GMT
#146
Would love to see Life and Flash play each other again. I'm most interested in seeing how PartinG fares in this group. Only a few more hours...
snorlax1
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore233 Posts
May 02 2013 06:14 GMT
#147
but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa.


this makes me laugh like crazy =)
ooDi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada170 Posts
May 02 2013 06:20 GMT
#148
what kind of group is this... omg...
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." @UR_ooDi www.twitch.tv/ooDi_sc
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
May 02 2013 07:01 GMT
#149
I've been trying to get my body ready for this day, but I still feel unworthy
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
May 02 2013 07:20 GMT
#150
PartinG has been a magnificent mongoloid by offering us this group, he's bound to regret it.
I believe Bogus is too good at this game not to go through, and it would be unreasonable to bet against life, so my guess goes to these two.
I really really really hope Flash and Bogus make it though.
Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
May 02 2013 07:28 GMT
#151
This will be epic, history will be made.

Head
Parting < Life
Innovation > Flash
Life < Innovation
Parting < Flash
Life < Flash

Heart
Parting < Life
Innovation < Flash
Flash > Life
Parting < Innovation
Life > Innovation
[Terran] mvp | maru | innovation | mma [Protoss] mc | squirtle [Zerg] nestea | soo
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 07:38:18
May 02 2013 07:38 GMT
#152
I think the fans are the real winners here.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
ph0cuz
Profile Joined October 2012
9 Posts
May 02 2013 07:39 GMT
#153
So who wants to take a gander at viewer count? Im banking 25-30k
KnowNothing
Profile Joined December 2010
69 Posts
May 02 2013 07:40 GMT
#154
On May 02 2013 14:34 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.


Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 02 2013 07:42 GMT
#155
On May 02 2013 16:39 ph0cuz wrote:
So who wants to take a gander at viewer count? Im banking 25-30k

code S already breaks 25k, this one should break 35k imo
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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ZzKaelzZ
Profile Joined October 2012
51 Posts
May 02 2013 07:45 GMT
#156
On May 02 2013 16:39 ph0cuz wrote:
So who wants to take a gander at viewer count? Im banking 25-30k


Definitely more. Remember many ppl watch through GomTV and not Twitch. I'll say 50k total
Idra <3 Leenock <3 DRG <3 Symbol <3 JYP <3 Life <3 HuK <3
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 02 2013 07:46 GMT
#157
This is going to be some crazy shit
AdministratorBreak the chains
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
May 02 2013 07:52 GMT
#158
This is BS. This is on the day I have an exam. GODDAMNIT!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
May 02 2013 07:54 GMT
#159
This should be the blurb:

Group B is a matter of Life or Death. If you blink, you will be Parting from the main stage, realizing that your chance to be the best was gone in a Flash! May the players with the greatest sense of SC2 Innovation advance!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
CursivE
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia317 Posts
May 02 2013 08:03 GMT
#160
This write up was awesome! Thanks!

Gogo Parting!
MC || HuK || MMA || Squirtle || TLO || Sea || HerO || MarineKing || MVP || NesTea
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
May 02 2013 08:14 GMT
#161
Oh my god I'm stoked! Gogo Parting~
twitter.com/laurifalck | I don't want to get you drunk, but, ah, that's a very fine Chardonnay you're not drinking. | TLO!
cheerful
Profile Joined December 2012
78 Posts
May 02 2013 08:16 GMT
#162
Gogo partinG !
Hectorian
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden13 Posts
May 02 2013 08:25 GMT
#163
Life has won ONE GSL, the other GomTV event was Blizzard Cup, do not confuse them with each other...

Life wins the group, INnoVation second.

Flash third and Parting last.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
May 02 2013 08:28 GMT
#164
On May 02 2013 16:40 KnowNothing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 14:34 Lysanias wrote:
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.


Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.


Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities
Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...
Von
Profile Joined May 2009
United States363 Posts
May 02 2013 08:32 GMT
#165
I am literally quaking with anticipation out here. AWESOME.

If its not fun I dont want it.
Gotnerves
Profile Joined August 2012
56 Posts
May 02 2013 08:33 GMT
#166
On May 02 2013 17:25 Hectorian wrote:
Life has won ONE GSL, the other GomTV event was Blizzard Cup, do not confuse them with each other...

Life wins the group, INnoVation second.

Flash third and Parting last.


The blizzard cup is a gsl, it's the gsl championship by gomtv.
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
May 02 2013 08:35 GMT
#167
Would be Fun if Flash & Innovation advance....so Life & Parting can do BM-stuff in non televised Code A :D ...
czaku
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland429 Posts
May 02 2013 08:39 GMT
#168
In Parting we trust.
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
May 02 2013 08:39 GMT
#169
On May 02 2013 17:28 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 16:40 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 14:34 Lysanias wrote:
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.


Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.


Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities
Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...

Scarlett does it too (defending a blue flame Hellion push with lings & drones only).
WIllBIll
Profile Joined June 2011
590 Posts
May 02 2013 08:39 GMT
#170
Group of Death. G-o-D. 1st place has already been decided.
KnowNothing
Profile Joined December 2010
69 Posts
May 02 2013 08:51 GMT
#171
On May 02 2013 17:28 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 16:40 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 14:34 Lysanias wrote:
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.


Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.


Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities
Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...


I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.
IneptFromRussia
Profile Joined December 2012
Russian Federation14 Posts
May 02 2013 09:05 GMT
#172
Can't believe article called Bogus "mid-tier" terran in BW, when he was ace player for STX, lol.
Alaster
Profile Joined April 2013
Bulgaria31 Posts
May 02 2013 09:11 GMT
#173
Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,
If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then that person is a piece of shit.
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
May 02 2013 09:15 GMT
#174
On May 02 2013 18:11 Alaster wrote:
Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,

Life won 2 GSL.
Alaster
Profile Joined April 2013
Bulgaria31 Posts
May 02 2013 09:20 GMT
#175
On May 02 2013 18:15 Kihshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 18:11 Alaster wrote:
Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,

Life won 2 GSL.


No he didn't check your facts, there is a mistake in the article. He has 1 GSL title.
If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then that person is a piece of shit.
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
May 02 2013 09:26 GMT
#176
On May 02 2013 18:20 Alaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 18:15 Kihshra wrote:
On May 02 2013 18:11 Alaster wrote:
Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,

Life won 2 GSL.


No he didn't check your facts, there is a mistake in the article. He has 1 GSL title.

No there isn't (at least not on that point). Blizzard Cup is a GSL.
Alaster
Profile Joined April 2013
Bulgaria31 Posts
May 02 2013 09:37 GMT
#177
It is not counted towards GSL titles and is different format so idk depends how you look at it i guess but still not close.
If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then that person is a piece of shit.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 09:39:16
May 02 2013 09:38 GMT
#178
On May 02 2013 18:20 Alaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 18:15 Kihshra wrote:
On May 02 2013 18:11 Alaster wrote:
Really how can you even say Life has 5 major titles? He won 1 gsl he has much to do before he can reach Flash s achievments. Sorry but MLG and iron squid are not major titles,

Life won 2 GSL.


No he didn't check your facts, there is a mistake in the article. He has 1 GSL title.


Both Life and MMA have two GSL badges, each of them won a regular GSL season and the Blizzard Cup for their respective year. Thus, for all intents and purposes Blizzard cup counts as a GSL, and no matter what you say, you'll never be able to take away that 2nd GSL badge.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 09:53:37
May 02 2013 09:51 GMT
#179
wow what a game from life.... :gusta:
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 09:53:20
May 02 2013 09:52 GMT
#180
2x post..
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
Pure Intention
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation18 Posts
May 02 2013 09:53 GMT
#181
T.T !!!!!!! PartinG played so well, and still... Man, I love this group. So sick.
Adellund
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark92 Posts
May 02 2013 09:54 GMT
#182
"It was a good night for Protoss players in Code A, as they went 5 - 1 overall and 4 - 0 against Zerg opponents. While some results were not surprising at all, such as (P)ST_Squirtle's romp over (Z)8th_ALBM, even the less heralded "


I thought it was LGIM-Squirtle now? ..... nice article... lol
If you put RoRo on your anti-team you should be ashamed!
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 02 2013 09:55 GMT
#183
On May 02 2013 17:51 KnowNothing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 17:28 Swisslink wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:40 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 14:34 Lysanias wrote:
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.


Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.


Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities
Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...


I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.


Sup, micro looked rather silly and one sided, dem Life lings
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 02 2013 09:56 GMT
#184
Flash advances. I am so sure!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 10:13:53
May 02 2013 10:12 GMT
#185
oops wrong thread
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 10:45:59
May 02 2013 10:36 GMT
#186
oops
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 02 2013 10:44 GMT
#187
Innovation playing incredibly good.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 02 2013 10:45 GMT
#188
why the hell are these the best games of sc2 i've ever seen?
maru lover forever
Pure Intention
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation18 Posts
May 02 2013 10:49 GMT
#189
On May 02 2013 18:55 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 17:51 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 17:28 Swisslink wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:40 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 14:34 Lysanias wrote:
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.


Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.


Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities
Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...


I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.


Sup, micro looked rather silly and one sided, dem Life lings


It did not. Harass though did
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 02 2013 11:17 GMT
#190
Only just saw this one:
detection does for InCa


Hahahahaha
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 02 2013 11:20 GMT
#191
On May 02 2013 19:49 Pure Intention wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 18:55 Lysanias wrote:
On May 02 2013 17:51 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 17:28 Swisslink wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:40 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 14:34 Lysanias wrote:
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.


Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.


Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities
Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...


I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.


Sup, micro looked rather silly and one sided, dem Life lings


It did not. Harass though did


Oh yeah you don't need to micro for that, micro is a bit more complicated then A move to herass.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 11:30:53
May 02 2013 11:30 GMT
#192
wrong topic.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 02 2013 11:31 GMT
#193
So extremely excited! Innovation 2-0 Life. Holy crap!
stickyhands
Profile Joined May 2011
187 Posts
May 02 2013 11:32 GMT
#194
INNOMGVATION 0_0
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
HanSomPa
Profile Joined December 2012
United States87 Posts
May 02 2013 11:34 GMT
#195
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


Well... You have been proven nearly completely wrong
He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
May 02 2013 11:42 GMT
#196
I wonder if he is completly wrong after the end of the day :D.
Hadoken00
Profile Joined April 2013
China2 Posts
May 02 2013 11:46 GMT
#197
Flash fighting!
Flash fighting!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 02 2013 12:20 GMT
#198
Suddenly got very dissapointed about this group...
MythZero
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)102 Posts
May 02 2013 12:21 GMT
#199
INNOVATION!!!!
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
May 02 2013 12:22 GMT
#200
Bogus, man

Flash ((
Alaster
Profile Joined April 2013
Bulgaria31 Posts
May 02 2013 12:55 GMT
#201
PARTING GODLY!!!!! Best protosss showing since the time of Bisu!!!!!!
If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then that person is a piece of shit.
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
May 02 2013 12:55 GMT
#202
Well that was unexpected... Parting i mean, innovation was clear from the start ggs!
Let's learn together!
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
May 02 2013 12:58 GMT
#203
BEST. GROUP. EVER.
and for anyone saying PartinG was overrated, i think an apology is in order.
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
Pure Intention
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation18 Posts
May 02 2013 12:59 GMT
#204
Parting did such a great job, man. I was wishing for him to win, I was rooting for him, but still even I didn't expect this. WOW.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
May 02 2013 13:32 GMT
#205
Sick games. Did not disappoint! Innovation's godly TvZ
AKMU / IU
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
May 02 2013 13:36 GMT
#206
Well.. life was ahead in both the games against PartinG after the initial ling pressure. The problem is that the counterattack caught life before he could get his tech of choice. Roaches would have solved that.. he was too greedy.
firsty
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada15 Posts
May 02 2013 13:36 GMT
#207
life and flash sux at sc2
Pure Intention
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation18 Posts
May 02 2013 13:46 GMT
#208
On May 02 2013 22:36 firsty wrote:
life and flash sux at sc2


Yeah, stupid noobs (sarcasm)
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
May 02 2013 14:12 GMT
#209
So epic. Innovation is so innovation!
There are spores and spines everywhere. Look for crazy places to drop. Widow mines and bait. Immortal HELLLIONS!!!!

Destroyed Flash and Life back to back.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 02 2013 14:13 GMT
#210
On May 02 2013 07:24 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Dear GSL:
Best of 7's for tonight group.

Signed The Fans


Here here!

Seriously, that'd be awesome.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
May 02 2013 15:18 GMT
#211
On May 02 2013 07:04 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Certainly he’ll exchange banter with Parting in trash talk and he’ll acknowledge Flash as a player, but no player has ever triggered a sense of competitive obsession the way Seed does in Symbol, Thorzain with Naniwa, or detection does for InCa.


Oh man, I lose stuchiu, I simply lose. Great write-up!
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 02 2013 15:49 GMT
#212
I came here to see some spoilers (actually, just the results, because I missed the action while at uni) and I was not disappointed. PartinG FTW!
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 16:02:18
May 02 2013 15:59 GMT
#213
On May 02 2013 22:36 firsty wrote:
life and flash sux at sc2

There is no need to bash good players when they failed to make it out of the group. Just because they did not win does not automatically make them bad.

And yeah, I can quite confidently state that you suck at spelling, because even with the help of a spell checker (I can see the red lines underlining "sux" you've managed to suck at spelling.

Oh yes, and you failed to use "sux" in the right context. Given that you're using Life and Flash as a collective, it should have been used as "suck" and not "sucks", although it's baffling me right now as to how you'd go about spelling that.
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jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 16:37:16
May 02 2013 16:35 GMT
#214
so no zergs made it out to ro8 sofar...
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mk.ultra
Profile Joined March 2012
United States54 Posts
May 02 2013 17:21 GMT
#215
On May 03 2013 00:59 NeThZOR wrote:
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On May 02 2013 22:36 firsty wrote:
life and flash sux at sc2

There is no need to bash good players when they failed to make it out of the group. Just because they did not win does not automatically make them bad.

And yeah, I can quite confidently state that you suck at spelling, because even with the help of a spell checker (I can see the red lines underlining "sux" you've managed to suck at spelling.

Oh yes, and you failed to use "sux" in the right context. Given that you're using Life and Flash as a collective, it should have been used as "suck" and not "sucks", although it's baffling me right now as to how you'd go about spelling that.


Pretty sure you took that comment way too seriously.

It's obvious they don't "suck at SC2"
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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
May 02 2013 18:11 GMT
#216
So ridiculously stacked.... :-o

Gogo INnoVation and Flash!!
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Howl41
Profile Joined September 2012
United States65 Posts
May 02 2013 18:39 GMT
#217
On May 03 2013 01:35 jeri wrote:
so no zergs made it out to ro8 sofar...


I know isnt that awesome?
<3 Bomer/Flash/Innovation/MMA/MVP/Demuslim/Forgg/Gumiho/Lucifron/SeleCT
KnowNothing
Profile Joined December 2010
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 19:16:35
May 02 2013 19:09 GMT
#218
On May 02 2013 18:55 Lysanias wrote:
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On May 02 2013 17:51 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 17:28 Swisslink wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:40 KnowNothing wrote:
On May 02 2013 14:34 Lysanias wrote:
On May 02 2013 13:29 KnowNothing wrote:
Honestly I haven't been following that closely lately, but everyone here is underestimating Parting, not to mention seriously overestimating Innovation.

Innovation is as described in the thread: standard terran at a high level. Technically sound. Not clutch, no comparable results, not a real champion. Can he win? Sure, but his chances don't compare to those of these 3 proven champions.

Parting is disliked cause he's got attitude. He was largely overlooked in WoL for a long time too. The first time I saw him play he wasn't given much credit, but from that game, I finally saw someone who I thought understood how to play SC2. Then he was hardly visible for a year or so, and finally broke through, winning the BNet WC and WCG. All I can say is watch him shred life in this match.

Life is the best player in the world, in most ways, but his micro can't match parting's, and with the balance currently favouring protoss, life won't be able to think his way out of the pressure parting puts on.

Flash is smarter than life, and more professional. He'll prepare very hard for these matches, because showing his fans good games means more to him than anyone else here (how do you think he went from #1 in BW to where he is now?). Again, because parting has stronger micro and is more likely to cheese than Life, he will be much harder to prepare for, Flash also sees Life as the more significant rival and is the one he will be most interested in defeating. It's hard to tell exactly when Flash will overtake Life, but once he does, Life will never get back on top.

Parting>Life --- Life is a little better, but P > Z is the trend
Innovation<Flash --- This TvT is Innovation's best chance for an upset.
Life>Innovation --- EGPZ
Parting>Flash --- Parting will win because he must. He'll be afraid to play Life again.
Flash>Life --- Might be worth a watch.

Flash and Parting advance!


From where did you think Parting has better micro then Life ? Have you seen Life's ling micro vs Terrans ? It's something not even Leenock can compete with. Of Life's play his reaction speed and micro are simply top of this world.


Just by my general sense Parting's is better. Here's a random example of Parting doing cool things recently:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/72030 (jump to 15:50 to see it). After the game, Artosis says Parting's mutant power is micro, kind of like Wolverine has regeneration lol. I don't think this is one of the better examples of Parting's skills, but there's no question his micro is top class.


Nobody'd argue that PartinG's micro is insanely good - but you really underestimate Life's micro abilities
Zerg micro - as usual - isn't incredibly impressive to watch, but Life normally just doesn't lose anything due to his micro (and whatever he does there :-P ). Best example MLG: Who on earth defends a blue flame Hellion push with Lings and Drones only? I mean... that's not even possible... normally...


I know life's micro is great, but Parting's control reminds me of Bisu in BW. I'll reconsider if I see Life go for an early attack or two against Parting (and they don't fail brutally). He used to practice with him a lot -- I think he knows better. In a random clip of parting playing ladder at the team house, I saw him mineral walk to surround and kill 2 stalkers at his ramp with 1 zealot and about 7 probes. He lost 2 probes. Who does that? Hahaha.


Sup, micro looked rather silly and one sided, dem Life lings


Sup? Better luck next WCS, Life... As long as Parting doesn't get to pick you again.

I should apologize though to Innovation fans, as I said I haven't been following closely lately, and it appears he's gotten a lot better.
renzpwns
Profile Joined March 2013
United States8 Posts
May 02 2013 21:54 GMT
#219
Only got to watch the first match, anyone know what the peak of viewers in the stream was?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 02 2013 21:54 GMT
#220
On May 03 2013 06:54 renzpwns wrote:
Only got to watch the first match, anyone know what the peak of viewers in the stream was?

someone posted a picture at 47k
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 02 2013 21:58 GMT
#221
On May 03 2013 06:54 renzpwns wrote:
Only got to watch the first match, anyone know what the peak of viewers in the stream was?



On May 03 2013 06:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On May 03 2013 06:54 renzpwns wrote:
Only got to watch the first match, anyone know what the peak of viewers in the stream was?

someone posted a picture at 47k



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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
May 02 2013 22:46 GMT
#222
You know, the predictions from the TL writers were right except that they predicted Parting > Life and then Life > Parting when it actually was Life > Parting and then Parting > Life.

With the exception of that one reversal, their prediction was accurate.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
May 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#223
On May 02 2013 07:13 Emzeeshady wrote:
How the fuck was Sniper the king of BL/Infestor

He went Muta/Ling/Bane more then almost any Zerg and often went Ultralisk in the lategame. I know everyone hates Sniper for beating their favourite players but making stuff up is still wrong.

It is about time the poor guy got some credit. He won a GSL, has done extremely well for MVP in IPL and GSTL and has shown an outstanding level of gameplay.


Went muta/ling/bane more than almost any Zerg? Sniper was not DRG / Life.
hmm... let's think about it
Justikhar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States56 Posts
May 02 2013 23:40 GMT
#224
On May 02 2013 21:58 Dragoonstorm7 wrote:
BEST. GROUP. EVER.
and for anyone saying PartinG was overrated, i think an apology is in order.


GG Parting!! So good!!
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 03 2013 10:09 GMT
#225
On May 03 2013 02:21 mk.ultra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 00:59 NeThZOR wrote:
On May 02 2013 22:36 firsty wrote:
life and flash sux at sc2

There is no need to bash good players when they failed to make it out of the group. Just because they did not win does not automatically make them bad.

And yeah, I can quite confidently state that you suck at spelling, because even with the help of a spell checker (I can see the red lines underlining "sux" you've managed to suck at spelling.

Oh yes, and you failed to use "sux" in the right context. Given that you're using Life and Flash as a collective, it should have been used as "suck" and not "sucks", although it's baffling me right now as to how you'd go about spelling that.


Pretty sure you took that comment way too seriously.

It's obvious they don't "suck at SC2"

I'm quite the serious guy. I take some things seriously.
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