EPT[MLG] Day 1 Recap - Winter Championship - Page 3
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ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
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Cattlecruiser
United States340 Posts
On March 17 2013 00:05 NovemberstOrm wrote: When you have favorites it's hard not to get genuinely excited, after all they are fans just like you and me. I don't think it's a bad thing either, showing your passion for the game/player/race is awesome. I understand casting like that for a certain city or country. For events like the World Cup, FSN Detroit having Wing's bias, or sports radio having city bias it shouldn't be a surprise. Most nationally broadcasted and all internationally broadcasted events have little to no bias, or try extremely hard to hide it. Things that these casters say about foreigners while they are getting crushed is ridiculous. I guess I'm expecting too much professionalism. On March 16 2013 23:48 Tobblish wrote: Every foreigner caster is biased towards the foreigner, they ALL suffer from it. And I find it really surprising that you didn't find Day9 or Husky to be really biased, since I can't remember who was down 80 supply against a korean but there was still hope. (3sec later he gg) I find Day9, TB and Khaldor to be the ones that suffers from it the most. But with Day9 it's actually hard to listen to him cast, the others at least acknowledge the opponent. Yeah I've heard their bias, it is sickening for NA players vs Anyone. (Good thing that none of them will make it past the first round) However, I've yet to hear anyone worse than Khaldor or TakeTV guy. I like certain players, teams, and race but I like them because of the good plays and strategies that they came up with. Can't we get past the clan stream mentality? The community needs to for eSports to grow into anything more than commonly labeled "pseudo sport". | ||
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Confuse
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On March 16 2013 19:30 ACrow wrote: Bly played pretty well. Impressive performance by him, despite losing! yeah man, I think everyone had written him off after G1/G2, and in G3 I thought Flash was ahead until the infestor moves. props to Bly, I hope he wins at least one or two titles in the years to come. | ||
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forumtext
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ABH13
United States11 Posts
 but earned a lot of respect for Bly the way he played games 3 and 4 | ||
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Dools1337
France27 Posts
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vinsang1000
Belgium365 Posts
On March 16 2013 20:15 Seporo wrote: I hated the casting for this series. Every 30 secs they were going on about Flash's great skill, and the fact that not-being-ahead is basically being behind, and that you cannot afford to blabla against such a player, etc. It was really poor casting. I love Flash, loved him on BW and loved him still, he is indeed a great player, what they say is kinda true... but please stop talking only about that when casting ? Try to cast it more like if it were any other top player ? We don't need to hear every 2 minutes how good Flash is and hey his nickname is God ! - WE KNOW. Won't even mention the fact that they tried to shout at the same time during half the battles. meh +1, it's terribly boring. Just talking about they game itself should be enough to explain the quality of each players. I have the feeling that, as they encourage in SOTG or ITG, casters are now only concentrating on "storyline" rather than commentating starcraft. | ||
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vinsang1000
Belgium365 Posts
On March 17 2013 00:37 ChApFoU wrote: It's a pretty sad state for foreign progaming when all we have to brag about is taking ONE game off a korean pro (out of 13) in our own tournaments ... It's BW back | ||
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
On March 16 2013 17:08 Evil_Sheep wrote: The arrival of Kespa en masse to sc2 is the nail in the coffin for any foreign hopes in the future. The dismal state of zerg in hots and the fact that most top foreigners are zerg is just kicking dirt on the grave. Stephano should be able to reach the quarters but he'll be all alone. I hate this sort of pessimism but it's probably for good cause here and I find myself similarly pessimistic for a few reasons. From the bits and pieces of information I've gathered from reading these forums, the arrival of the KESPA players and their teams has led to, directly or indirectly, a further professionalization of team houses and training regiments in Korea. EG hired SKT's old coach, for example, and is apparently, at its Korean gaming house, instituting a variety of fairly strict measures related to practice time, streaming, etc. If foreigners continue on the same track, where most foreigners living abroad seem to top out at about 5 to 6 hours of play a day, they will more than likely fall further behind the Koreans who are practicing harder than ever. In addition, I believe the skill ceiling has been raised in HoTS. There are more spell casters to micro, more units and abilities that require skill and attention to optimally exploit and more threats from your opponent to guard against. An increase in the skill ceiling will only magnify the difference in skill between players who are dedicating their lives to HoTS and those who aren't. Finally, the transition by KESPA players obviously made the SCII talent pool that much deeper. Since all of the KESPA players that transferred are Korean (unless I'm missing someone), the mere fact they moved into SCII meant that the gap between foreigners and Koreans increased and would continue to increase as they improved at the game. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
People who aren't biased towards Zerg players. | ||
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trwkling
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ptoss
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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jeri
Germany335 Posts
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GrazerRinge
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Also i am afraid that kespa is going to take over the sc2 scene where they send their top tier players. | ||
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Dragoonstorm7
United States599 Posts
On March 16 2013 17:08 Evil_Sheep wrote: The arrival of Kespa en masse to sc2 is the nail in the coffin for any foreign hopes in the future. The dismal state of zerg in hots and the fact that most top foreigners are zerg is just kicking dirt on the grave. Stephano should be able to reach the quarters but he'll be all alone. the frenchman is overhyped and overrated. couldnt take 1 map vs Last. | ||
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
On March 16 2013 17:08 Evil_Sheep wrote: The arrival of Kespa en masse to sc2 is the nail in the coffin for any foreign hopes in the future. The dismal state of zerg in hots and the fact that most top foreigners are zerg is just kicking dirt on the grave. Stephano should be able to reach the quarters but he'll be all alone. This post suspiciously sounds very pro-foreigner pro-zerg. Anyway, no reason to overreact just yet about the future. While Stephano performed below his usual, the only foreigners to take games off Koreans were you guessed it, Zerg. There are plenty of great Korean Zergs that aren't in this tournament that will put out good results in the future. We haven't even seen much muta or swarmhost abuse yet... and I know those units can take wins in certain matchups. Via http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Winter_Championship Goswser Bly Sen All took a game off the Koreans. I didn't watch all those games, but I read the part about Bly vs Flash and it made it sound like Bly almost took another game off Flash meaning he had a chance at winning that matchup. Zerg is far from being bad. | ||
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